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Been here quite a while and I have not seen anybody get tagged with a bad shoot. We have good guys making sound judgments out there and I have never seen a move to hang someone over any shooting. ...

Well, what's wrong with that? Having to be a Sergeant before you are a Lieutenant means you're going to have to work your ass off for years running a night shift in some unpleasant place reading...

I've got to defend the folks in tech support. Not once over many years have I ever received attitude from them. They have always been responsive and work until the problem is solved whether I was...

Idle speculation, wishful thinking so as to push an agenda, or do you know something?

Bravo is the place to be. Great guys, lots of "interesting" stuff going on all the time. You'll work hard but have a lot of fun at the same time. All the Captains who have rotated through see this...

I wasn't going to answer this , But this too good and I can't help it !

Lee county has 375,723 Registered Voters
Less than 70,000 voted in the Primary out of 166,624 Reg. Republicans
Here's...

The people of Lee County are afraid of Mike Scott? The guy wins the Republican nomination for reelection with almost 75% of the vote because people are "afraid" of him? It sounds to me like they...

Right you are, Randy. This is an action district. New Trainees get to see everything fast (and repeatedly) from experienced FTO's and develop veteran instincts very quickly after going 10-8. Many...

OK...Anybody ever hear or see Mike Scott say or do anything that could, in any way, imply he is "anti-gun?" He appears to be a conservative Republican and being soft on the Second Amendment would...

90-95% of the district Is quite a few, you're right. And they are bring people UP to their level. Informing people of facts and how dirty certain people are is not a disgruntled malcontent act. ...

I have also been there many years and am very happy with this Captain. I see him everywhere, have backed him on 10-50's, and he shows up on my scenes many times. He is very approachable and loves...

90-95% of the district Is quite a few, you're right. And they are bring people UP to their level. Informing people of facts and how dirty certain people are is not a disgruntled malcontent act. ...

ABANDONED not ABANDED...Sorry, it's too much to bear. Some of you write like third graders.

All great points except I doubt very much the guy who shot the killer will have any problem whatsoever living with his actions. Sounded like a pretty good shoot to me. Miller time...

Sorry you're retiring Randy...one less damn good Sergeant around who understands how to lead. You will be missed!

Now, that is funny and I'm still laughing!

Come on, guys...anybody in politics or marketing knows when you lose a customer or a previous supporter, you ask them why they left. You might learn something. If you are losing a lot of them, you...

It would seem to me that a union so recently voted in to a department that has never had one would make a significant effort to communicate with its members and potential members. The non-members...

Don't read so much into it. He is just using the common political technique of using the question to spin off into what he really wants to say. A media interview is not a deposition. It is up the...

Well, I don't think anybody, besides the Sheriff, really "hates" the union. but I don't think too many are so far very impressed with it. What genius at the union let it endorse against the Sheriff...

That's a lot of jive...they were long time FTO's and the OT practice has been in place for years. I see the story appears to be changing. Now, it's all so confusing...who do we blame? Those wussy...

I know three FTO's who were contacted in the last few weeks and said they would be happy to sign a grievance, never heard back, and then found out time had expired to file a grievance. The union...

What prevents the sheriff from sitting at the same table with IUPA and agreeing on some sort of a pay raise? This way, when he submits his budget request, the pay raises can already be budgeted...

Not to be too negative but...why would the Sheriff just give out a raise when the Deputies and Sergeants insisted on bargaining for pay and benefits? We should be looking forward to impasse because...

You are absolutely right. The decision was about dollars and sense. But just ask any one of your union reps. They wanted to take them away. I guess it came up at the last couple of meetings. ...

Where does all this car crap come from? We all have cars beause someone figured out it saves money for us all to have a vehicle and personally make sure it gets it's maintenance done. All our gear...

Receiving a political head shot with an embarrassing picture from your past is basic hard ball politics. You know it's coming. Even the Sheriff has had all his past embarrassments repeatedly thrown...

