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You obviously don't know him because he is one of the best. But, he has little patience for azz clowns, so that tells me volumes about YOU and your cowardly post!!!!!

You are kidding, right? The union was a joke! Since the union was kicked to the curb, we got everything that we wanted. (Generous raises $$$$$, Master Deputy Program, Master Corporal Program,...

Mike,

Perhaps, if you weren't such a disgruntled employee that worried about everyone else, MAYBE you would get promoted! But, that will never happen, so get over it! :evil:
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Does anyone have the hyperlink to this story?

Typical union mentality...complain about everything. Heaven forbid that you have to do a few pull-ups and run 2 miles. If you are not in shape; get in shape! DON'T GET BITTER, GET BETTER!

This statement is completely accurate. The union had absolutely NO CONTROL over what the Sheriff gave; therefore, why did we have a union? As far as the legal coverage, you can join the union right...

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Well spoken REGGIT. The Union Sucked, and it was voted out. As a result, we got our raises; we are getting a Master Deputy program AND the Detectives are finally getting the promotions that they...

I couldn't have said it better myself. The main point here is that the PBA is not even informing it's members, much less everyone else.

Thank you Average Joe; but, this is really no surprise. Due to the lack of communication between the PBA and the membership, people seem to be fabricating fact from rumor. This is one of the...

Judging from some of your previous posts, I truly doubt the sincerity of this string.

But hey, I will give you the benefit of the doubt...Merry Christmas brother!

Well, for starters, don't you think that declaring an impasse without the approval of the membership is an example of mismanagement? Personally, I do. Just because the board had the "ability" to...

So let me get this straight...I am not a member, so NOBODY can know what is going on? Please listen to what you are saying. You have dues paying members asking for information ON YOUR OWN BOARD,...

First of all, nobody said anything about criminal activity. Personally, I do not feel that I need to provide a laundry list of mismanagement examples. I truly believe that every employee of this...

Ken,

I think it is important for everyone to know where THEIR money is going. In my opinion, this is an important issue that warrants further discussion. This has less to do with stirring...

Just to make things easier, I have placed Steve's response on this string for all to see. Thank you for the clarification!

Steve,

First of all, thank you for taking the time to answer some questions. Yesterday, someone posted the above listed information under the name, "TPD GUY." Will you confirm this...

Steve,

Someone from TPD posted this information on another string; is it true?

Well, it is my understanding that because Durkin was not able to get overtime, he was given a stipend of 25k a year. From what I hear, this was quite controversial at TPD.

But to keep things...

Thank you Steve. Perhaps you can clarify the stipend issue.

1. Are you, as the Detention President receiving a stipend?

2. Do you know if the law enforcement president, Mike, is receiving...

Let me tell you something Greg, if that was my son, I would be taking his car away...not bashing the Deputy for doing his job. And for you to come over to our board and compare this situation to...

We will see! :wink:

What about the jails that have been privatized?

First of all, the Pasco Union's loss was in front of PERC. This ruling was important because it has set a precedent for similar situations. How many times have we heard the PBA complaining that they...

Take a look at this article. I attached the link at the bottom.


State backs sheriff in spat
Plus, the deputies union must pay some of Bob White's legal fees in the labor dispute.
By MOLLY...

Let's hope you meant to refer to Tampa, Temple Terrace and Plant City as INCORPORATED areas, not unincorporated. (And there is no "etc." They are the only three incorporated areas in the county.)
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The point is that the PBA used county wide statistics, and implied that they were from unincorporated Hillsborough County. If you are going to use county wide crime statistics, then you should...

This post was mine.





Well, for starters, this entire PBA media campaign is based on lies and deceit. First of all, the PBA was not able to negotiate their way out of a paper bag, so they...

Has anyone read the latest memo from the Sheriff? It provides some great information and will help everyone to see through the garbage the PBA is spreading. It is apparent that the PBA continues to...

I was on vacation. But, it does not look like I missed anything. But thanks, it's good to be back Sgt. S. :lol:

Nice try, Mike! I guess you didn't think we would notice the "oo"7 instead of 007. You sir, are an idiot!

Is it so awful to find out what the majority wants?

Let's compare apples to apples...Broward's vote was to "switch" unions, not decertify the union.

I give up...I can't argue with stupid!

Sure, once the masses start to cry foul, I'm sure you HAD to start putting out newsletters...but, that is a recent development.

And, since you obviously never actually READ the Collective...

The fact that a state PBA generated newsletter is sent out to the troops does not really update the members on local issues, does it? My point is that the PBA should have used their website to keep...

Now THAT was funny!

Are you referring to the female D3 Lt. that retired a few years back?

Well, apparently that was not enough. Numerous people have come on this site complaining about the lack of communication between the PBA board and its members. The web site could have been used to...

The PBA has never been good at disseminating information to its members. The PBA has a fantastic website that they could use to update their members on a daily basis. Only recently have they...

If you are referring to "binding arbitration" then you are living in a dream world. Why would you want someone from an outside entity making decisions for our office? Everyone knows the rules; they...

Sure, why not? :wink:

Well, like it or not, this person has raised a good point. (Although the delivery was a bit unpolished) If the PBA is going to throw stones at Crime Prevention, then Lisa Haber's position is...

