Scandal: There Is NO Incident Report for the Michael Brown Shooting!

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For those of you waiting for an incident report from the shooting of Michael Brown–stop. There isn’t one. Ferguson police say that they did not file an incident report on the shooting of unarmed teenager Michael Brown because they turned the case over to the St. Louis County police almost immediately, according to the county prosecutor.

According to St. Louis County Prosecuting Attorney Robert P. McCulloch, police chose to release the incident report from a “robbery” in which Brown is a suspect, as well as security video, because that’s all they had. The St. Louis County police department may have filed one, but those documents will not be made public until a grand jury investigating the murder concludes its investigation.

Unfortunately, zoomed in footage of the video they provided seems to show Brown paying for the cigarillos. In fact, the store owner spoke out through his attorney and clarified that neither he, nor any employee called police. A customer, in fact, placed the call because he or she thought the store was robbed. Ferguson police asked for the video. “‘During the course of Ferguson’s investigation, the police department from Ferguson, came to the store and asked for to review the tape,” Ferguson Market’s attorney explained.

Interestingly, there is no dash camera footage, either. Ferguson does possess dash cameras, as well as body cameras, but is too cheap to actually install them.

Accounts of the shooting greatly differ. Ferguson police say that Brown attacked Wilson in his car and then ran away. By their own account, Officer Wilson began firing at Brown and his friend Dorian Johnson as they fled–though they say that no bullets hit Brown while his back was turned–something that is heavily disputed by the results of an independent autopsy.

Allegedly, Brown turned around and ran toward the officer who was shooting at him–though his injuries are consistent with the teenager’s arms being raised. At least one bullet entered “back-to-front.” The only wounds that were not caused by bullets were abrasions on Brown’s face from when he fell after the final shot was fired.

Many are desperate to believe the police account. On Tuesday, the Gateway Pundit “broke” a story that Darren Wilson suffered an orbital blowout fracture of his eye socket during his confrontation with Brown. The blogger presented some damning evidence: a CT scan that purportedly showed the fracture. What he didn’t mention is that the image is not of Wilson, and is from the University of Iowa (though he was careful to scrub that information from the image).

The Ku Klux Klan and other groups of white people have joined forces to support Michael Brown’s murderer. Together, they have raised more than $200,000 to reward Michael Brown’s killer for ridding the world of another “typical low-IQ Negro.”
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Just keeps getting better and better!!!

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Texas police chief shot, killed in line of duty
By Mark Wilson, San Antonio Express-News
Updated 5:28 pm, Saturday, August 23, 2014

The Chief of the Elmendorf Police Department was killed while executing an arrest warrant Saturday morning, according to police.

Michael Pimentel was gunned down just before noon near 1st Avenue and 9th Street where he had been waiting for the man named in the warrant to come outside the house to arrest him, according to Sgt. Jason Burchett, who is now the acting police chief.

Bexar County Sheriff Susan Pamerleau said the suspect, identified as Joshua Lopez, 24, is in custody. He will face a charge of capital murder of a police officer...

"Every day police officers throughout the state risk their lives to protect their communities, and tragically sometimes they make the ultimate sacrifice," McCraw said. "On behalf of the Department of Public Safety, our thoughts and prayers go out ot the family of the chief."

National statistics show an uptick in the number of officers killed this year, he said, with Pimentel and 72 others dying on duty through this time in 2013. That is up 24 percent from last year."

http://www.beaumontenterprise.com/news/article/Officer-critically-wounded-following-shooting-5708111.php

POTUS/ERIC HOLDER-AWAITING YOUR RESPONSE AND VISIT...

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I have no idea what the President of the United States of America or Holder has to do with the topic, but this should bring it back in line.
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The murder of Michael Brown has been everywhere lately, and debate has followed it at every turn. Compounding the debate is the fact that the story itself is so confusing…facts and accounts so disparate, spread so far and wide that a certain degree of confusion on the shooting isn’t just understandable…it’s expected. Expected by the Ferguson County PD anyway, given its relentless disinformation campaigns.

The following is a composite of four different witness testimonies, giving a not just seamless, but overlapping and consistent eye-witness account of what happened from moment to moment the day Michael Brown was shot and killed.

