Trooper Burgos you are a disgrace!

Trooper Burgos you are a disgrace to the uniform you wear. The rest of you at FHP should take a collection and make a donation in Officer Bello's name. God bless Officer Bello's family and may he RIP.

Ticket a second torment for officerThe Florida Highway Patrol is reviewing an incident in which a Miami police lieutenant was ticketed while rushing to a hospital where his son lay mortally injured.
BY JOAN FLEISCHMAN

Miami police Lt. Armando Bello was in the Florida Keys when he got word that his son, a 27-year-old Miami-Dade police officer, was critically injured in an off-duty, one-car crash at 5:45 a.m. Saturday. Bello jumped into his car and was racing north on U.S. 1, headed to Jackson Memorial Hospital, when he got stopped for speeding by the Florida Highway Patrol.

Bello, 49, told Trooper Jose Burgos the circumstances. Burgos didn't believe him. So he wrote Bello a ticket -- for doing 91 mph in a 55-mph zone. That was at 7:11 a.m.

What Bello didn't know was that doctors at JMH's Ryder Trauma Center had just pronounced his son dead at 7:08 a.m. Officer Armando Bello Jr. was on his way home from a party for a fellow police officer when his silver Lexus hit a tree at Northwest 27th Avenue and 110th Street.

FHP Lt. Col. Rick Gregory said the brass are reviewing the traffic ticket situation. ''Our concern is the sensitivity and discretion issue,'' Gregory said.

Burgos, 26, a trooper for three years, lives in Homestead and patrols upper Monroe County on the day shift. He was driving to work in his marked black-and-yellow cruiser when a motorist flagged him down to report a ''reckless driver,'' Capt. Jaime Picanol said Tuesday.

Burgos saw Bello ''passing, changing lanes, at a very high rate of speed,'' Picanol said. The trooper clocked Bello's Mercedes with radar and pulled him over at mile marker 118. Bello said he was a policeman and that he had a gun in the car. ''`My son has been involved in a serious crash,'' he told Burgos, according to Picanol. ``He's been airlifted.''

Burgos, who had watched the TV morning news, ''didn't hear anything about it,'' Picanol said. ``He didn't give it much credibility, so he wrote him a ticket.''

Burgos felt terrible when he later learned that Bello was telling the truth and that his son had died.

Bello, a 26-year Miami Police Department veteran now assigned to the communications section, once worked motorcycle patrol, doing traffic and DUI enforcement.

Burgos is a solid, ''high activity'' trooper, Picanol said. And troopers ''get so many excuses, you have to determine which is real,'' Picanol added.

Said Lt. Col Gregory: ``It is hard to put a policy in place to describe common sense, but we want to make sure every trooper understands that they have discretion and there is a need for sensitivity.''

Burgos will likely void the ticket, Picanol said. ``He's going to take care of the citation to make sure Lt. Bello won't have to go to court.''

The junior Bello was a finalist for the Dade County Police Benevolent Association's Officer of the Year award in 2005 for rescuing a driver and four children from a burning car.

Services are at 10 a.m. today at St. Brendan Catholic Church in Westchester. Burial is at Woodlawn Park South, 11655 SW 117th Ave. In lieu of flowers, the Bello family requests donations to the Police Officer Assistance Trust, 1030 NW 111th Ave., Suite 232, Miami, FL 33172.

Unbelievable. Unbelievable. The pinnacle of scumbaggery. He wrote a police Lieutenant a citation. Never mind the circumstances!

One must maintain a certain resignation in order not to explode. Although there are exceptions, by and large, Florida Highway Patrol is not part of any brotherhood and never will be. They just do not understand the concept of loyalty and never will.

[Threefourths]

First, I would like to convey my sincerest sympathies to the Bello family for their loss.

Now as a new member of this site I would like to introduce myself and ask the moderator to contact me If I have offended him/her in any way.
I am a retired NYC Police Officer that read this story in the Miami Herald.
I am absolutely ashamed by what this Trooper did.
I posted a thread stating the same and it has been deleted because of profanity used.
For that I apologize!
I ask that you re-post my original thread which now reads Post deleted and I will gladly remove the profanity (which was *'ed out to begin with)

Quit now Burgos

[MOD 310]

Threefourths, no offense taken. I'm just trying to keep the replies from getting out of hand. Your comments are welcome.

[papdwannabe]

as a nyc police officer i have heard some bad stories about cops treating cops badly but this takes the cake. florida state patrol know has a black eye over this situation and its up to the cops that work with this loser to remedy the situation. if this pos was a cop in nyc for starters his locker would be heading uptown on the A train. and thats for starters.

My deceased dad (NYPD 49/71) upon inquiry of some of the many acts of stupidity I inflicted upon him and mom in my youth would casually ask, "about 30 seconds or so before you did what you did, what the %$^%& were you thinking about. My usual answer was "nothing". I ask respectfully of Trooper Burgos
what was crossing your mind at the moment at which the MOS/Lt identified himself to you? Is it true that you guys write marked units?

I am a retired NYPD police officer. I have always held the bond between fellow law enforcement departments to be a sacred thing. I have ALWAYS gone out of my way to insure that any interactions I have had with outside agencies left all parties involved feeling a little better about what each other does. I am in shock that this disgrace to not only his shield, but any shield thinks that this is the way that fellow LEO's should be treated. I am having a hard time putting into words(or at least edited, appropriate and non vulgar words) how I feel about this disgrace. Up north, as previously posted by a fellow NYPD officer this idiot's locker would be going for a train ride. In my old command it would have been used as a toilet first. It is a disgrace to the memory of every LEO who has made the ultimate sacrifice. PLEASE, someone from FHP respond to this and let us know that not only is this nonsense not accepted and not the norm, but will in some way be dealt with. I can only hope that this moron will find half the discomfort that he caused this other officer's family during thier worst and most dismal hour. Burgos you truly are a piece of garbage, any real police officer on this board is sickened by you and your actions. You disgust me more than words can say.

You know what... it is not just because of the fact that he was rushing to his dying child that he should not have been written up, it is SIMPLY BECAUSE HE IS ON THE JOB THAT HE SHOULD NOT HAVE BEEN WRITTEN UP! HOW DO YOU NOT BELIEVE A FELLOW OFFICER...I AM SURE HE CLEARLY HAD SOME VISIBLE SIGNS THAT SOMETHING SERIOUS WAS GOING ON... this trooper is a total fool, a disgrace, COPS DO NOT WRITE OTHER COPS... I've had a CIVILIAN tell me that their wife was in the hospital after a car accident in critical condition, I did not let him off with a warning... I LET HIM FOLLOW ME to the hospital... I could have cared less who tried to jam me up if they found out, a life is a life... if a person is not lying to you, and you can help them, they should.
AN OFFICER SHOULD NEVER BE WRITTEN UP

AN OFFICER WHO IS RUSHING TO A HOSPITAL should be given an escort!

amazing

I am a retired New York City Police Officer, and I felt sick to my
stomach when I read how trooper Burgos treated a fellow Law Enforcement Officer who was enroute to his dying son's side who was also a Police officer, and has the nerve to issue a citation to this officer.....I never in all my time on the job ever issued a citation to another member of law enforcement....as soon as they ID themselfs it was always have a nice day and god bless.........The rule in the NYPD is cops dont write cops
I thing the Florida Highway Patrol should take up this rule.. :roll:

This is a pathetic situation. The trooper should be ashamed of himself. As if some cop would make up an excuse that his son, also a MOS, was dying to get out of a traffic ticket. This trooper is a moron and should be forced to attend the deceased officer's funeral. RIP Brother.

I really wish I could say we all them in our agencies but I have to say,,,Mann that is really bad. That Trooper should plain out be ashamed of himself. The the Brass takes up for him...That was wrong any way around it. When he said he was a cop and then given the situation. I would of escorted you to the county line period or zone line or whatever but for someone including brass to say Troopers here all kind of excuses,,,,WTF..,He said he was a Cop... Miami Dade PD and Miami PD I am sorry for your lose of a brother officer. FHP please school your rookie so he doesnt get yall hurt over there geez. That is just awful

Maybe they could double up Frye and Burgos and make a tag team out of Cop writers. Both are a disgrace!

Quit now Burgos

Trooper Burgos. LEO are required to make judgement calls each day to save lives. Your judgement shills are way off. Please find other work, since LE is not for you.

I hope you have nightmares.

How come we have not heard from any of Trooper Burgos's co-workers? Aren't you guys ashamed that he disgraced your uniform? I know there have to be some FHPT that have some common sense and are good Officers. Remember if one of you is getting his/her ass kicked on the side of the road it will probably be a speeding off duty cop that slows down and stops to help you. Cops don't write cops.......ever.

I hope the same respect and courtesy is shown to you and all your family members in a time of tragedy! :x

You are a disgrace to the shield and deserve to rot in hell for your actions! :evil:

I am a police officer in Ontario, Canada. I am absolutely disgusted that this "officer" wrote a fellow officer for speeding, regardless of what the "excuse" was. For a young officer to assume that a senior lieutenant was lying about his son being critically injured is mind-boggling.......

I hope all Florida officers are ashamed of this clown.

quit you disgrace

Deepest regrets to the Bello family, and to Trooper Burgos, you are a disgrace to every cop that ever put on a uniform and strapped on a gun. You shall reap what you sow.

Someone needs to take this trooper behind the wood shed and stich this MF, up!

First of all on behalf of the Florida Highway Patrol, i'd like to extend my symphathy to the family of Officer Bello. It is a tragic and senseless death.

Ive read all the posts pertaining to this incident and I must say im really not surprised. Everyone is always quick to criticize FHP for writing cops. The bottom line is that every department has cops that have no problem writing other cops tickets. This particular scenario was very unfortunate. Whether or not the trooper exercised bad judgement, when he did find out that the Lt's story was true, the citation was voided. Did any of you stop to think that there might be more to the story then what u read in the newspaper? Do you think the media has all the facts? Did the media interview the trooper to ask him what his thought process was? Ofcourse not.. They put a quote in the paper from a Lt. Col. in Tallahassee who only knows the minimal facts surrounding the incident. From what i have heard, the trooper asked dispatch to find out whether or not there were any crashes involving a Miami-Dade Officer. The response was no. While the trooper had the Lt. stopped, 3 or 4 vehicles stopped to advise the trooper that the Lt. was running people off the road and driving like a maniac. The ticket was written on the basis that the Lt. might be less then truthful about why he was driving in such a reckless mannor. When the trooper found out that the story was in fact true, he did the right thing by voiding the citation. PLease let this rest.

Why would ANY cop write another cop in the first place? Remember its always at your DISCRETION. If we dont take care of each other, who will?

I hope you can live with yourself, you really should be ashamed of yourself! What could have POSSIBLY been thinking when you wrote a fellow cop? Especially one that works in the same state as you!! Unbelievable...

[cougarcop]

I have worn this uniform proudly for 10 years, but today I'm ashamed to say I work for an organization who created a machine that did this deed. The Highway Patrol for about 5 to 6 years now has created the ticket writing revenue generating machine and then rewards these machines with atta-boy letters, Troopers of the month and hell let's give them a Maurader to boot. Let's not make sure that the ticket's that are written are good case's....Let's just look at the numbers! SOAR has helped create this monster, and the Brass turns their heads because they got the numbers they needed.
Have you no heart, no soul.
I truely believe during that traffic stop, this Trooper could have been able to see the concern in this man who was distraught and was trying to get to his son.
Let's throw out that he was a fellow LEO, Let him go. :twisted:
If he was lying to you, OH the F*%k well. You will get another to double tap to make up for the one that got away.
I read this board daily and was getting sick and tired of hear of other officers complaining, but this one takes the cake and draws a line. :x

I cant believe that there are cops who are sticking up for this tropper!

trooper burgos you are a disgrace

[Ship]

I am disgusted by what this disgrace to the profession has done. I am equally disgusted by anyone who defends or makes excuses for him.

Cops can only rely on each other. There was NO reason or excuse for this. True story or not, the LT's ID should have been sufficient for a "Warn and Admonish".

I hope this incident weighs heavy on Burgos. Although since he's the type to do this in the first place... I DOUBT IT!

My respects to the Bello Family. This Trooper should no longer be working as a LEO. Writing another MOS to advance your career should be the last thing on your mind. Let alone a MOS who is stating that his son (Active MOS) was in a car collision. Bad judgement on this Troopers part.



-NYC Investigator-

From your post I see you also enjoy writing citations to other law enforcement officer.......I have had two seperate partners
get banged by FHP for speeding while on there way to vacation in florida......and both were going with the flow of traffic when they were stopped.......

Ok, lets all agree that what that one trooper did was way off the chain. But lets not bash all FHP troopers. Please tell me that we as LEO's can see beyond one or two bad apples. I work for a large city and get to drive a marked car home through an adjoining county. I try to respect the FHP and SO units I see on my way home by not blowing their doors off. I expect the same from them in my city. Its a mutual respect thing. I DO NOT advocate writing cops. The word brotherhood means something. When I was involved in a traffic crash on I-75 and flown to the hospital, one of the first people I saw when I woke up was a trooper. He had my gunbelt and vest which EMS had removed. He shook my hand, told me to get well cause we're all in this together, gave me a half grin and said 'Be seeing ya'. He could have stroked me a ticket for the crash. He didn't. Don't lump each bad cop in with the whole agency cause trust me y'all, each agency has their own basket of dirty laundry. For God's sake be safe.

FHP is not a bad organization, and it is correct theat all troops have their flaws, I imagine that Burgos is having to deal with alot of critisism right now from all sorts of people. Have you accomplished your purpose if you have him quit, does that make everything all right. What has happened is done and you cannot take it back. Get off his back now, I am in no way defending what he has done, but I find it some what childish to keep on about it.

[papdwannabe]

i dont think that everybody is blaming the troopers for working with this moron, im sure that there outstanding officers assigned to fhp. believe me in new york we have our share of less then desireable people working with us but thats when fellow coworkers have to step up and correct this individual. and to the guy actually defending this trooper man are you thickheaded, i dont give a #### about his thought process he wrote another police officer period. thats something you just dont do. after he identified himself the trooper should have said have a nice day or maybe slow down we got some complaints about your driving. cops should not write other cops.

Ease up are you kidding me. This Trooper should not be in LE. I respect FHP and I'm sure you have some good Officer's but this is a slap in the face to every LEO in the country. Do you know what would happen if I pulled a FHPT over? Nothing! I would say have a nice day and be safe.

You guys down south need to take that Frye and Burgos and all other ticket writing cops and find the least populated county to stick them in! Put them away from other cops and the population in general.

