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Posts Related To Bob Sherin & Steve Esdale Death Questions
Good Leos,
I owe you all an apology for my post on censorship, because you've carried everything I've posted. Thank you all. I also said I wouldn't be posting here yet that declaration was made, given censorship. Permit me to retract that.
http://911Audio.us is well under way with new, clear, audio evidencing Murray Cohen's murder. The Lethal ****tail: Indocin, Percadan & Corazol is also now recorded in its full breadth. Medically, the ****tail is designed to suffocate (Murray died with a blue face). You'll read how the events surrounding Cohen's death unfolded from the trip to Bolivia in December, 2002 to Murray's death on Siesta Key on January 13, 2003.
The prize of prizes is posted with the story, "Poisoning Murray." And that is the official, Bolivian document evidencing Murray's marriage to Maria on February 7, 2003, about a month after he was murdered. The alleged marriage which wasn't, of course, was Amurrio's ground for inheriting Murray's million-dollar estate and allegedly stealing the rest.
All the so-called reviews, I contend, were cover-ups, because you will find http://911.us is irrebutable.
Bob Sherin
Miami, Florida
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Re: Murray Cohen's Marriage 1 Month after Death
Correction
http://www.911audio.us will get you to the site.
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Your posting on the perfect site. You and Esdale a couple nuts who fit in perfectly with the nuts , trolls and turds who are frwequent flyers here and on the Herald Trib forum. All for one and one for all.
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Your posting on the perfect site. You and Esdale a couple nuts who fit in perfectly with the nuts , trolls and turds who are frwequent flyers here and on the Herald Trib forum. All for one and one for all.
And you read and post your more than they do. What does that make you? :snicker:
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Your posting on the perfect site. You and Esdale a couple nuts who fit in perfectly with the nuts , trolls and turds who are frwequent flyers here and on the Herald Trib forum. All for one and one for all.
Is this you Bell? You were banging her and out with Bill and Gail. Did you help cover it up?? Its in your blood to do something like that. You are as shady as they come.
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Actually, word on the second floor is that Bell is up for promotion to major by Mr. Knight.
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Actually, word on the second floor is that Bell is up for promotion to major by Mr. Knight.
Actually it happened about 5 hours prior to you posted that, genius.
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Your posting on the perfect site. You and Esdale a couple nuts who fit in perfectly with the nuts , trolls and turds who are frwequent flyers here and on the Herald Trib forum. All for one and one for all.
And you read and post your more than they do. What does that make you? :snicker:
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Your posting on the perfect site. You and Esdale a couple nuts who fit in perfectly with the nuts , trolls and turds who are frwequent flyers here and on the Herald Trib forum. All for one and one for all.
And you read and post your more than they do. What does that make you? :snicker:
Leo is the perfect site for posting, because winds of change since our last exchange imbue current law enforcement with integrity. As is law enforcement's mission, Leo's here want to track down every true crime, especially homicide.
New technology has improved the 911 recording 100%, where, you, Ms. Amurrio, can be clearly heard after telling 911 that "He's totally gone," ordering Murray to "Give up." Even grand mothers and grand fathers can hear your repeated "Give up" order. Anyone interested in torpedoing this new evidence must, necessarily, be in the killer's corner, and we think with a degree of certainty, we know two possibilities for your identify: Either Bolivian female or closely connected SSO male whose name rhymes with tell.
Great defense: Call me names, use discrediting English but don't encourage anyone to read and listen to the overwhelming evidence now at http:911Audio.us .
Good Leo's, my site is laid out for brevity and speed of understanding the case. No long, extra information, just the material facts, although you can skip "Web Coverage," because it's old information that won't add much to your understanding today.
Within 30 minutes, clicking across my navigation bar (skip "Web Coverage," you'll know the case cold: Through WTVT and Geraldo, TV reports, a transcript-accompanied 911 recording, audio clips on page 2 of inculpating episodes and "Poisoning Murray," the story that started in La Paz in winter, 2002, where Murray was first poisoned to his final poisoning on January 13, 2003. It may be 11 years but we're coming down to the end game with 911 audio uncovered.
Bob Sherin
Miami, Florida
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Mistake again. Here's the right URL, good Leo's: http://911Audio.us .
My Site is complete but for one more page, which will include summaries of all the confirming reports that a murder went down, including the retired, homicide investigator, Gary Ferguson's Affidavit, the retired, high, FBI, official Casey's report, the renowned, audio expert, Paul Ginsberg, saying, "I hear a dead man talking," the Arlo West, expert, audio recording with simultaneous transcript, the two different timelines, an analysis of Amurrio's contradictory explanations--in her own words, reports from an eye and ear witness & Amurrio's probate, irregularities with the assistance of a coterie of probate judges in the Sarasota Civil Court.
Furthermore, I'll have a detailed account of SSO's odyssey to destroy the original 911 recording, sparked by Tammany Hoffman, then-Captain, now-Major and, unfortunately for the honest folks of Sarasota, soon to be Sheriff.
We actually gained access to the Dictaphone system for a 24 hour stretch with then- Captain Hoffman present, where the Dictaphone expert got as far as finding all calls before and after January 13, 2003 preserved but those on the day of the murder erased.
That was a weird night, because SSO had turned over a computer to us on the 2nd floor stripped of mouse and video display. Fortunately, we had a loyal supporter in Sarasota who retrieved hers. I bought a disk to store what we anticipated finding. It was time to roll; however, then-Captain Hoffman didn't have the pass word. After shuffling around, he brought the pass word custodian in, and we alas made it to the threshold of our project. Ensued a full 24 hours to discover SSO's Dictaphone, disk sabotage.
There's much more, as many of you know. I, for one, made an F.S. 119 request for the recording, went over to fetch it and was offered a cassette tape. How did it ever get from stellar digital to noisy cassette, the same cassette given initially to the FBI? Funny, because that's when the FBI heard "Give up" as "Mi Amor?" There isn't another institution or soul who ever heard it that way. But tampering with 911 audio creates a license for sloppy analysis. We'll explain that too. Protesting enough, we got a digital version filled with audio transients -- low thuds, which evidence tampering with the recording.