•All witnesses apart from Dorian Johnson confirmed as having no relationship to Brown.
•Brown and Johnson walking down street.
•Police car pulls up, and stops with its driver-side door within inches of the two. Close enough that it couldn’t fully open without hitting them.
•Officers tells the two “Get the f*** on the sidewalk.” No mention of “freeze” or “halt.”
•Johnson tells officer they were “not but a minute away from the destination.”
•Officer tries to open door “aggressively,” hitting both Johnson and Brown with it before the door had come “an inch out.”
•Officer extends arm from window, and wraps arm around Brown’s neck. (Officer in SUV, high enough to reach)
•Officer attempts to pull Brown in through SUV window in a headlock-style maneuver, with crook of elbow locked around the back of Brown’s neck.
•Several witnesses confirm seeing struggle at SUV window, with at least three saying Brown was definitely attempting to pull away.
•Officer reaching for his gun with free hand.
•Johnson reports that the officer said “I’ll shoot, I’ll shoot!” while still grappling with Brown.He says the weapon discharged then, with the bullet possibly going up and out of the window. The number of total shots fired has not been released by police.
•The other witnesses say the first shot came after Brown broke away from the police officer’s grasp and started running away with his back turned. The timing of the first shot is the primary internal inconsistency with Johnson’s testimony and the other three witnesses. The rest is undisputed.
•The officer got out of the vehicle and started chasing after Brown. When Brown was about 20 feet away, the officer opened fire, reportedly shooting Brown in the arm the first time. As he chased, he continued firing, striking Brown at least once in the back or the arm. Verified by forensics and multiple eye-witness accounts.
•Brown, realizing he’s hit, stops and turns around with his hands in the air.
•All witnesses verify that Brown was standing still in a posture of surrender.
•Johnson reports Brown as telling the officer to “Stop shooting, I’m unarmed.”
•At least two witnesses verify he had his hands up.
•Officer continues to advance, firing his weapon as he does, hitting Brown as many as three times in the right arm, and once in the chest. Multiple witness verification.
•Witnesses report officer still firing even as Brown doubled over from the chest and arm wounds.
•Officer fires two shots to the head, the last being from the top of the skull and exiting through the face, confirming that Brown’s head was down with the top pointed toward the officer. Consistent with witness testimony that he had crumpled from previous shots.
Medical examiners have determined that Brown could have survived the first five shots with medical treatment. It was the final shot to the top of his skull, the coup de gras delivered as Brown was crumpling to the ground, that killed him.

Summary

By all witness reports, Ferguson police officer Darren Wilson (from no less than 20 feet away) shot a fleeing, unarmed teen with his back turned, and then advanced to deliver an unnecessary killing shot to the head while said teen was visibly incapacitated.
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Go ahead and respond with another round of non-sequitur statements. It will not change the fact that Brown was murdered.

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Surprise, Surprise, there is an incident report on the Michael Brown shooting, after all! After a long battle with journalists, civil liberties groups, and protesters Ferguson police have finally released the report, which was previously said not to exist.

The county prosecutor previously said that Ferguson police did not file an incident report from the shooting of unarmed African-American teen Michael Brown because the case was immediately turned over to St. Louis County, but a report has materialized.

If you were expecting to learn something from the heavily-redacted and mostly-blank document–you’re not. Police have blacked out vital public information, leaving the majority of the report covered or blank. The most important pieces of the report, the victim’s name and a description of the events–are, of course, missing from the information released.

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The American Civil Liberties Union says that the released document violates Missouri open records laws. “They are breaking the law,” said Tony Rothert, legal director of the Missouri ACLU. Where St. Louis County’s incident report only said “who, where, and when,” this report doesn’t even contain that much information.

“I’ve never seen an incident report that didn’t contain a description of the incident, at least on some basic level,” said Don Tittle, a Texas civil and criminal attorney. “It makes you wonder if they don’t want to commit to a story.”
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Does anyone on that department know what the hell they are doing?

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I have no idea what the President of the United States of America or Holder has to do with the topic, but this should bring it back in line.
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The murder of Michael Brown has been everywhere lately, and debate has followed it at every turn. Compounding the debate is the fact that the story itself is so confusing…facts and accounts so disparate, spread so far and wide that a certain degree of confusion on the shooting isn’t just understandable…it’s expected. Expected by the Ferguson County PD anyway, given its relentless disinformation campaigns.

