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by **the other guy** » 05/25/12 08:18:22

MEET THE CANDIDATES: Sat May 26th 12:pm----5:pm McGuire Park Port Charlotte,
FREE food and drinks. Ask questions, speak you peace, and HAVE FUN.

POPE FOR SHERIFF

by **Stealth™** » 05/24/12 21:37:46

tomuchcrap wrote:Your both full of it.

Is this the response we can expect from your kind. You wonder why your kind get attacked.

by **tomuchcrap** » 05/24/12 09:10:00

Your both full of it. :snicker:

by **Guest** » 05/24/12 05:22:37

I made no such assumptions, or even made any statements that should have lead you to believe I thought you had a stake in the current race. Your statement therefore is very telling of your motivations. I also find your comment that you sometimes strive to be evil, if true, very disturbing. I seriously doubt you’ve ever been to one of my sessions. I would have encouraged you to continue until you could have worked out the feelings that you needed to be evil. I currently live and have a practice in Jacksonville, so seeing you would probably not be practical. I do encourage you to seek help locally before you do something that may harm somebody. My hope is though that you’re just trying to be funny. Enjoying the anonymity the internet gives for entertainment.
Do you really know all the candidates you does your experience lead you to believe that you know them? Your comments that you have spent most of your adult life dealing with LE especially the reference to corrupt small town PD and Sheriffs would suggest that you are making an assumption based on personal bias rather that actually knowledge of the candidates.

by **songbird** » 05/23/12 23:29:57

Guest wrote:
songbird wrote:Very good, but I take issue with your term "irrational". Us rational people simply call it "thinking outside the LE box".

I apologize if you took issue with that term. I have a clinical background and it’s a term commonly used. It’s well known and proven that stress alters a person’s perceptions and decision making. I could load you down with case studies and examples that would take you now until eternity to read. Common sense also unfortunately goes out the window. Common sense is also another interesting concept. What is common sense for one person is not common sense for another. Much of what we consider common sense or “gut feeling” is actually based on personal experience. That is why it can differ from one person to the next. I can’t tell you how often this comes up in counseling sessions. Truth is a concept that is driven by personal perceptions based on often partial information and personal experiences. More times than not I’ve seen couples nearly self-destruct because of what the other perceived to be true. Often they have jumped to conclusions based on little evidence. In the areas they lack evidence they fill with personal feelings based on past experiences. I’m starting to ramble now. To put it simply what we as individuals perceive to be truth is not always true for some one else. In other words keep an open mind. Nearly everyone I’ve ever met has never thought of themselves as a bad person. Few ever strive to be evil. All the candidates currently engaged in the race are doing I’m sure for reasons they believe to be righteous. All four candidates have a track record of commitment and service to this community. The question is do they have the ability and knowledge.

No apology necessary, but I believe you've misdiagnosed me by using your "gut feeling" to assume that I have some stake in all this. I believe all four candidates are qualified to run an SO. The problem is I know them all, and what kind of people they are. I spent most of my adult life dealing with LE from DOJ, US Treasury to corrupt small town PDs, and SOs. My grandfather was a cop, and a decorated war hero, he taught me to always do right, and fight wrongs as he did freeing the prisoners from the death camps of germany. I sometimes strive to be evil because gramps also taught me you fight fire with fire. I do this for sport.
PS: I've been to one of your sessions, next time take a moment to ask your patients what their "gut feelings" are about you. :wink:

MY VOTE'S FOR POPE

by **Guest** » 05/23/12 22:32:32

songbird wrote:Very good, but I take issue with your term "irrational". Us rational people simply call it "thinking outside the LE box".

I apologize if you took issue with that term. I have a clinical background and it’s a term commonly used. It’s well known and proven that stress alters a person’s perceptions and decision making. I could load you down with case studies and examples that would take you now until eternity to read. Common sense also unfortunately goes out the window. Common sense is also another interesting concept. What is common sense for one person is not common sense for another. Much of what we consider common sense or “gut feeling” is actually based on personal experience. That is why it can differ from one person to the next. I can’t tell you how often this comes up in counseling sessions. Truth is a concept that is driven by personal perceptions based on often partial information and personal experiences. More times than not I’ve seen couples nearly self-destruct because of what the other perceived to be true. Often they have jumped to conclusions based on little evidence. In the areas they lack evidence they fill with personal feelings based on past experiences. I’m starting to ramble now. To put it simply what we as individuals perceive to be truth is not always true for some one else. In other words keep an open mind. Nearly everyone I’ve ever met has never thought of themselves as a bad person. Few ever strive to be evil. All the candidates currently engaged in the race are doing I’m sure for reasons they believe to be righteous. All four candidates have a track record of commitment and service to this community. The question is do they have the ability and knowledge.

by **Jim Melo** » 05/23/12 21:08:04

You can not be the same guest that argued with Stealth, you are much smarter than that. Nice post but there is a lot more to it than what you have presented. This campaign unlike the two politicians that you mentioned has reached out to the people for an understanding of their particular needs. This type of information does not appear overnight or in a poll. This is what lacks in the political arena. Common sense goes a lot further than education. I know that you heard that before but there is a difference in saying it and practicing it. If the concept is not understood you cannot fake it. Genuine honesty always shows through and moves to the forefront. I do however appreciate your post and your ability to say something intellegent. This is a breath of fresh air compared to the aggresive attacks that normally come.