Judges and lawyers are officers of the court quite rightly. Audio experts should be the only opinions carrying probative value when 911 audio is used as evidence. What does the State Attorney, SSO or most anyone know about difficult audio unless they're in the business? Why weren't the experts' opinions, all of which coincided, considered by SSO in the homicide or in the probate?
The front page of my Site examines 911 audio, proposing a new, nationwide policy for the consideration of 911 evidence in Court. You will read that audio experts are indispensable to justice. Indeed, the Cohen case is a prime example of why we need such experts: To decipher low-level audio and to discover such sabotage as that committed by SSO in this case. (If anyone in this forum has doubt, my second page of audio clips will promptly erase it.)
My Site is eliciting surprising, international interest. If you haven't read "Poisoning Murray," please go to http://911Audio.us and click on the link.
Thank you,
Bob Sherin
Miami, Florida
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Good Leos,
Have been working nonstop to make http://911Audio.us conclusive as to the murder of Murray Cohen January 13, 2003 at 4919 Commonwealth on Siesta Key. The audio page has been rearranged in chronological order, showing that a "totally gone" Murray was conversing with Amurrio past 5 minutes into the 911 recording, suffocated seconds before fire rescue arrived.
The thuds gave spectral subtraction quite a problem in uncovering the essence, but I believe grandmothers and grandfathers, like me, can hear the murder go down. There's no question that SSO, with point man then-Captain Kurt Hoffman in control, sabotaged the 911 recording to protect Amurrio. Then, of course, he was promoted to Major. Only in Sarasota.
The poison page, if you haven't read it, will inform you of the lethal ****tail: Indocin, Percodan & the most deadly, Corazol, with Amurrio's first dosage in La Paz, Bolivia, then the coup de gras 3 weeks later in Sarasota, a period of maximum lethality for the rat poison.
Work on the new summary page is topping out the site. All that needs to be added are links we have to proof positive that protection by the thin blue line reached from SSO to FDLE to the governor's office. Overwhelming evidence exists for the prosecution of Maria Amurrio. Imagine how you'd feel, if it were your family? Given the corruption investigation, this surely rates as number 1, warranting its scrutiny.
Posts, such as mine with full identification, enable Amurrio, if innocent, to sue me for defamation. The absence of such a suit should prove to everyone that truth is not on Amurrio's side. Her nasty words to discredit the bona fide case and her warning that LEO's will protect law enforcement, even in cases of homicide, will prove to be wrong, as the winds of change have genuinely hit this board.
Thank you all for freedom of expression, because without it only corruption will survive.
Bob Sherin
Miami, Florida
(305) 767-1932
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Thanks so much for probing, because every investigation needs this.
Now to the Murray Cohen/Maria Amurrio marriage on Feb. 7, 2003: The "Formulario De Legalizaciones" number 63414 was granted by the "Corte Nacional Electoral Registro Civil Bolivia" on "07 de Febrero de 2003," which made the marriage an official, legally-binding marriage. Prior thereto, Maria had the traditional church ceremony, which doesn't constitute legal marriage in Bolivia.
You can find a copy of the actual certificate on http://911Audio.us on the page entitled "Poisoning Murray." You'll have to scroll down to the end of the page, but it's there for all to see.
3 weeks is more accurate than a month for purposes of the juxtaposition of Murray's death and phony marriage. You'd think, besides the will, this would be the first consideration for a probate judge in deciding Murray's estate. Not in Sarasota, unfortunately, where corruption festers in all its institutions with which I'm familiar. And by this, I'm not aiming at honest Leo's, whose job is essential, exacting its toll in stress. Nor other honest agencies and folks in Sarasota. Folks there -- not all, of course -- express a pervasive feeling of injustice.
Had the "Corte Nacional Electoral Registro Civil Bolivia" known Murray was dead, it never would have issued an official certificate of marriage. You'll read about the two-steps of marriage in Bolivia, culminating in legal marriage on my page "Poisoning Murray." It's a fascinating story.
I encourage everyone to fire away, because only through the refining fires can truth emerge.
Bob Sherin
Miami, Florida
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Your posting on the perfect site. You and Esdale a couple nuts who fit in perfectly with the nuts , trolls and turds who are frwequent flyers here and on the Herald Trib forum. All for one and one for all.
And you read and post your more than they do. What does that make you? :snicker:
The answer is: Authoritative facts. What good are they without publication, which gives us all the fountain of knowledge?
Ms. Amurrio, most Leo's here can see right through your posting duo with one of your paramours whose name rhymes with tell.
Please challenge me on factual grounds, as you once did in this very forum about different grades of poison. Then, you acted the part of a knowledgeable woman with important information to share.
Anyone wishing to read that long repartee between Amurrio and me can put Esdale in your Leo search and voila. We've identified Amurrio as the poster, because only she had correct, inside knowledge that Steve Esdale didn't possess at the time.
Bob Sherin
Miami, Florida
(305) 767-1932
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Mr. Bob Sherin,
Who are you in relation to Steve Esdale? And why are you posting on this particular case? This will probably be my first and last post on this thread because I don't want to get involved. However, I found this youtube video at your website and was just curious why you are getting involved in this case:
[youtube:2uzs89ow]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t0GmdWu0yIc&feature=youtube_gdata_player[/youtube:2uzs89ow]
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Chris Hallisey,
Can you please explain why you keep covering for JB. He did nothing to help you when you were getting canned. Why do you still protect him? When you were in the jail you were a man of honor and integrity. You know this investigation was screwed up from the beginning. Please come forward and tell the truth. When it eventually comes out, and it will, the SSO and JB will put all the blame on you so you might as well come clean now. When you go through 12 step addiction programs one of the steps is to make amends to the ones you have hurt. Make amends to Murray Cohen and his family. You will never be free of this. It will haunt your conscience forever!