AMEN RETIRED BROTHERS FROM NYPD. FIRST KNOW THIS FACT, IT IS F.H.P. THAT ENGAGES IN THIS PRACTICE!! NOT THE OTHER PROFFESSIONAL AGENCY'S. I HAVE BEEN AN LEO UP NORTH AS WELL AS DOWN SOUTH AND THE REPUTATION OF F.H.P. IS WELL KNOWN UP AND DOWN THE I-95 CORRIDOR. YEARS AGO I WAS EVEN STOPPED BY A NEW YORK STATE TROOPER, WHEN I IDENTIFIED MYSELF AS A FL LEO HIS RESPONSE TO ME WAS "BE GLAD THAT SHIELD DOESNT SAY FHP ON IT BECAUSE OUR GUY'S VACATION DOWN THERE AND COME BACK WITH 300 DOLLAR TICKETS". ITS ABSOLUTELY DISGUSTING!!!!!!!!! :x

You northern LEO's are right, you should be shown discretion when pulled over. However, before discretion is shown, respect should be displayed. How many northern LEO's showed even the slightest bit of humility & politeness?

Reminds me of a similiar situation I had with FHP supertrooper, while on duty I got a phone call that my step brother was in a serious motorcycle accident and was trauma alerted to broward general. once I arrived with several other uniformed officers to my brothers side, I had the coldest POS trooper ask my intentions with his possible 10-15. I explained our relation and inquired about the 10-15 (reckless Dr.). He excused himself from the ER and returned shortly after with 3 10-94's. He approached my brother who was still unconscience from the accident, held 4 citations about an inch from his blood soaked face and started to explain his court options. This must be a course given at the FHP academy, I have never seen this mentality from any other agency. I grabbed the citations and politely ask all 4 of the supertroopers to exit immediately. I invite every single trooper that reads this post to attend police week in D.C. next year, then go to work and look one of US in the face with that attitude. Oh, yeh, before they left the ER one trooper turned and stated "Thats how we like to catch them"

I think it's funny that troopers have the same response whenever a thread like this is posted in their forum:

"Don't let one or two bad apples ruin the reputation of the whole agency."

Considering the sheer number of troopers who write LEOs tickets, there are way more than "one or two" bad apples in FHP. I'm not saying that every trooper would write another LEO, but a good percentage do. That's a simple fact. FHP has not gotten this reputation without cause, and all you troopers know it. I also used to be an officer up north and can attest to FHP's reputation for writing LEOs. Every cop up north knows that if you're pulled over by FHP or Virginia State Police, you'll be getting a ticket. While it's bad enough to write brother LEOs from other states, it's even worse to write the same ones who you may be depending on for a backup on a daily basis.

For all you good FHP troopers out there, why do you stay? Your agency pays peanuts and has marginal benefits. Don't you realize that there are agencies in this state where your starting salary will be more than an FHP sergeant or lieutenant???

BUMP

Who cares about New York! It's a sh###hole anyhow!

Right, and this ass backwards State is just wonderful!!?? Im from here and can honestly say it Blows!! I have been to NY and found it to be a pretty neat place.

"Who cares about New York! It's a sh###hole anyhow!"

Maybe so, but at least we know how to take care of our brother LEO no matter where they work even you guys down south.

Yeah.

Come to DC Burgos. Come look your fellow cops in the face and tell then why you are tagging other cops. You are a disgrace to cops everywhere.

For all the LEO's out there thats trying to run FHP Troopers in the mud you may want to stop and think back to when you took your oath. No where in your oath does it say your badge is a free ride to do whatever you want. Where I believe the Trooper should have used better judgement. I also believe that we all need to understand the entire situation. First of all there are only two lanes on US1 AND 118 MILE MARKER AND IF PEOPLE ARE BEING RAN OFF THE ROAD THEN WE COULD HAVE HAD TWO OR MORE DEATHS THAT DAY. Just remember none of us know where our family is at all times and that could have been one of your family members being ran off the road. No one controls life or death but god so it was not the Trooper that killed this officer. My condolences go out the Bello's family. To all the LEO'S WITH ALL THE SLICK COMMENTS
REMEMBER THE DOOR SWINGS BOTH WAYS. I am disgusted that so
many LEO'S believe that they can do whatever the hell they want
and get away with it because of a badge. :cry:

For all the LEO's out there thats trying to run FHP Troopers in the mud you may want to stop and think back to when you took your oath. No where in your oath does it say your badge is a free ride to do whatever you want. Where I believe the Trooper should have used better judgement. I also believe that we all need to understand the entire situation. First of all there are only two lanes on US1 AND 118 MILE MARKER AND IF PEOPLE ARE BEING RAN OFF THE ROAD THEN WE COULD HAVE HAD TWO OR MORE DEATHS THAT DAY. Just remember none of us know where our family is at all times and that could have been one of your family members being ran off the road. No one controls life or death but god so it was not the Trooper that killed this officer. My condolences go out the Bello's family. To all the LEO'S WITH ALL THE SLICK COMMENTS
REMEMBER THE DOOR SWINGS BOTH WAYS. I am disgusted that so
many LEO'S believe that they can do whatever the hell they want
and get away with it because of a badge. :cry:


You miss the point of the thread. It has been acknowledged that the Lieutenant could not be permitted to continue to drive 90 mph on a two lane road in the keys, especially in the highly emotional state that he was in. But the solution was NOT to TICKET HIM and send him on his way - it was to TRANSPORT HIM quickly and safely to the hospital.

That would equal cops helping cops (brothers helping brothers) rather than the abomination of what was done.

:x

Hypocrites, you cowards who write your brothers, better never show your faces at the memorial in DC. You'd write your own, how could one expect you to mourn for someone you would readily write.

[TTPD]

I wasn't there, so I'm not going to criticize. However, I will say that based on what I read, and not knowing the full story, and every detail, I would never have written that citation, nor would I have held up that LT's trip any further.

FHP isn't the only agency that has officers who write other cops. NY State Police, Virginia State Police, South/North Carolina Highway Patrol have all been mentioned in the past for employing officers that write one another. Is it common practice? Certainly not. Do I label an entire agency by the stories of a few bad apples? I suppose sometimes when I have the blues coming up behind me, I may think "great, here comes FHP". The truth is, I have been stopped by FHP 3 or 4 times, as a LEO and as a civilian, and have never once gotten a citation. Call it luck, call it whatever, but I would imagine it had something to do with owning up to my mistake, and showing the Trooper the same respect I would want to be shown on a stop. There are a lot more good apples in FHP then there are bad, and unfortunately, as we can see here in this thread, the good apples have to put up with a lot of crap labeling of their entire agency.

I don't want to see anyone fired, but I think a trip back to the academy for these guys, for a lesson on discretion might be in order.

Be well, brtoehrs and sisters, and despite a few, we're all on the same side.

Just remember to keep that shield and ID out of sight the next time you are stopped. Take the summonses like a "civilian" and live by the words you preach.

You know that you would have that ID out if you were stopped.. F ing liars and F ing Hypocrites.. Shame on you as well as trooper Burgos, that POS rookie..

That was directed to the defenders of this POS Burgos...


Just remember to keep that shield and ID out of sight the next time you are stopped. Take the summonses like a "civilian" and live by the words you preach.

You know that you would have that ID out if you were stopped.. F ing liars and F ing Hypocrites.. Shame on you as well as trooper Burgos, that POS rookie..

well this is unreal and this needs to be addressed, i am so ashamed :cry:

I AM SICK TO MY STOMACH THATS ALL I CAN SAY

http://www.fhp.state.fl.us/academy/ClassActs/105Grads/Burgos121803.htm

Now THAT"S a head!!!!

http://www.fhp.state.fl.us/academy/ClassActs/105Grads/Burgos121803.htm

The picture explains a lot. That scar on his forehead that extends through his right eyebrow is undoubtedly where his lobatomy was performed.

:twisted:

I'm a little confused. There is post after post on the FHP site about what a jerk the trooper was for writing a ticket to an off duty policeman. On another forum on LEOAffairs, there is a thread about a deputy that wrote a city cop a speeding ticket. Everyone on that forum fully supports the deputy that wrote the ticket. I don't get it....what's the difference?

Well first off the deputy wrote a reserve officer. not a real one. That particular officer has often sought privilege using her reserve badge. Some say she is only a reserve to get off duty jobs.

She isn't a real street cop never was really and doesn't deserve discretion.

Wow, Now that is a bunch of BS. I thought we are all family.
So you are rationalizing the criteria for writing an LEO. Reserve or auxillary they also belong to the family.

Any agency that has a tool time like this gomer take him out back and school him like he should. There are enough people out there without writting a FREAKING TRAFFIC INFRACTION to one of our own. Its called perks of the job. Aux,Reserve,Full time, city ,county,state and federal. Ok we have beat this horse to death. yOU DONT LIKE IT FIND ANOTHER JOB. Just remember that off duty leo you stop one day might be saving your butt the next.

Well first off the deputy wrote a reserve officer. not a real one. That particular officer has often sought privilege using her reserve badge. Some say she is only a reserve to get off duty jobs.

She isn't a real street cop never was really and doesn't deserve discretion.


What are you referring to? One forum refers to Trooper Frye from Pasco County, giving a TIA Officer a ticket for 13 over. Some back the Officer, some the Trooper. The other forum is about Trooper Burgos , in the Keys, giving an off duty Lt. a ticket on his way to a Miami Hospital to be with his critically injured LEO son that was involved in a traffic trash. Trooper Burgos didn't believe him after checking with his dispatch to verify the crash, and gave him a ticket. What RESERVE Officer are you referring too?

I have been a LEO for over 25 years now, and would not give another LEO a ticket unless I had no choice in the matter. I live within the laws that I enforce too. Do I speed? Yes, but I don't do more than 15 over though, since that is when most LEO's issue citations to the public. Common sense must be used too. 15 over in a School Zone or residential area is too much. One writer stated, "What if a child ran out?" LEO's are highly trained in pursuit and defensive driving, much more so than the public. Does that give them the right to speed? No. But we watch each other's backs and it just might be that LEO you gave a break to that will save your life one day. Not many citizens would put themselves in harm's way to help an Officer like another Officer would. Frye and Burgos are rookies. They will learn. Discretion, common sense, and instinct are all part of Law Enforement. Learn when to use it. If you do get a ticket, just take care of it and go on with your life. There is one in every department in every State. Stay safe and be happy. :)

We have some morons who write cops.. We all know that. Just take them behind the station and Code Red. Thats all. Next topic please. This is boring

you guys are beating the hell out of a dead horse. alot of dept. has a tool that writes cops. :oops: yes what the trooper did is wrong, it was his call, a bad one, but it was his. what is done is done. the citation was taken care of the same day, and the problem was resolved. but simple fact of the matter is you fhp bashers got alot of testicular fortitued sitting on the computer in the comfort of your homes or at work( are you suppose to be online at work?), if your really that bent out of shape about the situation go up to a trooper and talk your trash to their face or in this case to burgos face, you just might get rid of all that anger you got stored up in you and also a size 10 where the sun dont shine. you cant lable all of the fhp troopers out there that bust there ass everyday just because one made a bad call. i guess all of you are perfect l.e.o's that are talking all this mad smack. never messed up in the lifetime of your careers. the real hypocrites here are all of you perfect officers. why dont you gods of perfection got out and do your jobs and rid world of crime instead of sitting here and bashing an great angency. if you guys fight crime as good as you talk smack it would be a crime free society. another thing, if you guys where, as you claim brothers, you would accept the fact that the kid messed up and go on with your life. is that not what you do when a younger sibling, son, daughter makes a mistake. check yourselves before you talk you smack. some brothers. and yes i am a FLORIDA STATE TROOPER. :twisted: :twisted:

To the FLORIDA STATE TROOPER.....I bet you have a shaved head and a mustache. Wear that 10 gallon hat too…..

The ticket may have been thrown out, but the damage was done. FHP has a lousy reputation with other LEO's in Florida, and this little episode just made it worse. Most of the troopers I've run into in my 8 years on the job have been great, but I've also seen some examples of why they're called AAA with a gun, and Florida's Helpless Police.

can i correct you sir, its not a 10 gallon hat. its a campaign cover. and no i dont have a shaved head, nor a mustache. and why would you make a statement like that, having those homo-erotic thought again.(its ok, dont ask dont tell :wink:) what i do have is pride in the deptpartment that i choose to work in. just like the pride i have of being a marine for 4 years. and like in the marines i will defend it from trash talkers like you. like i said before, and ill say it again so it will absorb into that sorry excuse of a brain that you have you ignorant hypocrite, you cant judge a whole dept. by the actions of one. hey, just because you sound like a total moron on here dosen't mean im going to lable everyone that works in your dept.(thats if you work in a dept or wackenhut or security at the local bank) a moron also. get off the band wagon. there always two side to a story i gues you know both parties personally and gathered all tha fact and are writing up your findings, yeah right. and yes sir, you are correct the damage is done, but is any of this bashing fixing it, no. what if the lt. would've killed himself driving recklessly to the hospital and took a family of four that was on vacation and heading down to key west with him? what then, let me guess,those trooper are a bunch of lazy f**ks, they should,ve been there to stop that reckless driver. its a no win situation and its part of the job. i accept it and if you guys are so professional and so into the brotherhood you would accept it to. i have never written an l.e.o., doctors, firefighters. and never will, but you guys that keep on bashing fhp are probably the idiots that are writting up the l.e.os in you respective department and just want to unload that guilty feeling on us. go ahead and talk you trash, make your comments, voice your opinions if that is going to keep you busy and happy, its a right you have and on that i served in the marine corp to protect. this i boring already, i really thought there would be intelligent and rational people her but damn, there goes another bad fhp judment call. :( FLORIDA STATE TROOPER. :twisted: :twisted:

A-T-T-E-N-T-I-O-N you troglodyte! If you would do us all the favor of pausing Full Metal Jacket on your DVD player for one moment and consider the following:

1. Learn the rules of punctuation, as well as how to spell properly. Oh I forgot, you don't need good grammar skills to write a citation.

2. Come to the realization that your agency is notorious for violating the 'brotherhood.' That is ABSOLUTELY indisputable. More LEOs have been issued citations by FHP than any other agency. There are some exceptions, it is true. But those are clearly an aberration. With FHP it is the norm. Imagine, I actually EXPECT to receive a ticket in northern Florida if I get caught speeding!

