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Can anyone tell me what a DOC Secretary's reaction would be if he sent a team to do a surprise audit of a state institution, and that institution ignored the team by saying, "the entrance buzzer was...

I have nothing but best wishes for the new partnership between Tallahassee Community College and the Department. I hope it turns into a true success story.

I can see great benefits. CO trainees...

I'm not trying to flog a dead horse to death, but these things are tied together: A decrease in the number of officer positions; an increase in the number of offenders; violations and how they're...

I had a poster the other day get me angry and I cussed a crimson storm.

I want to formally apologize to my brethren. The language was far from necessary.

I allowed some anesthetized testicle...

You know I can take a lot of things.

I can take someone telling me I'm wrong.

I can take and apologize when I'm wrong.

I can even take all those jerks who post time and again about this...

I see Gallahad...

No, no of course not.

He can't be Gallahad.

Gallahad didn't lie, until he slept with Arthur's wife,

I see a person who can't answer any question posed, except to claim a...

How can I say this with class, as I would tell an offender who is full of shit?

Ah, hell. I suppose if I were couth, I would say it this way:

"Gee, you were convicted of two 2nd degree...

Sure thing sammy.

Better whistle a happy tune.

better dance with the chimney sweeps and wait for that spoon full of sugar.

LOL.

As my old drill told me:

Boy? Boy?

My name is sammy and I play with your mammy.

Used to have a basic training company.

Your drill sergeant was a puss.

Good night Mary.

The contract says I can accumulate 240 hours. the department is saying they can tell you to take all of your comp leave.

I have e-mailed not only the paper but, my legislator.

DOC may be...

C130 rolling down the strip,
Mary Poppins on a one way trip.
Stand up hook up shuffle to the door
Mary Poppins is a ****ing whore.

Or:

She was just a rookie trooper and she surely shook with...

C130 rolling down the strip,
Mary Poppins on a one way trip.
Stand up hook up shuffle to the door
Mary Poppins is a ****ing whore.

Or:

She was just a rookie trooper and she surely shook with...

Is there any CPO out there, any prior service guy out there except Mary Poppins, any LEO any guy who once has put his ass out there, any one, who believes this mother ****er?

And of course he has...

Yes, and it's all about where the money goes and who it goes to.

I love guys like you.

A guy in Iraq, Afganistan, Vietnam, Korea, World War II, World War I, the Spanish American War, not to mention all of the conflicts short of war in between- not to mention...

Ah, well.

Then your just as ignorant as the other guy who misses the whole point.

LOL.

You're just another needle **** who's trying to score points for an incumbant ass-wiper.

And if I swear?

It just proves another point you needle **** mother ****er. You have never...

Here's the bottm line guest. The union contract allows you to accumulate 240 hours of special comp.

Anything over and above that, DOC can tell you to use.

The 16 days was based on what the...

You must be the BMW guy. Shove it up your third point of contact and what I make, you have no ****ing clue. For all you know, I'm one of those Democrats who used to be a Regional Director and is now...

Take your Bring More Wad (money-BMW) shove it up your third point of contact and what I make, you have no ****ing clue. For all you know, I'm one of those Democrats who used to be a Regional...

Maybe guest.

But, as I said in the last post which GED grads might not be able to read, that question has yet to be answered.

Let's see what happens[/quote]

I'm going to guess stupid runs in...

Maybe guest.

But, as I said in the last post which GED grads might not be able to read, that question has yet to be answered.

Let's see what happens

I suppose this is a union rep, so I'll bring it along with the other string by posting the same comments below:

by CPT Aubrey on 06/29/11 20:59:20

You do not need the PBA to enforce what is...

You do not need the PBA to enforce what is currently in contract.

I agree. Screw PBA and Screw Teamsters.

That's not the issue here. We have a contract, it is spelled out and I don't need a...

Sure you are right and it is the wrong thread.

Not sure where you are comming from here but,

Speciaal comp is paid at time and a half.

Otherwise, there would be nothing special about it and it would be called comp time.

Provide it to me...

OK. I beleive you.

I did the calculations. If you are asking for more than 16 days leave, they can ask you to use special comp for anything over that 16 days.

Request it using people first or...