The following is a composite of four different witness testimonies, giving a not just seamless, but overlapping and consistent eye-witness account of what happened from moment to moment the day Michael Brown was shot and killed.

•All witnesses apart from Dorian Johnson confirmed as having no relationship to Brown.
•Brown and Johnson walking down street.
•Police car pulls up, and stops with its driver-side door within inches of the two. Close enough that it couldn’t fully open without hitting them.
•Officers tells the two “Get the f*** on the sidewalk.” No mention of “freeze” or “halt.”
•Johnson tells officer they were “not but a minute away from the destination.”
•Officer tries to open door “aggressively,” hitting both Johnson and Brown with it before the door had come “an inch out.”
•Officer extends arm from window, and wraps arm around Brown’s neck. (Officer in SUV, high enough to reach)
•Officer attempts to pull Brown in through SUV window in a headlock-style maneuver, with crook of elbow locked around the back of Brown’s neck.
•Several witnesses confirm seeing struggle at SUV window, with at least three saying Brown was definitely attempting to pull away.
•Officer reaching for his gun with free hand.
•Johnson reports that the officer said “I’ll shoot, I’ll shoot!” while still grappling with Brown.He says the weapon discharged then, with the bullet possibly going up and out of the window. The number of total shots fired has not been released by police.......



Medical examiners have determined that Brown could have survived the first five shots with medical treatment. It was the final shot to the top of his skull,
"the coup de gras"* delivered as Brown was crumpling to the ground, that killed him.
visibly incapacitated.
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Go ahead and respond with another round of non-sequitur statements. It will not change the fact that Brown was murdered.

ALERT***ALERT***ALERT
Notify Professor Xavier immediately!! Apparently there are 'civilians' (mutants/#X-Men) in Ferguson possessing the ability of X-Ray vision. Must transport to X-Mansion (Xavier's School for Gifted Youngsters)-STAT!


*nice "Kill Bill: Vol. 2" reference

you did forget the circumflex accent on your "coup de grâce" but c'est la vie, non?

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Yet another poor non sequitur attempt at hijacking the thread topic by the last post.
So once again lets steer it back in the right direction shall we?
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People are wondering why the department is providing little-to-no information regarding the homicide.

Thus far, Ferguson has, weeks after the shooting, released a heavily-redacted incident report they initially claimed did not exist because the case had been turned over to St. Louis County, who filed an information-free report of their own. When Wilson was revealed to be the murderer, Ferguson cops made public a video they claimed showed Brown robbing a store–but the store owner, through his attorney, said that he nor any employees reported a robbery. In fact, police did not see the video until after Brown was dead in the street. In any case, he does not believe that the person allegedly committing strong-arm robbery is Michael Brown.

The Ku Klux Klan and other people have set up funds to collect reward money for Wilson, in any case.

But who is Darren Wilson?

Darren Wilson’s first police job was in the small town of Jennings, MO–and the police department had such a troubled history with racial tensions between white officers and black residents that the city eventually disbanded it. Three years ago, every single officer–including Wilson–was fired, and new people were hired in an effort to regain credibility with residents.

After his termination, Wilson applied and was hired in nearby Ferguson. Things were going well for Wilson–until August 9, when he gunned down Michael Brown. Since the shooting Wilson has disappeared from the public eye, and is silent about the shooting–though many are willing to speak on his behalf, including a certain blogger who fraudulently claimed Wilson suffered an orbital blowout fracture as a result of his confrontation with the unarmed teen. Even the spirit world says that Wilson is innocent, according to a right-wing “Christian” psychic and astrologer.

The Jenning police department was, like Ferguson, mostly white despite a majority of African-American residents. “It was not an ideal place to learn how to police,” the Washington Post noted. According to officials, Wilson kept a clean record with no disciplinary action–unsurprising, given the department’s history.

According to Rodney Epps, an African-American city council member in Jennings, racial tension was rampant in the police department.

“You’re dealing with white cops, and they don’t know how to address black people,” Epps said. “The straw that broke the camel’s back, an officer shot at a female. She was stopped for a traffic violation. She had a child in the back [of the] car and was probably worried about getting locked up. And this officer chased her down Highway 70, past city limits, and took a shot at her. Just ridiculous.”

