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Re: Homicide by taser

Post by Revenge » 04/10/12 14:50:32

Guest wrote:he wouldn't have died if he was only tasered once, there's no reason to have tased multiple times. That's abusing his power and homicide. and I hope the Leo that did this is getting what he deserves

It sounds like you have an ax to grind with LEOs. Did you get fired or turned down? Or did you get a speeding ticket?

Re: Homicide by taser

Post by Guest » 04/10/12 13:37:24

he wouldn't have died if he was only tasered once, there's no reason to have tased multiple times. That's abusing his power and homicide. and I hope the Leo that did this is getting what he deserves

Re: Homicide by taser

Post by Guest » 03/30/12 16:36:48

Guest wrote:To the original "guest", I'm the one you called "numbnuts" among other things. You are one of the most ignorant posters I've seen on here in ages! You obviously can't read worth a shit!! I was using a personal experience as an example. To anyone with half a brain, that should have been clear. I know the guy died, you moron. The one I tased didn't, and he got the mental health help he needed. Jesus Christ, I haven't seen anyone as stupid as you on here in a long time! If you don't understand law enforcement, get off a law enforcement site!


Dude, you need a mental healthcheck.

Re: Homicide by taser

Post by Can't wait » 03/30/12 16:14:33

Ladies, ladies, please can't we end this with a taser duel?

Re: Homicide by taser

Post by guest1200 » 03/28/12 14:50:13

ignore and they will go away. not.

Re: Homicide by taser

Post by Guest » 03/20/12 11:54:19

To the rest of the real cops on here, this original "guest" is probably just some failed wannabe who couldn't cut it in our world. He's here just to start crap. It would be different if he knew what he was talking about, but it's obvious he doesn't. So why don't we just ignore him?

Re: Homicide by taser

Post by Guest » 03/20/12 11:47:01

To the original "guest", I'm the one you called "numbnuts" among other things. You are one of the most ignorant posters I've seen on here in ages! You obviously can't read worth a shit!! I was using a personal experience as an example. To anyone with half a brain, that should have been clear. I know the guy died, you moron. The one I tased didn't, and he got the mental health help he needed. Jesus Christ, I haven't seen anyone as stupid as you on here in a long time! If you don't understand law enforcement, get off a law enforcement site!

Re: Homicide by taser

Post by Guest » 03/20/12 09:19:21

Now statements like that just reflect how immature you are. Are you gonna go tell mommie I was bad and wouldn't let you win the argument? This site is here for everyone to voice an opinion, not just yours. You don't have to like it, just like I don't like yours. But hey, that's life and you better get used to it. Just because you wear a pickle suit, doesn't mean you have final say. I bet you are one those little punks who thinks because you wear a uniform you can walk all over everyone and you arrest people with your creative writing 101 and your cases get thrown out. In the end, the sao keeps track of your sorry cases and pretty soon your word isn't worth diddly squat. You will not last long. And notice, I can write this and not use a foul mouth like some little gangster. I am here to stay, nothing you can do about it, and if I want to contact the Ledger or national news, thats my prerogative. Grow up. :roll:

Re: Homicide by taser

Post by Go Away » 03/20/12 00:59:19

To the original "Guest":

GO AWAY! you're obviously just some pissed off weiny tool, who cant do this job, and you want to come on here and attempt to stir up REAL COPS. the ledger, as well as 100% of other forms of media outlets, always want to put their ignorant spin on things like this because it keeps little morons like you buying their products.

If you want to join "a cause", start protesting the incident and see what it will solve. cause at the end of the day, nobody of importance will give a dam what your uneducated, pathetic little self thinks.

you better get going, your shift at Denny's is about to start.

Re: Homicide by taser

Post by vizator » 03/19/12 20:53:26

Guest wrote:Vizator, that has to be the most ignorant post yet, "they don't know what they are doing and neither do we". You hit that on the nail head. But you should know what your doing especially if you have a taser and a gun. And they don't have their medical condition stamped on their forehead, correct again. But the actions, as noted by the officers, were not of a typical angered person. And didn't you guys just recently have to sit thru a class regarding handling of subjects with mental issues? Or were you on vacation, again. P.S. Did you enjoy your weekend off. I do hope your not using the agency computer to write all this hogwash on company time.



The comment was to infer that we do not know what the subject is doing not that we do not know what we are doing. Again, if you had common sense and were not just trying to cause problems for law enforcement you would understand that.

Re: Homicide by taser

Post by Guest » 03/19/12 20:48:29

Guest wrote:I know what vizator was trying to say, because I'm smart enough to understand what was written right in front of me. The article didn't say anything about the guy being handcuffed. He was resisting arrest. Handcuffed subjects don't get tazed. If you were a cop, you'd know that. You would also know that tazers don't kill. Excited delirium kills, extreme overweight along with an enlarged heart kills, these conditions coupled with fighting with four cops kills. A 31 second deployment, even with several shorter bursts, is not enough to kill anyone. I have personally tazed an individual as many as 9 times, and it still took 3 cops and 5 FD and EMS members to wrestle him into submission. No, I don't recommend doing it that many times, but sometimes you have no choice. If I hadn't had a taser, I would have had to shoot that subject. As it is, he suffered no ill effects from the tasing, and got the mental health help he needed. When you have had to shoot someone, you have a much deeper appreciation for a taser.