Not only do they use money from empty CPO and CO positions, and they use the difference between the trainee base rate of pay and the regular base rate of pay to finance their supposed reorganization...

I saw an e-mail this afternoon on the very same subject.

Once again, the personnel guys only give half the story.

Yes, DMS personnel rules allow the agency to order people to use special comp...

I'm making the assumption here that our decline in officer numbers, as well as support positions and managerial positions (which are unknown) have not been done over the years by accident. i may be...

I'm surprised (really) by the lack of response to the hard numbers.

Especially from CPO's who have lost 373 positions over a decade. If the average case load were 90, that means a decrease in the...

LOL.

Another historically bad decision by DOC that compounded the problem leading to this incident.

I suppose you're right though. Buss will stack, or community corrections will stack, the focus group...

How brotherly altruistic you are, treating officers as you do offenders in transition.
By the way, it's Aubrey.

If so, let them prove it.

I say, yeah, right and I have swamp land cheap.

So another one hundred positions?

Wonderful.

The position loss and how positions are funded got me thinking.

I may be wrong here, but I asked my legislator to respond anyway:

DOC is...

I told you I would get back to you as I got tired of not knowing. I requested though my legislator’s office the number of authorized officer positions by class from 2001-2011 after each governors...

No doubt about it. DOC is the proverbial Monday morning quaterback- when it comes to blaming officers.

It never has the balls or fortitude to make critical decisions and passes those decision...

I agree with the above poster.

But, when will we learn?

Our bond with CO's has done nothing so far except to cut CPO positions to save CO positions.

We are CPO's!

We are not LEO's or CO's...

A little too late.

Screw unions. All of them.

Is it a tax? Is it not a tax?

A side issue that means nothing.

Take a look a Florida Statutes and read what it says.

The entire history of that statute was one where teacher's went on...

You never know where federal civil suits go.

Here's a new one.

Instead of an inmate or probationer suing DOC for civil rights violations, it's a victim.

What irony.

Why was it the teacher's union filing suit with PBA as a strap hanger.

Given Florida statutes which make changes to the retirement system a union issue, they stand a good chance in court.

And...

Do what you have to do.

All those newly hired CO's?

Tough shit.

In the focus group I was in, there were two privateers introduced. A gentle acknowledgment followed.

Well, now I say, "**** em."

Why? Along with the last legislative period was a bill that...

I am so pissed at the obfuscation:

"While the behavior of Offender Jennifer Marino may have been described as bizarre by some witnesses, it was not manifestly indicative or articulable and...

You know guest, I suspect you are 100% correct. But, if I were Haynie's son I would get me a pro bono attorney, sue anyway and call Jenny Nimmer, Barbara Scala, the retired supervisor and anyone...

You know guest, I suspect you are 100% correct. But, if I were Haynie's son I would get me a pro bono attorney, sue anyway and call Jenny Nimmer, Barbara Scala, the retired supervisor and anyone...

Oh, I agree the PO's should have been cleared. The PO in fact requested a warrantless be done and was shot down by the chain of command. But, there are a few faux pas, like the numnuts who went...

I assume you mean me.

OK, I'm an asshole too and it takes one to recognize the obvious pucker.

But, what about it?

The PBA controlling the message? The TEAMSTERS controlling the message? ...

Good answers to a question I don't know the answer to.

If the current PBA contract remains valid even though the Scott camp refuse to go along, then it doesn't matter much who is in charge PBA or...

First of all drug testing of all state workers and welfare recipients may not be constitutional.

Second, it's a feel good solution to a non-problem.

Any one of us can tell them the problems...

I.m not sure, but I believe any vote for the TEAMSTERS is limited to CPO's. Someone tell me if I'm wrong.

What I do know is that there is no correlation between bumping and TEA's. Do you...

I.m not sure, but I believe any vote for the TEAMSTERS is limited to CPO's. Someone tell me if I'm wrong.

What I do know is that there is no correlation between bumping and TEA's. Do you...

My, oh my.

We are now doing exactly what the Scott crowd wants. One CPO against another. CO's against CPO's. Public against private.

CAD, you've got to be kidding me. Folks point the finger...

I'm sorry.

PBA over the years has done nothing for CPO's.