3. I'm sick of reading justifications for the Trooper's actions. He is a moron, period. It's been written here before, but since you seem a bit slow, I'll take the liberty of writing it again. Police officers DO NOT WRITE other police officers. Understand, moron? THERE IS NO EXCUSE.

I'm glad you've never written another LEO before. Now try promulgating that mindset amongst you peers. You ARE your brother's keeper!

Maybe, while your chortling that idiotic, juvenile sounding cadence that marines so embarassingly boast, you can 'motivate' some of those automatons to learn a little professional courtesy!

As you were!

Thank you for the compliment, troglodyte! whao, i've never been called that before. Did you think of that yourself. I am impressed. Sorry but I like A**HOLE better. :twisted:

As for you keen observation of the rules of puctuation and grammar skills that I posses, thats exactly what my 2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11,12 grade teacher told me too. But you are correct, no need for those skills to write citation(simpleton - if you think thats all I do.) or to shoot a rifle. Remember what marine stands for Muscle Are Required Intelligence Not Essential. :lol: :twisted: Stanley Kubrick rules.

And how can you write about respect, courtesy and professionalism when you, my teacher, cannot even respect the a branch of the military which is out there fighting a war,(wether its justified of not-while) while you are over here talking that trash. Nor respect another department and it members who have nothing to do with the actions of a handful of morons. Sir the only idiotic, juvenile sound, is your repeaditive whining.

And you claim you are sick of reading justification for the troopers action. You just dont want to here the other side of the story. Remember a mind is like a parachute, if its closed it dosen't work. A couple of things that I agree with you is that, yes the kid dosen't have the common sense god gave a jack ass. Yes, this dept. has a bunch of "your on my highway boy" attitude that is just sickning.(n.florida statement-i would even get a ticket up there.) And finally l.e.os dont write l.e.os. no matter what!

Oh, by the way, that idiotic, juvenile sounding cadence that we marines so embarassingly(or in my case proudly) boast, its a marine thing, you wouldn't know anything about it. :twisted:

AS YOU WERE!!!!!

Thank you for the compliment, troglodyte! whao, i've never been called that before. Did you think of that yourself. I am impressed. Sorry but I like A**HOLE better. :twisted:

As for you keen observation of the rules of puctuation and grammar skills that I posses, thats exactly what my 2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11,12 grade teacher told me too. But you are correct, no need for those skills to write citation(simpleton - if you think thats all I do.) or to shoot a rifle. Remember what marine stands for Muscle Are Required Intelligence Not Essential. :lol: :twisted: Stanley Kubrick rules.

And how can you write about respect, courtesy and professionalism when you, my teacher, cannot even respect the a branch of the military which is out there fighting a war,(wether its justified of not-while) while you are over here talking that trash. Nor respect another department and it members who have nothing to do with the actions of a handful of morons. Sir the only idiotic, juvenile sound, is your repeaditive whining.

And you claim you are sick of reading justification for the troopers action. You just dont want to here the other side of the story. Remember a mind is like a parachute, if its closed it dosen't work. A couple of things that I agree with you is that, yes the kid dosen't have the common sense god gave a jack ass. Yes, this dept. has a bunch of "your on my highway boy" attitude that is just sickning.(n.florida statement-i would even get a ticket up there.) And finally l.e.os dont write l.e.os. no matter what!

Oh, by the way, that idiotic, juvenile sounding cadence that we marines so embarassingly(or in my case proudly) boast, its a marine thing, you wouldn't know anything about it. :twisted:

AS YOU WERE!!!!!

Due to your comments on the post above this one I quoted it sounds like you are Trooper Frye himself, I'm not saying you are but it sure sounds like.

Regardless, you sound like a rookie who is out to save the world and thinks more of his job and himself than you should. You think you are doing a great service to society and although your job is needed, you do not have the affect on people you think you do.

I personally would not care what the other side of your story would be, the ONLY way I would cite another LEO from any department including yours was if my supervisor ordered me to. Which would never happen.

Your a kid, you need to slow down and take a few breaths and listen to what your veteren officers have to say to you. You've made alot of enemies and you only get 1 first impression. From now on, instead of trying to justify what you did to your fellow BROTHERS who will never go for it, you need to show (not say) how you have changed.

I have talked to several troopers about the Airport Cop getting cited and NONE of them agreed with you (if you are trooper frye). All of them in different words swore up and down they would not have handled the situation differently, all without a citation.

So look around at your comrades and think again of how you can display better judgement next time. The more defensive you get, the worse you look.

Being a State Trooper I understand how you all feel. The trooper made a judgement call, which turned out to be a really big mistake. How do you all know he was not recently ticketed by the other agency? How do you all know that he did not have a bad taste in his mouth from this agency for something that hapened in the past? I do not have this information, I am just looking at this from the outside. I agree with most of the opinions, we generally do not write other cops. Over the last 16 yrs, I have had to put 2 other LEO'S in Jail for DUI, not the most comfortable position, but it was business. I would make the same choice today.
I think calling for this trooper to quit is a little harsh. I really don't think he did it with any malice. Bottom line is he made a mistake, move on, there will be another bone head play somewhere else in the State/Country that will over shadow this one anyway!

My thoughts!

TC,
You are correct but I think this takes the cake. I don't blame the entire FHP. We are all supposed to look out for eachother. I hope the 2 cops you locked up for DUI were at least involved in a MVA if not a ride home was in order. This was a LT going to see his dying son this is unforgiveable. Be safe everyone there is nobody looking out for us so we got to look out for eachother.

I will give all of you guys who fail to give courtesy a quick education. Remember, the cops you write have summonses too. I am sure all of you live at a place other than the Barracks and probably drive to work.

Some day and by the good grace of God, you will be stopped, you will show your ID since its SOP and being the hypocrites that you are, you will try to wiggle your way out of it.. Bamm, you will get whats coming to you.

I've been doing this 18 years and have been disrespected twice. Once by a local who thought his summonses carry more weight than mine and suffered the consequences. The next time was just a few days ago..

Although I wasnt written and appreciate that in and of itself, I was berated and forced to sit on the side of the road for 20 minutes by a guy who had less than 5 years on the job and had the balls to wear a 9-11 pin he didnt earn. I left with a written warning, had the tables been turned he would have left with a handshake..

Its something I would never do to a fellow LEO and you guys from Florida HP should be placed on notice.. Yes, nobody is above the law, but remember this:

Your name is at the bottom of the ticket during your tour, but it sucks when your name is on the top after your tour..

Stay safe and stop being d!cks..

I could not have stated it more accurately. I failed to mention the "beratement" that Troopers love to subject other LEOs to. I'd almost prefer the citation than listen to the sanctimonious swine.

The most dangerous type of individual is an idealist. An idealist who is worldy inexperienced, undereducated, and vastly intellectually underdeveloped. Case in point - most FHP troopers. The perniciousness lies in the fact that they actually believe in what they are preaching - as promulgated by the idiots that run their academies. They are simply unable to think outside the box, or for themselves for that matter. Just refer to the imbecile marine who's previous postings substantiate this fact.

I have been told first hand by a Trooper that the misguided idea of superiority to other LEOS is taught in the academy and that professional courtesy is not to be offered. I don't think most FHP personnel want that information to be publicized.

I am well aware that there are many noble Troopers. However, they are responsible for keeping their brethren in check.

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Herb, I can only speak for my experience at the FHP academy. Other troopers may have had instructors who did thing different. I agree that the instructors promote the idea that troopers are better than other cops. From the first day we were told that we were “the cream of the crop.” When we ran, we had to keep cadence when we did (like the military). There was one that I remember that refers to “fat, lazy deputies.” I personally agree with you that this practice is a bad attempt by FHP to establish esprit de corps. In my opinion it may cause troopers to take more pride in the patrol but does so at the cost of not teaching them the importance of good relationships with brother and sisters in law enforcement at other agencies. Having said that, I would like to applaud the FHP Lieutenant that taught our RADAR class. He told us (in class) that he of course could not teach us discretion however in his experience that he does not write cops and believes that it should not be done.

I believe that the FHP et al. should express to their cadets the importance of a healthy relationship between agencies. Lets be real here, Troopers are like any other cop or LEO out there, we are all trained and then released to do the Govt's dirty work.

If a trooper believes he is better than another officer he is sorely mistaken. I did speed enforcement for 3 years and its boring after a while. Even with the exciting stuff that happens on occasion. Writing tickets and hiding behind billboards isnt rocket science people. Even if your instructors pump you full of bull..

Save the tickets and the speeches for the skells..

Shame on you Officer Burgos, you are a Follower.. Not a leader..

AS FAR AS I CAN REMEMBER FHP HAS BEEN THAT WAY. ESPECIALLY UP IN NORTHERN FL. MY FRIEND IS A FL. STATE TROOPER AND WAS PULLED OVER IN NORTHERN FL. BY HIS OWN AND WAS TICKETED. THEY WILL NEVER HAVE THAT BROTHERHOOD. I HAVE NEVER WRITTEN AN OFFICER AND HAVE PULLED OVER A FEW, INCLUDING FHP. WE PUT UP WITH TO MUCH TO WORRY ABOUT A COP SPEEDING. WHAT DO YOU GET OUT OF IT. PEOPLE LIKE THAT ARE THE ONES THAT HAVE HEART ATTACKS. THEY TAKE THE JOB PERSONAL. ITS A SHAME.

First of all, my questions is - WHY DID HE LET HIM DRIVE UNDER THOSE CONDITIONS ONCE HE STOPPED HIM ?

He should have put him in his police car and drove him on an emergency signal to the hospital. He could have done a fellow officer a HUGE favor, AND if he didn't believe him, he could see for himself if the story was true. The police Lt. probably was not aware of how fast he was going, he was focused on one thing - his son. May God be with him. He could have had another trooper came us to where they let his car and towed it for chirst sakes. I am sure the Lt. would not have minded paying for the tow bill, not to mention the favor

I agree with Herb Sewel other LEOs DO NOT write tickets to other LEOs, period, that supertrooper who talks about the marines more than being a trooper, should have stayed in the corps, or maybe they didn't want him there either.
Any LEO who cites another LEO does not belong in this job.

down in miami all police departments know that fhp is the only department that the troopers take pride in ticketing their own mothers. they are very anal. there is plenty of people speeding in florida for fhp to be ticketing other fellow officers. F.H.P. LEARN TO GIVE LEOS, FIRE FIGHTERS AND MILITARY PEOPLE A BREAK..... UNLESS IS SOMETHING LIKE A D.U.I.

Try spell check. By the way, not all troopers are this way. Just a few. We in the City have the too. The County is worse. They are totally useless.

I have not been on the forum for several months and am just reading about this incident. As a uniform in tan, I want to say that this trooper failed to use good judgment and I have a total loss for words as I write this. I am shaking my head and staring at the keyboard wondering what I could write. I don’t know either party involved but want to extend my condolences to the family for their loss. I can say that I would have used much better judgment than this Trooper did, and hope he has learned something from this incident. God bless you fellow brother and your son. I am so sorry for your loss.

THERE IS A TROOPER THAT WORKS IN MARTIN COUNTY WHO HAS WRITTEN ATLEAST 4 POLICE OFFICERS. NO PROFESSIONAL COURTESY WHATSOEVER. HIS NAME CORPORAL CHAPMAN. HIS EXACT WORDS " THAT I.D. DOESN'T MEAN SH*T HERE ". MAY GOD HAVE MERCY ON YOU. IT'S OK I STILL WILL NEVER WRITE ANOTHER POLICEMAN OR TROOPER A TICKET. IF YOU'RE D.U.I. I'LL DRIVE YOU HOME MYSELF LIKE THE OLD DAYS. DON'T LOSE FOCUS GUYS WE ALL DO THE SAME JOB. PEACE OUT.

Since I won't bring up the Trooper's name, I won't post mine. But I think everybody in Indain River will know who I am talking about.
About two and a half years ago, I was driving a city car, with yellow tag, and city seal to Orlando in order to interview 3 males who were arrested during an armed take over robbery. It was in connection to a string of robberies in Miami and time was of the essence.
Again, on-duty, driving a city car, not taking the kids to Disneyland.
A trooper pulls me over and after I explain to him what's going on, he still strokes the ticket!!!!!!
What's even worse is that his SGT. knew what this trooper was doing.
Guys, quick question. WTF???????
I didn't make an issue of it, but, just a heads up .

By the way, I was doing 13 over the limit, on the turnpike with no cars around .
WOW!!!!!!!

As an LEO I have been ticketed by FHP on Alligator Alley about 4 yrs ago. My wife, also an LEO has been ticketed by FHP. In 12 yrs I have pulled over my share of LEO's for speeding but I have NEVER stroked any of those LEOs. FHP needs to step back and look at the big picture. In todays world, the only people that usually respect LEOs is other LEOs. Most of the public could care less about what happens to us. If we don't have each other or if we can't rely on each other then who can we rely on? Some of these newer guys need to be shown what respect is because if this keeps up, FHP will loose what little respect they have now. Be safe.

RESPECT? Are you nuts! They have none at all. Security guards with arrest powers.

RESPECT? Are you nuts! They have none at all. Security guards with arrest powers.

If you have the balls, which I doubt that you do, say that to the next trooper you happen to encounter. Didnt know you had to stop for a security guard. How about not putting the trooper in the position to have to pull you over in the first place. If I beat the hell out of my wife and the city or county show up, is showing my badge gonna get me a "dont beat her so hard, have a good day". I doubt it. I respect the job that other LEO's do and I know they dont need to bother with me cause Im an off- duty LEO and want to get away with something just because I have a badge. I know, "its an infraction, whats the big deal". The trooper that has to run you down is no diffirent from the officer who runs balls to the wall to any type of crime. :roll:

Well after reading this board, I realize how many of you are just as ignorant as the rest of society. I though most of you were a cut above. All of your comments piss me off so bad. I almost look forward to stopping one or more of you. Especially in the middle of the night on a deserted highway. Your balls are never that big then, Only raisins. I know that your simple minded comments are not that of the entire law enforcement community and that you only mask your identity so that you dont get your ass kicked by the guys you work with, let alone a pissed off trooper. Maybe if you treated others with respect you could earn some for yourself. It's my experience that most of the loud mouths are only 5'6 guys who have names like luis or stephen who have been kicked around thier whole lives. No they were a gun and are all of a sudden bad butts. Well you little napoleon complex having punk, step up next time that trooper stops you and tell him what a bad butt you are, tell him your not signing that silly little traffic ticket, hes not a real cop. Triple A with a badge, security officer, watch what happens. If you dont want a bear to bite you, dont feed him your Bull crap, get off your soap box. Then again dont we wont be able to see you over the rest of the trash.

