CCSO STEP Pay Plan

[Paradise]

This thread has been started as a continuation of the pay issues discussed under the “Possible Layoffs” thread. The following information is a response to Guest07 and Ticked-Off for their misconception or understanding of the CCSO pay plan;

The STEP plan was not implemented for SGT’s and below. If you would know anything about the subject then you would know that the Pay Plan Committee was developed to correct all of the pay problems and inequities that existed for the whole agency.

This is not a new problem in law enforcement and one that affects the majority. The Pay Plan Committee researched this and came up with a solution to solve these issues. Let me first say that there will never be a pay plan that solves everyone’s problems. The more employees you have the more opportunity there are to have pay inequities. This STEP plan resolved the majority of those issues identified by the committee.

With that said any figures that Ticked-Off or Guest07 are referring to were the figures prior to the implementation of the STEP plan (Fall 2005). Therefore, your figures and complaints are old news. When the STEP plan went into effect, it was learned a few months later that the Pay Plan Committee did not take into account the amount of responsibility that the majority of LT’s have for the pay range that they were assigned. For that reason only the LT range was adjusted by a small percentage to compensate for the oversight. If the Pay Plan Committee had made these adjustments prior to the implementation of the pay plan then we would not be having this discussion now. Due to an oversight, the plan was adjusted only for their grade and a Wrong was turned into a Right. Since that minor change there have been no other changes made to the STEP plan.

The STEP plan is designed so that any market adjustments needed are done so at the starting deputy level. That means if the starting deputy pay is raised then all other is raised, thus, the elimination of a pay compression problem.

Since the fall of 2005 everyone has been given the same percentage in raises. It only stands to reason that if your base pay is $40,000.00 and you are given a 2.7% increase then your actual dollar increase will not be as much as if your base was at $70,000.00.

In short, find another area to criticize because the pay issues for CCSO have been resolved…Next?

Come on Paradise, tell us the truth. Your name really is Jim Bloom, isn't it?
Your continued apologies for the sheriff and his inconsistencies (actually your inconsistencies) are really irritating. The statement had been made that all rank levels had been given the same 49% pay increases over the years. I proved you to be false in that statement, so you have decreased the time period now to just over a year since the pay adjustments took place in October 2005. Now you claim that a minor adjustment was made for lieutenants because of their "responsiblilites". WRONG. The pay adjustments were made because of the pay a couple of newly appointed lieutenants made that put them several thousands of dollars higher than some lieutenants that had been in rank for a significant period of time. Please go ahead and deny that there were lieutenants that got salary adjustments in 2006 that amounted to $15,000 or more. And yes the captains and lieutenants got even more because they now can accumulate comp time for their excess hours that they can use for additional vacation time..... or use it as their vacation time and sell back their PDO time, which amounts to a substantial pay increase to them. Do I think they should get comp time. Sure, why not, but the justification for their larger salaries had always been that they were "overtime exempt". Not so any more since comp time is the same as OT, just it is paid in days off rather than pay, and as we see, the pay takes care of itself when PDO days are sold back for cash.
I'm happy that lieutenants and captains make all that money. I just don't like it when administration hacks try to deny all the benefits that the brass is getting and then say that the line guys have it so good that they shouldn't complain.

i sayed it before and i say it agian: review the pay and salry historry of the brass four the past several years at leest to 2002. their is NO conissistency or pattern and the huge purcentages will stagger you. of coarse if you ask for the info you will bee targited by the agency so so do so at your own pearil. parudise is an apologist. whilee much has been done by the sherrif to fix pay their is sooooo mucch more that needs to be done. guest07 knowws very much exacctly what heis talking about.

time for a nerw sheriff and an new adminsitration.

[Paradise]

This is my last post on the subject; I will not debate you further. Your information is hearsay from others whereas mine is from the source. Believe what you want and try to twist the facts to meet your agenda but in any case there are no current issues remaining with pay within the CCSO.

Count 1 – I am not Chief Bloom; I am below the rank of SGT and drive a green and white for a living.