During the good years, from Lawton Chiles, through Jeb Bush to Charlie, we lost positions, authority and the ability to protect the...

Hey guest? I don't know. The way I read the contract, if there is a disagreement between the two parties, it takes both to decide to continue the old contract.

But, I am not a lawyer.

Here's...

You know it is confusing.

We don't know for example if it was 5,000 CC positions versus officer positions in 2001.

I'll tell you what.

Give me a little time. I'm going gback into each...

Ah. If decertification was discussed in the last CJSTC meeting, the next notes will reflect.

If you're interested, all you have to do is go to the FDLE web site, find CJSTC, and then you can...

:lol: He means state probation officers I believe.[/quote]

Yes that is right- state probation officers.

The rumor is that the head of FDLE has recommended the decertification of state...

You can go back into the archives and pull up the numbers.

I suppose you may be supervising the same number as in 2003.

The rest of state isn't.

The numbers were made pretty clear in a...

Jesus. With all due respect to DJJ and DCF, if you want to the lowest common denominator, go ahead and privatize.

Asked the question on the FDLE board.

I don't expect much, but we'll see what pops out.

Like I said in the aprentice post, it would not be a surprise. FDLE has long been angry at the amount of...

Just trying to track something down.

Is there any truth to the rumor that the head of FDLE has recommended the decertification of state CPO's?

It wouldn't suprise me in the least. FDLE has always had a woody against both CPO's and CO's as they run the trust fund. They don't like it when the majority of CJSTC trust fund money goes to FDOC....

Ah, balony.

Over the last ten years, we've lost 3,000 positions. All the while, the number of supervised offenders has gone from about 100,000 to about 150,000 or more depending on what files and...

Of course it's funny. I know it, Open Carry knows it and so does Carl Hiaasen.

Somebody once asked Hiaasen about Florida reality and his novels. He said something the the effect that reality...

A lot of what your saying is correct except I don't know if your agreeing that its the board members. Again the board members are such a small fraction when it gets down to lobbying. But if people...

I could see this comming.

First. Great post Open Carry.

Second- PBA and central office have been formenting the us (CPO's) against them (CO's) for years and years and years.

As long as you...

Exactly.

They won't privatize sex offenders.

They'll privatize regular probation first and attempt to get rid of any distinctions.

What's failed about the leadership is the obvious.

Why no one knew which institutions were going to be closed, Secretary Buss was telling folks like Fesano that Glades was on the hit list.

That...

I thinks it's worth a chuckle.

Parlez vous Francais Monsieur Scott?

Ah, well. Like I said. He hasn't answered one question.

Chief? You want a conversation?

Lay some facts out there and do just a little research.

If the onlything you do is go back fifteen...

Jesus. I have to give him credit.

The little turd won't go away.

Hasn't answered one question posed to him.

I suppose it's like the guy who used to post the laughing devils.

He either...

Darn Open Carry, making peace with some numbnuts.

I've had it. I'm not letting guys get away with it anymore and promise to call out guys like the above poster.

But, voting for Obama?

Oh,...

And I notice how the makority of legislation passed outside of apropriations (baggy pants, abortion, doctors can't talk about gun safety, the barking tree frog et al) was all from the folks of...

LOL. LOL. LOL

Now you sound like Bin Laden's son.

Oh, my.

Now playing the poltical correctness card.

Although I do feel for your family and your progeny.

And so's your momma.

Typical answer from a dumb mother ****er who not only doesn't know how the system runs or works, but from some guy who has a hard on for the PBA and who wants to suplant it...

Ah you F-N pip sqweek mother *&^%(.

Sit on your ass?

I've written more politicians, papers etc than any union, TEAMSTERS or PBA has thought of.

I've sounded the trumpet call when you union...

Ah shit for brains.

Why did I let this happen?

That tells me how much you know about this board and whose been posting on it.

The lives were lost dumbass, years ago when you did absolutely nothing.

If you want to have an F-N impact, quit giving us F-N platitudes and start asking the hard F-N questions.

Oh, Wah.

Where have you been?

And you want us to worry about the done deal?

It's a done deal dumbshit and you are just another wannabe union guy.

What a dummy. Talk about fyling to the moon.

