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    Personnel drain

    Ron is taking good folks with his pay raises next door. When will SRSO begin to stop the talent drain?

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    SRSO is not the only agency with that problem... we have gained officers from Gulf Breeze, PPD and Milton in the past month.

    Come on over... the waters nice.

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    Money is the root of evil

    The money may be a step up, but the grass isn't always greener.

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    I agree that the grass is not ALWAYS greener, but the job is what you make of it, and you have to look at which place has the most potential for you to make it what you want.

    Here at ECSO we have a good opportunity to move into specialzed jobs quickly. We have numerous deputies that have less than 3 years working in narcotics, outlying precincts such as pens. beach and perdido key, one guy with 2 years here is on the DUI squad, another with 2 1/2 years is a firearms instructor, Josh hendershot has 3 years and just made it to K9, etc.

    Everyplace is what you make of it. Go where you have the best chance to do the things you want to do.

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    another viewpoint

    Quote Originally Posted by ECSO Deputy
    I agree that the grass is not ALWAYS greener, but the job is what you make of it, and you have to look at which place has the most potential for you to make it what you want.

    Here at ECSO we have a good opportunity to move into specialzed jobs quickly. We have numerous deputies that have less than 3 years working in narcotics, outlying precincts such as pens. beach and perdido key, one guy with 2 years here is on the DUI squad, another with 2 1/2 years is a firearms instructor, Josh hendershot has 3 years and just made it to K9, etc.

    Everyplace is what you make of it. Go where you have the best chance to do the things you want to do.
    Before you move by thinking the grass is greener because you might be able to quickly move to different specialized units consider first why those vacancies occur so often at the Sheriff’s department. Most progressive agencies try to keep continuity in specialize units by keeping experienced personnel in place as long as possible and don’t encourage rapid turnover. It’s a supervisor’s nightmare to have constant turnover of his experienced personnel. About the time the unit starts to click and everyone one is working together as a team he has to start all over training the new members. There is a management concept that does encourage moving personnel helter skelter but the reason is not for positive reasons it’s to keep personnel from forming tight cliques that would question the policies of management. The concept comes from a Management theory known as The Mushroom Theory of Management” The short definition of the theory is to “Keep all employees in the dark and feed them sh*t!” If you want to read more about the theory Google “Mushroom Theory” and you may find the reason for the rapid turn over at the Escambia Sheriff’s Dept.. One good read on the subject can be found at:
    http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.p ... management

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    Quite teh contrary oh-unlearned one...

    It is recommended that officers only stay in a specialized position for 2-3 years to prevent burnout. Otherwise you get narcotics officers gone bad, sex crimes investigators blowing their brains out over stress and traffic officers forgetting how to do anything except write tickets.

    The key is to look not how long the have been in the unit, BUT WHERE THEY WENT to determine the motives for the move. Deputies who move laterally or up are expanding their expereience and taking on more responsibility. (hint, hint... that is a GOOD thing)

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    New Fema money

    I read where the Federal Govt. gave Santa Rosa additional FEMA money.
    The article said part of the money is going to the S.O. I hope we can use it for well deserved raises. I just want what the County Comm get for their part time salary. Sounds reasonable to me!

    :lol:

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    Well, with all the elementry school SRO's being pulled from the schools that should give you more bodies on the road.

    fo shizzle SRO's R fo-rizzle :shock:

  9. #9
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    loves patrol work

    Quote Originally Posted by ECSO Deputy
    Quite teh contrary oh-unlearned one...

    It is recommended that officers only stay in a specialized position for 2-3 years to prevent burnout. Otherwise you get narcotics officers gone bad, sex crimes investigators blowing their brains out over stress and traffic officers forgetting how to do anything except write tickets.

    The key is to look not how long the have been in the unit, BUT WHERE THEY WENT to determine the motives for the move. Deputies who move laterally or up are expanding their expereience and taking on more responsibility. (hint, hint... that is a GOOD thing)
    On “learned one” then pray tell how that D.E.A. Agents and Customs Agents, Border Patrol Officers, F.BI. Agents and Air Marshals do the same type of work for 20 to 25 years before retiring and don’t “burn out?” Tell me how career Highway Patrol Officers, Fish and Game Officers, and Marine Patrol Officers stay at what their specialty is for a lifetime career and don’t “burn out”. Tell me how it is that we hear it taught and preached and many believe that the average “Patrol Officer” is the back bone of a local law enforcement agency. There are hundreds of thousands of us across the United States who make a life long career being “Patrol Officers” and don’t see that joining a specialist assignment has any more job satisfaction than how we serve. We are proud to wear the uniform and to serve in the uniform. The real truth old “learned one” is that if it wasn’t for the extra pay that is offered for the specialty jobs most real cops wouldn’t want anything to do with them. That’s why they have to be bribed with assignment pay into accepting them. If you think that by moving from being a patrol officer to a so called “undercover” job (which most never do), or by being a dog groomer and handler, bicycle patrol, crime scene dust spreading officer, DUI and traffic cop assignments or any of the other so called elite assignments, that move will make you a more rounded cop, then you haven’t ever really been a street cop at heart. The extra pay should be paid to the long term street cop who spends his career unselfishly serving at all hours thru thick and thin instead of those who want the 9-5, Mon-Fri or the specialty jobs that offer unlimited overtime, off duty job opportunities and the assignment pay.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SRO 4 life
    Well, with all the elementry school SRO's being pulled from the schools that should give you more bodies on the road.

    fo shizzle SRO's R fo-rizzle :shock:
    You're kidding right?

    With only a few exceptions I wouldn't take much stock in having "bodies on the road" that came from a school. It would be difficult to motivate some with a box of Turbo Lax. Keep in mind that in times past the original road dawgs have to either follow up on cases they neglected to finish or just plain screwed up.

    So we're short on the road and now should be elated that we have help coming? Joy.

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