I' cannot be 100% certain, but I believe Hallisey altered the time line by 20 minutes and tried to persuade witnesses to vouch for it. Someone at SSO did. Chris -- or anyone else, please address the two different time lines. I' surely want to be correct in everything posted. If not Leo's, weigh in. Let me have the truth.
How can a timeline fail the 911 call at 5:58 PM by 20 minutes? And does anyone know who erased the Dictaphone evidence? We know Major Hoffman collaborated, but I doubt he was the one who got in there and actually deleted all the 911 calls for that particular day.
If Murray Cohen's murder weren't so agonizing, pathos can be turned to bathos in the following scene with corroborating video at the bottom. You know, it's that duality of tragedy and comedy laid down in Ancient Greece, where a tragedy can be laughable.
Scene: Well after 5 minutes into the 911 call, Amurrio insisted "he's not breathing," "he's totally gone," her steadfast refrain.
Meanwhile, Murray, having requested an ambulance 20 minutes before Amurrio picked up the phone, was struggling to breath. At death's door, he was lapsing in and out of consciousness. We know this because we can hear him talking lightly in the recording.
We can hear Amurrio acknowledging him at least once with "Yes." This was after Murray can be heard saying: "You had said you were going to get me an ambulance. Is that what you were going to get me?"
Believing that she was a master of the mysterious rat poison, Corazol, Amurrio counted Murray out but destiny. surprisingly, intervened. Her tension in the recording is palpable. Fire rescue was about to arrive.
Tasked with doing mouth-to-mouth, she interrupted 911 before receiving her instructions. "Wait a minute." she said and dropped the phone.
At the bedroom, crime scene 17 feet away between a rock and a hard place, Amurrio, sounding frozen with fear, yelled at Murray twice: "Give up." And you can clearly hear this on my Audio page, evidenced also in the video below.
Sensitive ears can also hear air escaping Murray's lungs, like the sound of quickly collapsing bellow, as Amurrio stomped on his back, leaving marks. Murray would be found on his stomach.
It's all reported by an audio expert noted for his work on Wako. He's Paul Ginsberg and this is his take on the scene. His short video embedded below. You be the judge. Please tell me Leo's, how can such a crime be ignored -- 11 years and counting?
Bob Sherin, Miami, Florida (305) 767-1932
p.s. If you have trouble seeing, go to: http://youtu.be/VKkqT3qQLe8 .
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Originally Posted by Bob Sherin, Miami, FL, (305) 767-1932
Beautiful use of html. I can learn lots from you.
As to your question, I was raised to value social justice. Several years ago, I self-published a book called "Justice Disrobed," focusing on corruption in our Florida Courts (now out of print and no longer for sale).
Naturally, Steve's story and the Sarasota Circuit Court, Probate Division, drew my attention. I covered his story closely, attending court over there frequently until I got too disgusted to step another foot in the contaminated, Sarasota Courthouse.
Steve Esdale's probate was so obviously rigged that it was never any secret. I sure hope the corruption investigation probes the judiciary over there deeply. Again, I understand there are honorable folks in the judiciary too.
Ever since, I've followed the Murray Cohen murder, determined to get justice for the decedent and his family. I was raised as a Jew to never, ever turn away from anyone's injustice.
For a deeper read, please go to
http://SunshinePress.us .
Thanks for asking, not to speak of that huge picture.
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Mr. Bob Sherin,
Who are you in relation to Steve Esdale? And why are you posting on this particular case? This will probably be my first and last post on this thread because I don't want to get involved. However, I found this youtube video at
your website and was just curious why you are getting involved in this case:
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Bob Sherin, Miami, FL (305) 767-1932
Good Leo's,
The two timelines have been under investigation throughout the wee hours. Yes, it was Chris Hallesey who deliberately altered the time line to prop up Amurrio's defense, as reported in the video below.
Was it done under the direction of Amurrio's Paramour, Jeff Bell, whom we suspect still has custody of the pristine DVD from the sabotaged Dictaphone system? It strains credulity to think Major Hoffman would consider such an act, because of risk to career. And please note, while circumstantial evidence points to the above, I cannot be at all sure.
To be sure, however, Bell is different than Hoffman. Taking risks at SSO explains Bell's subsequent, mental breakdown. For good and valuable consideration, Bell appears to have been doing Amurrio's bidding from the start. His mens rea would explain out-of-control drinking.
At present we can't be sure, but based on subsequent conduct, we believe Jeff Bell is the one who scrubbed the Dictaphone disk clean that day, again for good and valuable consideration.
He may still have custody of the pristine DVD back-up and would do well to turn it over at once. There comes a time when the good and valuable consideration faces off with the risks of conspiracy, either before, during and/or after the fact.
If I'm off-base, please fire away! Am open to enlightenment, additions, corrections and deletions included. With my presence, I aim to be educated and to present material evidence you won't find anywhere else in the Murray Cohen murder.
Now SSO Leo's with integrity & others, here's the Hallesey altered timeline covered in the video below.
[youtube:12gwghnu]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kyyk-PIbu-o[/youtube:12gwghnu]]
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I could not delete this message, which was excess. Don't miss the above message, which is crucial.
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For the love of christ moderator can you not block Murray Cohen, Bob Sherin and their band of merry nutballs from coming on this site?
All of you go take your meds and find something else to focus your manic behavior on
It is all old news that everyone has heard over and over. Go Away.
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Bob Sherin, Miami, FL (305) 767-1932
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For the love of christ moderator can you not block Murray Cohen, Bob Sherin and their band of merry nutballs from coming on this site?
All of you go take your meds and find something else to focus your manic behavior on
It is all old news that everyone has heard over and over. Go Away.
Only you, Ms. Amurrio, think the Cohen murder is old news.
And at the end of this post, Audio Expert West's beautiful recording will be available to all Leo's, along with a transcript of what he hears going down at 4919 Commonwealth on the day of Murray's murder.