We've been posting about the dangers of privatization for F-N years an I have some nubile, publess idiot telling me about it.

Where have you you...

The new proposal will have some feel goods. The rest will be hidden in some other obscure section of appropriations.

The state will continue to supervise the sex offender boogy men.

The use of...

Will skelator hire 1,500 officers at $100,000 plus a year and put them on his staff?

I don't suspect so.

That's reserved for guys who make a difference and who don't talk to the press.

Answer at least one of the questions numbnuts, or go away.

I've had about as much union talk as anyone person can stand.

Rules? We have plenty of F-N rules? And we have plenty of policies telling us which ones we need to ignore.

Want to raise the prison population? Enforce all the rules.

Want to decrease the...

Crapola.

It's been a rigged deck from the beginning. Why? Because we relied on unions who nestled their nose in the asses of guys like Cannon, Alexander, Heridopolous and Jeb Bush.

They never...

I am talking about the probation side. With a little reduced staffing and people needing to have a job they would have enough to initially privatize P&P in the 18 counties.[/quote]

My apologies. ...

I C-R-Y B-U-L-L-S-H-I-T.

Not sure who the poster above is. GEO Group has no where near the certified officers it takes to take over one institution whithout those already certified.

And in...

Not sure what you're talking about.

But, there is a bill in todays legislature that is active as far as I know cutting CO trainning from the 500 plus hours that now exists, to 250 hours.

Any...

Not sure what you're talking about.

But, there is a bill in todays legislature that is active as far as I know cutting CO train from the 500 plus hours that now exists, to 250 hours.

Any law...

No shit.

You are living in a ****ing pipe dream.

Yes, we need a professional forum.

And, this ain't it.

But, it's the only forum we have and why do we post on it?

In the hopes some non-leading...

Of course we can be privatized.

This was the first arrow in the quiver.

Need a four year degree to be privatized? Need a change in the law?

No sweat. $25,000 to Cannon, $50,000 to the...

And this is a surprise to who?

Certainly a no shitter given all that has been posted.

Where are all the Anti-Leo wannabes?

Where have they gone?

Gone the way of numnuts everyone.

Paraphrased: “Where Have All the Flowers Gone” Pete Seeger

It used to be the board was full of...

OPAGA in 2000?

In 19 years, OPAGA has written multiple reports on DOC and not once, not a single time have I ever heard where they came down and talked to officers. Not once.

I'm skeptical...

I hope so but, when I looked the bill was active.

Dead? Maybe this year, although the privatization verbage is alive and well in the House.With a Governor veto threat cause skelator didn't get...

We’re on the road again…

SB-124

“An act requiring the Department of Corrections to electronically monitor a person who is sentenced to probation or community control”

Actually it mandates...

Just out of curiosity, I started a search of the various house and senate bills.

Low and behold SB 2118 appears. It’s actually a Cyber Crimes Bill and tucked away is a mandate to limit the number...

I think this is funny.

We are cutting our own throats asking which portion of the organization should go under the knife first.

The truth is that although the prison side of the budget is a...

I agree.

But, what I will also say is that this is a long term effort. It did not happen over night.

Our own may have sold us down the river for promises of future advancement.

That's what...

Amen x 3.

They are an organization that relies on donations to survive.

Follow the money.

Amen.

Our divorce from DOC is long overdue.

I have no doubt JD was pushing probation privatization.

But, the push has been building for awhile:

Over 2,000 positions lost in ten years

An attempt last year to eliminate all of regular...

Yes there will be an IG report.[/quote]

I sincerly hope so.

According to Genesis, the world was built in seven days. In Desert Storm after the air campaign, we defeated the worlds third...

Amen. If it ain't wake up and smell the coffee time, then they've learned no lesson at all.

Then again, the same people Jenny Nimmer, Barbara the Case Note Scala, and all the dinks in Bureau...

JD Alexander-

That name will be forever linked to Blackwater and all the shenanigans.

He is no better than his predecessor Samson. One difference. While Samson's quid pro quo dealt with...

Hope you are right.

Not sure I would go that far, but I see why you do.

Back before industrialization, the same fight was being fought when the country shifted from trades and agriculture to factory work. Prior to...