Too bad I don't know who or what you are. Come over to my city, (which is Miami), and let me stop you. I ain't 5'6" and I'll sure show you the size of my balls! I won't write cops but for you, I might make the exception!

Here's to the two Troopers that are pissed about the latest post. News Flash guys, COPS DON'T WRITE COPS! Brotherhood should mean something to you. Unfortunately you don't think like the rest of us.

I ask only one question. If I'm on duty and I get stopped for speeding in my unmarked car, why would you think that giving a ticket is acceptable? That's plain asinine!

If I refused to sign, You'd really take me to jail? PLEASE!

[Roverman]

Super trooper, or what ever you think you are, by your comments, you just showed what you are, a 'trooper', thats all you will ever be. You just keep on writing other LEO's, you'll never change, keep up your 'Good' work, your turn WILL come, somebody WILL stop you and you WILL be sucking-up to that LEO like it was your daddy!!
PS; Its spelled ...ware a gun... not were a gun. How did you pass your state exam anyway??

And most of the troopers are named Bubba. I haven't seen that many big, bad-ass troopers come into my station when they need a place to complete their DUI's. Maybe they stay up north and down here we get the little twerps who have to write LEOs to show how bad they are. We are always willing to help our fellow LEOs out when the need arises. We have done it and will continue to do it. We just ask that you remember that when you stop a fellow LEO. I don't even care about the ticket. I make enough not to have to worry about that. But I don't need a sermon from a trooper. If you're gonna write it, write it and shut the f--- up.

No where did I say, I have written another LEO, however in 20 years of dedicated service to an agency, I personally feel is one of the best in the nation, I have on ocassion stopped several LEO's, Federal Agents, SO Deputies and City Cops. I have stopped some of them with the worst attidudes, I have ever seen displayed by another officer. Like I should have been able to tell at 90 MPH that the Cadi Escalade with the limo tint contained a Police Officer. How dare I stop him. Not to mention I had to go 115 to catch him. So when this arrogant ass presumes he is above the law, and lets his mouth over ride is ass, he is down right close to getting written. Each situation is different and the variable is the officer's attitude getting stopped. As I mentioned, the attitudes displayed on this board makes me ashamed to be part of this law enforcement commuity. No one said when they handed you that badge that it made you better than everyone else, it actually gave you responsiblity to hold yourself to a higher standard. This standard must be lacking with some of your respective agencies. As for Big balls from Miami you may not be 5'6, and you may feel you have big balls, but that is not what makes the man. Even if you were 6'5, 275 LBS I would not be shaking in my shoes, Doesn't come with job title. I worked in Miami for most of my career and seen what your department has gone through in over 20 years. You have room to talk, every agency has a few that just don't get. You weren't on the river that night were you?. Or maybe you help beat Mercado down. Sorry I forgot you have only been on job a few months and think you earned an entire life time of respect. If your a really a good officer than I apologize for my comments, if not then deal with it. To the good men and women in blue, tan, and green and white, I respect what you do, just respect what we do and go easy on a kid that made a stupid rookie mistake and let it ride.

Wow. I work for the city and was feeling a little offended at being insulted by another LEO then I thought, "He's not a LEO he's a trooper". Now I feel better.

[Roverman]

That supertrooper sounds like a "Baker"!!!!

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as far as that last statement made...thats just ignorant...i feel we all do the same job and are in just as much danger....i've been spared by troopers before...and i do not think they are any less cops than any other leo's....its not about cops being better than everyone, its about letting your BROTHER slide on a stupid mistake...its why we have discretion...but its up to us to not be @$$ holes when we get pulled over...like someone said earlier, when you see someone flying by at 90 its hard to tell through the tints its a brother cop....

the other night some broward yahoo followed me around for 5 minutes and flagged me down in a drug neighborhood...when i came out of the car flying with my gun half out he cried out "put it away i'm a cop too" i asked him why the hell he was following me...turns out he didn't like the way a fellow officer asked him what he was doing parked in front of a dope hole at 3 am.....after a few words he got a have a nice day drive safely...moral of the story...where i should have taken this idiot down at gunpoint and called his supervisor and F/I'd his A$$... i let him get on his merry way because eventhough he's an idiot, he's a brother in blue...or whatever they wear up there :wink: its why we have discretion guys....sorry to take up so much time....PZ

He was probably trying to score some crack. Sounds fishy to me. You should have checked a little harder. Maybe I'm suspicious but this job does that to you. It's not like we dont get a few bad apples. Don't mind helping a fellow LEO but I close my eyes to criminal activity. I wasn't there so I wont second guess you, enough people do that, just read this msg board. peace.

Super trooper, or what ever you think you are, by your comments, you just showed what you are, a 'trooper', thats all you will ever be. You just keep on writing other LEO's, you'll never change, keep up your 'Good' work, your turn WILL come, somebody WILL stop you and you WILL be sucking-up to that LEO like it was your daddy!!
PS; Its spelled ...ware a gun... not were a gun. How did you pass your state exam anyway??

Hey Roverman you dumbass, its spelled "wear a gun"....not ware a gun.
How did you pass your state exam?
Im proud to be Florida's Finest, thats all I ever wanted to be! Im more than qualified to be hired to do your job. Can you say the same for my job? I didnt think so.

Qualified to do your job? I can teach a chimpanzee to write a ticket.

Qualified to do your job? I can teach a chimpanzee to write a ticket.

But can you teach him to spell?

Wow. I work for the city and was feeling a little offended at being insulted by another LEO then I thought, "He's not a LEO he's a trooper". Now I feel better.

I dont know how long you have been on, but when Hurricane Adrew hit Miami, I was one of the first to respond from another part of the state. When I got there I was surprised to see how many of the people that started the FHP Academy with me that washed out for diffirent reasons were now Miami City or Metro Officers. Were you one of those people? Is that why you are on this site to bad mouth troopers? Doesnt your Department have its share of problems? Do I as a trooper log onto your Dept. site and bad mouth your agency? I could care less what your Dept. does. Why do you care what goes on in FHP?

I could care less what your Dept. does. Why do you care what goes on in FHP?

Because you idiots write cops!

Keep up the good posts SuperTrooper...it really irks these so called "real cops!" Half of them couldn't get through our application process...let alone a real academy (which is away from home for them...and more than a couple of months at the local community college). Many slid through the hiring process and soft training and they know why. For too many of the other half...this job is their identity...and it offends them to be confronted and exposed. Especially when their doing something stupid....like driving like idiots. Wanna speed? I mean 20+mph over...do it in your own jurisdiction...not somebody elses. What else are these guys letting slide by under the disguise of "professional courtesy?" Some of these illustrious agencies in South Florida really have great reputations...first class in the public's eye...NOT! Many of you guys look real fit and sharp in uniform...nice used patrol cars and great baseball caps too! Research history and read the newspapers...look at the notorious histories they have...should I get graphic, go into detail and get specific? River Cops...Collars for Dollars...etc. etc. What a joke...actually embarrassments! Let them do their job (barking dog calls, audible alarms, domesitcs and breaking up bar fights with the best of our society..etc. etc.) and we'll do ours. What world do these guys live in? Not one of normal, educated, decent family people with ethics and responsibility. This post is NOT intended to offend the far greater percentage of honest and hard working LEOs everywhere...especially the ones in South Florida who carry out their duties with character and integrity. As fellow LEOs we appreicate and respect you very much! To these clowns with their rediculous posts...look at yourself in the mirror...get some counseling for that insecurity and little man complex and toughen up! Ohh, and by the way...slow down, drive safely and have a nice day!

First of all on behalf of the Florida Highway Patrol, i'd like to extend my symphathy to the family of Officer Bello. It is a tragic and senseless death.

Ive read all the posts pertaining to this incident and I must say im really not surprised. Everyone is always quick to criticize FHP for writing cops. The bottom line is that every department has cops that have no problem writing other cops tickets. This particular scenario was very unfortunate. Whether or not the trooper exercised bad judgement, when he did find out that the Lt's story was true, the citation was voided. Did any of you stop to think that there might be more to the story then what u read in the newspaper? Do you think the media has all the facts? Did the media interview the trooper to ask him what his thought process was? Ofcourse not.. They put a quote in the paper from a Lt. Col. in Tallahassee who only knows the minimal facts surrounding the incident. From what i have heard, the trooper asked dispatch to find out whether or not there were any crashes involving a Miami-Dade Officer. The response was no. While the trooper had the Lt. stopped, 3 or 4 vehicles stopped to advise the trooper that the Lt. was running people off the road and driving like a maniac. The ticket was written on the basis that the Lt. might be less then truthful about why he was driving in such a reckless mannor. When the trooper found out that the story was in fact true, he did the right thing by voiding the citation. PLease let this rest.
Sarge,
This is not an isolated incident. We all know the countless times that FHP has been writing fellow cops tickets. I even know some FHP troopers that have been written up by their own. Pretty sad. Who was that B/F that wrote every cop that she could back in the early 90's?I'm not trying to knock FHP as I have some very good friends there. Most are really great professional cops! I've been in police work for 25 years. I've seen it all. I've clocked them at 90 and I've even had FHP troopers sent home in taxi's as they were .20. Never have, never will write them a ticket, unless they run their mouth. They never have. Take Care!

you guys are beating the hell out of a dead horse. alot of dept. has a tool that writes cops. :oops: yes what the trooper did is wrong, it was his call, a bad one, but it was his. what is done is done. the citation was taken care of the same day, and the problem was resolved. but simple fact of the matter is you fhp bashers got alot of testicular fortitued sitting on the computer in the comfort of your homes or at work( are you suppose to be online at work?), if your really that bent out of shape about the situation go up to a trooper and talk your trash to their face or in this case to burgos face, you just might get rid of all that anger you got stored up in you and also a size 10 where the sun dont shine. you cant lable all of the fhp troopers out there that bust there arse everyday just because one made a bad call. i guess all of you are perfect l.e.o's that are talking all this mad smack. never messed up in the lifetime of your careers. the real hypocrites here are all of you perfect officers. why dont you gods of perfection got out and do your jobs and rid world of crime instead of sitting here and bashing an great angency. if you guys fight crime as good as you talk smack it would be a crime free society. another thing, if you guys where, as you claim brothers, you would accept the fact that the kid messed up and go on with your life. is that not what you do when a younger sibling, son, daughter makes a mistake. check yourselves before you talk you smack. some brothers. and yes i am a FLORIDA STATE TROOPER. :twisted: :twisted:

PLEASE,

You know that this is not a one time deal. This practice of writing other cops has gone on as long as I can remember. Troopers even write other troopers. With that in mind, yes, most of you are great PO's and we are your brothers. We will back you up and do what it takes so that we all get home to our families. These posts are intended for the few, unfortunetly all suffer.

Being a State Trooper I understand how you all feel. The trooper made a judgement call, which turned out to be a really big mistake. How do you all know he was not recently ticketed by the other agency? How do you all know that he did not have a bad taste in his mouth from this agency for something that hapened in the past? I do not have this information, I am just looking at this from the outside. I agree with most of the opinions, we generally do not write other cops. Over the last 16 yrs, I have had to put 2 other LEO'S in Jail for DUI, not the most comfortable position, but it was business. I would make the same choice today.
I think calling for this trooper to quit is a little harsh. I really don't think he did it with any malice. Bottom line is he made a mistake, move on, there will be another bone head play somewhere else in the State/Country that will over shadow this one anyway!

My thoughts!

That's the difference between your dept and others. You wrote that you had to place two other LEO's in jail for DUI's? "It's a business.". If I placed all the FHP troopesr in jail for DUI, instead of sending them home in Taxi's, I'd have a "great business." Sorry TC, I don't treat these actions as a business. You never know, perhaps you might get pulled over and blow a .9 for those two beers that you drank and get arrested. When all the cop had to do is send you home in a cab.

Trooper Burgos, you are SCUM. You are a meter maid with a gun who will never know what it feels like to be a man in blue. Troopers have done alot of wrong to other LEOs but I still will never write one of you guys. First of all I only wrote tickets when I was a rookie now I got better things to do especially working in a place like Miami. I cannot imagine having your miserable job but don't take it out on us.. By the way we got a bunch of troopers come to our department and the majority are a bunch of balless *******s that are scared to take any command decisions and are scared of there supervisoin. I don't trust them as far as I could throw them and I know they would turn on me in a second if they were put on the hot seat. It must be there academy training. Good luck with your pitiful job doing the same thing for the next twenty years.
YOU CLOWN IN BROWN.

This thread is quickly becoming very nasty. I work for the city and if I speed in my personal car I understand that I might get a ticket. I would appreciate it if I didn't, but I know I might. No problem with that. But this isn't the same thing. A Lieutenant on the way to the hospital to be with his son, who is also a PO, after he was involved in a life-threatening crash? I wouldn't write a civilian for that, much less another cop. For those of that know Lt. Bello personally this has become a very personal, and sensitive, subject. Lt Bello was a person who would do anything for anyone. Hopefully, he will be that person again. Know both sides have begun with the name calling, and the we're better than you arguments. We have a few POs here that have been Troopers before and they are good guys. Troopers come into our stations often to process DUIs. And if they ever need anything we will be there. No matter what. Some people just need a little time to pass. Whenever you feel the need to write something ugly (both sides) just take a minute, relax, and consider your situation could be a lot worse.

Trooper Burgos, you are SCUM. You are a meter maid with a gun who will never know what it feels like to be a man in blue. Troopers have done alot of wrong to other LEOs but I still will never write one of you guys. First of all I only wrote tickets when I was a rookie now I got better things to do especially working in a place like Miami. I cannot imagine having your miserable job but don't take it out on us.. By the way we got a bunch of troopers come to our department and the majority are a bunch of balless *******s that are scared to take any command decisions and are scared of there supervisoin. I don't trust them as far as I could throw them and I know they would turn on me in a second if they were put on the hot seat. It must be there academy training. Good luck with your pitiful job doing the same thing for the next twenty years.
YOU CLOWN IN BROWN.

You should be ashamed of yourself. You are an embaressment to the profession and no backup I want on my scene. Your proud that you havent written a ticket in years? Your proud to be a lazy and ineffective officer. Grow up, you and your kind continue to give the rest of us a bad name.

The guy effed up, big time. He shoulda gotten on the radio and tried to verify Lt's story, he didnt, now the guy probably feels as guilty as he could. Back off the guy. You never made a mistake??? You never fu*ked up?? These rediculous shameful posts do nothing but continue the bad blood.