As always my name

Jim

by **songbird** » 05/23/12 20:54:26

Very good, but I take issue with your term "irrational". Us rational people simply call it "thinking outside the LE box".

by **Guest** » 05/23/12 19:09:18

Guest wrote:EP is strong in community involvement and weak in experience and education, so they decided to focus on this. Community involvement is very important with a lot of people. In combination with hyping his community involvement they also demonize the experienced candidates by saying that experience has corrupted them and has caused them to loose focus on what's important. It's a sound stratagy and has a proven track record of getting candidates into office. Some of the most recent and famous are Obama and Rubio. Their performance once getting into office however is questionable. It really depends on who they decide to surround themselves with as the decision makers.

I just wanted clarify that I don’t endorse any candidate. This was just an analysis of the EP campaign strategy. The other candidates are using a traditional strategy of promoting their experience and education. This strategy has had a good track record in good times but falters during times of distress such as is being experienced in the current economy. When people are frustrated they do not think rationally and tend to look to place blame for their problems on an identifiable entity. If all candidates were running a traditional campaign EP would lose soundly. The EP campaign however has chosen this non-traditional strategy which gives those frustrated something to focus their anger on. Success depends on voter turnout and the number of those frustrated with the CCSO and those that are content with its performance. I would have to guess that the EP campaign did some polling and are confident that they have the numbers. Time will tell which strategy pays off for them.
Do not take the things posted on this site in regards to the campaign seriously. This is politics not real life.

by **Guest** » 05/23/12 18:38:17

EP is strong in community involvement and weak in experience and education, so they decided to focus on this. Community involvement is very important with a lot of people. In combination with hyping his community involvement they also demonize the experienced candidates by saying that experience has corrupted them and has caused them to loose focus on what's important. It's a sound stratagy and has a proven track record of getting candidates into office. Some of the most recent and famous are Obama and Rubio. Their performance once getting into office however is questionable. It really depends on who they decide to surround themselves with as the decision makers.

by **Guest** » 05/23/12 14:46:58

The Turnkey wrote:Since Stealth is unable to engage in a civil fasion I'll step forward, be the bigger man, and post his boy's info. It's not as extensive as the others, but you have to take into consideration he hasn’t been at it as long.

In 2003, Ed joined the Florida Highway Patrol, graduated from the FHP Academy and was awarded the Presidential and Top Physical Fitness Award. Ed was stationed in Troop F, which covers Venice and Charlotte County. During his career he has obtained a number of certifications and has been involved in various administrative responsibilities which include his involvement as Statewide Law Enforcement Training Instructor, Member of the Florida High Patrol’s Counter Terrorist Team, Member of the FHP Strategic Planning Committee, Statewide Firearms Instructor, and a member of the FHP Southern Regional SWAT Team to name a few.
In the 8 years spent patrolling our community, Ed left the FHP as one of the most decorated Troopers in the history of the agency to run for Charlotte County Sheriff. He has spent his entire residency working and volunteering in Charlotte County.
LAW ENFORCEMENT HIGHLIGHTS &
AWARDS
- Southern Regional International Trooper of the Year (One of two Troopers in Florida’s history to receive this award)
- Three-time Charlotte County VFW Trooper of the Year
- Florida Highway Patrol statewide Trooper of the Year
- Statewide Trooper of the Month 5 times and unprecedented 3 times in one year.
- Two-time Troop F Trooper of the Year
- Attorney General Award for Outstanding Service
- Tampa Bay Rays Officer of the Year
- Florida Department of Health Caring Hands Award
- Apprehended the murderer of Denise Amber Lee
- Florida Highway Patrol Outstanding Service Award
- Awarded an American Flag which had been flown in front of the capital in Washington DC on behalf of his International Award presented by Wilson Livingood Sergeant at Arms, U.S. House of Representatives.
- Awarded Certificate of Dedication to Charlotte County.
- Represented Charlotte County and the Florida Highway Patrol at the 2009 Presidential Inauguration.
- Awarded for Saving lives and Changing lives of Teens in Charlotte County by Hands Across the World Inc.
- Florida Retail Federation Award
- State Officer of the Year Award
- Ed Pope is in the Florida Highway Patrol new documentary film which is scheduled to air on the Discovery Channel this year.
Ed has dedicated decades of his life to not only keeping our community safe but also community service, he has also volunteered throughout our community in the Port Charlotte Little League, Pop Warner Football and YMCA Soccer, as well as the Special Olympics, the Homeless Coalition, CARE, Big Brother’s Big Sister’s and the Lydecker Foundation. He has also volunteered his time teaching in Charlotte County Schools on a number of law related topics. Ed is also responsible for creating programs in Charlotte County which care for the needy during the Holidays such as the “Shop with a Trooper Program”.
Ed is currently completing his Bachelor’s degree in Criminal Justice at FGCU and plans to attend graduate school there in the summer. Ed wants to take his dedication and experience in serving our community and protecting our streets to the Charlotte County Sheriff’s Office.

His whole background is in human & community services- what did he win a retail award for?

by **Stand Down** » 05/23/12 09:42:11

The Turnkey wrote:**Screaming and beating on a filing cabinet**

by **the other guy** » 05/23/12 09:15:59

The Turnkey wrote:Guest sounds just like JM did back when he was on the job. I would classify this Guest as a parody troll.

And sound like DK. THE PATHETIC.

by **The Turnkey** » 05/23/12 05:17:50

Guest sounds just like JM did back when he was on the job. I would classify this Guest as a parody troll.

by **Stealth™** » 05/22/12 23:10:39

Guest wrote:Is that your counter argument? At least we know what happened to all those special education kids that EP taught.

I can't believe people like you are out there and allowed to take lives.

You make me sick. How can you be expected to keep peace and control when you already have trouble with controlling your temper. :roll:

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