Let me be clear, I have no objection to the idea of re-entry. We have been doing it before it had a name.[/quote]

Some people, mostly those in charge, just can't seem to take the blinders off.
...

Equally so guest. You hit the nail on the head:

How is the cost per inmate calculated?

Is is based on costs over time? Cost of the land? Cost of building? Cost of maintaining?

If a private...

PS.

Just read where the privatization language effecting probation has been cut.

Good.

We need to keep up the pressure. There is no rationale behind the privatization of prisons, at least...

Keep up the fight. Privatizing the prison of an entire region is equally ludicrous.

I wonder when the article posted by Christensen makes the rounds how many politicians will have the stomac for...

I have a feeling some prisons are doomed but at least they got scared about privatizing probation finally it appears. My guess is Haridopolis didnt want that used against him in the future.[/quote]
...

This post is near and dear to me.

I can answer your question. It's been a full 12 months:

There will be no IG report. The IG's office has used the excuse that the supervisor will not talk,...

I sent this article to my local paper, and will send it to my senate and house reps.

The same arguements the GOP uses against unions (and all know I am no big union fan)- dues are being used to...

CPSO North?

I had the same reaction. I didn't know how bad it was. I thought it was bad, but it's even worse than anyone can imagine.

When you read it, you start about by saying it's all...

PS

Open Carry?

CPSO North?

You to are the back bone of the damn board.

Read it.

I read it.

It takes awhile to digest.

I'm sure there's fluff, but all in all Dee C. Christensen has done us a service.

Read the damn article. Take what you believe and confront every single...

Didn't agee with your last one but, I do agree with this one.

You either stand now, or except a GEO Group pay check.

Move, don't move. It doesn't matter.

We are toast unless folks have the balls to stand up.

Rigth after a legitmiate question about bumping, some idiot started a new post on the same topic.

If you are afraid right now, don't be.

You have the ability to survibe what ever is comming. ...

Just as I figured. I guy whose has been assinged to monitor the board. May be he's a truck driver, or port worker, then again he may be the guy that put the hit on Hoffa- LOL.

Have not been a...

You're right.

But, then again you get the same shit from PBA

Here's a guy giving me TEAMSTER shizzat.

Come on TEAMSTER- where is you're public initiative to strike? Where is it? Without that ability, you and other unions are farting in the wind.

And...

Great question guest. And oh, by the way, I'm using my orginal just in the event some PBA or TEASMSTER ass hole starts again- just to see if they can read.

Will bumping happen? That's the...

Here's a guy giving me TEAMSTER shit.

Come on TEAMSTER- where is you're public initiative to strike? Where is it? Without that ability, you and other unions are farting in the wind.

And I...

I could give a crap about PBA. And further, I could give a crap about the TEAMSTERS. The day the TEAMSTERS start a drive to petition a change in the Forida constitution asking for the ability to...

Great!.

This is the kind of action independent of any union that will be the onlything that makes people stand up and take notice.

My hat is off to you.

Name me one stae that privatized 18 institutions and God knows how many probation offices and they did it in a year?

Just one.

Sure as hell a GEO group supporter.

Who by the way is under...

You dumb **&^.

They didn't do it in a year. Not on this scale.

Bull. To be neutral on privatization? Bull. You asking soon to be fired guys to train privateers. Lead that? I don't think so.

Ah crack smoker. They have to hire certified guys. they have to start that effort in advance. And if they are dumb enough not to plan some tyoe of transition, well then they are dumber than I...

Somewhere on this board, is the longest string ever run. I started it when 66 newbies were laid off to pay for a bloated re-entry organization. At the time and if I remember right, I warned...

Picked up this little gem from the Miami Herald Blog. The House proposes and the Senate disposes. Of course the Senate is proposing 18 prisons be privatized along with all the probation offices...

I read most of the post on this board.

What I've found is that the pro's and cons and the agendas on both sides are crap.

I agree with most of what Christensen has to say. I especially liked...

I'm starting to think Christensen may be right.

How pray tell, do you e-mail a "guest"?

And why wouldn't "guest" publish all known facts and the links to them?

Unless of course he/she relies...

Not bad. It sounds like you've been listening to more than one rendition of "South Pacific".