Remember, West is an expert on audio. He can hear sounds most of us can't. Lawyers are Officers of the Court; Audio Experts are Officers of Contaminated 911 Recordings, so maximum probative value should attach.
If you think, this recording & transcript are old news, you're not functioning with American values. No statute of limitation attaches to wrongful death in Florida's civil code nor to 1st degree murder in our criminal code. The issue is all about social justice, as American as apple pie.
Improvements in high-tech have at last unmasked the grisly crime & today's investigation of SSO has changed your surroundings. No longer are you the omnipotent wheeler & dealer, using your feminine wiles and connections to accumulate wealth. Corruption is coming to an end in Sarasota. Integrity is returning.
Please feel free to challenge me on the factual pattern that only you know best. I'm sincerely interested in learning promptly if I'm wrong and where I went wrong, so I can correct the record. I sincerely invite you to weigh in on the facts: Fire away.
If you find this nutty, you've got to be the one. Because only the guilty would have a vested interest in calling a most sane individual "nutty" while you continue to evade prosecution. It will come as surely as the sun rises over Siesta Key.
When you plead “For the love of christ [sic, should be capitalized, Christ] moderator [Give him respect with a capital, Moderator] can you not [Why the negative here?] block Murray Cohen [You're asking to block a dead man?], Bob Sherin and their band of nutballs [sic, "nut balls"] from coming on this site,” you're engaging in censorship. More, your chant is straight-on Marcarthyism, a failed-American approach that I'll explain.
Please refrain from directing your attack at poor, dead Murray, because he no longer can defend himself. As to some band of nut balls, I only see a band of one, which is no band by English definition. Pray tell: Who else are you seeing? Shades of paranoia?
Coming from Bolivia well after the reign of Joseph Raymond "Joe" McCarthy, you wouldn't know the term "Marcarthyism" unless it was explained.
McCarthy was the Republican U.S. Senator from the state of Wisconsin from 1947 until his death in 1957. Beginning in 1950, he made outlandish claims about large numbers of Communists inside the U.S. federal government. Indeed, he saw Commies everywhere.
His activity, hauling celebrities before Congress and brow-beating them relentlessly on TV, tarnished many of Hollywood's best who had no such leaning. Promoting himself, McCarthy's inability to substantiate his claims ultimately resulted in censure by the United States Senate.
Today Marcarthyism speaks to actions like yours: Reckless and unsubstantiated charges that are not grounded in evidence, also public attacks on the character of those holding opposing views.
Come on; this is the land of the free and home of the brave. Our soldiers aren't dying in the Middle East to support a supposition antithetical to our Constitution: First degree murder. They're supporting Leo's, dying to make our country safe. You're on the wrong side of this one, I'm afraid.
Here's an enlightening video, Amurrio's entire 911 call from audio expert, Arlo West, with a fascinating, real-time transcript. West put many hours into this: Don't miss it!
[youtube:3thmq34h]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=itcMHFyYei4[/youtube:3thmq34h]
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Bob Sherin, Miami, Florida, (305) 767-1932
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I agree MOD. Shut this down.
If she killed him, then why call 911 while he's still alive??? If the SSO had evidence, they would gladly arrest a suspect, not "cover it up.' Steve's crazy accusations have ruined his creditability.
Again, there is no evidence of a crime.
First note, I'm not Steve Esdale and write independently. Then ...
Not so fast! So you're ready to censor the facts to which you've been blind and deaf? That's real American genius. Before I get to your question, let me first address the direct evidence.
Yes, beau-coup evidence exists, and to satisfy your curiosity, I've already produced it in a video transcript, together with the actual call in the post just above. The 911 audio was intentionally contaminated by SSO.
To the poster whose last name rhymes with tell, the answer is rudimentary, nothing to shove under the rug: Because of the capricious influence of Corazol on his way out, Murray lapsed in and out of consciousness. His request for an ambulance had been made 20 minutes before Amurrio picked up the telephone.
Presuming to be an expert on Bolivian-produced Corazol, an illegal substance in the U.S., she gave the clock 20 minutes, looked in, saw Murray lying still with a blue face and assumed he was totally gone, as she continued to say.
However, destiny intervened. Murray rallied after the call was placed. Please follow Audio Expert West's transcript while you listen.
For more irrefutable evidence of 1st degree murder, please visit my site in progress at http://911Audio.us
When it comes to contaminated 911 recordings, Audio Experts are Officers of the Audio, just as Lawyers are Officers of the Court. The several. foremost experts who were privately engaged hear a murder going down.
Only those wanting to protect the perpetrator, the prejudiced and the naive untrained in audio have had their way thus far. The Audio Experts in the know have been shut out and disregarded.
We wouldn't think of disregarding Officers of the Court in legal matters, so why should we disregard Audio Experts in a case of 1st degree murder? Given all this direct and action evidence, plus a treasure-trove of circumstantial, this tragedy has become an SSO comedy. Social justice, though, is my goal.
Murray was heard by Audio Expert West talking throughout the 911 call till a second or two before fire rescue arrived. Amurrio had a very close call. Her voice, frozen in fear as the end approached, tells the story.
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Since the main opposition here discounts a murder on the basis of evidence, despite its over-abundance, I've spent the day producing a rare, if not one-of-a-kind, piece of work posted on any law enforcement site. This is likely a first, where a new technique has been applied to an intentionally corrupted 911 recording.
You're about to hear a piece of the sabotaged 911 recording that I've personally rescued from the graveyard of sound. I also believe this sets new standards in ferreting out information from dicey 911 recordings. Credit must be given to Audio Expert, Arlo West, whose version I worked from.
Please realize that besides being a writer, I'm an avid audio enthusiast, having spent hundreds of hours resurrecting clarity in the face of SSO's adept destruction. The pristine piece you're about to hear is real time proof that Maria Amurrio murdered Murray Cohen at 4919 Commonwealth, January 13, 2003.
