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Well Mr. /Mrs. Retiree, I too believe that the jury got it right.
I do have over 30 years in law enforcement and no, I will not register here or anywhere else as I don’t find it necessary and...

Well, when you're wrong.......... You're wrong.

Stand Your Ground was presented to the jury; not by the defense but by the judge in the Jury Instructions.

Quote: "If George Zimmerman was not...

I didn't throw a party when Cal retired A.J. I actually liked the man and thought he was a fair person. I also voted to retain the union although I felt a change in the union leadership would need...

Since you are posting on the HCSO forum I'm wondering if your husband is an HCSO deputy. You need not answer.

HCSO used to condone having dispatchers do "ride alongs" with deputies to get...

What's really sad was seeing rookie agents with no law enforcement background sent directly to protection shortly after attending the training schools. They then rose through the pay grades to the...

Seeing the outline of a vest under a shirt is not nearly the reminder as seeing the vest itself on the outside. Especially in the stress of an armed confrontation. I've worn both; the outside one...

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It's not your father's............. or even our.........Secret Service anymore.

Alas.....................

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I wish sincere good luck to all of the HCSO personnel involved in the upcoming confluence of the Republican National Convention and Hurricane Isaac.

It takes no crystal ball to foresee long hours...

Already did my man and aint regretting it one bit. Take care, be safe and remember, you only live once. There's more to life than work.[/quote]


Good for you Blog!

For the last several...

Not negative my man just realistic. Yeah I've had a few bad days around here the last few months but I don't let it bother me because I have already made my decision to do something else and cash...

Actually, when you look at the big picture, the "police" is a fairly recent invention.
Prior to that , people took care of themselves.
How many of you would still remain a cop if there was no...

Not negative my man just realistic. Yeah I've had a few bad days around here the last few months but I don't let it bother me because I have already made my decision to do something else and cash...

I disagree. It is not a personal ego thing at all, it is a lack of adherence to our system of law and order. Burglary is a property crime yet we can and should chase for it because if we do not bring...

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OK, it is time to cut to the chase (excuse the pun) and discuss what chases are really all about................

It's not about whether the person fleeing has committed a major crime, a...

I have been responding to you on another thread with the screen name Counterintitutive simply because I've been too lazy to log on with my registered name.

On that thread we are not in agreement....

Ahhh. A refreshing whiff of humor.

:D

I'll take a stab at responding to the questions.

1. I'm sure the SOP took effect when published.

2. The SOP is a Sheriff's Office rule. It is designed by lawyers to protect the Sheriff's...

Roland:

Some questions occur to me:

1. Do the outside agencies pay HCSO for the use of the range? If so, do these rentals make a profit for HCSO?

2. Do they, and other shooters, leave...

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Another thread makes a big deal about Rick Scott taking the 5th Amendment during a deposition.

It incorrectly makes the assumption that the only justification for taking the 5th Amendment...

How long have you been at HCSO?[/quote]

Joe, I'm surprised and confused by your responses. You and I are often pretty much on the same page with regard to issues around the office. I don't...

Really?

Like when the publisher of the Tribune would call Blackburn to complain about getting a verbal warning for a traffic offense; or when Sparkman in Plant City would call Heinrich when our...

Average Joe is correct. That shooting of a deputy, whose full name I see no reason to put on this public site, was not a LEO related incident.

The public cannot simply call TECO or Brighthouse...

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Did you ever go to court and then drive home?

How tail conscious are you?

THAT'S how easy it would be for anyone who really wants to know where you live to find you.

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You simply don't understand the system.

First, when you say it is a "trend" you don't seem to understand that it isn't a "trend," it is the way the system is designed.

When Ed Blackburn took...

I remember it differently.

The person who pushed the "pass the test or get fired" policy was Linda Webb, assigned to Training.

She also passed out loony tunes handouts in training class about...

There's a little flaw in your rant.

