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Well, it appears the “Rainbow” folks have invaded this site to defend one of their own.
How sad

[b]+1 Civilian[/b]

A-Men Civilian

To all LEOs

The level of unprofessionalism displayed by various posters from both sides of this issue is [b][u]shocking[/u][/b]. I understand that every profession has it's bad apples, but it seems to me that, at least in this county, we are saddled with higher concentration of childish, unfit LEOs.

As a civilian, I am shocked to read responses that clearly show that the writers have no clue about the higher standard they are supposed to REPRESENT and adhere too. They believe their egos have been somehow stepped on and nothing short of war will satisfy their craving for "winning the debate".

I have read numerous posts from LEOs that reaffirm to me that the vast majority of LEOs are professional. It seems like the quacks are more apt to write some drivel responses to feed their own trolls.

Confidence in the LEOs that are supposed to serve and protect you, is one of the most important parts of your job.

if I am ever pulled over, I will be ten times more concerned about wether or not I got the child-with-a-badge ego-cop or a professional one, versus what ever I did to get pulled over.

[b]More harm is done by the aftermath, driven by users on sites like this one, than the actions itself. You are feeding the media trolls that have nothing better to do than post crap that makes all LEOs look bad and erodes the confidence civilians have in you.[/b]

Both sides of this debate are LOSING. There is NO WINNER. You both come out looking unfit for duty.

As a civilian, I don't question a marked cruiser, speeding, not speeding, I move over. I don't care if you are late for your lunch, I really don't, if you need to get to point B quicker than I need too, then go for it, maybe you are responding to something, maybe you are not... if you crash, or get a ticket, just live with the consequences. That's what I am expected to do, why should you be any different?

[quote="Guest"]All bow down to No Cry Babies, obviously they know it all and have done it all.

Please tell me where on the video it shows Off Lopez going 120 MPH. It doesn't.

Please tell me where on the video it shows Off Lopez speed as being over 100 MPH. It doesn't.

Please tell me the statute number that says 120 in any speed zone is reckless. It doesn't.

Please tell me that the video DOES NOT show Watts losing sight of the Police Car that passed her for several minutes. It doesn't.

I could go on and on but I think I have proven my point. I really haven't read where anyone has condoned an officer driving 120 to an off duty job. What i have read is that, it hasn't been proven that it was Lopez who passed Watts, and Watts was wrong for how she handled things.[/quote]

Actually you have proven nothing but your ignorance.

Look at the video and listen. You can look at the video and visually estimate the speed if you know what you are doing. I tend to believe her, when you hear her say "you were doing over 120 MPH." Then listen to all of his piss poor excuses. He has even stated after this incident, "I didn't know she was trying to stop me" and "I didn't see her lights." Really? LOL! He is using the same lame excuses other violators always use. She is 100% more credible than he is (and you). Now for your other insignificant rant.

There is no Statute saying 120 MPH in any speed zone is reckless driving. However, since it is obvious you just got out of the academy; I'll help you out a little. Try looking up F.S. 316.192. It states:
(1) Any person (this includes Officer Lopez) who drives any vehicle (this includes a police car) in willful or wanton disregard for the safety of persons or property is guilty of reckless driving.

With the speeds he was driving and with the video. I could easily prove this in any court!

I see you want to try and use a lame defense of "she lost sight of the car." Too funny! I have had this tactic tried many a time and they have lost each and every time. So, turnabout is fair play. Show me on the video where she passes any other law enforcement vehicle of the same color. Also, you are basing that she lost site of the vehicle on the video. That shows again your ignorance. The video only shows things in 2 dimensions which are height and width. It does not show depth. Therefore, by looking just at the video, it is impossible to tell if she actually lost sight of the vehicle.

So again, you have proven nothing but how to give a lame and weak argument! So once again, you are a typical, unprofessional officer trying to make excuses for an officer when there isn't any excuse for his actions. I stand behind trooper watts and her actions. She utilized proper officer safety by drawing her weapon until the situation was properly assessed. If you say you wouldn't have drawn your weapon, then you need to retake officer safety and threat assessment. I would have arrested this knucklehead as well (which I have arrested other officers in the past).

So next post. Please actually post some facts instead of a bunch easily dismissed questions to try and make you look intelligent.

Oh! You may bow down to me anytime you wish. Try and do better next time!

All bow down to No Cry Babies, obviously they know it all and have done it all.

Please tell me where on the video it shows Off Lopez going 120 MPH. It doesn't.

Please tell me where on the video it shows Off Lopez speed as being over 100 MPH. It doesn't.

Please tell me the statute number that says 120 in any speed zone is reckless. It doesn't.

Please tell me that the video DOES NOT show Watts losing sight of the Police Car that passed her for several minutes. It doesn't.

I could go on and on but I think I have proven my point. I really haven't read where anyone has condoned an officer driving 120 to an off duty job. What i have read is that, it hasn't been proven that it was Lopez who passed Watts, and Watts was wrong for how she handled things.