Police faced numerous lawsuits for using unnecessary force. Cassandra Fuller sued the Jennings police department after an officer beat her on her front porch after he became incensed by a joke in June 2009. A car smashed into her van, which was parked in front of her home. The officer asked her to move her van. “It don’t run. You can take it home with you if you want,” she answered. The officer threw her off the porch, knocked her on the ground, and kicked her in the stomach, Fuller said.

The department paid Fuller a confidential sum to settle the case. “It’s like a horror story in my mind. I never thought a police officer would pull me off my porch and beat me to the ground, for just laughing,” Fuller said.

On top of racial tensions, the department was dealing with institutional corruption on a grand scale. A joint Federal and local investigation determined that a lieutenant was receiving federal funds for DUI checks that never happened.

In March 2011, the city council voted 6-1 to shut down the department and hire St. Louis County to run its police services with Lt. Jeff Fuesting as commanding officer. “My impression is he didn’t go above and beyond, and he didn’t get in any trouble,” Fuesting said of Darren Wilson.

He said of the department before it was disbanded, “There was a disconnect between the community and the police department. There were just too many instances of police tactics which put the credibility of the police department in jeopardy. Complaints against officers. There was a communication breakdown between the police and the community. There were allegations involving use of force that raised questions.”

Police in the area have revealed that racism is not a problem limited to Jennings or Ferguson. St. Louis officer Dan Page was revealed to have given a racially-charged speech in which he talked of his love of killing at an Oath Keepers meeting two years ago. An officer in Glendale, just fifteen miles from Ferguson, was suspended for his bigoted Facebook posts about the Michael Brown murder and the resulting protests. An officer working the Ferguson protests was caught on a racist Twitter rant about protesters, as well. Officer “Go F*ck Yourself” pointed his weapon at an African-American member of the media and loudly declared, “I will f*cking kill you.” A member of the National Guard, called in to “restore calm,” referred to protesters as “n*ggers.” Another cop was busted calling demonstrators “f*cking animals,” on top of all that. The list goes on–and this is just what was caught on tape and on social media!

A grand jury is currently reviewing evidence in making a determination whether or not Wilson will be charged for the murder of Michael Brown. The Grand Jury, unsurprisingly, is mostly white.

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Hey H.S. blogger: Yeah, I think your on the wrong site. While you are pretty good with your 1st amendment thing and your pocket thesaurus I think you snoozed away on the rest of the rights this great country has afforded you. Do yourself a favor and educate your brain on how our court system works before posting stuff that you cut and pasted from random websites and seasoned with your racist rants. This is a LEO site so unless you want talk about some overtime or CLP, kick rocks.
Stay safe brothers.

----you can hit f-5.......now......now.......now......haha-LMAO

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Hey H.S. blogger: Yeah, I think your on the wrong site. While you are pretty good with your 1st amendment thing and your pocket thesaurus I think you snoozed away on the rest of the rights this great country has afforded you. Do yourself a favor and educate your brain on how our court system works before posting stuff that you cut and pasted from random websites and seasoned with your racist rants. This is a LEO site so unless you want talk about some overtime or CLP, kick rocks.
Stay safe brothers.

----you can hit f-5.......now......now.......now......haha-LMAO
To repeat myself from a post on another topic, you can always tell when fact based truth hits home hard. No logical counter points or facts are offered up by the other side of the ilse. All that is offered is ad hominem attacks and poor attempts at humor.
Sorry that the following is going to drop your knuckle dragging jaw to the ground as the words WTF come out.
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My Bio:
30+ yrs LEO veteran of SW Florida

15 yrs FTO Road Sgt

Finishing up my masters in Criminal Justice at USF (so cram your phony attempt at educating someone in the field of
jurisprudence)

Do not need a thesaurus to communicate me thoughts to someone. You on the other hand needed "spell check" to know how to spell "thesaurus".

Now here is the one that will have you throwing your empty PBR cans at the wall and have you pound your keyboard with your fist.

I am a 57 year old Irish-American male. ( Guess that kind of screws up your attempt at reverse racism Barney)
You are right are about one thing though. (hard to imagine isn't it) This is a great country, regardless of the actions by idiot officers such as yourself. Officers like who want to drag law enforcement down to an anarchical and dystopian state.