Before reaching it, please understand the challenge. The phone was 17 feet away from the crime scene. SSO's sabotage was so extensive that only through the employed technique could this recording be recaptured in such clarity.
Permit me to explain the technique, spectral subtraction, then go to the audio. A piece of noise is grabbed either before or after the subject audio without disturbing it. Then through many iterations of trial and error, software subtracts the noise grabbed from the recording. With each iteration, the audio either becomes clearer or not. If not, that iteration is discarded. The result is a piece of audio that jumps out from the graveyard to be heard.
Wear quality headphones and concentrate. Please be candid with your views: Tell me what you think. Without any clues, listen for yourselves to state-of-the-art technology applied to the corrupted recording.
Ready, set, go to http://bobsherintalent.ihoststudio.c...dio/GiveUp.wav
Just received an opinion below from a sincere Leo who wasn't convinced, so I've embedded Arlo West's Youtube just below, where you can read his transcript as you listen. For serious crime fighters only, I suppose.
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Not convinced,
Sounds like background noise from the Comm center end of the phone call.
You'll have to do better to convince me.
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Good for you, coming in here with your opinion. All experts and many more hear Amurrio yelling at Murray: "Give Up." But not everyone is keen on low level audio. Arlo West, who produced the original recording you can find at my site http://911Audio.us, hears all kinds of things I don't. Please go further and read his transcript as you listen. But I just retrieved the West Youtube for you, so you don't have to search. After the West production, let me know: Still unconvinced? Here it is:
[youtube:28sydeaa]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=itcMHFyYei4[/youtube:28sydeaa]
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Not convinced,
Sounds like background noise from the Comm center end of the phone call.
You'll have to do better to convince me.
In another post in the wee hours, I thanked you for listening and weighing in with an opinion. To give this post context, let me repeat the referenced audio- link so readers are on the same page.
http://bobsherintalent.ihoststudio.c...dio/GiveUp.wav
Refreshed with good sleep, I've got to challenge you with questions. Would you be so kind as to answer them?
How can you impute Amurrio's explicit commands to Murray ("Give Up!") to Comm-center chatter when 911's own Ann Barrett in the call center is reacting, blow by blow, to what she's hearing? Barrett's urgings during Amurrio's absence, "Mam," give undeniable context to identities of the players.
When Amurrio returned, Barrett's question, "What were you doing?" is telling that she had heard something irregular. In Barrette's Deposition of March 26, 2008, she testified that she asked Amurrio what she was doing because she had heard Amurrio talking in the background. Please refer to the second page of the PDF, Page 13 of the Deposition, Lines 16-18.
http://cohenmurder.com/uploads/Anne_...Exerp_depo.pdf
Amurrio's answer: "We were just sleeping together" (Some hear "together" as "Siesta") shows the slayer's attempt to deflect attention from the crime scene.
So Guest, given 911 Barrett's unimpeachable testimony, your Baptism of the audio as cross-talk is Blasphemous. Like those of us with normal hearing, Barrette heard "Give Up" as loud as thunder coming from Amurrio's mouth. Now enlightened, are you sufficiently unbiased to come back and post further so I can answer all your questions? All the evidence is here.
This clip records the fact that before Barrett gets off her instructions on mouth-to-mouth, Amurrio interrupts, "One moment please," drops the phone and walks to the crime scene 17 feet away. From her earliest days in Bolivian law enforcement, Amurrio needed no instruction on these emergency measures. In fact, she had instructed all of Bolivia's women cadets in these measures while there. Her extensive career in law enforcement started in her teens.
No way Amurrio's commands to "Give Up" can be relegated to the call center. To most listeners, except the hard of hearing and prejudiced, Amurrio thunders through like a freight train coming down the tracks. True, the G in "Give Up" bites the dust slightly from intentional interference and distance.
This piece evidences Amurrio's closing scene, moments before fire-rescue arrived when the scene went black forever for Murray. Amurrio had succeeded but without enough time to hide her ****tail's vials of Corazol, Indocin and Percodan.
She claimed they were prescribed by Murray's doctor, but when questioned by the press (not SSO), Murray's New Jersey doctor denied that he had a hand in those prescriptions, adding, he had never heard of Corazol.
People with reasonable hearing can hear at least two additional episodes before "Give Up": Air being expelled from Murrays lungs like the sound of forced bellows. Murray was later found on his stomach, and with lividity, Amurrio's foot prints developed on Murray's back.
Consider: Where every second counts, why would an alleged Wife ask for a time-out at the moment her alleged Husband is in the throws of death? And why would Amurrio's hesitation take over 30 seconds? Point of interest: Remember they weren't legally married until 3 weeks after Murray's murder.
If authentic, Amurrio would have disclosed: "I'm trained in mouth to mouth. Let me do it now." Adversaries will argue, that's just what she was doing.
Not so, because If true, Murray would have been found on his back and Amurrio's footprints wouldn't be present there.
Any unbiased police agency intent on solving all 1st degree murders with savvy, audio people on staff would find this recording alone a case clincher. And that's what http://911Audio.us is all about: We need audio experts, not the hard of hearing or prejudiced, evaluating questionable 911 recordings.
You wouldn't put a clever forgery before the jury without presenting a hand writing expert. Same is true here. And all Audio Experts, bar none, hear a murder going down.
The moment unbiased Leo's seriously into audio post, I'll be pleased to post other clips that aren't as clear.
In one, a "totally gone" Murray, as Amurrio labels him time and again, says to Amurrio: "You said you were going to get me an ambulance [almost 17 minutes prior]. Is that what you were going to get me?" She says, "Yes."
Assuming you can't make out Murray's words, Amurrio's "Yes" has got to be an answer a question posed by Murray. She's not saying "yes' to herself.
