I am Voting Yes On The Contract Proposal.

I have done my research and I am voting yes. No I am not a citizen,PBA Rep, or a Supervisor. I am just someone who has been around for many years, worked in several areas within the department, including patrol,SAC, and the Detective Division.Over recent years I have seen the benefits increase with each contract. All things considered I do not see any benefit in holding out for a higher percentage etc. I have been around long enough to hear citizens tell me that we don't get paid enough yet believe they would balk at higher taxes etc. if we were paid what we think we are worth. I say yes and then let's concentrate on additional pension perks which can be possible with a fully funded pension fund. And for those who have not been on long, a nice pension package is truly the way to end a great career. Be safe and back each other up out there no matter what happens with the contract proposal.

I then will negate your yes vote with my NO vote. Everyone on here is voting no....

If the man is a cop, he is a loser. The contract sucks. Citizens taxes will not increase or decrease based on the PBA contract. Let's screw the cops and build another museum. And don't forget the riverwalk. Nice try.

VOTE NO !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Not every one on here is voting no.

yes vote

Not every one on here is voting no.

yes vote


Of course you're voting yes, you're "da man".

Why because I state a different opinion than yours that you call me a "loser"? Are you one of those brotherhood chest thumpers as long as everyone believes your way. Yes I am with Tampa and let me add that if you are ever in need of a back up my friend when the *#%! hits the fan and your getting your ass kicked.this "loser" will show up and even though you don't know me you'll be glad that I am on your side even if you vote no. And you won't even have to thank me as that is what "we band of true brothers" is suppose to do.
Now go ahead and vote no that's what is great about our democratic society. If the "No's" win and turn down the contract proposal we will just have to see what happens. This "loser" believes it won't get better.
Dr. No stay safe regardless of what happens as for The Man, I FEAR NO MAN AS I AM THE MAN.

Everything is a trade off. What is the 5-5-5 going to cost us, Will it be the court time, specialty pay, shift differential, will there be a fuel charge to take your car home out of the city like HCSO, will the city just say take it to arbitration...If it goes to arbitration will we get more, less or the same. What is the PBA argument at arbitration, yes sir we are the highest paid in central Florida, and currently have one of the best contracts, but it’s not enough. Will the arbitrator agree or disagree? How long will it take? Do you want to wait that long for an extra $500.00 a year pre-taxed? It may never come. The city is not required to retro pay us; it is their option, its not required by our contract. Just something to consider.

It's been considered Jim, and we will wait. VOTE NO !

P.S. stop being a coward, that is what the city is banking on.

If you don't agree with me your a coward, your a looser, your an asss kisser, that from people to scared to post their name. Go figure

If you don't agree with me your a coward, your a looser, your an asss kisser, that from people to scared to post their name. Go figure


You 1st Ray ............whats your full name

Its the ones calling people cowards who should step up or shut up.

City Council has already stated that if we vote this thing down, we will not get less than what has already been offered. Don't believe me ask the P.B.A. Then again, they might keep it a secret like everything else!

Nothing in life is guarenteed except death and taxes. Does that mean we must accept every contract offered no matter what's in it? We need a professional negotiator. Someone with no ties to the city, who can play hardball if necessary. Lets face it, there is no way the PBA negotiating team can do this when they are employed by the city.

I think we've earned better than the 4.5, 4, 4 the city is offering. The city saw fit to reward the staff with hefty bonuses for their hard work. What bonuses are we really getting (as a whole) with this contract? The total percentage is only 1.5% more over the last contract. I think we've produced more than 1.5% in total job performance. I don't believe it's being greedy to want to be appropriately rewarded for a great job performance.

Let's face it. Many citizens still consider police work a blue collar job. If they could get away with it, we would be paid minimum wages. I bet most citizens already think we are overpaid. I don't know about anyone else, but I consider myself a professional in every sense of the word. Most people in this job feel the same way. With the education they want before you are hired, and the contiuing education after being hired this job is a profession.

As a resident of Tampa and a taxpayer, I am curious as to how many of of TPD officers are in fact residents of the City of Tampa. Those that are should receive bonus pay. Those that are not would not receive the bonus pay.