Guest. Please feel free to repost and/or forward to the editor of the Herald. I am so tired of hearing such trash talk from unprofessional officers. They give the honest, hard working, and law abiding officers a bad name because of their actions and comments.

Cribabies
Man, are you on target, finally a voice and breath of fresh air, could not agree with you more. It is unbelievable to me that these people post these messages, they sound more like gang members than police. If they continus, wait, it's too late now, they have zero public support at a time when we never needed it more.
I suggest you send this to the editor of the Herald so citizens know most of us are intolerant of this mentality.
thank you

[quote="Tpr/C"]Don't blame the agency blame the person. If I showed up there I would have uncuffed him and told him to go on his way. If she wanted to make a complaint later on then that's on her.

She's a dil do and we all know it.[/quote]

Obviuosly, you do not realize that you do not have the authority to do that! Even if you were her supervisor, you cannot unarrest or tell her not to arrest someone. Even another officer.

It is called unethical conduct and many an officer in Florida have lost their law enforcement certification for such acts. I am sure you are aware of this and are just trying to sound ruff and tough on here.

[quote="greenwhite"]To my fellow MDPD officers, these troopers have gone far enough. First the b*tch draws her firearm at the officer, then she calls him a criminal. What the f*ck these troopers are thinking these days. How can one respect these motherf*ckers? After seeing on the news and reading in the paper, it is ridiculous to me that FHP troopers are now stopping marked units. Don't forget that they've stopping unmarked units, then want to give a BS lecture. These azzholes are worthless, they want to flex that they're bad azz state trooper. Payback is a b*tch and Tpr. Donna Watts is now under the microscope by all LEO's.[/quote]

I have been in law enforcement for 24 years. I cannot believe there are other officers defending the actions of this idiot Miami officer driving 120 MPH to an off duty detail. And then to top it off, you have other idiot officers making threats on-line to the trooper who was doing her job and trying to justify the Miami officers’ actions. Just goes to show that what I tell my recruits is true. There are officers in this profession that have absolutely no business being in our profession! If I were the Chief, that officer would have been fired on the spot!!!!

Greenwhite. If you are actually a law enforcement officer, I do believe you should go back through the basic recruit academy and maybe learn something this time! Also, you fall into that category of having no business being in our profession! I guess in your own little boxed in world, you have never heard of a squad car being stolen or a person wearing a police uniform, impersonating an officer. If you wouldn't have pulled your gun in this situation, you are a fool!

Let's see:
1. 120 MPH in any speed zone by Florida Statute constitutes Willful and Wanton Reckless Driving (A CRIMINAL OFFENSE). That is what I would have charged him with.
2. Failure to stop. He slowed down to around 75 MPH then sped back up to well over 100 MPH. I do believe by Florida Statute, meets the elements of FELONY fleeing and eluding. I would have charged him with that as well. In other words, I would have ended this idiot’s career right there.

I drive a green and white as well (greenwhite) and do my homework (as I would suggest you start doing). Look at the national standards and recommended polices set by the IACP (International Association of Chiefs of Police), the NSA (National Sheriff's Association), and the DOJ (The Department of Justice), about driving at such speeds, even when responding to a call, which this idiot wasn't.

Just because we wear uniforms and drive marked units does not mean we are above the law. To all the citizens and media that are following this blog. Please accept my sincere apologizes for those officers on here trying to justify the Miami officers’ actions and making such elementary and stupid comments. The vast majority of us in the law enforcement profession condemn the actions of the Miami officer and those defending him and making such unprofessional comments.

Don't blame the agency blame the person. If I showed up there I would have uncuffed him and told him to go on his way. If she wanted to make a complaint later on then that's on her.

She's a dil do and we all know it.

I'll remember this thread next time I'm cruising at 120mph and that;
1. I should recieve a misdemeanor
2. The responding office should call my boss
3. That apparently people who enforce the law are somehow above it

Way to go guys, really professional.

Miami 5-0 and its supporters sure are a one-string banjo. They keep forgetting the underlying cause of all of this. A Miami police officer was speeding in a ridiculous manner and was caught. How about let's worry about fixing up your department's conduct and worry about the issue of why this officer was speeding in the manner he was. Then, maybe something can be done to investigate Trooper Watts' operating procedures. Quit ignoring the main story and blaming her procedures for the whole mess.

[quote="Guest"]35 years and left in 12? Another wanna be (PERIOD)! You are a total moron. Go back to the hole you crawled out from.[/quote]

The LEO I quoted has 35 years... I had 12. Don't understand how that makes me a wanna be.

I could send a copy of my transcript from the accademy, my certificate from the state, or any number of training certifications I had, but I doubt you would have the capacity to understand them.

You are a shining example of what is wrong with LEO's today. Anyone who wants to hold you to a higher standard (or even the same standard) is a wanna be, an idiot, or just doesn't understand.

Going back to my hole.... it is much safer than dealing with entitled idiots like you.