I for one dont have even the slightest problem with troopers. I've helped them out of jams and they have helped me. The way we are supposed to. We are all certified LEO's, its just what we wear, and where we work that makes the difference.

Unless its criminal, I for one will continue to support anybody who wears the uniform no matter where they work.

Guys I apologize on behalf of some of the more "Ignorant" of these supposed officers that are posting. I assure you they DO NOT represent my dept as a whole. Keep up the good work and I'll try to keep it under 80 (its tough)on I75.

Da grunt :evil:

THE GRUNT IS RIGHT!!!!!!!! THOSE WRITING THOSE SHAMEFUL REMARKS ABOUT "ALL TROOPERS",ARE PLAIN ANGRY OR IGNORANT! BURGOS MADE A ROOKIE MISTAKE AND HE HAS BEEN PUNISHED ENOUGH! LETS CUT THE KID SOME SLACK!!!!!!!

BEING A MIAMI COP AND A BROTHER TO ARMANDO BELLO,I WAS DEEPLY OFFENDED BUT NOW WE MUST MOVE FORWARD AND LET HIS SON RIP AND BURGOS TOO!

TROOPERS KNOW HOW WE ALL FEEL AND HOPEFULLY WILL CONSIDER GIVING US THE SAME PROFESSIONAL COURTESY THAT WE EXTEND TO THEM!
I HAVE BEEN STOPPED BY TROOPERS IN AND OUTSIDE OF DADE AND DUE TO MY PROFESSIONAL DEMEANER,HAVE ALWAYS BEEN GIVEN A BREAK! CHECK YOURSELVES!!!!!!!!!!!!
I WOULD NEVER GIVE ANY COP A TIX,PERIOD! BUT WE HAVE SOME TOOLS IN OUR DEPARTMENT TOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
TROOPERS ARE WELCOMED AT MPD SOUTH!

THE WORST PART OF ALL OF THIS IS THAT WHEN YOU GUYS NEED BACK UP, WE (CITY PO'S) ARE THE FIRST ONES THERE. I HAVE STOPPED MY SHARE OF TROOPERS & FAMILY MEMBERS AND I ALWAYS DO THE SAME "HAVE A NICE DAY"! GUYS WE ARE IN THIS TOGETHER IT DOESNT MATTER WHAT COLOR OF UNIFORM WE WEAR. WE SHOULD ALL BE BROTHERS AND SISTERS.

[Roverman]

You are both right, Miamipo, 33me. Also, Disgusted, you were also right, it is spelled 'Wear' not ware.
Why is it that alot of Troopers do wright other LEOs??

Come on guys. By what I read the Tropper used bad judgment and he tried to correct it. It is a sad and unfortunate case but give the guy a break. He knows he screwed up. We have all made bad decisions at one time or another I know officers in Miami who will write their own mother a ticket. We don't want to start a war with any fellow agencies. We can't judge all for the actions of few. I know FHP has a rap of writing fellow P.O.'s but my wife and I have been stopped by Troopers and they have let us slide. By the same token I have stopped off duty Troopers, C.O.s, P.O.s, and Deputies and I have never written any one of them a ticket.

I also want to extend my sincere thanks to Trooper LOLA who during the last hurricane came to my house with a brigade of fellow Troopers to bring us ice, MRE's, and water. Thank you Lola and his fellow Troopers.

Mike Vega
Miami Police
Motors Unit
Unit 887

You are both right, Miamipo, 33me. Also, Disgusted, you were also right, it is spelled 'Wear' not ware.
Why is it that alot of Troopers do wright other LEOs??

Roverman, I dont know. I dont write other LEO's. There are 1800 troopers in this state and I know that 99.9% of them dont write other LEO's. There are always a few that dont seem to have any common sense and give us all the reputation of stroking anything we stop, but Im sure that every Dept. has them these days in one form or another. There seems to be a diffirent breed of cops coming out of the academy these days. Maybe its a sign of the times.

FED UP...you're a typical City punk and a keyboard coward. Your jursidiction is the toilet of humanity. You're a fraud...a "real cop"...pleeeaaasssse, who do you think you are kidding? Drive carefully Lil Officer Machismo...and remember to press hard, you'll be making 4 copies.

This whole thing is CRAP! Knock it off already

Disgusted, thats fair enough. Thanks. Stay safe.

Shut the **** up already...

Hey Ghetto cop,
I see you buttkissing has no limits and has no boundaries. You even come here to kiss the arse of the ones who write us. Will you ever pick a side. That's the new breed for you. NO BALLS!!!!

You all b**ch and moan like a bunch of school girls.

Bottom line is FHP, although they have some decent folks working for them, are nothing but AAA with a badge. If their call is not traffic related, they are completely lost. I work for an agency, who has to constantly X94 for them (due to understaffing), and they never cease to amaze us. I have several examples where they showed up to a real call (burglary in progress, etc) and they caused more harm then good. The extra boot camp training they get obviously doesn't advise them how to work anything but traffic. If you live around this area, you might remember the clown trooper that pulled over a city officer, who was X18 (lights & siren) going to a call in her marked cruiser. The trooper was threatened with being arrested for obstruction before he let the officer go. I can assure you that I extend more professional courtesy than most, but I also know which troopers will write your wife for a chicken crap reason. Beware because we know who you folks are and no courtesy will be extended if that is the way your going to conduct your business. To everyone else, be safe out there.

Your full of it AAA first of if she was running 10-18, she wouldn't have stopped for the trooper. Let alone stand around and fight with him about a cite. I call bullshit. Stop stirring the pot.

Yeah im thinking its crap too, I wouldn't stop for an idiot trying to pull me over even if I WASN'T 10-18 if I was in a marked cruiser.

And if i did pull over there'd be more hell than just a little bit if the putz tried to enforce some traffic law on me.

[MOD 310]

OK, I can actually set the record straight on this one. The city officer (Tampa) was on TRT and got called out to a stand off in the county (mutual aid with the county for such). The city officer was legitimately running 10-18 in the county away from his jurisdiction (Brandon, to assist the county TRT). The trooper was wondering why a city car would be 10-18 in the county away from that city so he tried to stop the city officer to find out why. The city officer kept going but eventually stopped. I asked him myself why did he actually stop if he was legit running 10-18 and he said “I thought the trooper was gonna tell me I left some gear on the trunk because I did leave the house in a rush when I got called out.” Anyway, at some point the trooper figured out that it was legit and the city guy was back 10-51 10-18 again.

I did know FHP was the mutual aid Police. Also didn't the trooper break his own SOP? chasing a vechicle for a traffic infraction. (which really wasn't a traffic infraction to began with)
I can only imagine if the TPD Officer was 10-18 he was going the speed limit. He might have even been a little signal 20. Why would the Trooper chase him? WHATS REALLY GOING ON HEAR?

stopping a 10-18 police car. you guys ARE morons. I take back anything I said good about you.


P.S. Mod 310 you're overstepping your bounds you've been deleting uneccesarily, give the job to someone else, you obviously can't do it properly.

1st off, thanks to the Mod for being the only upstanding person to confirm the pulling over of a X18 cruiser. To the other bozo troopers, who said this was bull, well i'm sure you knew the truth but were ashamed to admit it. For every decent trooper, there are 10 others who think they own the state of Florida. Trust me there is a reason you only work traffic. If your agency keeps pissing off other LEO depts and citizens, they will consider disbanding your dept and you guys will be meter maids or toll collecters somewhere. It's bad enough they just did a news story about the lack of DREs in your agency, stating no troopers want to get the extra training needed to get certified. I smell liablity issues.

Head Fu*k head, whats the reason we only do trafic?? Please do tell!! Does your brain ever think for a moment thats what we chose to do in life. I take pride in working the interstate and working crashes, stopping all the AS* clowns that are 100+ down the road, making it unsafe for my family and yours. You would be first one to bi*ch when a car flew by you on 275 in your pov, and say god wish FHP was working out here. Guess what I am and thats my chosen job, by choice!!! I dont need to be a DRE, to do my job, neither does anyone esle. I dont own the state of florida and never thought I did. I'm not afarid to ask police officers or Dep. for help, in things that I don't normaly deal with you, and thats what you chose to do, so you will know better then I will, and never try to turn something over to them. I opened the can, I will finish it. Most of us in fact will ask when TPD or HCSO is responding somewhere, for Radio to found out where they are going. In hopes that we can help or provide some asst to you or them, to get away from the everyday traffic. I have many friends that work at these agencies and love going to calls with them to learn something besides traffic, that I gather you hate. So just walk away with this, next time I see TPD or HCSO that is in marked vehicle at 95+ on 275,75,597,US41,SR54 and all the others, I will wave and hope they get home safe (we know shift change times) We all know each others, there no surprise. and next time I stop one in a pov. I will do what I always do and say " have a great day." " Be safe, brother."--take care

Head Fu*k head, whats the reason we only do trafic?? Please do tell!! Does your brain ever think for a moment thats what we chose to do in life. I take pride in working the interstate and working crashes, stopping all the AS* clowns that are 100+ down the road, making it unsafe for my family and yours. You would be first one to bi*ch when a car flew by you on 275 in your pov, and say god wish FHP was working out here. Guess what I am and thats my chosen job, by choice!!! I dont need to be a DRE, to do my job, neither does anyone esle. I dont own the state of florida and never thought I did. I'm not afarid to ask police officers or Dep. for help, in things that I don't normaly deal with you, and thats what you chose to do, so you will know better then I will, and never try to turn something over to them. I opened the can, I will finish it. Most of us in fact will ask when TPD or HCSO is responding somewhere, for Radio to found out where they are going. In hopes that we can help or provide some asst to you or them, to get away from the everyday traffic. I have many friends that work at these agencies and love going to calls with them to learn something besides traffic, that I gather you hate. So just walk away with this, next time I see TPD or HCSO that is in marked vehicle at 95+ on 275,75,597,US41,SR54 and all the others, I will wave and hope they get home safe (we know shift change times) We all know each others, there no surprise. and next time I stop one in a pov. I will do what I always do and say " have a great day." " Be safe, brother."--take care Clap,Clap,Clap..Well put! A little heated but well deserved, Be Safe My Brother...

Hi -

I'm the one who started the thread "How are FHP resources being used in Hillsborough County." I talked about my frustration at being passed on the Interstates by people driving 90 to 100 mph and weaving from the far left lane to the far right lane (and back again) with seeming impunity.

I'm the guy you usually see driving in the middle lane of the three lane Interstates at about 75 to 78 mph, passing the folks on the right who are peddling along at about 65 to 69 (or slower) and letting the road warriors who habitually drive 85 to 95 pass me on the right.

I APPRECIATE C/Trooper and all the others in tan who are out there enforcing the traffic laws on the Interstate and I think it is downright stupid for city officers and county deputies to engage in these unending insults about whose job is more important or who is a "real" LEO and who isn't.

I UNDERSTAND the resentment when a LEO gets a ticket from an FHP trooper - BUT THIS IS A SEPARATE ISSUE from whose job is important and whose isn't. Quit confusing the two! Demeaning the assignment of troopers is childish.

As a retired LEO I would hope that if I were stopped for committing a minor traffic violation I might receive professional courtesy. I don't count on it. Frankly, I wouldn't expect professional courtesy if I habitually ran 20 over the posted limit even if I were still an active LEO. And, no - I never wrote a LEO for a traffic violation. And, yes - I do believe in discretion and the broad use of professional courtesy - for active LEOs and for retirees. :wink:

My point is that resentment about FHP troopers writing tickets to fellow LEOs for traffic violations has a legitimate basis in most cases but in discussing that issue it is demeaning and degrading (and off the point) to simply heap insult upon insult in an irrelevant discussion about whose job is important and whose isn't.

Traffic enforcement IS important! As a frequent user of the Interstates it is important to ME!

So, C/Trooper, you and your fellow troopers keep up the good work. I certainly appreciate it every time I see you have a violator stopped on the roadside. And, yes, although retired I still look closely at every roadside stop to see if there is a problem and if I might be needed to give assistance.



:D

I agree with the last post, the petty bickering is wrong. Traffic Enforcement is extremely important and I have not been pulled over off duty since 1991 because I try to obey all the laws. But to come off with the F-bomb and act like a spoiled child is wrong. If you really think DREs are not imprtant or needed, you really need to find a new profession. I have been on the job for many years and used the assistance of a certified DRE on several occassions. PCSO helped out with a on call DRE, who made a solid case for me, which took a drugged up a-hole off the streets for some time. For you to say DREs are not needed, is mind boggling and is the main reason the press is bashing you guys. The training is free and will help you do your job better, but no one wants to sacrifice their time to do this?? You say your intent is to keep the highways safe for our families, but you guys refuse to get certified because what?? What if God forbid your family got involved in a crash with someone under the influence of a drug that standard officers/troopers could not detect correctly. Would you hope a DRE was available to assist?? Of course you would. The news article tore your agency up because the trooper had no DRE training and he just pencil whipped the form stating "no alcohol or drug use", even after an ER Dr stated she was wacked on coke. The results speak for themselves. If all you guys do is traffic, then train to the fullest. That was the basis for this post. I treat every LEO like they were my flesh and blood, but sometimes you gotta cut of the family.. Lets bridge the gap, not extend it. Be safe

Ok, f bomb was wrong, However I'm so sick of this all out war it seems with FHP. This is the most visited page of this entire website. I try to do my job, and try to do it to the best of my abilities. Even if it's going to calls with another departments, to learn something else. DRE, The website makes it sound like you need to be one in order to do your job, and you don't. I have used our DRE, and got a total plea of guilty during his court time. I know it works and is needed, however getting what you want out of the state is not a easy task. The state is working on the DRE problem, as normal they wait till it causes a problem, to fix it. Wish they would fix the pay problems, which have been a problem for many, many years. There are close to 1700 Troopers working the road. And of course there is a few that don't have a clue and never will. I don't write LEO's and never will. Which I'm sure the others agree, some are high and mighty and full of piss and fire. Sorry for trouble, just tired of the bashing and bull crap that gets written on here about my job. Every department has these people that pencil whip it and dont look back, that will never change, and apparently there is some in south FL!! So I have read...lol Take Care "AAA" and everyone else

Burgos was the straw that broke the camel’s back. The bottom line is that for decades Troopers have felt an insasable need to write other officer. In fact Northern troopers have written Southern Troopers. This is for the few who make all of you FHP guys look bad “You guys are sick, get help.

I feel sorry for the great majority of Troopers that have to be apologizing for your hateful behavior.

It’s not going to stop. Officer will continue to come to this board and vent 30 years of frustration with you guys.

FHP pulls over marked unit T18 for TRT callout, LOL. How bout getting on the radio and having them contact TPD communications to find out why, instead of trying to go S50 on him/her.

Whoever you are, you have my nomination to take the thrown from Burgos.

Most of you have my respect. There are idiots on every agency, but it seems you guys and gals have some common sense issues.

Can I ask a question?

If the majority of the FHP Troopers honor professional courtesy why don't you guys use this board to talk to the others who write cops? In Pasco Trooper Williams and in Hillsborough Trooper King are notorious for writing LEO's. If the voice of FHP would just reach out and touch these guys we could all get along.

On the same note, I encourage all my fellow brother and sister LEO's to keep your speed under 80 mph out of respect for FHP and other police agencies.

Lets start respecting each other! That's why the "Thin Blue Line" was created.

God bless and BE SAFE!

How about Officers/Deputies etc stop speeding off duty and risking their lives and others on the road, then when they get pulled over they want "professional courtesy". How can you write speeding tickets to civilians, then speed yourself and EXPECT to get away with it, because youve been trained in the academy to drive at high speeds and think you know what your doing?
This is all ridiculous..SPEED KILLS...does not matter who you are what job you have period...if you speed your taking the chance of causing an accident, injuring yourself or others.
Law Enforcement Officers of all kinds take an oath and are supoposed to be held to a higher standard, yet when they mess up they want to get off the hook because their "the law".
Hypocritical if you ask me.
What happens if you pull an off duty officer over for speeding 20 miles over the limit, and let the officer go, then 2 miles down the road the officer causes an accident. ITS ON YOU NOW.
Stop worrying about courtesy and give others on the road courtesy and just dont freaking speed.

This isn't "civilian affairs", so get off the board or shut up!

I work as a DUI/THI unit for my agency on the east side of Polk County. We have total 3 DREs for our agency, lakeland pd I think has 4-5 and Polk Troopers I think have one or two. I personally dont do the DRE, because its a voluntary process the arresting person goes through. It starts with them cooperating. Its the same as if they pee in a cup and I send it off to FDLE.

I appreciate the job Polk Troopers do because our sheriff doesnt realize how many crashes they actually take especially when he's trying to run them out of the county, which I dont think is fair. We only have 20 THI/traffic/DUI deputies. I personally think as much traffic as FHP does deal with, that some of the training and classes offered should be part of their academy. For instances, SFST's and basic THI. Those are important class because troopers still work rotating schedules so they are days, nights, days nights, etc.

I cant say I work with other Troopers from Troop C or Lake/Osceola/Orange a lot because its infrequent in coming in contact with them. Everyone thinks their agency is the worst, but the thing is its the same in every agency, just a different face doing the same problems. You leave one agency and go to another, now you go from no seniority to possibly do something to none. I have worked 9 years with my agency, I gripe about our problems, but I sometimes do nothing about it, which is on my side of err. However, sometimes I've tried to say something and supervision has shot it down. Well the old saying goes, the higher up command you go, the more paperwork happy you become and the more road patrol experience and common sense you lose.

Our attitudes with each other start with supervision and the communication each agency deals with each other. Its funny how our agency can county wide patch with other agencies, but refuse to patch with FHP. If our patrol unit rolls up on a fatal or any crash, they have to work it or call one of us. If a trooper shows up in the mean time, that unit HAS to tell them trooper to leave, because our supervision makes us. I have no problem asking troopers for their help as they have asked for mine whether it be directing traffic or helping with formulas. Its only my opinion, but its mine :)

Can I ask a question?

If the majority of the FHP Troopers honor professional courtesy why don't you guys use this board to talk to the others who write cops? In Pasco Trooper Williams and in Hillsborough Trooper King are notorious for writing LEO's. If the voice of FHP would just reach out and touch these guys we could all get along.

Is anyone gonna answer this guys question? It seems pretty valid.

This isn't "civilian affairs", so get off the board or shut up!

You're right, this isn't Civilian Affairs. It's LEO Affairs and I truly believe you all are stroking and screwing each other. :oops: :oops: :lol: :lol: YOU RAT *******S!!!! STOP PEN WHIPPING YOUR OWN!!!! :twisted: :twisted: :twisted: :twisted:

Take note from PALM BEACH COUNTY :P :P :P 8) 8)

[five0]

elmoe and king? 89th class?

[avt12882]

i have been on plenty of calls with fhp on i75 and i595 and i have never had a problem with any of them. just because one guy really screws up does not mean they are all like that. he made a bad judgement which he voided out, plus it will follow him for the rest of his career.

TROOPERS SUCK AND ARE THE LAUGHING STOCK OF LAW ENFORCEMENT. I THINK THEY SHOULD BE DISBANNED AND CONSOLIDATED WITH AN EQUAL DEPARTMENT.. WAKENHUT SECURITY.. ALL TROOPERS GET BENT

TROOPERS SUCK AND ARE THE LAUGHING STOCK OF LAW ENFORCEMENT. I THINK THEY SHOULD BE DISBANNED AND CONSOLIDATED WITH AN EQUAL DEPARTMENT.. WAKENHUT SECURITY.. ALL TROOPERS GET BENT

Thats a typical post from a Wakenhut Security Guard. Im sure any trooper that knows you probably thinks that you suck too.

Lets leave trooper Burgos and his, ONE BAD JUDGEMENT CALL ,ALONE!!!

FOR CHRIST SAKES,,,,U GUYS CANT FORGIVE THIS KID, EVEN DURING OUR LORDS B-DAY AND THE COMING OF A NEW YEAR?

KID,I FORGAVE YOU MONTHS AGO AND PRAY THAT YOU, AS WELL AS ALL OF US IN THE COMING YR.,HAVE A GREAT,MISTAKE FREE,PROSPEROUS NEW YEAR,,,,,,,,,,MAY THE GRAND ARCHITECT OF THE UNIVERSE SHED HIS LIGHT ON ALL OF US!

WHAT WOULD CHRIST DO? ENOUGH!!!!!!!!!!!
A MASONIC BROTHER OF LT.BELLO AND A MIAMI POLICE OFFICER!

HAPPY,SAFE NEW YR. TO ALL MY BROTHERS AND FELLOW OFFICERS.

Lets leave trooper Burgos and his, ONE BAD JUDGEMENT CALL ,ALONE!!!

FOR CHRIST SAKES,,,,U GUYS CANT FORGIVE THIS KID, EVEN DURING OUR LORDS B-DAY AND THE COMING OF A NEW YEAR?

KID,I FORGAVE YOU MONTHS AGO AND PRAY THAT YOU, AS WELL AS ALL OF US IN THE COMING YR.,HAVE A GREAT,MISTAKE FREE,PROSPEROUS NEW YEAR,,,,,,,,,,MAY THE GRAND ARCHITECT OF THE UNIVERSE SHED HIS LIGHT ON ALL OF US!

WHAT WOULD CHRIST DO? ENOUGH!!!!!!!!!!!
A MASONIC BROTHER OF LT.BELLO AND A MIAMI POLICE OFFICER!

HAPPY,SAFE NEW YR. TO ALL MY BROTHERS AND FELLOW OFFICERS.

Just in case you didn’t notice, the last post was submitted in October. Everyone appears to have moved on; it’s you (IDIOT) who’s still bringing the subject back into play. You must have just gotten internet services for the first time. :oops: :twisted:

IN 20 YEARS ON THE JOB I WROTE ONE LEO UP.BECAUSE HE WAS SO NASTY. HE FORGOT HE WAS DOING 80 IN A35MPH.ONLY TO FIND OUT HE CALLED MY C/O AND HAD ME TRANSFERED TO HIS PCT.WHICH SUCKED SINCE I LIVED IN LONG ISLAND AND WORKED BROOKLYN.SO FOR 10 MONTHS I HAD TO DRIVE TO STATEN ISLAND.I LEARNED MY LESSON REAL QUICK.NYCHPD RETIRED.
THE FHP SHOULD REALLY REVISIT THERE WHOLE WRITING ANY LEO UP.
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LT BELLO I VERY SORRY FOR YOUR LOSE.

MPD,
As a Trooper and a Masonic Brother, I appreciate your reply to this whole situation. I do not know Tpr. Burgos, but, Im sure that he has wished that a warning had been issued instead of a citation. I hear every excuse known to man on the hardroad. I have stopped MANY off-duty P.O.'s for hauling the mail. So far all have been very sorry and held their hat in their hand.

DONT THINK FOR A MINUTE THAT WE HAVE MOVED ON IN SOUTH FLORIDA WITH THE ISSUE OF BURGOS AS SOMEONE STATED ABOVE. HIS DAY WILL COME, WE PUT ASIDE, BUT DONT FORGET.


MPD

That post from an alleged mpd cop is bulls..t..We have forgiven Burgos and only a real a..hole would keep bashing this kid!!
Troopers,u r our brothers in l.e. so please forgive and work with us,{pro. courtesy],thanks.

A REAL MIAMI P.D. COP AND BROTHER! TANANDBLACK,I HAVE YOUR BACK! WIDOWS SON!

Sorry Brother, i am a real Miami Cop, and a friend of Lt. Bello. We have not forgotten. Everytime i see one putting gas at 2 and 1 I LOOK AT HIS NAME TAG. We have not forgotten in any way. He will need the 3-15 someday.

Armando, we will have the day !

I agree there is not reason to write a cop even if he is a complete arse!! iI got a ticket from a Plam Beach Deputy on U.S. 27 . I pulled over when i saw him and the arse still wrotew me after i yes sir ed him to death. I provided my i d badge(sergeant) and d. l after saying " sir i'm a police officer and i have a weapon in the vehicle , what would you like me to do ? " extremly polite an non arugmentative. Then he had the nerve to try and explain the citation to me after i told him i have been on the job for 16 years????? But you know what if he treats cops like that how does he treat the general public.??? now i'm not a violent person ,, but i do believe in kicking a criminals arse , if need be ( ex K9 shit once k9 always K9 and currently swat ops commander) i was actually stopped by 3 troopers that day and was not cited ( i was driving a litte fast 75 -76mph with no traffic and by no means am i trying to justify anything but danm!!!! what i am trying to say is those cops out there that will strokw anoither cop are the ones that constanly destroy the view the public has on us becuase like i said can you emagine how they treat the public. To the deputy that took food out of my child mouth , i an't mad add cha cuase when i signed the citation it thundered and lightedning and you got soaking fff nnn wet you arse!!!!!!!! and if you were in that speed trap on us 27 getting you arse kicked i would still help you jerk!!!

I agree there is not reason to write a cop even if he is a complete arse!! iI got a ticket from a Plam Beach Deputy on U.S. 27 . I pulled over when i saw him and the arse still wrotew me after i yes sir ed him to death. I provided my i d badge(sergeant) and d. l after saying " sir i'm a police officer and i have a weapon in the vehicle , what would you like me to do ? " extremly polite an non arugmentative. Then he had the nerve to try and explain the citation to me after i told him i have been on the job for 16 years????? But you know what if he treats cops like that how does he treat the general public.??? now i'm not a violent person ,, but i do believe in kicking a criminals arse , if need be ( ex K9 shizzat once k9 always K9 and currently swat ops commander) i was actually stopped by 3 troopers that day and was not cited ( i was driving a litte fast 75 -76mph with no traffic and by no means am i trying to justify anything but danm!!!! what i am trying to say is those cops out there that will strokw anoither cop are the ones that constanly destroy the view the public has on us becuase like i said can you emagine how they treat the public. To the deputy that took food out of my child mouth , i an't mad add cha cuase when i signed the citation it thundered and lightedning and you got soaking fff nnn wet you arse!!!!!!!! and if you were in that speed trap on us 27 getting you arse kicked i would still help you jerk!!!

You were stopped a total of 4 times in one day??!?? And my 2nd grader has better spellling skills. I smell a rat here....

Ghet-ghet-ghet-GHETTO!!!


I agree there is not reason to write a cop even if he is a complete arse!! iI got a ticket from a Plam Beach Deputy on U.S. 27 . I pulled over when i saw him and the arse still wrotew me after i yes sir ed him to death. I provided my i d badge(sergeant) and d. l after saying " sir i'm a police officer and i have a weapon in the vehicle , what would you like me to do ? " extremly polite an non arugmentative. Then he had the nerve to try and explain the citation to me after i told him i have been on the job for 16 years????? But you know what if he treats cops like that how does he treat the general public.??? now i'm not a violent person ,, but i do believe in kicking a criminals arse , if need be ( ex K9 shizzat once k9 always K9 and currently swat ops commander) i was actually stopped by 3 troopers that day and was not cited ( i was driving a litte fast 75 -76mph with no traffic and by no means am i trying to justify anything but danm!!!! what i am trying to say is those cops out there that will strokw anoither cop are the ones that constanly destroy the view the public has on us becuase like i said can you emagine how they treat the public. To the deputy that took food out of my child mouth , i an't mad add cha cuase when i signed the citation it thundered and lightedning and you got soaking fff nnn wet you arse!!!!!!!! and if you were in that speed trap on us 27 getting you arse kicked i would still help you jerk!!!

BOTTOM LINE. THERE IS NO REASON TO WRITE ANOTHER COP UNLESS THERE IS AN ACCIDENT OF SOME KIND. YOU COP WRITING JOKERS WILL HAVE NO PROBLEM MEETING YOUR QUOTA WITH THE GENERAL PUBLIC, WITHOUT INCLUDING OTHR COPS IN THE MIX. IF YOUR TICKETING FELLOW LEOS OVER SILLY BULLSH-T, HOPE YOU MEET ONE THAT DOESNT GIVE A DAMN AND GIVES YOU THE ASS WHIPPING YOU DESERVE.

IM A STATE TROOPER IN MIAMI AND WAS TRULY DISGUSTED TO FIND OUT ABOUT THE BURGOS SITUATION. I AM TRULY ASHAMED OF GUYS LIKE THESE THAT UNDERMINE THE WHOLE POLICE BROTHERHOOD.

IN MY YEARS OF LAW ENFORCEMENT, I HAVE NEVER WRITTEN A TICKET TO ANOTHER FELLOW P.O/CORRECTIONS OFFICER. IN FACT, I DONT EVEN WRITE FIREFIGHTERS/NURSES/DOCTORS INCLUDING THEIR SPOUSES.

I THINK WE SHOULD PUT THE BURGOS SITUATION BEHIND US AND ALWAYS REMEMBER THAT ALTHOUGH WE WEAR DIFFERENT UNIFORMS, WE STILL SHARE ONE MISSION.

TO ALL THE P.O READING THIS....ALWAYS BE SAFE BROTHERS! ! ! ! !

""ONCE BLUE...ALWAYS BLUE"" .....POLICE BROTHERHOOD ALL THE WAY!

Amen Trooper that was very well stated!!, God Bless and be safe!!

I THINK MOST OF ALL BRANCHES OF LAW ENFORCEMENT ARE REASONABLE PEOPLE WHO DO EXTEND PROFESSIONAL COURTESY TO ONE ANOTHER. WE ALL KNOW WHO THE HARD-ONS WE WORK WITH ARE. LETS SEE THAT THEY GET RECOGNIZED AND POINTED OUT FOR THE D_CKS THAT THEY ARE.

To the MIAMI TROOPER, I'm a trooper in miami, Troop-E myself & its shameful to have zone partners like u, because u sound like u would back stab ur zone partners. u yourself probably dont even know the entire incident, ur just going off what u heard & read like every other cop thats talking bad about Burgos. I hope i dont know u because in my book ur ain't $h!t. An if I know u i would break all my ties w/u. what if that was ur wife, mother, or sister that he ran off the road would it be ok in u book. i think not.

TROOPER BURGOS,US CRISTIANS,FORGAVE YOUR ERROR MONTHS AGO!
TO THE REST OF YOU,MAY YOUR HEARTS BE FILLED WITH BROTHERLY LOVE FOR ALL COPS,EVEN THE A$$ HOLES WHO WRITE US,,,
HAPPY VALENTINES DAY TO ALL,ESPECIALLY YOU BROTHER BURGOS! NOW LEAVE THIS KID ALONE. THERE ARE WORSE THINGS OUT THERE AND I AM SURE HE HAS LEARNED HIS LESSON!
A FRIEND OF LT. BELLO,
MIAMI P.D. VET.

this goes out to all you Miami River Cop (city of miami). That trooper never asked for ya forgiveness you guys aren't god. You guys are acting like bello is your God, he's just another human being so why is it that you guys are sucking on his balls like he's your savior.

Sir,you are a complete a$$ hole!!You are the reason why troopers are hated!! No empathy and no brotherly love and YOU PROBABLY GO TO CHURCH AND CALL YOURSELF A CHRISTIAN! GOD HELP US!

Sir,you are a complete a$$ hole!!You are the reason why troopers are hated!! No empathy and no brotherly love and YOU PROBABLY GO TO CHURCH AND CALL YOURSELF A CHRISTIAN! GOD HELP US!

Using slang like that and casting judgement on others!! YOU PROBABLY GO TO CHURCH AND CALL YOURSELF A CHRISTIAN! GOD HELP US!

MAN YOU GUYS DONT GET IT,,,TROOPERS GOD BLESS U ANYWAY!

yeah how about trooper green in troup K he writes officers also its not just one, and theres also a sgt in troup K that also writes cops but when they need help they sure call us in a hurry.

I'm a FHP Trooper myself, an man some cops (City & County) sure do talk a lot of $h!T about us trooper writing them tickets, but have they drive like $h!T, reckless at times, I've almost had 2 head on in my black & tan with off duty MDP offices driving crouch rockets, so maybe they should look at themselfs. Yet they want the courtesy when you go 10-50 on them, but if they stop one of us they wanna they have a shitty attude.

An to that Monroe FHP unit Burgos, don't let these shit talkers get in your way, I've hear alot about you and belive your 10-8. unlike some of these slug we got here in miami probably the ones that were and still are bad mouthing you.

first of all i read through the posts and there seems to be a lot of a facts missing. one should know the facts before casting judgment or you're in the wrong career. secondly whatever was the bac blood results of the Lt son? or was that not done by the investigating agency? Which i believe was NOT FHP. and now i stop people all the time who claim they are on thier way to see someone at the hosptial ,funeral whatever because of this controversy. 99 times out of 100 they are lying. but since management will hammer you for not being compassionate i have to take time out and verify every story. my philosophy is if you're at fault take the responsibility for your actions and deal with consequences later dont blame the leo for doing his job. i've been stopped once since i've been with the patrol and was totally embarrassed. i'm not saying you should write cops but two issues. dont put me in that awkward situation and how about being polite not an arrogant ass! i'm tired of badge flashing. there is a more discreet and professional way of doing it.

I live and work in the Keys. Yes, I've been stopped by FHP in the Keys. Not once did they ever act in an unprofessional manner. I know both Lt. Bello and Trp. Burgos. I also know how Armando can act. I don't blame the Trooper for the ticket, and I also applaud him for voiding it once he knew that what he was told was the truth.

I was stopped by a trooper this evening here in Charlotte County. He had me dead to rights. I was totally dwhua on that one. He cut me some slack, and I was totally embarassed. I did not get his name, but I definately owe him one. Thanks for cutting me slack, sorry I did not get your name, but I was pretty embarassed to say the least. You guys here in this county can always count on me getting your backs when I am working the road.

EARLIER THIS MONTH, I HAD THE PRIVELEDGE TO TAKE PART IN THE P.O.A.T. RIDE FOR KIDS IN MIAMI-DADE COUNTY. THE EVENT WAS TO BENFIT A MIAMI-DADE COUNTY OFFICERS CANCER STRICKEN SON.

WE COMBINED MOTOR UNITS FROM ALL THE LOCAL MUNICIPALITIES AS FAR AS BROWARD COUNTY TO ASSIST WITH THE ESCORT OF NEARLY 900 MOTORCYCLES. THE ESCORT ORIGINATED AT THE SNAPPER CREEK SERVICE PLAZA AND WAS TO CULMINATE AT THE TIKI BAR IN HOLIDAY ISLE.

TRAGEDY ALMOST STRUCK WHEN NEAR OUR DESTINATION IN MONROE COUNTY, A COMMUTER TIRED OF WAITING FOR THE MOTORCYCLE PROCESSION CRASHED INTO A MIAMI BEACH MOTORMAN.

THE MOTORIST ACCELLERATED THROUGH A BREAK IN THE PROCESSION, DISREGARDED A MIAMI MOTORMAN HOLDING THE INTERSECTION ALMOST RUNNING HIM DOWN, NEARLY MISSING ANOTHER MIAMI BEACH MOTORMAN, AND FINALLY HITTING THE MIAMI BEACH MOTORMAN. THE MOTORIST THEN FLED ACROSS THE INTERSECTION BEING PURSUED BY THE TWO MOTORMEN ON FOOT. THE FLEEING MOTORIST SEEING NO WAY OUT OF THE DEAD END HE DROVE INTO, STOPPED ABOUT 100 YARDS FROM THE CRASH SCENE. THE SUBJECT WAS TAKEN INTO CUSTODY BY THE AFFECTED MOTORMEN.

IT WAS OBVIOUS BY THE APPEARANCE OF THE DRIVER THAT HE WAS IMPAIRED. TURNS OUT HE HAD A LIST OF THE MEDICATIONS HE WAS INGESTING FOR ONE REASON OR ANOTHER. A CON****TION OF AT LEAST EIGHT DIFFERENT MEDICATIONS, HALF OF WHICH IMPAIR DRIVING.

LUCK WOULD HAVE IT THAT THE TROOPER DISPATCHED TO THE SCENE WAS THE SAME TROOPER THAT GAVE A CITY OF MIAMI POLICE LIEUTENANT A TICKET FOR SPEEDING TO HIS SON'S DEATHBED AT JACKSON MEMORIAL HOSPITAL. SADLY HIS SON, ALSO A POLICE OFFICER, EXPIRED BEFORE HE COULD REACH THE HOSPITAL.

IT WAS THERFORE NO SURPRISE TO US THAT THIS TROOPER WAS UNCOOPERATIVE. HE WENT OUT OF HIS WAY TO TO MAKE SURE ALL HE HAD TO DO WAS SCRATCH OUT A SIMPLE CRASH REPORT. HE NEITHER ATTEMPTED TO DETERMINE THE OFFENDERS IMPAIRMENT NOR CHARGE HIM WITH DISOBEYING A LAW ENFORCEMENT OFFICER, OR LEAVING THE SCENE OF A CRASH.

AN FHP SUPERVISOR RESPONDED DUE TO OUR INSISTENCE BUT FAILED TO CONVINCE HIS SUBORDINATE OF THE PROPER WAY TO HANDLE THE SCENE LEAVING IT UP TO THE DISCRETION OF THE TROOPER.

THIS INCIDENT LEFT A SERIOUSLY SOUR TASTE IN OUR MOUTHS. IT IS OBVIOUS THAT COMMON SENSE ISN'T SO COMMON. HERE IN MIAMI-DADE COUNTY WE WORK ALONG SIDE MANY DIFFERENT LAW ENFORCEMENT AGENCIES INCLUDING THE FLORIDA HIGHWAY PATROL. WE ARE ALL ONE BIG LAW ENFORCEMENT FAMILY AND DESPITE INCIDENTS LIKE THESE, WE CONTINUE TO DO SO. I IMAGINE THAT ALL AGENCIES HAVE A MEMBER LIKE THIS TROOPER.

THE INTENTION OF THIS POST IS TO OPEN SOME EYES AND MAYBE AVERT FUTURE INCIDENTS LIKE THIS, ALL IN THE PURSUIT OF BROTHERHOOD BETWEEN LAW ENFORCEMENT OFFICERS EVERYWHERE. OUR PROFESSION ISN'T AS POPULAR AS IT USED TO BE. IF WE DON'T HAVE EACH OTHER, THEN WHO DO WE HAVE?

Miami Cop,
Sounds like this incident along with the supervisory response should be addressed up the chain of command. There is an old saying on the Highway Patrol " 10 different troops, 10 different Highway Patrols". Maybe your Chief should have a visit with Major Brierton. I know where I work this would not be tolerated because it would not happen. Hope the Motorman is OK.

HEY BORG IF YOU THINK YOU SMELL A RAT CALL THE DEPUTY AND ASK HIS SIDE . I HAVE NOTHING TO HIDE AND WILLING TO STAND BY MY STORY! THE BOTTOM LINE IS YOU DON'T WRITE COPS ,,,, ESPECIALLY WHEN THEY SHOW YOU THE RESPECT OUR JOBS COMMAND.

To the MIAMI COP,

I was one of the other troopers on scene with Burgos, and you got it all wrong my friend. You guys not only unlawfaully detained the othe driver involved but tried to get Burgos to falsely arrest the driver for fleeing & eluding, why don't you read your fl. statues an understand the elements of fleeing & eluding. THE MOTORIST THEN FLED ACROSS THE INTERSECTION BEING PURSUED BY THE TWO MOTORMEN ON FOOT.THE FLEEING MOTORIST SEEING NO WAY OUT OF THE DEAD END HE DROVE INTO, STOPPED ABOUT 100 YARDS FROM THE CRASH SCENE. Are you sure you were at the same crash scene, i was at what you stated in your post is totally wrong my friend that street was not a dead end steet. If that was fleeing & eluding to you, man I could just imagine the unlawful arrest that you do. It's not fleeing & eluding when you drive no more then 50' ft from the scene, you reaaly need help on your ability to measure distances. It's a simple crash report. Also keep in mind that you were about 90 miles out of your jurisdiction & that Burgos was courtious enough to let all you bone head stick around his scene. But once again none of you had the balls to say what you had to say in Burgos face. By the way the FHP supervisor that showed up on scene, could not believe what you guys considered fleeing & eluding.

Signal-14 only just remeber how you guys treated the driver of the van, just hope that your father or grandfather doesn't get treated that way by another LEO officer I dont think you would be too happy.

To the MIAMI COP,

I was one of the other troopers on scene with Burgos, and you got it all wrong my friend. You guys not only unlawfaully detained the othe driver involved but tried to get Burgos to falsely arrest the driver for fleeing & eluding, why don't you read your fl. statues an understand the elements of fleeing & eluding. THE MOTORIST THEN FLED ACROSS THE INTERSECTION BEING PURSUED BY THE TWO MOTORMEN ON FOOT.THE FLEEING MOTORIST SEEING NO WAY OUT OF THE DEAD END HE DROVE INTO, STOPPED ABOUT 100 YARDS FROM THE CRASH SCENE. Are you sure you were at the same crash scene, i was at what you stated in your post is totally wrong my friend that street was not a dead end steet. If that was fleeing & eluding to you, man I could just imagine the unlawful arrest that you do. It's not fleeing & eluding when you drive no more then 50' ft from the scene, you reaaly need help on your ability to measure distances. It's a simple crash report. Also keep in mind that you were about 90 miles out of your jurisdiction & that Burgos was courtious enough to let all you bone head stick around his scene. But once again none of you had the balls to say what you had to say in Burgos face. By the way the FHP supervisor that showed up on scene, could not believe what you guys considered fleeing & eluding.

Signal-14 only just remeber how you guys treated the driver of the van, just hope that your father or grandfather doesn't get treated that way by another LEO officer I dont think you would be too happy.




YOU MUST HAVE BEEN THE INCOMPETENT SUPERVISOR ON THE SCENE. I HAVE ABOUT 15 OFFICERS ON THE SCENE THAT WERE WITNESS TO FHP'S LACK OF COOPERATION, FOR A LACK OF BETTER WORDS. AND AS FOR BEING 90 MILES OUT OF MY JURISDICTION AS YOU SO WELL STATED, MAYBE ITS YOU THAT CAN'T JUDGE DISTANCE. WE WERE WORKING JOINTLY WITH THE MONROE COUNTY SHERIFFS OFFICE FOR A GREAT CAUSE. IT'S INCIDENTS LIKE THESE THAT DISCOURAGE OFFICERS FROM PARTICIPATING IN THESE EVENTS. I MUST CONGRATULATE YOU AND YOUR TROOP FOR DISCOURAGING OFFICERS FROM PARTICIPATING IN THE NEXT P.O.A.T. EVENT. I HOPE THAT YOU AND YOURS NEVER NEED TO BENEFIT FROM SUCH AN EVENT.

To the MIAMI COP,

No, I was not the supervisor on scene, as a matter of fact there was no FHP supervisor on scene, it was a THI Corporal. In FHP a supervisor is that of a rank of Sgt & above. Yes I understand that it was a jointly with the MCSO, but still you have no jurisdiction they do, and no mutual aid is not one of them either. Yeah, I saw about 15 officers on scene, who seemed as if they never worked a simple accident. Now my ? to you is are you a miami beach PD or a City of Miami PD officer. If you think the trooper was wrong why dont you call *fhp & ask to speak to a supervisor regarding the crash investigation. I can't believe your say that the trooper failed to do his job, remember this is they guy that was also doing his job when he wrote the Lt. a ticket on the stretch, but you guys had a serious problem him doing his job them, so what makes you think that he would not do his job if it came down to a john doe. You guys sure a quick to talk bad about other LEO, it seems as if we're back in Elementry.