Regarding sabotage of the 911 recording, here's the statement of retired SSO Homicide investigator and SSO's Dictaphone technician at the time explaining his 24 hour investigation on SSO's 2nd floor. There he discovered all records on the Dictaphone hard disk erased for January 13, 2003 but records on either side unaltered.
http://cohenmurder.com/uploads/Tidwe...eltion0001.pdf
In an upcoming thread, I'll present Bill Tidwell's sworn Affidavit in which he testifies that all of SSO's express justifications for the degraded 911-call are preposterous. It's a long Affidavit, where Tidwell debunks SSO's varying statements on the subject. The new thread will be called "SSO Intentionally Detroys 911 Hard-Disk Data Only on the Day of Murray's Murder."
To cut down on complexity, I'll present Tidwell's findings, together with a summary, and each subsequent facet posted will be indexed in a different thread with an overall index, giving all you Leo's easy access to any given information.
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Here are the postings designed to thwart justice of late:
oldtimer wrote:For the love of christ moderator can you not block Murray Cohen, Bob Sherin and their band of merry nutballs from coming on this site?
All of you go take your meds and find something else to focus your manic behavior on*
It is all old news that everyone has heard over and over. Go Away.
Guest wrote:I agree MOD. Shut this down.
If she killed him, then why call 911 while he's still alive??? If the SSO had evidence, they would gladly arrest a suspect, not "cover it up.' Steve's crazy accusations have ruined his creditability. Again, there is no evidence of a crime.
The allegation above was explained by Corazol's capricious effect on Murray, who fell out of consciousness, then rallied after Amurrio picked up the telephone. She gave Murray 17 minutes before calling, at which time she thought he was "totally gone," as she repeatedly said.
Not convinced posted,
Sounds like background noise from the Comm center end of the phone call.
You'll have to do better to convince me.
Not only have I done much better, I've proven that Ann Barrett, 911 operator, identified Amurrio as the one who said "Give Up." Here's that clip again.
http://bobsherintalent.ihoststudio.c...dio/GiveUp.wav
After spending an extraordinary amount of time documenting absolute proof of 1st Degree Murder, Not Convinced goes silent. You'll find the detracting posts without merit in a close thread here:
http://forums.leoaffairs.com/viewtop...56822&start=15
Please, fellow posters, let's not make this board frivolous, as Sheriff Knight characterized it. If you have an opposing view, please challenge me on the highest ground, as I'm ready to turn on a dime. And follow-through to a conclusion.
This is a quest for law enforcement, the purpose of this great, far-sighted LeoAffairs.com, which now astounds me with its integrity -- a far cry from 6 years ago. Thank you.
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I am trying to figure out who you are and why you are posting non sensical crap on here. I googled you and I found this.
http://members.shaw.ca/karolus/w4asx.htm
I am not sure why you are listing yourself as Leo Affairs Road Patrol. I think its an insult to real law enforcement officers to have you listed as "Road Patrol". Also, You are not even a lawyer by your own admission.
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I am trying to figure out who you are and why you are posting non sensical crap on here. I googled you and I found this.
http://members.shaw.ca/karolus/w4asx.htm
I am not sure why you are listing yourself as Leo Affairs Road Patrol. I think its an insult to real law enforcement officers to have you listed as "Road Patrol". Also, You are not even a lawyer by your own admission.
Thanks for the inquiry, but the term "Road Patrol" was assigned to me by Leo Affairs when I became a member.
To my knowledge, unless there's a default I must change, it came with my membership. So much for the presumed insult.
Why a conscientious Leo finds my treasure-trove of unimpeachable evidence to 1st Degree Murder "non sensical crap" is mystifying. Law enforcement, intrinsically, follows the trail of evidence. And that, gathered over a decade, is what I have.
You are correct when you post I'm neither law enforcement nor a lawyer. However, I'm a Senior Paralegal for a company here in Miami, Florida.
The rest of your question has already been asked and answered here:
http://forums.leoaffairs.com/viewtop...?f=84&t=156822
But to respond to you fully, even though I want my posts, organized and unrepetitive, here's the exchange:
Mr. Bob Sherin,
Who are you in relation to Steve Esdale? And why are you posting on this particular case? This will probably be my first and last post on this thread because I don't want to get involved. However, I found this youtube video at*your website*and was just curious why you are getting involved in this case:
Beautiful use of html. I can learn lots from you.*
As to your question, I was raised to value social justice. Several years ago, I self-published a book called "Justice Disrobed," focusing on corruption in our Florida Courts (now out of print and no longer for sale).*
Naturally, Steve's story and the Sarasota Circuit Court, Probate Division, drew my attention. I covered his story closely, attending court over there frequently until I got too disgusted to step another foot in the contaminated, Sarasota Courthouse.*
Steve Esdale's probate was so obviously rigged that it was never any secret. I sure hope the corruption investigation probes the judiciary over there deeply. Again, I understand there are honorable folks in the judiciary too.
Ever since, I've followed the Murray Cohen murder, determined to get justice for the decedent and his family. I was raised as a Jew to never, ever turn away from anyone's injustice.*
For a deeper read, please go to*http://SunshinePress.us.
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Did you ever consider that when she says "give up" as your expert claims is on the tape, she actually means "I give up," because she was not able move the victim while attempting CPR? I'm sorry, but I don't buy your story.
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I thought she was saying "get up" not give up.
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Did you ever consider that when she says "give up" as your expert claims is on the tape, she actually means "I give up," because she was not able move the victim while attempting CPR? I'm sorry, but I don't buy your story.
Everyone is entitled to an opinion, of course; however, please reconcile for me, a definite Amurrio statement at the crime scene. She had maintained throughout the 911 call that Murray "wasn't breathing,' "was totally gone," but toward the end she says "Yes." Who was she answering and what was he saying?
You need great ears to hear Murray say: "You had said you were going to get me an ambulance [17 minute before]. Is that what you were going to get me?"