Hey, gangster boy, just because some of us get cranky on this site doesn't mean you'll get inside info on an active investigation. Go fish somewhere else.

Great!
Now, we'll have hood rats running all over the Canadian District looking for Donald. Everybody knows how tough it is up there.

I know him very well. His name is...Jason Bourne.

Really? I don't see any mass exodus from this place. A few fast burners did lose patience with the slow pace of advancement here, even though they were doing quite well. But most are just...

"We few...we happy few...we band of brothers!" Right.

OK...keep making demands. See what it gets you.

Things are not falling apart because the union endorsed Fisher. He's a nice enough guy who just doesn't have a clue what he is doing...any more than Bushong does. The union is failing because they...

They call that being a *****.



The "slow erosion of support" comes from the aforementioned pussies hiding like little *****es in the shadows waiting for things to be safe to come out.

I'm...

ooooohhhh...scarrrryyyy....[/quote] Hmmm, I'm glad you can laugh given how this place operates.

I would absolutely support such a contract. It would be a dream-come-true. But my concerns with the activities of the AFL-CIO still stand. Their actions at the national level are diametrically...

The vast majority of the Sergeants and Deputies are sitting back waiting to see what contract is finally agreed to before they become dues-paying members. They don't trust a union to deliver but...

Obama is surrounded by people (and even "convicted felons!") dedicated to the destruction of this country. The AFL-CIO is right there helping the radicals including the
Occupy Wall Street crowd. ...

Correct. The Sheriff is perceived to have little impact on the average voter's life. He doesn't raise taxes and doesn't vote on laws in a legislative body. He's just a cop in charge of a bunch of...

Unless a monster check and major ground support accompanies this endorsement, it will not cause a ripple with the voters.

Call him what you want but he had more guts than any of you when he showed the cajones to take on the Sheriff in 2004 and beat him into the ground. Where were all you "qualified" guys then? Just to...

Hats, dress shoes, coats and ties...we've drifted away? More like we evolved to functionality. The Army used to where nonfunctional, extremly uncomfortable, and heavily starched cotton fatigues...

If Tim Fisher spends his time discussing internal operations minutia of the LCSO, he will put the voters to sleep...that is assuming he has any money to pay for the media he needs so they can hear...

The more time you spend talking to reporters, the more trouble you get into. They are not your friends. They construct a story, usually critical or made up, and then jam you with questions designed...

Sounds like Lee had already gone through his witch hunt and came out one rank reduced. Lying low is the usual smart move to an event like that. You eventually have a chance for a rebound. I have...

There were NO other sergeants in the county??? Were his men scared, or did they get lost without him? Were they in a gun battle when he left? Oh my, however did they survive the night without daddy...

There are dozens of important factors to consider in this issue. You chose to make fun of our uniforms and spend time talking about the color you want to wear. I can only infer you thought it was...

Yes, that's certainly one of the most critical issues we need to consider.

"He is working to put together some sound bites. In the meantime: If you have particular questions, you can post some on his website. He will answer them. You can remain anonymous & check back for a...

Must have missed that meeting where quotas were handed out. Traffic stops have always been encouraged as a good way to get into suspicious cars. Tell me you can't find something wrong with a car...

Pay what to who? It appears the action is between Yerk and PETA. Is LCSO a named defendant? I don't think so...Remember, Yerk resigned. LCSO did not fire him.

Ha! Now there's a story I'd really rather forget!

Can LCSO at least handle an internal allegation of mistreatment of an animal? I would think so, despite everything...we all know what a blow-hard the allegedly offending Deputy is known to be. But...

Come on, Counselor! You don't need to practice your opening statement in your civil suit here. You already know all the answers to these questions.

Since when does the Office of the Governor investigate or prosecute anybody? I don't think that is their role. We have an Attorney General who does that. Of course, at any time, the US Attorney...

You may friend fear Bushong, it is so evident that you know nothing about the Marine Corps. Like Mike, how many times did you have your lunch money taken in high school?[/quote]Dare I say this? The...