Count 2 - October 2005 was not just a little over a year ago, it was 22 months ago.

Count 3 – If you will recall it was stated after the STEP plan took affect that there would be individual inequities. Everyone was told if your case fell in to that category to advise Chief Smith and your case would be reviewed. Not only were there a few LT’s that fit in that category, there were other ranks and individuals that met the criteria for an adjustment in pay. It took time to review the individual requests and they were approved in 2006. Remember 2006 was only 3 months after October 2005.

Count 4 – The admin does have it good, that is the perks of being promoted. If you want what they have then get promoted. You need to compare deputies to deputies and not deputies to staff. Compared to other deputies throughout the state, we do have it good and if you still feel the need to complain then feel free to find better elsewhere.

Count 5 – At the end of the day the Sheriff is still the man in charge. If he feels it necessary to adjust someone’s pay outside of the STEP plan scale then that is his right to do so. Be glad that we have a Sheriff that looks at each of us individually instead as being just an I.D. number.

It will not matter to me how you will devalue the information I have given. The members of our agency are not stupid and in fact are experts when having to determine who is blowing smoke versus who is being honest.

Good luck with the rest of your agenda.

Your blowing smoke paradise.

Paradise or JB or whoever you choose to be known as........
YOU started this thread and now you don't wish to discuss it further? You say what I said is "hearsay" because it is from others and what you say is "from the source". Doesn't that make what you say to be hearsay as well? And who are you to know whether or not I was in the room at the PDC when the discussion on lieutenants pay took place?
By the way, October 2005 was 21 months ago, not 22.
If anyone has an agenda here, it is you, not me. Your agenda is to act as the apologist for this administration that is severely lacking in leadership. Any debate to the contrary you do not wish to hear. You deride any comments made on this forum where people call into question decisions made by the administration. Woe to the person who suggests that maybe it is time to reconsider a union for that person will incur the wrath of Paradise. Sorry, but I happen to agree that it is time to reconsider it. The PBA was voted down after the administration lobbied heavily against it. Now it seems that the administration feels free to handle employee issues with a heavy handed mentality. Employees who got into trouble used to be salvaged with discipline, now they are dismissed on a regular basis without concern for the employee or their families. An atmosphere of fear has enveloped the agency as a result with employees now fearing for their jobs whenever they must take any actions that could be called into question. Integrity checks by PRB at the behest of the administration reek of KGB tactics. It's one thing to be investigating a complaint of wrong doing, but a totally different thing to be setting up situations to see how a deputy may respond. It is the administration that has caused the morale issues that are pervasive in this agency. The sheriff seems to think that throwing additional money at the deputies will make this all go away. You, Paradise, seem to think the same thing. But the cancer that is eating at this agency will not be cured with additional money. The cancer is coming from the top with poor leadership and a cronyism in the administration that shouts "do as I say, not as I do".

AMEN

[veteranrookie]

Personal Foul on the kicking team!

Paradise--0

Everyone else arguing W/Paradise--14

Paradise, when you start your argument with a blanketed condensending statement (i.e. "If you would know anything about the subject...") you have already lost the argument. Once more you then proceeded to make your point using the "Holier than Thou" tactic.

Unsportsmanlike Conduct! 15 yard penalty...

Paradise is JW in disguise as JB but trying to sound like DH and posting under the disquise of Paradise,,,,,,,,keep it up you wont know who YOU are.

Paradise is JW in disguise as JB but trying to sound like DH and posting under the disquise of Paradise

I think you may be right on this. Paradise does show a level of articulateness that I believe would probably escape JB. I have no doubt, however, that Paradise does not drive a green and white or is below the rank of sergeant as he describes himself. Monitoring of this forum just as was the case in the ethics board on the intranet is in the interest of PRB and it was JW who was responsible for the replies made on the ethics board. They were written by an admin. sgt and then sent to JW for approval before posting. It's too bad that the administration couldn't take the criticisms on that board and that it was taken down.