It benefits the residents to have officers residing in the City.

Your offer is fair...the taxpayers can not give more than they have.

How is it a benefit to the city of Tampa that I live in Tampa.....Rest assured that I provide no benefit to the citizens on my days off except for a take home car that sits in my driveway....But im not sure who that does anything for. It sure doesnt get me a discount on my homeowners insurance

You spelled out your true intentions........looking for a "discount".....what a loser. It is a benefit for any City whose officers live within their jurisdiction........why don't you start out with the city gas bill. Hmmmm, lets see.....gas bill to upper Pasco county or to MacDill and Gandy for your take home car. You do the math, but based upon your last ignorant post you will not fugure it out.

Just a thought from an old fart of the dept. I just saw the new insurance rate increases, yes I said increases. The family plan Humana(again our only choice) HMO went from $152 to $176 per paycheck that is a $24 per check increase, $48 per month, or better yet $576 per year more for insurance. That is about a 1% of your raise for this first year. Oh yea the co-payments have increased again.

So you do the math how much of a raise have we really gotten?

I have always voted yes for our contracts even the one where we took a 0% raise one year. The city is flush with money talk with the ofc's in D-3, the chief told them during roll call that the city has a lot of money. The city last year made a billion dollars in permitting fees, Tpa Tribune article. There are numerous areas in towns that are being built up with high dollar condo's. The south end of D-1's tax base will problably increase by several hundred million dollars soon per year.

From an old fart who has been through 6 contracts, I suggest that you vote no.

you people that are going to vote yes are just dumb. thats the bottom line. you might as well just post your name so the city can see who there next 'yes men' are.

Interesting that you call people "dumb" when you don't even know that "there" is the word you would use for a place or distant object. You meant to say "their" meaning ownership. You my friend are the idiot, and be thankful you didn't post you name.

When correcting people make sure your post is error free. It is your name not "you name".

Yes, I did forget the "r" at the end of you........sorry. You are a hero for pointing it out and you should feel good about yourself for catching it. Take care.

Yes, I did forget the "r" at the end of you........sorry. You are a hero for pointing it out and you should feel good about yourself for catching it. Take care.


Who is the moron now ? LOL LOL Caught in your own stupid game.

Vote NO!!! Take a stand. If we all stand up this thing gets kicked back, then we get 5 5 5 at minimum

Well, nothing says we'll definetly get 555 if we vote no...but that's not the point. The point is that we need not vote in a subpar contract just because we might not get more later. What bargaining power will we have in the future if we just take the crap they're handing us? Stand up for what you deserve...vote no.

POLICE DEPARTMENT 2006 MINIMUM 2006 MAXIMUM
Tampa Police Department $42,266.40 $66,681.60
Miami Dade Police Department $40,925.00 $66,287.00
St. Pete Police Department $40,305.00 $60,891.00
Clearwater Police Department $39,534.63 $58,549.85
Tallahassee Police Department $39,282.00 $61,004.00
Orlando Police Department $38,032.00 $60,951.00
Lakeland Police Department $37,630.32 $52,962.00
Sarasota Police Department $33,179.00 $58,136.00

County Sheriff’s Office 2006 MINIMUM 2006 MAXIMUM
Palm Beach County SO $41,088.00 $61,056.00
Pinellas County SO $40,081.86 $61,041.95
Broward County SO $39,754.00 $62,114.00
Hillsborough County SO $39,115.44 $61,042.80
Pasco County SO $37,503.70 $57,018.00
Jacksonville SO $36,527.92 59,807.90
Sarasota County SO $36,445.00 $55,000.00
Orange County SO $35,000.00 $54,537.00
Polk County SO $34,314.00 $48,039.00

Note Year 3 of contract TPD Maximum = $74,276.80

For everything else, there's Mastercard.

Well, nothing says we'll definetly get 555 if we vote no...but that's not the point. The point is that we need not vote in a subpar contract just because we might not get more later. What bargaining power will we have in the future if we just take the crap they're handing us? Stand up for what you deserve...vote no.


Very Well Said .