He may not be counting on endorsements from anyone but his rich and powerful f(elon)riends but when the general public starts seeing how his own employees vote no confidence in him by having their...

That was a penetrating analysis. We from the military looked up to our leaders then and knew they were looking out for us. Nobody had or needed a union. Nobody even thought about a union. There...

Though reasonable in your comments, you make a lot of assumptions. If I recall, the phone records were given to Cook by Spence's ex-girlfriend. As far as your comment about the Sheriff's combative...

Not sure where we are disagreeing...But this does appear to be a clever set-up by a campaign. The phone records were probably already in Bushong's hands when the question was asked at the event by a...

The Spence story, for all intents and purposes, was dead and buried. Nobody cares. At the behest of Scott's political opponents, Cook wrote a routine gotcha article dredging up the issue to...

Powerful stuff. Can you back it up?[/quote]
The Kidsta is 100% correct! In the next 72 hours or so many of the things the Kidsta says will come out! Stay tuned, the criminal acting as a Sheriff will...

Look at the current Sheriff Linebacker II, he has been the assassin of hatred some racial some age and gender. By the way why does LB's allegations have to be "white hot" allegations why not red??? A...

Look at the current Sheriff Linebacker II, he has been the assassin of hatred some racial some age and gender. By the way why does LB's allegations have to be "white hot" allegations why not red??? A...

Is the long anticipated Bushong press conference, coming out party, or rapture about to take place? Bushong is going to look like a complete idiot if he stands up there, makes a bunch of white hot...

Umm...good point. Bushong has nothing new to tell us (or it would already be out). I suspect the burglary probably took place but Bushong saw an opportunity to get some free publicity and sympathy....

Is it possible that the infamous "Linebacker II" is the "MAD CUBAN" (AKA-A.M.)? I[/quote]

So...I'm "infamous" now? How is that? Just expressing my well reasoned opinions! I never called any of...

What? Are you really that deluded? Maybe 50 people in the County read that article... the first three sentences before they got bored...Bushong does not "know" anything more about Scott and his...

Bushong said nothing new in his article. All this stuff was made public years ago and the public shrugged. He is the most popular figure in Lee County politics and, right now, looks to be a lock...

What, is Lee going to write another rambling screed against Scott accusing him of all manner of wrong-doing? Will he then promise all the deputies a big raise and swear he will never impose...

This is a gag post but if he really works at 10-19, he doesn't have to try for details, he's already mobbed up.

This is absolutely correct. Details are a lousy, stinking racket at LCSO. The managers of this inside game and the participants don't even try to hide it. You are either, as in mafia terms, "a...

Anyone who takes this seriously will deserve the IA and psych eval they get out of it. What LEO is going to set up something called "pigs on patrol?" Summer and Peter...right.

Has everyone missed the Sam Cook Article in the Sunday News Press? MS took 53 K from PBA to fund his campaign. He promised to welcome the union.

I don't know enough about LB to say whether or...

No. We're not all ball lickers like you.[/quote]

Hah! Great comeback...it made me laugh! If you saw where I work and how long I have been there, you would understand I am not of that persuasion....

Haven't heard a thing since the previous post. If it's more discussion of unfair promotions or over paid civilians it will have as much impact as it does everytime it's brought up: Zero.

Smooth moves by a very smart incumbent. He gets to raise his profile region wide with very positive ads for which he doesn't have to pay. He will hold off filing papers for reelection until the...

Not that this is news to anybody but the "Command Staff" (if we are all agreeing to use the word "Command" when referring to the chairborne commandos of 10-19), have no desire to address any of the...

Since there is no money for raises, maybe all the deputies should start appearing...in uniform...in commercials for car dealers, alarm companies, and motorcycle shops. You know there would be some...

That is quite correct. Scott will look to take Bushong out early...when and if Lee becomes a credible candidate. He will become credible when he shows an ability to raise enough money to compete...