To quote the words of a famous crime fighter, "you knew the job was dangerous when you took it". Do a Google and see who it was.

So with that, you and the other Fife's have a fine day. And for God sake, please properly educate yourself in how to be a professional law enforcement officer, and not a uniformed vigilante.

Th-th-th-th-th-th-that's all folks!

For now.

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A few weeks ago the Ferguson police chief held his first press conferences regarding the killing of Brown. At that conference the chief was asked how many shots were fired by the officer. The chief responded that no more then a couple of shots were fired. A couple is termed as two by most people.
Now, a better number could have been arrived at if a simple count of the spent brass from the officers weapon had been counted. For whatever the reason the chief decided to go with, just a couple of shots.

Well possible new evidence has now come to light that may just prove that the chief is either an idiot who can not count or is an outright liar.

A newly surfaced audio recording allegedly captures the exact moment that unarmed teen Michael Brown was shot and killed by Ferguson police officer Darren Wilson.

According to an attorney for an unidentified man who lives in an apartment building near the site of the shooting, the recording captures as many as 11 shots fired in the Aug. 9 incident.

The audio, which was played on CNN Monday night, could not immediately be verified by The Washington Post. But a burst of gunfire can be heard (six shots), followed by a pause, and then several more shots (at least four).

“He was in his apartment, he was talking to a friend on a video chat, he heard loud noises and at the moment — at the time he didn’t realize the import of what he was hearing until afterwards,” the man’s lawyer, Lopa Blumenthal, said in an interview with CNN’s Don Lemon. “It just happened to capture 12 seconds of what transpired outside of his building.”

According to Blumenthal, FBI agents came to her office on Monday to interview the man about the recording.

The 12 second-audio clip is the only using a cell-phone app that only records short excerpts of a video conversation. It captured nothing before the shots began and nothing after. The man, who would like to remain anonymous, has asked that the accompanying video not be shown, Blumenthal said in an interview with The Post.

She first learned of the audio clip through the man’s roommate, who is a former client, and she urged him to share it with authorities.

“He was there when the event happened,” Blumenthal said, adding that he initially assumed the noise was fireworks not gunshots. “He is a very private person and he his not seeking publicity of any kind whatsoever. He was even unaware that this tape was relevant to anyone.”

A newly surfaced audio recording allegedly captures the exact moment that unarmed teen Michael Brown was shot and killed by Ferguson police officer Darren Wilson.

According to an attorney for an unidentified man who lives in an apartment building near the site of the shooting, the recording captures as many as 11 shots fired in the Aug. 9 incident.

The audio, which was played on CNN Monday night, could not immediately be verified by The Washington Post. But a burst of gunfire can be heard (six shots), followed by a pause, and then several more shots (at least four).

“He was in his apartment, he was talking to a friend on a video chat, he heard loud noises and at the moment — at the time he didn’t realize the import of what he was hearing until afterwards,” the man’s lawyer, Lopa Blumenthal, said in an interview with CNN’s Don Lemon. “It just happened to capture 12 seconds of what transpired outside of his building.”

According to Blumenthal, FBI agents came to her office on Monday to interview the man about the recording.

The 12 second-audio clip is the only using a cell-phone app that only records short excerpts of a video conversation. It captured nothing before the shots began and nothing after. The man, who would like to remain anonymous, has asked that the accompanying video not be shown, Blumenthal said in an interview with The Post.

She first learned of the audio clip through the man’s roommate, who is a former client, and she urged him to share it with authorities.

“He was there when the event happened,” Blumenthal said, adding that he initially assumed the noise was fireworks not gunshots. “He is a very private person and he his not seeking publicity of any kind whatsoever. He was even unaware that this tape was relevant to anyone.”

Neither Ferguson nor St. Louis County police have contacted the man or Blumenthal about the video. After interviewing him on Monday, she said the FBI indicated that they planned to speak with him again on Tuesday.

Autopsy reports conducted by St. Louis County and by the Brown family found that Brown had been shot at least six times, including twice in the head.

