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Not when it contravenes the Constitution/BoR.

So the answer is to penalize someone for what they "might" do? Whats next ? Thumbscrews for THINKING about speeding?

Why does us mere civilians haveing a weapon bother you so much?
If a position cant withstand simple questioning, maybe theres something inherently wrong with that position?

BTW.. you mentioned the 10 th Amendment...you know as well as I do that this is a gray area because the FED has chosen to ignore and usurp the powers granted therein. Which should not be happening.

Thats Exactly what Ive said. And anything specifically listed in the Constitution/BoR the Feds and states CANNOT touch.(you left out that part) The 1st, 2nd and 4th Amendments are just a few examples...

Yeah...that damned Bill of Rights!
Friggin civies dont deserve any rights unless we OK it first!

Btw...no one has called me a wife beater yet...you guys are slipping! :snicker:

Im 50 years old so again...answer the questions...

Wrong... subsequent state and/or federal laws cannot contradict the constitution.
Our system , unlike some countries, operates on the "higher law " principle, that higher law being the Constitution....

No, what I think the writer was saying is that you are a whack job nut. Your philosophies fly in the face of living in an orderly society. Your argument that most laws are but the will of tyrants...

Ah...the Constitution/BoR make no sense...I see. I guess that explains it better Than I ever could have.

You are absolutely right, For all you know, it could all be BS... The exact same could be said for you. Despite all that, the facts Ive listed above have still to be addressed...again, you seem to be...

Cant address the facts so we call names and fabricate nonsense....some things never change.

No, what I think the writer was saying is that you are a whack job nut. Your philosophies fly in the face of living in an orderly society. Your argument that most laws are but the will of tyrants...

So, in effect, you saying that Jefferson is a "whack job" also?
I guess that explains the nazi-esque attitude.

They mostly sit in a circle, tell each other how badass they are and touch themselves.

Abuse of authority in NOT needed. Unfortunately this is no longer an exception...it is the rule.
To quote Thomas Jefferson...."Rightful liberty is unobstructed action according to our will within...

Because people across the board are getting tired of the "authority" BS.

The point is, cops kill plenty of people (and get away with it) yet no one gives a sh!t about that...If you feel your job is too dangerous then quit. BTW..according to the latest census numbers, the...

"Daniel Hiler ran out of gas during an evening motorcycle ride in Oildale, California on December 16. While walking his bike to a gas station, the twenty-year-old father of two ran into a family...

Its original title was "The Andy Griffith Show".

Wow, you guys seem to really dislike the double standard thing when YOU get the short end of the stick , Huh?
Remember that the next time you let one of your buddies slide for doing something the...

A Glock salesman?

He was running from the FHP... :snicker:

Douche, how old are you? Just another internet toughguy/ armchair bada$$. Keep jerking off to the FHP poster on your wall and sleep dreams about driving a black and tan you piece of...

Again...how old are you REALLY?

Maybe you should define "reputable".
Its been my experience over the years that the majority of reputable people are hiding just as many skeletons as those they point fingers at. I dont think I know...

The offenses were listed in the article. Read it.

Remember, the government didn't get Al Capone for bootlegging or murder, but for tax evasion.

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I read the article and yes...

Exactly what laws were broken? This is interesting..

"But its ok to to make fun of Americans who put thier lives on the line and have been killed in thier own country? Any civilian that comes on here makes it a point to take a massive dump on all cops...

How old are you really?

Actually, Nazi Germany was Nazi with the help of the police....just following orders...What the Nazis, Stalin , Pol Pot and the like did and do was with the help of the police . Everything they did...

Oh, now Im hurt.
The truths a b!tch huh?
BTW...Im not hiding behind the "Guest" label, you are. If youre so top notch, use my ISP and give me a visit. Leave the badge at home...it wont help you.

I hate to break it to you but the "police" , when compared to the overall grand scheme of things is a fairly recent invention, so get over yourself. Civilization somehow made it without you for a...

The problem is, a private citizen ,under the same circumstances, would be in a world of sh!t. You guys still wonder why you have very little public support?[/quote]


STFU and crawl back under the...

The problem is, a private citizen ,under the same circumstances, would be in a world of sh!t. You guys still wonder why you have very little public support?

:devil: The big hand is on the 6 and the little hand...

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Does this mean that you arent happy?

You guys have a hard life.

All whining aside....my biggest issue with Watts is, If this is her approach with a LEO, what will be her approach with a private citizen?
I can only assume that as distasteful as her actions were,...

Yearbook?
How old are you people really?

""Robert Marino stopped too closely behind a bus full of school children, the Florida Highway Patrol reported, and when the driver of the bus turned right from Country Club Parkway onto Joel...

Ok, Rambo.

Either you arent LEO or ...well...
You dont know how things really work, do you?

The Patriot Act only applied to federal agencies anyway. Kinda goes out of the scope of y'alls original argument. :? (which was, correct me if im wrong, if the patrol could be justified in...