That is quite correct. Scott will look to take Bushong out early...when and if Lee becomes a credible candidate. He will become credible when he shows an ability to raise enough money to compete...

If Bushong underestimates the Sheriff and assumes he's a dumb coward as Bumpy says, there will be blood all over the walls at those debates. And it won't be Scott's. There is no attack line Bushong...

The upshot is that if the Sheriff and union do not agree, either during negotiation or during a mediator review, Ray Judah, Brian Bigelow, and our good friend Frank Mann, will write and impose a...

I answer because I like the point-counterpoint of a board...but since you asked about your grammar...You need a comma between "help" and "boy." A comma between "on" and "resist" is also needed. ...

Here's another thing I've learned: When the words "you" and "are" get contracted, it is properly written as "you're" not "your." The word "your" indicates possession by another party as in "your...

Right, guest 111...I have been nowhere, seen nothing, and accomplished little. I am sorry you have had such an unpleasant life you think was controlled by the rest of us. You seem to have chosen an...

Guest111, calling someone a nasty name you disagree with is very typical behavior of a liberal. It shows you do not trust the intellectual power of your argument and must throw rocks to change the...

"Socioeconomic Backgrounds" is a lot of sociology babble...and sociology is junk science, used by those who believe in government central planning, to study society as if it is an ant colony. In...

Someone who has made the decision to register as a Republican would not refer to people using class terms. That is language used by socialists and communists...as is the silly screech that a...

It's about time...a lot of the guys couldn't last 30 seconds in a fight. And forget about foot pursuit. That would be status 7 to Lee Control on our way to another kind of 7.

Something keeps bugging me about this union thing. The Sergeants voted them in several weeks ago (months?). What has IUPA done since then? The famous "forensic audit" of the budget does not take...

I must have missed something (not the first time!). Have enough cards been sent in to mandate an election on the IUPA question by the deputies?

Plans are already in the mix for rank after 2012, there will be one undersheriff, two chief deputies, four colonels and a bunch of majors.[/quote]


Not bad work if you can get it! Lots of inside...

We're "really tough" talking behind a screen name? You mean like secretly orchestrating a coup behind your Captain's back? I served under Gary and didn't particularly enjoy it. He treats his...

Kamp's irritating personality and intimidating style were no secret to anyone as he climbed the ranks. That's just Gary. Some liked him: many did not. But why, all of a sudden, is his behavior so...

The road?? Don't blink when this "help" shows up. "Discretion" will make him an MCU detective before next Thanksgiving.

Yes, there is a simple chase policy but it is very cleverly worded. Here it is in plain language: If you chase somebody and something goes wrong, you were wrong and you will hang.

duiguy, who do you work for? If you are with LCSO, you need to open your eyes and really see what is going on....unless you are purposely deluding yourself into believing "slackers" are organizing...

A 14 year old girl...what an evil person Payne is!! He is going exactly where he belongs, I hope, for a very long time.

Seasoned Sergeant, this is the general attitude of most of us. I don't think many really want a union coming in here and tying up the Agency in knots. We don't want to loose the flexibility to...

I can understand some of the CC noted by Mikey, they were in the detectives change of command, others listed are not. What I would fine interesting is if any of the change of command had the nerve...

It is amazing we all line up like lemmings every time there is a posting even though everybody know the system is completely rigged. The people in charge already know who is getting the slot. It is...

Anyone from outside LCSO who reads the stuff posted here would wonder how this Agency ever catches any bad guys. Command Staff seems consumed with insider back-stabbing and political positioning. ...

Still can't resist the name calling, I see...and now you claim to be a long disatance psychiatrist who can devine mental "issues" from afar. Of course, you just throw out your diagnosis with no...

Fishing expeditions happen everyday in the LCSO and its my guess that you approve of them happening? *Too bad we are not allowed to invoke our 5th amendment right during these frivolous IA...