POLICE DEPARTMENT 2006 MINIMUM 2006 MAXIMUM
Tampa Police Department $42,266.40 $66,681.60
Miami Dade Police Department $40,925.00 $66,287.00
St. Pete Police Department $40,305.00 $60,891.00
Clearwater Police Department $39,534.63 $58,549.85
Tallahassee Police Department $39,282.00 $61,004.00
Orlando Police Department $38,032.00 $60,951.00
Lakeland Police Department $37,630.32 $52,962.00
Sarasota Police Department $33,179.00 $58,136.00

County Sheriff’s Office 2006 MINIMUM 2006 MAXIMUM
Palm Beach County SO $41,088.00 $61,056.00
Pinellas County SO $40,081.86 $61,041.95
Broward County SO $39,754.00 $62,114.00
Hillsborough County SO $39,115.44 $61,042.80
Pasco County SO $37,503.70 $57,018.00
Jacksonville SO $36,527.92 59,807.90
Sarasota County SO $36,445.00 $55,000.00
Orange County SO $35,000.00 $54,537.00
Polk County SO $34,314.00 $48,039.00

Note Year 3 of contract TPD Maximum = $74,276.80

For everything else, there's Mastercard.

WHO GIVES A F......... F............ WHAT OTHER AGENCIES MAKE. IT DOESN'T MATTER!!!!!!!!!!!!

WHAT MATTERS IS THAT WE GET COMPENSATED FOR WHAT WE HAVE DONE AND WILL CONTINUE TO DO. THAT WE WORK HARDER THAN A LOT OF THE AGENCIES THAT YOU HAVE MENTIONED, ETC. ETC. ETC.

MAKING A COMPARISON IS JUST AS ST.... AS SAYING:

"LETS TELL THE CITY THAT WE WANT 0-0-0 BECAUSE WE MAKE TO MUCH MONEY AND WE WANT THE REST OF OUR FLORIDA BROTHERS TO CATCH UP TO US BECAUSE ITS NOT FAIR THAT WE MAKE MORE MONEY THAN THEM!

I love the 'Pay Scale' that the PBA provided. What it does NOT do is to take into consideration the cost of living in the areas in question. According to policepay.net's yearly salary comparison, Jacksonville, Tallahassee and Orlando are all ranked higher than we are in terms of compensation because of the lower cost of living in those areas. In addition, I know for a fact that Orlando's pension has a 3.5% multiplier, they get more longevity pay, and Jacksonville gives up to 20% of an officer's salary for advanced degrees. So don't just look at base salary.

This selective numbers game that the PBA is playing is also leaving out some agencies that have salaries higher than ours. For example:

Palm Beach PD - Starting pay $48,229, top out at $72,613
Coral Springs PD - Starting pay $47,498 plus a $2000 hiring bonus
Volusia County DPP - Starting pay $46,298
Pembroke Pines PD - Starting pay $45,240
Pinecrest PD - Starting pay $45,000
Davie PD - Starting pay $44,567
Miami Beach PD - Starting pay $44,542
Sunrise PD - Starting pay $44,231
Boca Raton PD - Starting pay $43,992
Miramar PD - Starting pay $43,428
Coral Gables PD - Starting pay $42,842

All of the above salaries are taken directly from the FDLE's salary survey that was conducted in 2005 or the department's own websites. They do not account for raises in 2006, so some may even be higher. Unfortunately, the FDLE also doesn't record top out salaries.

So, my question is why weren't these agencies with salaries higher than ours on the list???? NONE of these agencies are anywhere near as large as TPD or have a jurisdiction with as much activity as we do. In addition, many of these agencies have better pension benefits than we do.

If the PBA is going to conduct a salary survey and post it for the members, they need to not be selective with the agencies that they chose to show us. There are smaller departments in less active areas that make a good deal more money than we do and have better overall benefits.

Hey Tampa Tax Payer if more officers could afford to live in one of those big nice new condos downtown or near Harbor Island maybe we would... I think it's great that the crime reduction the great TPD officers have provided the city will allow snobby people to move in downtown. Meanwhile with two incomes I can still barely afford a home anywhere near Tampa...Thanks though :evil: :evil: :evil: