Court rejected retirees appeal

I heard the appeals court denied and rejected the retirees appeal. I wonder why it isn't on their website? Maybe it would affect their fundraising efforts for suing the pension board and unions.

this will get good again. The thieves uhh I mean retirees are slapped down again. I hope they take up modeling or gardening and quit trying to steal, but I doubt it. When they get together and get each other all worked up (viagra?) and through the beer induced euphoria They get the idea hey lets go steal something!!

I have an idea, Sue the city of Tampa, Sue your own leadership, sue the PBA, but lay off the pension fund. How many times do they have to throw your frivolous suits out before you get a feeeling you have no grounds for the attempted theft.

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Perhaps you'll be lucky enough to retire one day.

Yes, hopefully I will be lucky enough to retire one day. And if I am, I certainly won't attempt to screw over the active officers in a lame attempt to get money I am not entitled to. :D

same old argument "I'm doing this for you" Thanks you're taking money from me for my own good. Yeah i'm believing that one.

It's like the husband saying "you make me hit you"


try another argument, because no one not even you believe that crap.


greed is greed and most of the time can't be covered up to look like something else.

Just wondering if Pat or any of the other fine gentlemen on the board can verify...did the appeal really get rejected, or is this a rumor? Thanks in advance for any info.

[Pat Lynch]

I don't know all of the facts but apparently the court rejected their brief because it was longer than the length specified by the court. The court also apparently denied their request for an extended brief. We have a pension meeting tomorrow so there will probably be more info there. I checked the retirees' website and there is no info there so either they haven't been told or they don't want to tell.

I checked the retirees' website and there is no info there so either they haven't been told or they don't want to tell.

Hey Pat, that's not nice. They 'they don't want to tell' part really wasn't called for. I'm quite sure that whenever what happened, whether there was a mistake, or the file needs to be redone or it was denied or 'you won', the retirees site will be very forthcoming with all the facts. Not the negativity, name calling, resentment and bitterness you see on this site. :wink:

Thanks for the info Pat. We appreciate all you've done for us. To the poster above...you complain about the negativity over here then try to slam Pat. Go back to the retiree site. Funny how you guys caused a big stir on your board about anonymity in posting and made your board registration only, but still feel it's okay to come over here and talk trash. SAD.

Hey Pat,

SEND US OUR $6,000 13TH CHECK

THE RETIREES

HEY RETIREES....pay the pension back the $1 million in legal fees it spent defending against your attempted grand theft.

The Actives

I distinctly remember being at the FOP meeting where it was announced for the first time that there would be a 13th check that year because the retirement fund was doing so well with it's investments.

If I recall correctly it was also announced that this was NOT necessarily a permanent thing and that in less prosperous times there was the possibility that there would be NO 13th check. Decisions regarding issuing a 13th check were within the discretion of the Board.

Am I the only person who recalls this?

:?:

" To the poster above...you complain about the negativity over here then try to slam Pat."

Slam Pat? You're nuts. How can that be a slam? And what does the retirees board requiring registration have to do with the price of tea in China? If you don't like or want retiress, or anyone else for that matter, coming on 'your' boards anonymously, tell Chip to change it and stop complaining about it. I think if you search through the retirees boards, you won't find anything like the rhetoric and disrespect you have on these boards. Disrespect for retirees as well as yourselves. You guys continually tear each other up over this stuff. It's really amazing to see what you say about each other as well as the dept and it's open for ALL to read. You're not doing yourselves any favors, I can tell you that. But you all have to learn the hard way. So feel free to keep on *****in and complaining. See what good it does for you. Oh, and as far as what Pat said, well, it just wasn't called for.
Have a happy day, if you're able :roll:

I guess you never read the retiree's post before you had to register. All they did was slam the individuals on the pension board or anyone else who had a different view than they did. Several of the retirees were always slamming Pat. I am a retiree and not a member of their lawsuit. As for not posting about their rejectied brief, they never post anything that is not in their favor. :x

As for not posting about their rejectied brief, they never post anything that is not in their favor. :x

Once again, someone who knows nothing about what's going on and has an opinion. And we all know what opinions are like :lol: I'm not an 'official' person to disseminate info about the proceedings. But I did learn that the brief was not rejected, just the length of it. So this was just a minor procedural matter and nothing to worry about. Nor was there any reason to post it on the retirees site. But someone had to come on here and say, I heard the retirees appeal was lost, or words to that effect. And then active DROP people, you know, the ones who aren't paying $10,000/yr for insurance, start begging for THEIR 13th check. So instead of relying on these boards, where everyone wants to stab each other in the back, maybe they should ask the same question on the retirees boards and get the truth. But as Jack Nicholson once said, 'You can't handle the truth'.

Wow "guest", I guess it completely escapes you that Pat Lynch has the courage to put his name on his posts- you have posted at least three times in this string, all without having the courage or the belief in yourself and the feeling that you know what the heck your talking about to post YOUR name. I think that says a lot about you. You claim to speak for the retirees--well I am a retiree and YOU DONT SPEAK FOR ME!!!! I have been righted and wronged in my long career- but I don't blame the world (or the pension board, or the PBA, or anyone else.) It is called life- You can become consumed with anger and see EVERYTHING as an attack or you can come back to reality and live a longer and healthier life. I have told my friends and spouse- If I ever become the negative fixated complainer that many of these retirees have become- SHOOT ME! for I will have forgotten what life is really about- I have gone on and with or without the 13th check- with or without the added multiplier- I WILL BE JUST FINE because I manage my finances and life around what I have - not what I think I am "entitled to". :lol:

The fact is....if a citizen accused you of stealing $20.00 out of their wallet after an arrest, I think you would be EXTREMELY upset and just pissed..

