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Unregistered
06-20-2016, 12:27 PM
If you have paid attention since this attack occurred, you would already know that the shooter pledged his allegiance to ISIS and its leader. Not one word out of this shooters mouth cited sexual orientation as even a partial motive, even stories out there that he may have been a closet gay. Not sure how that squares with his muslim religion teachings, but I digress. Now we hear that Att Gen Lynch will release a transcript that will edit out references to ISIS. Several FBI sources have leaked to the press, that this administration has completely scrubbed any references to Islamic Terrorist Extremism. The narrative has been shifted to emphasize this event as a hate crime against gays, and gun control. This Country does have a history of violence against gays, so its not a stretch to imply that this incident was hatred inspired. but was this the case on this shooting? If not, then the rights and sympathies of Muslims and their religion, was a higher priority than the rights and sympathies of Americans. You owe it to the gay community not to be played by a political narrative that minimizes the deaths of all those innocent people. The 9/11 victims families were heavily compensated, run of the mill hate crimes never are outside of private donations. It may behoove the victims families to seek the truth.

Unregistered
06-21-2016, 09:48 AM
With a outpouring of donations and various fundraisers for the Orlando shooting victims, it got me wondering. Soon, every lawyer in this State will be lining up to sue anybody and everybody in search of money. Money doesn't replace love ones, but it happens after every one of these events. Seems to me that when a terror inspired or actual foreign terrorist cell commits murder on any citizen in the USA, the Federal Government should compensate the families without the need for litigation. The Federal Government enjoys Immunity from lawsuits as a general rule. The 9/11 families were heavily compensated in lieu of bankrupting the airlines by our government. Wasn't the nexus that caused their deaths, terrorism? It would certainly appear that the Orlando shootings were terrorist inspired, why then not equally compensate Orlando, and Calf and others the same. Tim M bombing in Okie was equally destructive, but a distinct difference is that it was not as a result of a foreign inspired or actual foreign terrorist cell. The highest priority the POTUS and the Federal Government have is to protect its citizens from attacks by the enemies of this Country. When the Government fails to do this, they should feel obligated to compensate these families, it would be the right and honorable thing to do. Accepting these monies if approved will waive your right to sue anybody, even if some liability can be found. This is why you should not buy into the hate crime, lone wolf narrative. This is a political attempt to minimize what actually happened.

Unregistered
06-21-2016, 02:04 PM
There was an african american female being interviewed on Fox news Monday night who stated that she witnessed people dying during the three hours wait it took the cops before entering.
These cowardly SOB's should be sued, they were derelect in their duty to protect and displayed cowardice when called upon to act. OPD is a disgrace to law enforcement!

Unregistered
06-21-2016, 02:52 PM
There was an african american female being interviewed on Fox news Monday night who stated that she witnessed people dying during the three hours wait it took the cops before entering.
These cowardly SOB's should be sued, they were derelect in their duty to protect and displayed cowardice when called upon to act. OPD is a disgrace to law enforcement!

Hey Dush no one cares.
They were all carriers any ways.

Unregistered
06-26-2016, 09:57 PM
US Attorney General Loretta Lynch says that the best way to fight terrorism is with love. Maybe OPD SWAT needs to rethink their tactics.

http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2016/jun/21/loretta-lynch-most-effective-response-to-islamic-t/

Unregistered
06-28-2016, 02:36 AM
US Attorney General Loretta Lynch says that the best way to fight terrorism is with love. Maybe OPD SWAT needs to rethink their tactics.

http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2016/jun/21/loretta-lynch-most-effective-response-to-islamic-t/

I thought they showed him lots of love by waiting out in the parking lot for three hours to let him finish.

Unregistered
06-28-2016, 10:13 PM
I thought they showed him lots of love by waiting out in the parking lot for three hours to let him finish.

You are very much in need of therapy.
Your survivor's remorse is consuming you and you transfer the blame to the PD.
Displaced aggression is common in these cases and can be treated.

Unregistered
06-29-2016, 12:58 PM
You are very much in need of therapy.
Your survivor's remorse is consuming you and you transfer the blame to the PD.
Displaced aggression is common in these cases and can be treated.

There would have been a lot more people with "survivor's remorse" if OPD didn't stand around in the parking lot quivering and shaking in their boots for three hours. Instead, they are just dead. Thanks OPD.

Unregistered
06-29-2016, 03:07 PM
This is the "Religion of Peace" that the POTUS speaks of:
Olease pay particular attention to the last one on that list.