Great! A trial lawyer attacking a person for invoking his 5th Amendment rights. How many times has he advised his clients...the guilty and the innocent...to keep their mouths shut? One...

Nobody who reads this site would ever think I'm Mike Scott...but that is just more name-calling on your part. Do you wonder why the union failed first time around? It is exactly because of those...

This is a silly statement which shows typical liberal disrespect for a party that stands for freedom and a financially sound government. Nowhere in the party platform will you find anything saying...

How self righteous and judgemental people get behind annonymous computer screens! How quick to condemn and belittle...jabbing at someone when they are down. How many of you have had more then the...

This is a story worth of several minutes on TV? Why did the LCSO even waste time tracking this down? Nice to hear the Sheriff is "looking into" whether or not he should put a clerk on...

Got it...unions are bad. So what are your ideas for fixing what is wrong in the LCSO?

Do you really think Sam Cook and the News-Press has to come to this site to find out what's going on in the LCSO? The place leaks like a sieve! Pursuing their own individual agendas, people E mail...

I'm sure you'll do very well in your IA explaining how a car in front of you just flipped while going 80mph and you had not called out a 10-50. Witness statements and the driver's statements might...

For what it's worth...I've heard pretty good reviews about the clinic from guys who have gone there. So far, it appears to be operating as first advertised. It's not all bad around here...

You can do something about it! There will be an election next year and you will have the opportunity to throw this idiot out of office. He is a vindictive little man who was never a cop; probably...

It's no fun piling on one of our own who has screwed up. But we all know some of us are crazy and somehow snuck into the job. If he did this, we all know what needs to be done.

"Shame on LCSO" for being proud of its pursuit policy? I don't think pride has anything to do with it. If you have any idea what you are talking about, i.e. you are an LEO, you should understand...

This is pretty funny and I'm still laughing. I particularly like the billboard idea. Imagine the raging public debate we would have after that popped up! Starting out a traffic stop by asking,...

IUPA needs to be more creative then just showing up at roll calls. That merely replicates the efforts of PBA and most of us feel betrayed by what happened during and after that election. PBA's...

IUPA Comrade, my concern is I don't see the kind of commitment from IUPA toward the effort to sell the union idea to deputies and to take on the Sheriff. Expecting hard working deputies to skulk...

IUPA appears to be recreating the unsuccessful PBA campaign. No formal communication with potential members, contradictory information put out anonymously on website forums, no firm schedule of...

Starting rumors, I see. A little reality check: Rick Scott won this election all by himself. Mike Scott did not even endorse him. Establishment Republicans did nothing for him. Rick Scott does...

And the battle rages on. Most deputies are suspicious of unions and their over-hyped promises. When hired, deputies start out fiercely loyal to the Agency and respect their superior officers. They...

Is PBA now circulating cards to Sgts AND Lts or just Sgts? This is really slick politics! I always said the Sheriff was smart! Underestimating him is a big mistake for anyone.

So what is the PBA play here? I'm not sure I understand what they are attempting to do. What is the possible involvement of Command staff and how does it affect the current IUPA effort?

So what is the PBA play here? I'm not sure I understand what they are attempting to do. What is the possible involvement of Command staff and how does it affect the current IUPA effort?

PBA got completely punked by the Sheriff in the last election. Scott very cleverly took over the election and PBA did not respond aggressively. Was there a deal cut? Who knows? That's all...

So predictable...when it is difficult to address arguments on this board or someone appears not to be slashing at the Sheriff, the "Guests" usually resort to name-calling and speculating a writer...

Glad to see that the above writer states or admits "corruption you despise in the Sheriff". I don't believe the previous writer should or wants to run for Sheriff, it was the Sheriff they were...

Ahem...I never said anything about what I wanted in a Sheriff. I am commenting on the fact that his internal detractors do not have the courage to take him on straight up when it really counts...in...

Nobody gives you power, you have to take "it." Left some off...