Who are you to call the retirees thiefs.....totally uncalled for but then consider the source. You sit in a patrol car and I'll bet your stats are not the highest on your squad and then you collect a pay check and you call the retirees thiefs......

You *&^#((**@#*

Hey sparky, "active drops" are'nt crying for their 13th check because all it does is go into their drop account while they're still active.

The Judge told the Retirees that the Brief was longer than he told them it could be. They put in a motion to allow the longer brief but was denied. The PENSION made a motion to EXPEDITE the appeal due to it being a "public interest" as there are so many retirees waiting for that check. The Judge DENIED that motion citing it was NOT a Public Interest. But the real rub was that the RETIREE ASSOC. made a motion to EXTEND the time for the appeal instead of supporting a quick resolution by the Judge....so get pissed about your leadership (or lack thereof) retirees.

And save your BS comments about the extension motion...all your guys are trying to do is prolong the enevitable and your hoping to make a deal where you guys wont get sued back...while your group blindly follows..like they did all the years you told everyone "you just wont understand " the pension.

[Pat Lynch]

At yesterday's pension board meeting we received a copy of the notice from the court. The court rejected the retirees' filing because it was 55 pages long and the court had limited each side to 50 pages. The court also rejected their request to extend the page limit. The court gave them 10 days to correct and submit their brief.

No reason to get 'pissed' at the retirees leadership. Sounds like they're doing the best they can and looking out for the retirees. A concept that no one here can grasp. And no one here certainly gives a crap about. Getting a 'quick resolution' is not our concern. Getting a fair one is.

I retired after 22 years, so i am not an outsider , by any means. The retirees who filed the lawsuit do not represent me. As for not knowing whats going on, why is that? Its obvious the retiree group wants to keep secret what their true intentions are. You know that if you win the lawsuit(when hell freezes over) you will sue for damages which will be in the millions. Now who is trying to steal?? I will not get any of it, the retiree group wont even let me get my 13th check. Try reading the president of the retirees and you get motion sicknes from all the spining. Its got so bad at the pension board meetings that fights break out. mSounds like the retiree group are a bunch of thugs. :?

No reason to get 'pissed' at the retirees leadership. Sounds like they're doing the best they can and looking out for the retirees. A concept that no one here can grasp. And no one here certainly gives a crap about. Getting a 'quick resolution' is not our concern. Getting a fair one is.



Well, Johhny Cocran was doing "the best" he could by getting OJ off, doesn't mean he wasn't guilty and it doesn't make Cocran a hero.

The lawyers have acheived their goal, which is get the retirees to spend a bunch of money. Some more lawyers will get a chance to get some of the retirees money when the retirees get sued for court costs ( and they will.....)

"I will not get any of it, the retiree group wont even let me get my 13th check."
So now it's the retirees group who won't let you get your 13th check. You're all nucking futs :wink:

"I will not get any of it, the retiree group wont even let me get my 13th check."
So now it's the retirees group who won't let you get your 13th check. You're all nucking futs :wink:



Well, if the "retiree group" had never sued ( or had given up after they lost the suit ), the 13th check would have been sent out by now. If there is something incorrect about that statement then tell me what it is??

That tatement being a fact, yes, the retiree group is what caused the 13th check to be held.

Well, if the "retiree group" had never sued ( or had given up after they lost the suit ), the 13th check would have been sent out by now. If there is something incorrect about that statement then tell me what it is??

That tatement being a fact, yes, the retiree group is what caused the 13th check to be held.

Once again, ignorance prevails. The retirees didn't 'sue'. I'm not going to explain what they did since it's been rehashed a zillion times here. Since you haven't gotten it yet, you never will. There was and continues to be no valid reason for withholding the 13th check, regardless of the excuse the pension board gave. Using this same logic of withholding the 13th check, the new multiplier should also have been put on hold until everything was resolved. But we all know that logic is something seldom seen here.

[Pat Lynch]

My decision was easy when our lawyer said if we paid the 13th check and were wrong it could come from MY POCKET. Sorry, but I'm not risking a potential million dollar plus judgment so you can have a few grand.

13th Check Legal Opinion
http://tamparetiree.com/new_page_86.htm

Pat you do have insurance on the board don't you......it will never come out of your pocket....you know that. Quit sturring the pot.........

OK, since you are getting hung up on legal wording, how about this ( and try to answer the question this time sparky )


Well, if the "retiree group" had never taken legal action ( or had given up after they lost the original legal action ), the 13th check would have been sent out by now. If there is something incorrect about that statement then tell me what it is?? I'm waiting.........

Why don't you come to a retirees meeting and ask those questions that you haven't been able to figure out by now?

Why don't you come to a retirees meeting and ask those questions that you haven't been able to figure out by now?



I know the answer, so why go to the meeting and hang around a bunch of sour grape whiners??

Maybe you should actually try to find out what the retirees concerns are before you accuse someone of stealling. Many of these retirees fought long and hard for what rights YOU now have. So maybe you should just get off your duff and check things out!!! News for you, the City and Pension board aggreed to certain rights as these folks retired and then went back on their word to the very people they promised!!!!! But then you would need to pull your head out of your butt to realize that.

I KNOW your concerns, they are simply to enrich yourself at the expense of others. THIEVES

You hope to hold hostage and get something you don't deserve. I for one will implement a scorched earth policy, and burn everything in my wake if thats what it takes to keep you greedy, crusty, pension thieves from getting a dime.


That clear enough for you grampy?