Sharia Law Rules. If not followed you must die

Theft is punishable by amputation of the right hand (see below).
• Criticizing or denying any part of the Quran is punishable by death.
• Criticizing Muhammad or denying that he is a prophet is punishable by death.
• Criticizing or denying Allah, the god of Islam is punishable by death.
• A Muslim who becomes a non-Muslim is punishable by death.
• A non-Muslim who leads a Muslim away from Islam is punishable by death.
• A non-Muslim man who marries a Muslim woman is punishable by death.
• A man can marry an infant girl and consummate the marriage when she is 9 years old.
• Girls' clitoris should be cut (Muhammad's words, Book 41, Kitab Al-Adab, Hadith 5251).
• A woman can have 1 husband, who can have up to 4 wives; Muhammad can have more.
• A man can beat his wife for insubordination.
• A man can unilaterally divorce his wife; a woman needs her husband's consent to divorce.
• A divorced wife loses custody of all children over 6 years of age or when they exceed it.
• Testimonies of four male witnesses are required to prove rape against a woman.
• A woman who has been raped cannot testify in court against her rapist(s).
• A woman's testimony in court, allowed in property cases, carries ½ the weight of a man's.
• A female heir inherits half of what a male heir inherits.
• A woman cannot drive a car, as it leads to fitnah (upheaval).
• A woman cannot speak alone to a man who is not her husband or relative.
• Meat to eat must come from animals that have been sacrificed to Allah - i.e., be "Halal".
• Muslims should engage in Taqiyya and lie to non-Muslims to advance Islam.

Unregistered
06-30-2016, 12:04 PM
Well our militant, fixated on the police response friend, if you haven't noticed, Orlando has all but disappeared from the national news. Truth is muslims and especially the ones that commit violence, are of a higher political priority than a group of Hispanic homosexuals, and by the way, some straights were victims to. You keep fixating on the Police, while the Democratic leaders change the subject. Your anger is misplaced. This carnage doesn't fit the Obama agenda.

Unregistered
07-05-2016, 01:17 AM
Well our militant, fixated on the police response friend, if you haven't noticed, Orlando has all but disappeared from the national news. Truth is muslims and especially the ones that commit violence, are of a higher political priority than a group of Hispanic homosexuals, and by the way, some straights were victims to. You keep fixating on the Police, while the Democratic leaders change the subject. Your anger is misplaced. This carnage doesn't fit the Obama agenda.

Had they waited 3 hours while he killed black homos Black Lives Matter would be screaming for OPD to be investigated.
But deep down you know that you guys are cowards that costed many more lives than necessary. A Micky Mouse police department
in more ways then one.

Unregistered
01-30-2017, 12:13 AM
Boy-o-boy you guys have a big problem!



http://drrichswier.com/2017/01/26/video-cair-floridas-mubarak-and-shibly-what-are-you-trying-to-hide/


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VIDEO: CAIR Florida’s Mubarak and Shibly — What Are You Trying To Hide?
January 26, 2017/in Courts & Law, National Security, Policy, Regulation, Religion, Video /by Alan Kornman


The Council on American Islamic Relations (CAIR-FL), a self proclaimed civil rights group, is discriminating against non-Muslims at one of their advertised “open to the public” events at the Rosen Center Hotel in Orlando, FL.

The CAIR January 28, 2017 event is titled, “Media Training-How to Interact & Engage with the Media.” The problem is many people who had RSVP’d and were approved for tickets, later had their ticket registrations denied without cause or reason.

My question to you Ms. Rahaman, Rasha Mubarak, and Hassan Shibly – What are you trying to hide from the public?

The Council on American Islamic relations should welcome non-Muslims from the community with open arms of friendship and coexistence, not rejection, secrecy, and intimidation.

CAIR leader Hassan Shibly has a pathological disdain for law enforcement so its only natural that his employees exhibit similar behaviors. Hassan Shibly is so self absorbed he made a selfie video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZaZq8Xi2Vr4 telling all Muslims to ‘Defy’ U.S. Customs and Border Patrol Agents in the course of doing their jobs to keep us all safe.

https://youtu.be/ZaZq8Xi2Vr4

Maybe Rasha Mubarak is afraid this video of her at Lake Eola Park in Orlando, FL with her friends who proudly fly the Hezbollah Flag will get even wider distribution.

https://youtu.be/0AYf_epdETg

This is just one more example of the CAIR organization operating more like the mafia than a civil rights group. CAIR likes to operate from the shadows and with good reason. This report is just a small ray of sunshine on how CAIR conducts itself when they think nobody is watching.

Below is the same registration denial letter myself and several other people around Central Florida have received. I have numerous emails advertising the event saying the training class is “open to the public.” Groups like CAIR who say one thing and do the opposite are forever stained with public shame.

cair media event orlando posterCAIR Ticket Letter of Denial

Shaliya Rahaman <sRahaman@cair.com>

Jan 23 (1 day ago) to me

Mr Kornman,

Thank you for registering for CAIR-Florida’s upcoming media training on January 28, 2017. As the host and provider of this event, CAIR-Florida has the right to approve or deny individual registration requests.

You are hereby notified that your registration request has been denied, therefore, you are not allowed to attend the event.

Please govern yourself accordingly.

CAIR-Florida

Shaliya Rahaman
Community Outreach & Events Coordinator
Council on American-Islamic Relations Florida
8076 N. 56th Street
Tampa, Florida 33617
P: 813.514.1414
sRahaman@cair.com| cairflorida.org