A review of the roster of pilots reveals some excellent cops, beginning with the recently retired MSgt. Mark Yost.

Just to name a couple of others, Kevin...

Who is Average Joe? Are you new here? Average Joe has been posting on this board for years. He has constantly been a voice of reason, moderation and common sense. He can criticize the...

We had SOT years ago in the old Police Academy when it was operated by TPD. Most people didn't realize it back then because it was just one subject in the overall academy. It also had an ultimately...

I thought that by now there would be a post on here about the passing of George Steinbrenner.

Perhaps many of us are not aware of what a great friend of Law Enforcement Mr. Steinbrenner was.

He...

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I've gotta agree.
I've done all three.

Dispatcher, "jail guard" and road deputy have all...

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That post is so excellent that I wish I had written it. Great post!...

The money spent on the guns would be enough to give everyone a one-time bonus of $400 for the year. Subtract the money saved and that would really be about $300. Take out taxes etc and everyone...

I sure hope they are not. That person is a class act and knows what it takes to get a crime scene processed the right way. He knows more about crime scenes and latent prints than any other person in...

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Have you noticed that the panhandlers on the street corners no longer have signs saying "Will Work For Food?"

Now they just say "Please Help."

It's another indication of the evolving...

My first reaction when I read the letter was that somebody was putting us on and this was written to show where the current culture of entitlement might take us someday. My second thought was there...

Your anger is mis-directed when you blame HCSO. By what stretch of the imagination do you think HCSO can retain a certified deputy whose medical condition prevents him from returning to full duty...

Been there done that. You know why alot of us guys and gals earned the right to eat warm meals at home my friend? I'll tell ya why. Because we have eaten plenty of meals out of a can or a freeze...

Now THAT is an excellent post.

The issues are stated clearly and explained. They are well reasoned and give reasons that justify change.

Best of all, there is no name calling.
...

"Ve get too soon oldt and too late schmart." - German Proverb

You've got it!!!

When the movement to form a collective bargaining unit began several years ago I posted on leoaffairs, using my...

I've got to join with Joe on this one. If the change in the manner of collecting statistics has been as described then there has actually been no decrease in crime IF you are comparing statistics...

Not unexpectedly, we again receive a message of angry irrational personal abuse from a younger, inexperienced and presumably more athletic brother who is totally ignorant of the situation of either...

AT LAST!!!

Here's a post that makes sense.

I couldn't care less that a couple of majors went at each other and someone else made a joke about it.

The real point is that the "Fitness...

TO THE NITELY BLOG:

So little Stevie has called you "Blogboy"? Actually, I like it. You might want to use it as an alternate screen name. I remember when you began posting under The Nitely...

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The average citizen would be dumbfounded to learn how much money we make.

When a law enforcement deputy with just over three...

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Well, while there Joe had to write a paper. Problem is Joe did not write all of the paper himself. Seems Ms. Bowden did. You know the person that wrote grants for HCSO and was promoted soon after Joe...

You Sheriff haters just don't get it.

You don't understand Florida politics and the reality of the traditional autonomy of an elected official who holds an office that is specifically established...

Let me help you understand, paragraph by paragraph.

1. I have no hatred. I have disdain. He is beneath contempt! If you worked with me you WOULD do well to watch your back if you were planning...

The ignorance you display in your post makes us glad you are not one of us too, so we are all happy. :D

You are wrong if you think we, and I in particular, don't know the felon. I've worked...

NO......That is like asking do apartment complex courtesy officers pay income tax on their reduction in rent. It is not a monetary payment, rather a contract agreement between both parties.[/quote]
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1. I don't know who, or under what circumstances, someone spoke of the county's financial reserves as a rainy day fund. The fact is there are financial reserves and they are not necessarily being...

Joe, I really thought you had been here long enough to know about the "Rainy Day Fund."

Several years ago when the office converted to Cost Center Budgeting and each major command had to prepare...

Your comment is inappropriate.

Unlike many posts seen here authored by whiners and complainers, the original post on this thread was written by someone who gave reasoned arguments for his...

Your comment is inappropriate.

Unlike many posts seen here authored by whiners and complainers, the original post on this thread was written by someone who gave reasoned arguments for his...

And line item veto :shock: I won't even respond to you,,,better go back and re-take your government budget school :snicker:[/quote]


That's very wise.

Anyone who continues to bring up...

Interesting viewpoint. However, the fact is that from the beginning the Sheriff picked from his most senior and qualified choices. If he had reached lower on the seniority list to select his staff...

they pay by having their citizens pay taxes.[/quote]

Do you mean (gasp) that HCSO doesn't OWN the jail? :shock:

Next you'll say HCSO doesn't own the courts even though we provide the...

OK, let's take a deep breath and stand back and examine this decision.

With no more information than is in the original post I tend to agree with the decision. :shock:

Searching a vehicle...

Let me explain things to you. You've undoubtedly heard "Dog bites man is not news. Man bites dog is news."

It is actually a compliment to the law enforcement community that it isn't considered...

Actually, I read very well. Here is the direct quote from the original post: "Deputy James Flagg and his supervisor, Lt. Michael Farrier, have been suspended pending an administrative review,...

My thoughts are:

1. I agree with the fact that the criticism from the "Thanks a lot..." poster was a cheap shot. Name a jail or prison anywhere that has never had an escape. Even Alcatraz had a...

You going to tell Ron Harrisons Daughter that ? You are an A$$[/quote]

An appeal to emotion is not valid when the issue is physical ability, no matter whose daughter it is.

If a female (or...

Your writing style tells us that you made the post criticizing Average Joe's grammar and spelling.

You might make note that the proper usage in your post would be deputy's address (apostrophe, s...

The information has been posted on the LEO Only board.

If you are a LEO, go there, register and read it.

If not --- it's none of your business.

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Chip.

Done.

It took only a couple of minutes.

:D

First, the Blog was not trying to sway others to his position. He simply said his vote was determined by considerations important to him and urged others to vote based upon their own best interests....

Well, no..........

There are lots of employers who DO NOT OFFER

A retirement program
Health insurance
Life Insurance
Short Term Disability
Long Term Disability

No, as Average Joe pointed out, the 4% figure may include the Cafeteria Plan money. It is your opinion that it is a lie and you don't even know the basis for their assertion. Have you written a...

Here are some things that everyone needs to understand about a newspaper.

1. There are two separate operations going on: Reporting and Opinion.

The reporting is done throughout the paper and...

Joe,

While I credit you for trying to "think outside the box," this idea will never fly. This is not private industry; we are talking about tax dollars. How do you honestly think the public...

Thank you.

Ooops.

My mistake.

The thread with the same name as my thread is not in all caps.

Perhaps you could change the name of my thread to "See, I told you so!"


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Mod, this is to ask you to restore the thread that I started which is titled "I told you so." (Note - unlike a later thread with the same name, mine is not in all caps.)

My original post was (I...

BRAVO!

Now THAT is an example of negotiating!

The proposal would be able to obtain and sustain public support and at the same time we can be very sure that there WOULD BE budgeted payroll money...

By now most of you should have seen both the front page article about the Sheriff's Boot Camp on the front page of the Tampa Tribune, which had a very positive tone, AND the lead editorial on the...

You have answered my major concerns.

You indicate the funds raised will benefit the Jaguars.

You indicate Ron's family controls the bank account.

I still question the legality of the 50/50,...

To 1982 -

I have some questions about the planned fund raiser "to remember a hero" (Ron Harrison) at O'Brien's.

You mention Ron's support of the Temple Terrace Jaguars, which to me implies...

Crime statistics should be a tool to indicate how limited resources can be best used for maximum effectiveness.

Using them as a bludgeon to berate and intimidate our own people is inappropriate...