No vicodin. I have no prescription.

Whiskey? Last time I checked, Florida Statute didn't prohibit...

Sorry, I don't want this to get lost in all of the other garbage.

this is the most important.

And you are the sterotypical union thug all are using to destroy collective bargaining rights in this country.

What a great legacy.

It's the DC F-N web site dummy!

That doesn't prove shit.

Of course they will print and fanagle the numbers to whatever legislature sits in session.

Ask the right questions, do the right...

by CPT Aubrey on 03/14/11 21:06:00



Ah, fazugie. I've explained the anomoly. The statistics used all depend on what numbers Central Office wants to use.

There were about 2,450 officers in...

Ah, ****. I've explained the anomoly. The statistics used all depend on what numbers Central Office wants to use.

There were about 2,450 officers in 2000-2002? In 2004 there were 2,450...

There is no, "Old Timer" on this string.

Where is he?

Then print the entire qquestions asked, the entire response and give me something other than "guest".

Hell, I'll admit when I'm wrong.

Give me some proof.

"Guest" doesn't cut it.

And to...

Post your source. If it is a DC web, I've already explained above how they screw with the statitics.

Post a link, post anything. What you have is nothing. It wouldn't even pass a 3rd grade...

What is your source?

What was it in 2001?

OK Teamster.

Ask through FOIA, get the exact breakdown and post it.

Until then your a drug dealer moving in on a corner.

The number's aren't clear because CO has never been clear.

If they want to paint a certain picture to the leigislature, they don't include certain loss codes (past term, interstate or absconders...

I saw this guy's balls on display when I reviewed the video.

81, 82 or 85 if PBA had his cohones, we would not be where we are today.

Could the Teamsters do any better?

Hell, they can't even...

A serious post gone to shit.

In case you don't know, the LEO versus not LEO debate has been going on for at least 15 years.

And if you think we are confused, think about all those different...

Amen.

I wish I had your courage.

Paying something into the retirement system is a done deal. PBA knows this. Why for heavens sake, have they not illustrated the numbers is beyond me.

The average state employee makes in the low...

I am sorry to hear ths is still going on.

I am greatful that officers are still having the discussion.

Just a point of clarification: There is no written policy that prohibits chasing...

I love it.

On several levels.

There is absolutely no arguement. If Soctt knew or did not know, there is no one than can say his severance was not paid by money gained through fraud, Massive...

Chill and keep the passion. Make it cold.

It has nothing to do with private versus public.

The guys with the money in Florida have framed the agenda.

If a private guy in the private sector ...

What utter bullshit.

Here is what is wrong with the Social Security System:

Over the years since it was established, money has been taken from the system to pay for whatever, and in return they...

This is a good post.

Except you miss a few major points.

Of course headline news is based on what sells. This story sells on two points: A woman needlessly died and we ****ed up.

We can...

The string about not talking to reporters?

It made me sick.

So Ithought I'd once again push this in front.

You got to be kidding me....

When the chain of command doesn't work; when the IG system fails; I suppose what we're supposed to let folks keep getting killed and hope it doesn't invole one of our...

Bed Time.

Ms Haynie?

Please forgive the cowardice for not going public.

I have a family to protect and God forgive me, my family is more important than yours.

That is my sin and I have to...

True.

Ah, he is the hope for the prsion side of the house.

For probation? We take the left overs.

The question still applies.

North Star

You notice how no one has answered this man's questions?

This is critical.

The original qestion applies.

Who is sponsoring the bill and do they have any connection to Nimmer, Fasano, x-governor Martinez and his brother Alen?

Pretty simple question.

Thanks Northern Star.

I don't know why, but what you've said is important to me.

We've never met and although we have not always agreed, I have always respected what you have said.

I wish I...

LOL.

Ah, I'm mental?

I outlasted Groves the drunk, and maybe there will be justice later for Scala and Nimmer.

Ah, we will see the true strength of PBA this session.

The problem here is that almost all of the 3 billion shortfall is off the backs of public employees.

While the governor is under federal...

They are fighting the loss.

No one knows who is going to get the contract....

I love it when folks try to deflect Nimmer's conflict expecially when she tell us in a memo we have to be aware...