Looks like patrol is not the only bargaining unit unhappy with the union! :wink:

Well, guess what? Since the union decided to declare an impasse (without the members approval), you are not going to get anything until a new contract is signed. Therefore, since you are so good...

:lol: Now that was funny! :lol:

Joe,

I agree that some people might be signing the petition with the intent of changing their vote once PERC is involved. However, I also know that there are people who are more afraid of...

Ahhh...Finally, a breath of fresh air! Thank you! :D

My guess is that this petition will decertify the union. Like it or not, many bargaining unit members are finally starting to realize that the PBA has done nothing but take their money and prevent...

You sir, are an idiot! Everytime the union is faced with a factual post, the person is accused of "union busting" or distorting the facts. Why don't you gather your thoughts and post something...

Get a grip brother! Speaking of CNT, I think we will need to call them for you pretty soon! Geez! What I was saying is that we have been short for years; long before Gee took office. Why don't...

Well, what can I say...you are right! I personally do not like the union and I do not care for it's leadership. But, that is just my opinion.

Late this afternoon, the Sheriff sent out an e-mail in response to Mike Rouleau's post on the WCFPBA website. The Sheriff corrected Mike's statements regarding the bargaining unit.

On Mike's...

Welcome back! I too have been banished and feel your pain. :wink:

Sorry Charlie...I have no clue who "W the P" is; although, I have to admit, I like his style. It must be hard to understand that people are actually capable of independant thought. As far as the 33...

I do not know who posted the statement that you are referring to; however, it is indeed factual. As of Monday this week, 33 people have dropped the union...and the number is climbing! (Per payroll)...

Additional personnel was never discussed at the bargaining table by the PBA. Most importantly, the manpower shortage was not created by the Sheriff; it was inherited from the previous...

What did everyone think of the Sheriff's letter yesterday? I think it helped to quell some of the rumors that were floating around the office. Any intelligent comments?

You do not understand...we can't even find enough qualified personnel to fill the positions that we already have. Unfortunately, this is a national problem and not limited to Hillsborough County. ...

I do not have a problem with detention personnel. I was referring to a rumor that I heard (not to long ago) about privatizing the jail system. It has been very successful in other jurisdictions for...

Perhaps, not for long!

How many employees of HCSO were actually there supporting the PBA? I only saw two sworn and 3 or 4 detention deputies. Who were the rest of the people? (Out of town help?)

Video Link: (Cut and Paste the link)
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Trouble brewing at Sheriff's Office

Pro-sheriff deputies also showed up. We've got you covered
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You make an excellent point. There are many detectives who are hard working and capable of being supervisors. However, there are also many detectives who are completely useless. (There is no need...

Please explain how it would be possible. You obviously know something the majority does not!

My argument is to have the majority decide what is best. HOW IS THAT "WORRYING ABOUT MY OWN SELFISH NEEDS?" Please think before you post this mindless dribble!

For starters, you can begin with the D1 rep. whose name sounds like hamburger. But that really does not matter at this point. The simple truth is that there are a lot of people who are not happy...

So what you are saying is that you don't care what the majority wants? Do you hear yourself?

What kind of argument is that? I am not a staff member, nor a PBA leader; therefore, I was not invited! But guess who was?

Well, since you seem to know so much, I can only assume that you were there. Please share with the rest of us what said at this meeting?

Have you been following this string? This grievance only involved FOUR FTO Corporals...and none of them wanted anything to do with the union!

I mentioned this in an earlier post, but I believe that it deserves further discussion. What is up with the PBA Representatives approaching everyone and asking them to "PROMISE" not to sign the...

Excellent post!!!

You are correct, part of effective leadership is delegation. In this case, it is apparent that the PBA did not delegate this task to a competent authority. :?

No...I just try and look at things objectively.



Let's discuss this issue for a moment. I have read the CBA numerous times and Mike's grievance was WEAK! First of all, FTO Corporal's have...

Grumpy DOES understand how the process works! So what you are telling me is that our illustrious leader could not attend a grievance meeting that he initiated; meanwhile, he WAS able to take an...

I do not have a copy of the memo in front of me; however, I will attempt to answer your question.

According to the memo, the mediation conference was held to discuss two issues. The first...

Dear Outside Looking In,

I have stepped up, and I have done something about it...I signed the petition! And you are correct, actions do speak louder than words; was that loud enough for you?...

Do you really think that the President could not get off of work to go to a grievance meeting? He is the person who filed the grievance in the first place! What you are saying does not make sense....

All I am trying to illustrate is that the union is not acting in our best interests. This administration was never given the opportunity to prove itself. All of the things that the PBA now wants...

You are obviously missing the point...if you are so comfortable with Haber representing you, then why was he so unprepared? It just seems like the PBA leadership is flying by the seat of their pants.

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I just had the opportunity to read the memo from Colonel Terry regarding the mediation conference on the 19th of October. (It was sent via e-mail today)

I just read the memo in disbelief!
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Excellent post, Wyatt. The truth is that Mike will never answer those questions. I firmly believe that the unit has the right to know these questions. We shouldn't have to go down to look at the...

I commend Jeff and Billy for doing what they believe is right. You might not agree with their views, but at least they are taking a stand for what they believe. Nobody is being forced to sign the...