Now here is what I find very interesting about the audio. There is an initial sound of what appears to be six shots fired. A few seconds pause and another round of what appears to be four shots heard.
Now if this audio is found to be authentic it would collaborate the eyewitness accounts of several people. They state that the officer fired numerous shots at the victim as he ran from the officer. After being hit the victim stopped and turned towards the officer who kept approaching the victim and fired his weapon several times again.

What else is very interesting is that neither the Ferguson PD nor St. Louis County Police have shown the slightest bit of interest in acquiring a copy of the audio, just the FBI.

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There is another possible charge that maybe waiting in the wings for Officer Wilson that could be filed with out the need of a grand jury.

The Ferguson Police Department withheld Wilson's name as the shooter for twelve days after the incident. During that time, Wilson was a very busy man. Not only did he go into hiding and go into police protection, he may have destroyed evidence as well. In short he would be guilty of obstruction of justice. Shortly after going underground, all of Wilson internet social media accounts started to disappear very quickly.

In fact all his immediate families social media accounts involving Wilson where deleted as well.
Now if it is found out by the FBI investigation that any of Wilson's accounts contained information involving the Brown shooting, he could be charged with destruction of evidence. That would also go for family, friends and co-workers who deleted Wilson's information that could be found as potential evidence.

If such is the case and it is found that the Ferguson PD told Wilson to delete his accounts then they would be looking at a charge of conspiracy.
Lets see how far down the rabbit hole goes in Ferguson?

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Does anyone remember Detective Melvin
Santiago? He was a Jersey City police officer
who was shot to death just a month ago, on July
13th. Santiago was white. His killer,
Lawrence Campbell, was black. Does anyone
recall Obama appearing before national
television and calling for justice for Officer
Santiago's family? Does anyone recall Eric
Holder (what a joke he is) rushing to Jersey City to see that justice was done?




How about Officer Jeffrey Westerfield. He was a
Gary, Indiana police officer who was shot to
death last month on July 6th. Westerfield was
white. His killer, Carl LeEllis Blount, Jr. was
black. Where was Obama? Where was Holder?




Or Officer Perry Renn? He was an Indianapolis,
Indiana police officer who was shot to death
just last month on July 5th, the day before
Officer Westerfield was killed. Officer Renn
was white. His killer, Major Davis, was
black. I don't recall any mention by Obama
about the untimely death of Officer Renn. And,
I doubt that Eric Holder rushed to Indianapolis
to make sure justice was done. Or, maybe I just missed it.




Vermillion Parish Deputy Sheriff Allen Bares was
gunned down by two men just last June 23rd in
Louisiana. Deputy Bares was white. His two
killers, Quintlan Richard and Baylon Taylor,
were black. Was Obama outraged? Did Eric
Holder rush to Louisiana to make sure that the
family of Deputy Bares found justice?

Here in Killeen, TX, Detective Charles
Dinwiddie of the Killeen Police Department was
murdered by Marvin Lewis Guy, a black
male. Officer Dinwiddie was white. This
happened on May 11th, just over two months
ago. I don't even recall seeing anything
about that on the news. Certainly, the white
citizens in Killeen didn't take to the streets
to loot and burn businesses. Again, I don't
recall any mention by Obama or Holder.

Then, there is Officer Kevin Jordan of the
Griffin, Georgia Police Department. He was
gunned down just two months ago on May
31st. Officer Jordan was black. His killer,
Michael Bowman, was white. This was a white man
murdering a black police officer. Where was
Jesse Jackson? Where was "The Reverend" Al
Sharpton? Was there looting and burning on the
streets of Griffin, Georgia? No. In fact, I
don't recall hearing about this one in the news,
as well. Why? You can draw your own conclusions.

Over the past 60 days, there have been five
reported deaths of police officers by gunshot in
the US. Of those, four were white officers who
were murdered by black men. Blacks complain
that white officers threaten black men more
aggressively on the street. You can draw your
own conclusions on that one, as well.

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Does anyone remember Detective Melvin
Santiago? He was a Jersey City police officer
who was shot to death just a month ago, on July
13th. Santiago was white. His killer,
Lawrence Campbell, was black. Does anyone
recall Obama appearing before national
television and calling for justice for Officer
Santiago's family? Does anyone recall Eric
Holder (what a joke he is) rushing to Jersey City to see that justice was done?