You tell me....I'm not the one spewing dumb shit like "certain agencies don't need warrants to get IP info.". So I guess in your world, certain agencies are given carte blanche on 4th amendment...

Are you REALLY that slow?

Well in that case, the party requesting IP information would have to go through the ISP and get it through them. And believe me, if you have ever tried to get specific info through any...

Lol what a moron. You really expect people to believe that our supervisors have IP addresses of those posting on here? Leoaffairs specifically will NOT release IP addresses unless under order by...

^^^^^^^^^^

Like I said ...REVENUE.

", an honest day’s work for an honest day’s pay"

Thats debatable.

And it may very well do so! Unfortunately , or fortunately, depending on your viewpoint , Its about the money. Revenue. Remember "Show me the money!"? Thats how it works whether you are a LEO or a...

So whats your point? Cops falsely arrest people all day long...You dont like it when it happens to you?

And whos fault is that?

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And unfortunately, HER reaction to dealing with a simple traffic infraction made her look foolish in the eyes of law enforcement bretheren. And frankly, I don't give two shizzats about...

Florida Dept. of Revenue .

Unfortunately, the facts say otherwise...

See, now you are using common sense! Im fairly certain that you arent allowed to do that...its a rule or policy or something. Do it again and youll get banned.

WoW!
Thats what I call dangerous felons!
The Captain have a boat payment coming due? Gotta generate that revenue!

So, What exactly was rambo Whitehouse conserving?

Thats a "pot calling the kettle black" statement if Ive ever heard one!

Why do you suppose that is?

They might be soon.
Yep, the squeaking wheel gets the grease...its also the wheel that gets replaced first.

Whats wrong? Not use to having to actually WORK?

Its called working for a living gentlemen. You guys have been immune to it for a very long time but now its creeping into the public sector.
The bosses dont care about you? Waaaaaa! They arent paid...

It use to be like this all the time. Id rather give a cop 50 bucks cash rather than giving it to the morons that claim to run the show.

Why? Are you doing something you shouldnt be?

Silence..... our massa done gone and gots hisself all pissed off! Please massa! Dont whup us no mo!



FYI--- The "authority" that you seem to be so fond of is granted to you by the very people...

Hmm. You seem to be operating under the assumption that LEOs are the only people that should have weapons...why is that?

Which part are you having trouble understanding?
Seems fairly self explanatory.

You guys are starting to sound like a bunch of 5 year old fighting over the sandbox.

You are in BIG trouble now!! :lol:

To the previous guy... It isnt about the "bag-o-sand" , It merely demonstrates issues that may arise from dirt and crap of any nature and which weapon would...

See! already upsetting the Glock missionaries!! :snicker:

Thanks, I really appreciate it!

who preformed this test? A link?
The reason I ask is because the Glock missionaries are gonna vapor-lock and I want to be able to shut them up once and for all.

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Thats it?
Dont address the facts just do the Mom thing?
You guys arent really cops are you? The cops I know are considerably more articulate....come on, wheres the camera? Allan, is that you?

So, who ARE the real criminals?
A private citizen doing 120 and not stopping til some minutes later?

The war against crime you moron. By the way we can and will continue to use discretion when enforcing traffic and misdemeanor laws. Troll.[/quote]


Troll....Hmmm. Must not disagree or you are a...

First of all, your darn right, we do get a pass. We deserve it, its called professional courtesy. Its just like when you work at Mc Donalds and you take your lady on a date at another Mc Donalds and...

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Feel free to point out anything stupid...was it the mention of a bill of rights?
Sorry there Einstein but ALL employers are allowed to infringe on various rights all the time. How many times in the...

Funny how a lot of you arent very concerned with the Bill of Rights when its someone other than yourself.

And there we have it!

Ah, selective application of the law!

BTW, What "war" would that be?

Sir/Maam, you are missing the point. No one is condoning that Officer Lopez was speeding, it is obvious from the video that he was traveling at a very excessive rate of speed. What every law...

Heres an idea...Learn how to take care of yourself!!
Its what big people do.

Im still waiting for one of you geniuses to explain why you feel that you are somehow exempt from the very laws you enforce. And, while youre at it, explain why the average citizen should not be fed...

Without a doubt, Watts has an issue.... they both need an old fashioned a$$ kicking. Forget the legal stuff, a couple of bumps and a few bruises is whats called for here.

Sorry, but this could all have been avoided if that a$$ jockey Lopez had been obeying the law....yes, believe it or not they apply to everyone! Surprise!

Ah! So if someone not sporting a shiny badge does 120 does the interstate they are "sh*t bags" but if a cop does it thats fine...nice.

Wow! You guys really hate it when you arent the only ones with a gun huh? maybe Cops will start treating people a little better....nah...THAT wont ever happen.

In short....."Additional Funding".
No, I did not say "additional funding for your Dept". Additional funding for someone(s) somewhere..... Dont rock the boat, you just might fall out.

" Speeding is not the crime of the century"

Hmm, certainly seems to be when a non-LEO does it. Do you think that just maybe this kind of crap is why the averge citizen is fed up with cops and...