Who sponsored the bill?

is it anyone associated with Fasano, x governor Martinez or his brother Allen?

They of coure are all aligned with PROTECH who is aligned with Nimmer.

Just curious.

LOL.

Ms. Haynie's family is going to take that cricket and shove it right up your rear end.

Just like the guys who said in this string there wasn't any room here for a law suit.

LOL

Oh shoot Northstar. I get so tired explaining. Not your fault.

Yes, Mr. Douglas was aware the memo existed at least I think he was. It's mentioned in this string, I told him he needed to take a...

I don't have anything to do tonight so I'll respond to any comment, I'm as familiar with this incidnet as anyone. 10 or 11 is bed time.

Will anything happen? I don't know. But, I hope a law...

I can't let such an idiot reply go unchallenged. Last time I checked, you could not register under two user ID's.

If even so, it's an obvious attempt to diflect serious criticims from seeing...

I can't let such an idiot reply go unchallenged. Last time I checked, you could not register under two user ID's.

If even so, it's an obvious attempt to diflect serious criticims from seeing...

I gave it a few days before responding. Open Carry had the best response. In fact, he was right on.

It was and is a disturbingly, sad story. What is even more disheartening is a Central Office...

The fact that he came up through the ranks is NOT impressive.

The fact that he ame up though the ranks, became a Secreatry in Indiana them Florida? In twenty years?

That's impressive.

He...

Bullshit.

The department has always been far from a professional organization, rife with politcal conflict.

At it's heart, it has always been corrupt- from the 1800's on.

And the tendancy...

I walk along those lonely streets,
a badge, mileage and cell.

And at some point in my beat,
the phone shuts off....,
there's no one to call and tell

I'm all alone.

So we never walk alone,

You are 100% on target.

Until you realize that at some point, prison expansion must stop. At some point, prison expansion must contract.

Scott's real anseer is to do neither. His answer is to...

Why are you surprised? Why should this be of any more shock value than the 2,500 CPO position loss over the last ten years?

Why? Because it involves CO's who are the bread and butter of PBA.
...

Shoot and I thought I was fighting the good fight.

I’m tired. I am- bone weary.

We all agree government is bloated; we pay way too much in taxes. It doesn’t matter if you watch state...

LOL. that's certainly better than taking down Singletary's picture and replacing it with Moore's, then replacing it with Crosby's, then replcaing it with McDonough's then replacing it with Mcneil's...

Right on. And when Barry is heard/seen on video cam?

Let him prove it in court.

Too kind..., and mostly bullshit.

Over three times the legal limit. Show your badge to that and see who it...

Damn. I hope he's not done.

My first thought was, "all old guard". Hardly. Sapp was. Villacorta was, Wasi was, all Crosby holdovers then some. Never heard of Bryant. Atchinson was a relative...

Amen and I hope you're right.

But, over the years they have demonstrated an amazing capacity for self-preservation.

Bull. And once again no proof.

Pulled up the PC.

Not only was he driving a state car, the first thing he did was pull out his badge. The next thing he did? He said he was working for Rick Scott. The third thing he did? Tell...

Maybe we have the empty positions, maybe not. i don't know. That information has always been close hold as that's how they fund raises, overtime for CO's etc.

What I do know is same o, same o.
...

Ah, you got to love it. I can prove almost every post. Some would not be considered proof, but inference would sway most. I try to stick with what I know.

The above poster infers, offers...

PS.

That includes the likes of Barry Groves whose selective memory and testimony is heralded in the halls of Scott civil court.

If Scott doesn't do anything, if he gets rid of all the current...

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Ah, man. the longest string in the history of this board and we get revisionist history:

Prior to the session 2009-2010, the secretary decided to cut 66 line officers. He needed to pay...

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Ah, man. the longest string in the history of this board and we get revisionist history:

Prior to the session 2009-2010, the secretary decided to cut 66 line officers. He needed to pay...

You are so full of it. Grant was no more a back stabber of line officers than fly to the moon. He's the only guy I can remember who has gone out into the field and talked to line officers without...

We aren't getting that stuff because NO ONE has ever asked for it and given plausible reasons why we need it.

What has happened is that folks like Jenny Nimmer have dashboard dogged it their whole...