IUPA Contract

I would like to see the elimination of deputies being bounced off of their shift and go by senority

If we all worked 4-12 hours shift the senority issue will be a dead one.

VOTE FOR IT 4-12 hours shifts

No 4 twelves rookie, not gonna happen. 4 10's would be a go. Don't tell me 4 10's would cost more, It will still save a lot more than 5 8's, not to mention what would be saved on sick time

I guess you were offended by my suggestion???

Transitioning to a 4-12’s shift arrangement is the only sensible course of action in today’s fiscal environment. Not only are 4-12’s the most cost effective use of manpower but it will also negate all issues relating to seniority and days-off.

4-12’s costs less $$$. The agency actually spends more $$$ by going to the 4-10s, where there are still three shifts in a 24 hours period, 6 hours of which the shifts overlap). With 4-12’s you have only two shifts in a 24 hour period instead of three (less $$$$)

If you need an example:

If we need 14 deputies at all times to cover a certain district
----With 4-10’s that’s 14 dep’s each working 10 hours for 3 shifts = 420 man hrs per day
Average dep’s pay $26 an hour = $10,920 per day
----With 4-12’s that’s 14 dep’s each working 12 hours for 2 shifts = 336 man hrs per day
Average dep’s pay $26 an hour = $ 8,736 per day

Then you also have to look at other areas of budget affected by a change in shifts. We still need to employ at least 2 sergeants per shift. On 8-5’s and 4-10’s that means 6 sergeants in a 24 hour period. 4-12s would only require 4 sergeants for the same 24 period. The Sheriff’s Office is saved money.

Why should the average deputy care about all this?

The best benefit is that the seniority issue will be eliminated by going to the 4-12s. With a rotating schedule there is no bidding for days off. The seniority issue will still be "AN ISSUE FOR DAYS OFF" on the 4-10’s.

This will also ensure more job security for all of us deputies. The bottom line in getting and maintaining contract cities is saving money and providing a service that was either equal to or better than what they had before. 4-12s would allow us to do this.

Another example why we need to change:

We have one of our districts in which the city is thinking of contracting with a private company (Navarro Security) because the firm would charge less for police services. THEY ARE REPLACING UNION WORKERS WITH NON-UNION SCAB WITH NO BENEFITS. We need to think about our current and possible future situation in which cities cannot afford their own police department (Due to high wages and pension benefits) or even a contract with the sheriff. If this “Super Exemption Amendment” goes through well we will be screwed because there will be no more extra $$$$ for your 4-10’s. Going to 4-12’s will save us money (Period)………

AND ANOTHER THING: WHAT IS OUR UNION DOING ABOUT THE TOWN REPLACING UNIONIZED DEPUTY SHERIFFS WITH NON-UNION SCABS WITH NO BENEFITS!!!!!!!!!!!!

Worry about seniority after you have been here 15 - 20 years. Tuff it out like all of us have. Go bloviate somewhere else, 12's are not going to happen. End of story. Rookie.

I would like to see an increase in comp time hours allowed

What would you like to see in a contract from IUPA. If you had a chance to start from scratch and write an entire new contract, what would you like to see in it?

GREEN SHIRTS! GREEN SHIRTS! GREEN SHIRTS!

I guess you were offended by my suggestion???

Transitioning to a 4-12’s shift arrangement is the only sensible course of action in today’s fiscal environment. Not only are 4-12’s the most cost effective use of manpower but it will also negate all issues relating to seniority and days-off.

4-12’s costs less $$$. The agency actually spends more $$$ by going to the 4-10s, where there are still three shifts in a 24 hours period, 6 hours of which the shifts overlap). With 4-12’s you have only two shifts in a 24 hour period instead of three (less $$$$)

If you need an example:

If we need 14 deputies at all times to cover a certain district
----With 4-10’s that’s 14 dep’s each working 10 hours for 3 shifts = 420 man hrs per day
Average dep’s pay $26 an hour = $10,920 per day
----With 4-12’s that’s 14 dep’s each working 12 hours for 2 shifts = 336 man hrs per day
Average dep’s pay $26 an hour = $ 8,736 per day

Then you also have to look at other areas of budget affected by a change in shifts. We still need to employ at least 2 sergeants per shift. On 8-5’s and 4-10’s that means 6 sergeants in a 24 hour period. 4-12s would only require 4 sergeants for the same 24 period. The Sheriff’s Office is saved money.

Why should the average deputy care about all this?

The best benefit is that the seniority issue will be eliminated by going to the 4-12s. With a rotating schedule there is no bidding for days off. The seniority issue will still be "AN ISSUE FOR DAYS OFF" on the 4-10’s.

This will also ensure more job security for all of us deputies. The bottom line in getting and maintaining contract cities is saving money and providing a service that was either equal to or better than what they had before. 4-12s would allow us to do this.

Another example why we need to change:

We have one of our districts in which the city is thinking of contracting with a private company (Navarro Security) because the firm would charge less for police services. THEY ARE REPLACING UNION WORKERS WITH NON-UNION SCAB WITH NO BENEFITS. We need to think about our current and possible future situation in which cities cannot afford their own police department (Due to high wages and pension benefits) or even a contract with the sheriff. If this “Super Exemption Amendment” goes through well we will be screwed because there will be no more extra $$$$ for your 4-10’s. Going to 4-12’s will save us money (Period)………

AND ANOTHER THING: WHAT IS OUR UNION DOING ABOUT THE TOWN REPLACING UNIONIZED DEPUTY SHERIFFS WITH NON-UNION SCABS WITH NO BENEFITS!!!!!!!!!!!![/quote]

The agency wont go to 4 12's because becuase with rotating days off and an already existing shift differential, it eliminates their ability to use shift and days off as an under the table punishment/reward tool.
Also, technically with a 4 12 schedule there are catually 4 shifts each 12 hour shift would have an A squad and a B squad each would have to have enough staffing to patrol a given district.
It would require double the staffing for a 12 hour shift schedule than a current 8 nour shift.
If you create aa A B shift and eliminate C dividing C in half between A and B then you come up short. you need more personnel.
you save money in the streamlining of management and the decreased use of vacation and sick time that would most likely occur under a 4 12 schedule.
I personnally have close to ten years on the job and would lstill ike to see a 4 12 schedule. I would rather have every other weekend off with 4 days then to have every weekend off with 2.
But alas with the current administration it will never happen.

Worry about seniority after you have been here 15 - 20 years. Tuff it out like all of us have. Go bloviate somewhere else, 12's are not going to happen. End of story. Rookie.

This self centered veteran rhetoric has gotten really old. The way some guys talk you would think police work started at their swearing in ceremony and the only people allowed to ***** are them. Come to think of it *****ing and talking on the radio is the only thing they are good for. Did they give out an award for "most air time" twenty years ago?

I commend the veterans who show up for shift and respond to calls like everyone else. You don't realize those guys are out there because they aren't reminding everyone daily how they have more time on forty than person X has 10-8. That line and its many variants never gets old.

Dollars to donuts the guys finishing their careers with class are the same ones that would give up every other weekend (or whatever) for the betterment of the agency.

Ask gods gift to law enforcement and he'll tell you BSO should never adopt a modern LEO schedule or at least hold off until he retires. Ridiculous.