How about Officer Jeffrey Westerfield. He was a
Gary, Indiana police officer who was shot to
death last month on July 6th. Westerfield was
white. His killer, Carl LeEllis Blount, Jr. was
black. Where was Obama? Where was Holder?




Or Officer Perry Renn? He was an Indianapolis,
Indiana police officer who was shot to death
just last month on July 5th, the day before
Officer Westerfield was killed. Officer Renn
was white. His killer, Major Davis, was
black. I don't recall any mention by Obama
about the untimely death of Officer Renn. And,
I doubt that Eric Holder rushed to Indianapolis
to make sure justice was done. Or, maybe I just missed it.




Vermillion Parish Deputy Sheriff Allen Bares was
gunned down by two men just last June 23rd in
Louisiana. Deputy Bares was white. His two
killers, Quintlan Richard and Baylon Taylor,
were black. Was Obama outraged? Did Eric
Holder rush to Louisiana to make sure that the
family of Deputy Bares found justice?

Here in Killeen, TX, Detective Charles
Dinwiddie of the Killeen Police Department was
murdered by Marvin Lewis Guy, a black
male. Officer Dinwiddie was white. This
happened on May 11th, just over two months
ago. I don't even recall seeing anything
about that on the news. Certainly, the white
citizens in Killeen didn't take to the streets
to loot and burn businesses. Again, I don't
recall any mention by Obama or Holder.

Then, there is Officer Kevin Jordan of the
Griffin, Georgia Police Department. He was
gunned down just two months ago on May
31st. Officer Jordan was black. His killer,
Michael Bowman, was white. This was a white man
murdering a black police officer. Where was
Jesse Jackson? Where was "The Reverend" Al
Sharpton? Was there looting and burning on the
streets of Griffin, Georgia? No. In fact, I
don't recall hearing about this one in the news,
as well. Why? You can draw your own conclusions.

Over the past 60 days, there have been five
reported deaths of police officers by gunshot in
the US. Of those, four were white officers who
were murdered by black men. Blacks complain
that white officers threaten black men more
aggressively on the street. You can draw your
own conclusions on that one, as well.

Very well said! The fact of the matter is that hundreds of white police officers are killed by black suspects each decade and not once has the white or black community staged violent protests or looting. The other fact of the matter is that black violence against the white population in the United States outnumbers white on black violence by nearly 100 to 1. Yup, ONE HUNDRED to ONE! Despite this disturbing ratio, the media has a history of only sensationalizing the white on black incidents and labeling them as "hate crimes"?

Based upon the above facts, why do American Citizens of either race allow this to continue and go unchecked? Far worse is the black on black violence in the United States. Every weekend in cities like Chicago, New York and Detroit, nearly 50 to 100 black lives are lost due to black on black violence. These numbets are only limited to several cities, where as across the entire country the numbers would be in the hundreds on any given weekend, yet we continue to put blinders on and play the "blame somebody else" game. Unfortunately it is usually white America that gets the blame and the Police have become a easy target.

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What do either of the above letters have to do with a police officer shooting an unarmed man. How can a suspect who is running away be a threat to the life of an officer?

That is what this whole damn story is about. Not white, not black, not POTUS or anything else.
I have watched our job turn from a profession of serve and protect to nothing less the a paid uniformed lynch mob.
The officer ****ed up, and the department ****ed up trying to cover his ass.
That is it plain and simple.
The story from the chief is that Wilson is hiding and under protection because he fears for his life.
Bullshit! The department has him in hiding, coaching him to get his story straight. I have seen this shit happen over and over when one of ours royally screws up. If you think it is anything else, then you are lying to yourself.

To the last posted letter, no one put a gun to our head and marched us off to an academy and forced us to become a law enforcement officer.
We knew what the hell we were getting into when you chose the career.
So either suck it up and deal with it, our leave the god damn job.

[Unregistered]

For those of you waiting for an incident report from the shooting of Michael Brown–stop. There isn’t one. Ferguson police say that they did not file an incident report on the shooting of unarmed teenager Michael Brown because they turned the case over to the St. Louis County police almost immediately, according to the county prosecutor.