"Yes," exclaimed Amurrio.
http://bobsherintalent.ihoststudio.c...ManTalking.wav
SSO did quite a job of burying that audio, but I've rescued it for keen listeners. However, those at the call center heard Murray's cry for an ambulance clearly. A second 911 operator who had plugged into the call, Lynn Billings (still employed by SSO) heard Murray calling for an ambulance. Here's her statement in audio:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aL3EMhcKdZk
Leo's, please realize that, with the FBI led into the cover-up by SSO at the time, this was a last ditch effort by Murray's Son to ferret out the truth. Please view it in the same light as you would, law enforcement seeking evidence over the telephone.
The FBI received from SSO the worst cassette recording that couldn't possibly be deciphered and never interviewed Amurrio. So much for the FBI investigation. At the time, they had been pulled into the thin blue line.
No longer. Because this is only one case in much-publicized SSO corruption, the FBI today is casting a wide net and quietly amassing evidence. My posts here are designed to become a part of that law enforcement effort, because, good Leo's, you'll find my evidence, total and unimpeachable.
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If you play the 911 tape backwards you can hear "Miami Boob Sherin give up". I think your Ham Operator friends have you pegged.
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Bob Sherin, Miami, Florida, (305) 767-1932
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Originally Posted by K1Man
If you play the 911 tape backwards you can hear "Miami Boob Sherin give up". I think your Ham Operator friends have you pegged.
To all Good Leos,
Busy with a passion for investigative, homicide journalism, together with my current profession in law, I haven't been on ham radio for several years.
With one of the best stations in the hobby back then, I was "a public figure" on 20 meter SSB. As such, I took my lumps, sure, overwhelmingly offset by maximum plaudits for societal interest and integrity. And I was widely published on the subject, including in the Miami Herald.
Let me add, if you hear, "Give up," as you write, you're disregarding a murder for a tasteless stab at humor. We're talking 1st degree murder, no joke at all.
So what is your point? Is defamation all you have to offer? Please meet the evidence, if you will, and I'll be pleased to share a productive exchange.
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Did you ever consider that when she says "give up" as your expert claims is on the tape, she actually means "I give up," because she was not able move the victim while attempting CPR? I'm sorry, but I don't buy your story.
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I thought she was saying "get up" not give up.
Your theory is contradicted by Amurrio's own words. When instructed to push him on the floor, she says: "I'll try," then, returning, she confirms she did it.
So, pray tell, where does "I give up," enter your picture, because, during the entire call, she never said to Barrett that she had given up on anything. As to CPR, why was he found on his stomach with footprints on his back? How do you account for that?
As for "Get Up," does it really make sense to you that she's telling someone she says is not breathing, not talking and totally gone to "Get Up."
She didn't acknowledge to 911 that she was saying anything, although two operators heard her voice and could make out what she was saying, which wasn't "Get Up."
More, the audio I've rescued thunders through so clearly with "Give Up" that no serious listener disputes it.
Good Leo's, I don't mind going back and forth, but why are law enforcement people here making inane and defamatory comments that do not fit the factual pattern? I'm here to discuss Murder One with involved, dedicated law enforcement -- not jerks.
Jerks only fulfill Sheriff Knight's express opinion about this Leo Board. Posters in this thread, please up the level to productivity in law enforcement.
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Most of the people who post here are not deputies.
It is a public board, so people like you post crap on here all the time.
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When you claim the SSO intentionally altered the tape and intentionally covered up a murder, your story loses creditability in my book.
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Guest » 02/09/14 17:48:08
When you claim the SSO intentionally altered the tape and intentionally covered up a murder, your story loses creditability in my book.
Good point. I don't want to turn anyone off by being over-broad. Thank you. I'll jump to it with your next post.
I think I know what you're getting at: Everyone in the organization cannot be included.
However, by broad brushing it, I mean to say those in control of facets of the case: Balkwell, his successor with inside knowldge and failing to act, Sheriff Knight, certainly Major Hoffman, who collaborated in the 911 cover-up, Detective Halisey, who altered the time line, and the one who gets all that good and valuable consideration whose name rhymes with tell.
Job security of the 911 operators was threatened if they spilled the beans. So, I understand under an unjust employment situation, what can LEO's with integrity do? Please, if you will, help me frame my issue better, as you understand to whom I'm referring.
I have the utmost respect for honorable, hard working Leo's who are thwarted from acting. This on top of a stressful job takes my hat off to you all.
So please assist me in addressing those responsible with a grouping name. What should it be? Thanking you for an insightful post and looking forward to your response.
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Good people, Now the board is lighting up with sense. This post particularly is insightful. I'm already awaiting a response on my last, because perhaps I'm being over-broad in referring to all of SSO. Maybe there's a better way.
As for the insight furnished below, Hoffman has no grounds for anger on the disk situation. I was actually there during that 14 hour stretch when Bill Tidwell found all the records on the day of the murder erased from the Dictaphone disk.
Hoffman started by presenting us with a 2nd floor room shorn of keyboard, screen and mouse. When we gathered the equipment from outside, he did not have the pass word, which meant he expected us to be stymied. So, he called in the pass word custodian from the next room and we proceeded.
Hoffman's involvement doesn't end there. In the face of a public records request by an Orlando newspaper and two court orders, Hoffman had the disk scrubbed clean and sent it packing. So I wonder, what is Kurt's beef.
To meet the man, one wouldn't get the impression to which I ultimately came. I found him brilliant, knowledgeable and likable, that is, until I saw his subsequent action.
Guest below, please consider the following Affidavit from SSO retired homicide investigator and Dictaphone tech. for SSO, who investigated the January 13, 2003 records on the disk. His Affidavit tells quite a story of falsehoods and fabrications to justify the degraded audio.
First, if you haven't heard it, let me give you what I rescued from the SSO audio graveyard:
http://bobsherintalent.ihoststudio.c...dio/GiveUp.wav
Now here's Gary's analysis of the 911 situation, where the hard evidence lies.
http://www.cohenmurder.com/uploads/T...idavit0001.pdf
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Most of the people who post here are not deputies.
It is a public board, so people like you post crap on here all the time.