To the MIAMI COP,

No, I was not the supervisor on scene, as a matter of fact there was no FHP supervisor on scene, it was a THI Corporal. In FHP a supervisor is that of a rank of Sgt & above. Yes I understand that it was a jointly with the MCSO, but still you have no jurisdiction they do, and no mutual aid is not one of them either. Yeah, I saw about 15 officers on scene, who seemed as if they never worked a simple accident. Now my ? to you is are you a miami beach PD or a City of Miami PD officer. If you think the trooper was wrong why dont you call *fhp & ask to speak to a supervisor regarding the crash investigation. I can't believe your say that the trooper failed to do his job, remember this is they guy that was also doing his job when he wrote the Lt. a ticket on the stretch, but you guys had a serious problem him doing his job them, so what makes you think that he would not do his job if it came down to a john doe. You guys sure a quick to talk bad about other LEO, it seems as if we're back in Elementry.


OK, SO YOU WERE NOT ON THE SCENE, BUT YOU DID GO BY AND SEE US AND CHOSE NOT TO STOP AND PERFORM YOUR SUPERVISORY DUTIES. OH, UNLESS THIS POST IS ACTUALLY WRITTEN BY TROOPER BURGOS HIMSELF.

:evil: FIRST OF ALL THIS WEB SITE IS FOR FHP TROOPERS , NOT RETIRED COPS FROM NYC ( ARSE WIPES ) - GET TO THAT IN A MINUTE OR ANY OTHER POLICE OFFICERS. USE YOUR OWN WEB SITE. WHAT MAKES U THINK YOU ARE BETTER THAN US!!! U DO AND YOUR NOT!!! WE DONT GO ONTO YOUR WEBSITE AND POST ANYTHING NEGATIVE OR COMPLAIN ABOUT OTHER OFFICERS FOR SLUFFING OFF THEIR JOBS OR TREATING US LIKE CRAP. U ALL KNOW AS WELL AS WE DO THAT WE ARE LIED TO EVERYDAY BY PEOPLE. I SERIOUSLY DOUBT THAT THIS LT FROM MIAMI WAS IN HIS MARKED UNIT. DONT BELIEVE EVERYTHING U HEAR. YOU ALL SHOULD KNOW THIS. WE ALL HAVE A SPLIT SECOND TO MAKE A JUDGEMENT CALL AND WHEN THINGS DONT GO IN SOMEONE'S FAVOR EVERYONE LIKES TO CRY "DIRTY POOL". SHAME ON ALL OF YOU FOR POSTING THOSE NASTY THINGS ABOUT ONE OF OUR TROOPERS. MOST OF YOU BECAME EMPLOYED AT OTHER AGENCIES BECAUSE YOU COULDNT GET INTO THE NYSP ACADEMY. AND BELEIVE ME YOU ALL KNOW WHO U ARE. AS FOR NYPD, IVE BEEN TO NYC AND THE POLICE THERE WERE OBNOXIOUS. I HAVE ENCOUNTERED SEVERAL OF THEM AND INTRODUCED MYSELF AND JUST LIKE IN THE GREAT STATE OF FLORIDA I WAS ALSO SLIGHTED BY THOSE OFFICERS. IM NOT IMPRESSED WITH THE PROFESSIONALISM AND LACK THEREOF. WITH THE REMARKS POSTED ON THIS MESSAGE BOARD I QUESTION EACH AND EVERY OFFICERS INTEGRITY AND CHARACTER CURRENTLY ACTIVE AND RETIRED. WHEN FHP TROOPERS CUT UP ON YOUR PLAY GROUND JUST HOW DO U REALLY TREAT THEM? ONE LAST QUESTION, WHAT DO U SEE WHEN U LOOK IN THE MIRROR?

There is no point in addressing these issues with FHP because THEY DON'T CARE.

Several years ago, when I was in the academy (Broward), we were warned about FHP. They do not subscribe to the brotherhood concept. Remember, you are not dealing with the sharpest tools in the shed here. They are hired by FHP for a reason. That agency gets every troglodyte that just emerged from a hole from some desolate town in Central Florida.

At the academy, these automatons are taught that they are the "real" cops and everyone else is scum. I know because I had one tell me so.

Bottom line is they do not believe in professional courtesy and they never will. You think Trooper Burgos cares what any of us think? He's a gutless scumbag for writing that LEO and NOT BECAUSE of the circumstances. JUST SIMPLY BECAUSE HE WROTE A LEO. Period, the end.

Are there times when I pull over a LEO and I'm greeted with the badge stuck out the window? Yep. You deal with it and move on. I pat the guy on the shoulder and say "Have a nice day."

I would not try to sell this point to the public because it is somewhat unethical, objectively speaking. However, as a police officer, we should all understand and appreciate the tenuousness and sensitivity of our positions. We don't need to add to each other's stress by writing each other tickets. FHP will never get this and NEVER WILL. They're scumbags, period. NOT ALL mind you, but most.

I particularly enjoy the indignant responses by the Troopers that act as if that they are unfairly stigmatized. PLEASE. You know god darn well your agency is notorious for this behavior. What other message board has multiple topics that are added to ad infinitum about Professional courtesy? No other. Police your own people.

There is no point in addressing these issues with FHP because THEY DON'T CARE.

Several years ago, when I was in the academy (Broward), we were warned about FHP. They do not subscribe to the brotherhood concept. Remember, you are not dealing with the sharpest tools in the shed here. They are hired by FHP for a reason. That agency gets every troglodyte that just emerged from a hole from some desolate town in Central Florida.

At the academy, these automatons are taught that they are the "real" cops and everyone else is scum. I know because I had one tell me so.

Bottom line is they do not believe in professional courtesy and they never will. You think Trooper Burgos cares what any of us think? He's a gutless scumbag for writing that LEO and NOT BECAUSE of the circumstances. JUST SIMPLY BECAUSE HE WROTE A LEO. Period, the end.

Are there times when I pull over a LEO and I'm greeted with the badge stuck out the window? Yep. You deal with it and move on. I pat the guy on the shoulder and say "Have a nice day."

I would not try to sell this point to the public because it is somewhat unethical, objectively speaking. However, as a police officer, we should all understand and appreciate the tenuousness and sensitivity of our positions. We don't need to add to each other's stress by writing each other tickets. FHP will never get this and NEVER WILL. They're scumbags, period. NOT ALL mind you, but most.

I particularly enjoy the indignant responses by the Troopers that act as if that they are unfairly stigmatized. PLEASE. You know god darn well your agency is notorious for this behavior. What other message board has multiple topics that are added to ad infinitum about Professional courtesy? No other. Police your own people.

If theres no point in addressing these issues then why are you?

How come we have not heard from any of Trooper Burgos's co-workers? Aren't you guys ashamed that he disgraced your uniform? I know there have to be some FHPT that have some common sense and are good Officers. Remember if one of you is getting his/her ass kicked on the side of the road it will probably be a speeding off duty cop that slows down and stops to help you. Cops don't write cops.......ever.

I am very sorry that his son died.

LEO's are one of the most inmature group of personnel I ever had the luck to work with, When someone is traveling at a high rate of speed no matter what for, they run a major risk of causing a DEADLY accident to theirself and others. The officer had a cell phone I am sure, he could of call the trooper office and request an escort, but in his emotional state he did not think, but in the same state he could have killed himself or others.
Why is that LEO's think that they are above the law and what is the brotherhood. Sounds like a lot of Bull$$$$ to me. The offier wrote the ticket doing his job and he may have save the father's life and others.

There is no point in addressing these issues with FHP because THEY DON'T CARE.

Several years ago, when I was in the academy (Broward), we were warned about FHP. They do not subscribe to the brotherhood concept. Remember, you are not dealing with the sharpest tools in the shed here. They are hired by FHP for a reason. That agency gets every troglodyte that just emerged from a hole from some desolate town in Central Florida.

At the academy, these automatons are taught that they are the "real" cops and everyone else is scum. I know because I had one tell me so.

Bottom line is they do not believe in professional courtesy and they never will. You think Trooper Burgos cares what any of us think? He's a gutless scumbag for writing that LEO and NOT BECAUSE of the circumstances. JUST SIMPLY BECAUSE HE WROTE A LEO. Period, the end.

Are there times when I pull over a LEO and I'm greeted with the badge stuck out the window? Yep. You deal with it and move on. I pat the guy on the shoulder and say "Have a nice day."

I would not try to sell this point to the public because it is somewhat unethical, objectively speaking. However, as a police officer, we should all understand and appreciate the tenuousness and sensitivity of our positions. We don't need to add to each other's stress by writing each other tickets. FHP will never get this and NEVER WILL. They're scumbags, period. NOT ALL mind you, but most.

I particularly enjoy the indignant responses by the Troopers that act as if that they are unfairly stigmatized. PLEASE. You know god darn well your agency is notorious for this behavior. What other message board has multiple topics that are added to ad infinitum about Professional courtesy? No other. Police your own people.


If you do the crime you pay the time, get over yourself. You and all of the other LEO's are not above the law and if you speed and get away with it then don't write speeding ticket on civilians. Furthermore if you don't enforce the traffic laws on everyone including LEO's, what other crimes are you allowing to happen because a LEO may be involved.

I hope the same respect and courtesy is shown to you and all your family members in a time of tragedy! :x

You are a disgrace to the shield and deserve to rot in hell for your actions! :evil:

Do all the retired NYcops have the same friendly attitude you displayed toward a fellow LEO. Where is it written in the law that it is OK for all LEOs to violate the traffic laws and not get wrote up. Each and everyone of us took an oath stating that we would enforce the law to the best of our ability and no where in the oath did it say that if the violator was an LEO then done charge the individual. You owe that FHP officer an apology he made a decision and done his JOB. How many time did you violate your oath to up hold the law.

I am a police officer in Ontario, Canada. I am absolutely disgusted that this "officer" wrote a fellow officer for speeding, regardless of what the "excuse" was. For a young officer to assume that a senior lieutenant was lying about his son being critically injured is mind-boggling.......

I hope all Florida officers are ashamed of this clown.

Well go back to Canada, The officer done ihs JOB, We as LEO's are not above the Law. We were not on the scene and it is very disrespectful for you and the other LEO's to write what you have written here. You all owe the FHP officer an apology.

Trooper Burgos, As a fellow LEO, I wish to apologize to you for the inmature, crude way Our fellow LEOs have address you in their replies. You done the right thing, we are not above the LAW, anyone traveling as such a high rate of speed is a danger to himself and others. The LEO being a LT should of call the FHP headquarters and requested an escort. In his emotional state he could of killed himself or other civilians. KEEP UP THE GOOD WORK.

[quote="Burgos FHP Graduation Pic":8vr4wax8]http://www.fhp.state.fl.us/academy/ClassActs/105Grads/Burgos121803.htm

The picture explains a lot. That scar on his forehead that extends through his right eyebrow is undoubtedly where his lobatomy was performed.

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You are one cold hearted individual and I hope that I never come in contact with you while working.

I arrested the son of a NYPD officer who was attending college in Georgia for DUI in an accident investigation where this kid slammed into an suv with a family sending all members of that family to the hospital almost killing the driver.

The kid was plastered. He had driving to the dorms after a party and he admitted to me he drank 7 beers. So I took him to jail. And of course the first thing out of the kid's mouth was "hey my dad is a cop"

His daddy an NYPD Inspector of all people called me the next day pissed off with an attitude the size of Manhattan. He demanded that I drop the charges because he was a cop. I explained to him that his son was driving drunk and he sent a family of four to the hospital not to mention that the father of that family althought he did pull through was in critical condition required a few surgeries.

That inspector did not show any consern about that man or his family all he was worried about was his pathetic drunk son and the fact that this family will most likely sue him and his son. And they should.

Anyway I hanged up on him. So the next time you guys see a NYPD family member or NYPD officer break the law, look the other way... LOL

You don't get a break for crminal charges even an LEO's family member, baby sitter, pool guy, lawn man, paper boy or other acquaintance of the elite LEO.

I arrested the son of a NYPD officer who was attending college in Georgia for DUI in an accident investigation where this kid slammed into an suv with a family sending all members of that family to the hospital almost killing the driver.

The kid was plastered. He had driving to the dorms after a party and he admitted to me he drank 7 beers. So I took him to jail. And of course the first thing out of the kid's mouth was "hey my dad is a cop"

His daddy an NYPD Inspector of all people called me the next day pissed off with an attitude the size of Manhattan. He demanded that I drop the charges because he was a cop. I explained to him that his son was driving drunk and he sent a family of four to the hospital not to mention that the father of that family althought he did pull through was in critical condition required a few surgeries.

That inspector did not show any consern about that man or his family all he was worried about was his pathetic drunk son and the fact that this family will most likely sue him and his son. And they should.

Anyway I hanged up on him. So the next time you guys see a NYPD family member or NYPD officer break the law, look the other way... LOL

You did your job! Imagine if you turned your head the other way :? I dont think the kids daddy would be paying all your mortgage.

I arrested the son of a NYPD officer who was attending college in Georgia for DUI in an accident investigation where this kid slammed into an suv with a family sending all members of that family to the hospital almost killing the driver.

The kid was plastered. He had driving to the dorms after a party and he admitted to me he drank 7 beers. So I took him to jail. And of course the first thing out of the kid's mouth was "hey my dad is a cop"

His daddy an NYPD Inspector of all people called me the next day pissed off with an attitude the size of Manhattan. He demanded that I drop the charges because he was a cop. I explained to him that his son was driving drunk and he sent a family of four to the hospital not to mention that the father of that family althought he did pull through was in critical condition required a few surgeries.

That inspector did not show any consern about that man or his family all he was worried about was his pathetic drunk son and the fact that this family will most likely sue him and his son. And they should.

Anyway I hanged up on him. So the next time you guys see a NYPD family member or NYPD officer break the law, look the other way... LOL
I love hearing from a Georigia ROADMAN! Trooper, thank you for doing your job. I can only imagine how many breaks that kid had gotten away with leading up to this crash. His untouchable attitude led to a tragedy. That NYPD guy had alot of nerve, but I am not surprised. Criminal is criminal...there is nothing accidental about it. Don't want to get locked up? Don't commit a crime!

Keep up the good work Trooper! Also, try to get your guys to use the GSP forum...I would like to read the happenings of your department. Hopefully morale is better up there than down here.