And I didn't call you argumentative. Vizator did. I said you were ignorant, which you are. You know only what you read in the media, which is nothing.


YOU NUMBNUTS, THE ONE YOUR REFERRING TO DIED, HE STOPPED BREATHING BEFORE EMS GOT THERE, CANT YOU READ, HE DOESNT NEED MENTAL HELP ANYMORE.

You need to go back and re read again you moron, YOU apparently can't comprehend, and my complaint today is regarding AN ENTIRELY DIFFERENT SUBJECT in todays paper on a ventilator expected to die from being tased multiple times "while haphazardly handcuffed with one hand tangled behind his head". So say again, handcuffed subjects dont get tased, really?? He was headbutting and fighting with his elbows, if officers can't dodge those motions, you have serious issues. Obviously your trying so hard to be a jerk, you don't even know what your talking about. Go back and read first, wipe behind your ears and try again.

Re: Homicide by taser

Post by Guest » 03/19/12 18:42:11

I know what vizator was trying to say, because I'm smart enough to understand what was written right in front of me. The article didn't say anything about the guy being handcuffed. He was resisting arrest. Handcuffed subjects don't get tazed. If you were a cop, you'd know that. You would also know that tazers don't kill. Excited delirium kills, extreme overweight along with an enlarged heart kills, these conditions coupled with fighting with four cops kills. A 31 second deployment, even with several shorter bursts, is not enough to kill anyone. I have personally tazed an individual as many as 9 times, and it still took 3 cops and 5 FD and EMS members to wrestle him into submission. No, I don't recommend doing it that many times, but sometimes you have no choice. If I hadn't had a taser, I would have had to shoot that subject. As it is, he suffered no ill effects from the tasing, and got the mental health help he needed. When you have had to shoot someone, you have a much deeper appreciation for a taser.

And I didn't call you argumentative. Vizator did. I said you were ignorant, which you are. You know only what you read in the media, which is nothing.

Re: Homicide by taser

Post by Guest » 03/19/12 11:59:03

Guest wrote:"Guest" your post was ignorant. What vizator was trying to say was that we don't know what the mental condition is, or what it's causing you (him) to do. Only an idiot would interpret his post the way you did. The actions of this unfortunate individual indicated someone on drugs. The officers probably thought that was the problem, and they may have been correct. If he wasn't then there was something very wrong with him, and he posed a threat to the people around him. They did what they have been trained to do. With 87000 safe deployments, the taser is an excellent tool. It doesn't cause deaths. If it did, it would no longer be marketed. The deaths have been the result of other contributors, like drugs, unknown health issues. Don't resist, and there's no risk. It would be a real shame for law enforcement to lose this outstanding tool because of misrepresented information. Take the taser away, and watch the number of injuries and death climb.


And how would you know what the heck Vizator was trying to say, unless you are Vizator, hehehehe :snicker: And you were not at the scene so how do you know what it indicated. I guy was flipping handcuffed and these officers felt the need to tase him multiple times. What, he is supposed to just stand there while you shock his butt 3-4 times and not try to get you to stop. Your an idiot. Any person will attempt to get away from someone who is causing them severe pain, mental or not. My opinion differs from yours, so that makes me an arguer? Your opinion isn't set in stone and the final almighty. That repeated number hits without death came out of a ledger article. And one person losing a family member to its use is too many. It is not an acceptable casualty under any means. How 'bout we tase your butt multiple times and see how you react.

Re: Homicide by taser

Post by Guest » 03/19/12 10:47:15

"Guest" your post was ignorant. What vizator was trying to say was that we don't know what the mental condition is, or what it's causing you (him) to do. Only an idiot would interpret his post the way you did. The actions of this unfortunate individual indicated someone on drugs. The officers probably thought that was the problem, and they may have been correct. If he wasn't then there was something very wrong with him, and he posed a threat to the people around him. They did what they have been trained to do. With 87000 safe deployments, the taser is an excellent tool. It doesn't cause deaths. If it did, it would no longer be marketed. The deaths have been the result of other contributors, like drugs, unknown health issues. Don't resist, and there's no risk. It would be a real shame for law enforcement to lose this outstanding tool because of misrepresented information. Take the taser away, and watch the number of injuries and death climb.

Re: Homicide by taser

Post by vizator » 03/19/12 10:36:09

Guest wrote:Vizator, that has to be the most ignorant post yet, "they don't know what they are doing and neither do we". You hit that on the nail head. But you should know what your doing especially if you have a taser and a gun. And they don't have their medical condition stamped on their forehead, correct again. But the actions, as noted by the officers, were not of a typical angered person. And didn't you guys just recently have to sit thru a class regarding handling of subjects with mental issues? Or were you on vacation, again. P.S. Did you enjoy your weekend off. I do hope your not using the agency computer to write all this hogwash on company time.



Why does everything have to be an arguement with you? Is everyone elses thoughts or perspective wrong if it does not allign with yours?

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