And your point being...what? Mike Scott sucks? Look, pounding on him because you don't think he is qualified to be Sheriff is silly and small-minded. He is the elected Sheriff. Twice. This is a...

Really? You think a State Trooper arresting or ticketing a fellow law enforcement officer is evidence of anything??? And I say law enforcement officer because those aren't cops. Not by a long shot. A...

Perhaps MCU should have formed a circle around the body, held hands, and prayed for the world to "Stop the hate, stop the violence!" This would have shown the proper level of sensitivity. Geeez!
...

I know this is a delicate issue and I understand the Brotherhood, the Thin Blue Line, and all the rest...and I believe in it but...he caused an accident, someone was hurt, and the victim noticed he...

Come on guys! You know he's a goner and he deserves it. No union could save him and he doesn't deserve to be saved.

OK...why don't you enlighten us on all the mistakes made? Without doing that, your post is wasted space. Don't forget to put up some of the 20 times he could have taken out LEO's.

Tuttle is a classic violent sociopath neck-deep in the drug world. And, yes, all his friends are scum bags ands so is his family. He would have no hesitiation to kill anyone including an LEO if...

Good answers for the questions on the IUPA site. It get a little fuzzy, though, when they talk about a contract impasse going to the "legislative body," here being the County Commission. Does...

Somewhat surprised Foell kept his appointment. Given the initial publicity on this incident, I figured he was a goner. In a more perfect world and given his superb record, a suspension would have...

Yawn...it's Ground Hog Day...again...

So Mike Scott was an agressive candidate who sought to "clear the field" before he ran for office. So this is bad? What did you expect him to do? Should he have just sat and waited for a...

What brought this little explosion on? This series of exchanges has been lying here since late November and suddenly somebody decides to return a volley in January? I didn't think things were that...

Lots of ranting here...is it accomplishing anything? It seems clear to me a large majority of the deputies are content with the leadership of Mike Scott as evidenced by the recent union vote. The...

He will certainly not agree with this but the best thing that can happen to the Sheriff is the PBA being voted in by his deputies. The absolute power he now has, which now gets him into many...

OK, Dances with Wolves, your message was well reasoned until you threw in rumors of misdeeds by the Sheriff. That is not fair to the Sheriff. If you have hard information and want to use it in your...

Oh boy! A hot, tittilating rumor! just what we need on this board. I love the transparent theatrics. Let's gets everybody excited about gossip. Just what is the point of posting such an...

This is a pointless conversation. Mike Scott is the Sheriff of Lee County, put there by the voters with two landslide elections. It is not up to his deputies to decide he is no longer up to the...

Surely you're jest. Frank Mann--our friend???I think not-he has voted against any contract since he's been in office-where r u getting your info. I suggest you relook at your paycheck. I haven't...

Stop looking at the current amount of money available to LCSO as a finite pot that can never grow. There is plenty of money at the County level...we are building a $100 million stadium for 19 Red...

Keep it positive?! It is hard to see how watching the Sheriff setting himself on fire is a positive exercise for the Agency. This may take quite awhile to develop. Whatever happens, I hope it...

It is so unfortunate that we have to endure these controversies. All of them are rooted in individual vanities and personal ambitions. Our politically talented Sheriff appears to have ignored the...

Assuming this is an accurate portrayal of events, the blame and responsibility lies completely with the deputy. It is understandable the family would want to avoid the harsh publicity and attention...

The reason things become so negative on this site is because there is a tremendous amount of built-up frustration in the ranks at the LCSO. We watch the palace guard and the "chosen people" do...

No...it does not happen to the best of us. This deputy was married with a family. This did not "happen" to him. He made a conscious decision to break his marraige vows with this young girl. All...

What, they were really scary looking? An interesting bunch...they have hardly ever done anything (not their fault) but train up on police modified infantry building-clearing tactics yet they have an...

It's just one incident and this guy is lucky he still has a job. I'm a road guy who was never a CO but I'll bet almost half of us were CO's at one point. I have no problem with them carrying off...