I was present when the case went down. It was not assigned to me, but i was present (in the bay). While I completely disagree with Bob and Steve, I also think it is irresponsible to not reopen the case to have the body exhumed and examined for traces of the illegal drug. The worst that can happen is that no drug traces are found and the case goes no further. However, when the former medical examiner says the body should be exhumed (now that he knows about the illegal drug) -- and when we refuse to reopen it -- it looks suspicious. Why not dot every I and cross every T before calling it quits?
Answer : Because pride is involved and feathers were ruffled. Now its a grudge fest instead of a professional endeavor to follow every lead. We follow 10, 20 and 30 year old leads in other cases-- why not this one? Because some people are angry.
I was also present when Steve left all those nasty phone messages for Hallisey. Thats probably what started the grudge fest (tit for tat). Now everybody is involved and everybody has a grudge in the tit for tat fiasco, to include:
- Hoffman- angry about destruction allegation
- Burns- angry and disgusted about everything
- Knight- tasted the koolaide and is angry about inquiries from the governors office
- etc- pride instead of professionalism
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Bob Sherin, Miami, Florida, (305) 767-1932
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Originally Posted by K1Man
If you play the 911 tape backwards you can hear "Miami Boob Sherin give up". I think your Ham Operator friends have you pegged.
To all Good Leos,
Busy with a passion for investigative, homicide journalism, together with my current profession in law, I haven't been on ham radio for several years.
With one of the best stations in the hobby back then, I was "a public figure" on 20 meter SSB. As such, I took my lumps, sure, overwhelmingly offset by maximum plaudits for societal interest and integrity. And I was widely published on the subject, including in the Miami Herald.
Let me add, if you hear, "Give up," as you write, you're disregarding a murder for a tasteless stab at humor. We're talking 1st degree murder, no joke at all.
So what is your point? Is defamation all you have to offer? Please meet the evidence, if you will, and I'll be pleased to share a productive exchange.
Miami Boob Sherin,
There is no case. There is no conspiracy. The only person who needs to "Give Up" is Miami Boob Sherin. The only defamation is you being listed as Road Patrol on Leo Affairs when you are not in Law Enforcement or even affiliated to a Law Enforcement Agency. You even say that you are not a lawyer. I am not sure you can even consider yourself a glorified court reporter/legal secretary. Don't you have to take dictation somewhere else? Why don't you fire up the old ham radio and take your case up on the air?
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Bob Sherin, Miami, Florida, (305) 767-1932, BobSherin@Gmail
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by S-109 » 02/09/14 19:36:32
Miami Boob Sherin,
There is no case. There is no conspiracy. The only person who needs to "Give Up" is Miami Boob Sherin. The only defamation is you being listed as Road Patrol on Leo Affairs when you are not in Law Enforcement or even affiliated to a Law Enforcement Agency. You even say that you are not a lawyer. I am not sure you can even consider yourself a glorified court reporter/legal secretary. Don't you have to take dictation somewhere else? Why don't you fire up the old ham radio and take your case up on the air?
A bit of reading comprehension goes a long way. You've already read, I did not assign Road Patrol to myself; it came automatically with membership in Leo. If I knew how to change it, I would.
As to the rest of your nonsense, I'm the one who in 1976 singlehandedly pursued, tried and won the case against the then-custom software tax being collected by the Dept. of Revenue in the State of Florida.
Like proving how many angels can dance on the head of a pin, I proved custom software was intangible, falling outside the taxing law. After the trial and final order, I appeared before the Cabinet, where Governor Askew and his Cabinet treated me respectfully and made the tax exemption official in Florida. Today, it remains the status quo.
The State of Florida issued millions of dollars in refunds. This feat was accomplished in 1976 when I was relatively young. The case was widely covered by the press, including an article in the Miami Herald: "Taking on Government and Winning."
It would be the start of many causes and cases of first impression. Many lawyers never achieve such a result in a lifetime of practice. Take a look for yourself, but I'm afraid it may be over your head.
https://www.doah.state.fl.us/ROS/1976/76001475.PDF
Need I ballyhoo legal achievements further? I think not.
Although not licensed and working under a member of the Florida Bar, I nonetheless am valued as key in our law firm with the title of Senior Paralegal. But please, your continuing attempt at defamation is wasting time, because I've got a stellar record when it comes to social justice.
How's your reading comprehension? Bill Tidwell's statement, which was an Affidavit I'll soon present in that form.
http://cohenmurder.com/uploads/Tidwe...eltion0001.pdf
Then please meet me on factual grounds: The 911 Audio rescued presented here for all to see and hear, the sabotage of that audio, as described in detail by Bill Tidwell above, the finding of Corazol, Indocin and Percodan, which SSO first chalked up falsely to Murray's doctor, who said he did not write the prescriptions and had never heard of Corazol, the Marriage consummated 3 weeks after Murray's death, the million dollar estate awarded unjustly to Amurrio, the two different timelines, the false one developed by Detective Hallisey which was debunked by 2 witness and the official time of the 991 call: 5:58 PM. Hallisey had the time line starting 20 minutes early, urging a neighbor to shift her testimony back as to when she spotted Murray at his mailbox.
The resurrected data in the 911 call furnishes direct proof of Murder 1. Add other evidence like the lethal ****tail et al. and you've got more evidence than most prosecutors have in many successes. No conspiracy, huh? Try to absorb some integrity to view the undeniable evidence without bias.
You're wasting everyone's time. But the previous two posters made sense. I'd love to hear more enlightening detail from those two.
Do you understand spoken English? This is proof positive of Murder One, disregarded by the powers that be at SSO. This recording, which slices through your childish rhetoric, is unambiguous.
http://bobsherintalent.ihoststudio.c...dio/GiveUp.wav
Unless you step up to the factual, henceforth, you'll be writing away to yourself, because unless you turn on your intellect, I'm not going to respond to your non-nonsensical repetitions. Yours is the traditional tactic of trying to get a leg up through defamatory repetition, deflecting us from the material issues.