According to St. Louis County Prosecuting Attorney Robert P. McCulloch, police chose to release the incident report from a “robbery” in which Brown is a suspect, as well as security video, because that’s all they had. The St. Louis County police department may have filed one, but those documents will not be made public until a grand jury investigating the murder concludes its investigation.

Unfortunately, zoomed in footage of the video they provided seems to show Brown paying for the cigarillos. In fact, the store owner spoke out through his attorney and clarified that neither he, nor any employee called police. A customer, in fact, placed the call because he or she thought the store was robbed. Ferguson police asked for the video. “‘During the course of Ferguson’s investigation, the police department from Ferguson, came to the store and asked for to review the tape,” Ferguson Market’s attorney explained.

Interestingly, there is no dash camera footage, either. Ferguson does possess dash cameras, as well as body cameras, but is too cheap to actually install them.

Accounts of the shooting greatly differ. Ferguson police say that Brown attacked Wilson in his car and then ran away. By their own account, Officer Wilson began firing at Brown and his friend Dorian Johnson as they fled–though they say that no bullets hit Brown while his back was turned–something that is heavily disputed by the results of an independent autopsy.

Allegedly, Brown turned around and ran toward the officer who was shooting at him–though his injuries are consistent with the teenager’s arms being raised. At least one bullet entered “back-to-front.” The only wounds that were not caused by bullets were abrasions on Brown’s face from when he fell after the final shot was fired.

Many are desperate to believe the police account. On Tuesday, the Gateway Pundit “broke” a story that Darren Wilson suffered an orbital blowout fracture of his eye socket during his confrontation with Brown. The blogger presented some damning evidence: a CT scan that purportedly showed the fracture. What he didn’t mention is that the image is not of Wilson, and is from the University of Iowa (though he was careful to scrub that information from the image).

The Ku Klux Klan and other groups of white people have joined forces to support Michael Brown’s murderer. Together, they have raised more than $200,000 to reward Michael Brown’s killer for ridding the world of another “typical low-IQ Negro.”
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YOU JUST can't handle the TRUTH can you!!!! It will get better when all Police Officers can shoot as GOOD as Officer Wilson. Our boy hits a charging phsyco , 2 head shots, with one usable eye. Good Marine. BUT you would be happier if that fat POS robber disarmed Wilson and killed him with his own gun, would you not ??? SORRY *****. Happy ending.

[Unregistered]

What do either of the above letters have to do with a police officer shooting an unarmed man. How can a suspect who is running away be a threat to the life of an officer?

That is what this whole damn story is about. Not white, not black, not POTUS or anything else.
I have watched our job turn from a profession of serve and protect to nothing less the a paid uniformed lynch mob.
The officer ****ed up, and the department ****ed up trying to cover his ass.
That is it plain and simple.
The story from the chief is that Wilson is hiding and under protection because he fears for his life.
Bullshit! The department has him in hiding, coaching him to get his story straight. I have seen this shit happen over and over when one of ours royally screws up. If you think it is anything else, then you are lying to yourself.

To the last posted letter, no one put a gun to our head and marched us off to an academy and forced us to become a law enforcement officer.
We knew what the hell we were getting into when you chose the career.
So either suck it up and deal with it, our leave the god damn job.

I can tell from your lame attempt at impersonating a LEO that You know a lot about sucking ...civilian! Now make us a SAMITCH *****!

[Unregistered]

The protests in Ferguson, presented a dilemma for the anti-government crowed. The activists and elected officials who spent the spring fawning over lawless Nevada rancher Cliven Bundy’s stand against what they saw as an overbearing federal government changed their tune or just went silent when a police force armed with military weapons cracked down on mostly peaceful protesters in Ferguson.

Lets examine the “inherent contradiction” in the membership of St. Louis County police officer Dan Page, who was suspended after he shoved a CNN reporter and the video of a violent rant he made came to light in Oath Keepers, a group whose entire founding purpose is a fear of violent government overreach against unarmed citizens.

For all their delusions, the Oath Keepers seem tailor-made to counter the surreal overarmed police state that may have played a role in Michael Brown's death by cop in Ferguson, and that has ebbed and flowed through the streets there ever since. The oath that Oath Keepers keep is to disobey a set of orders they believe may be given by government authorities . Hence they swear, in part:

We will NOT obey any order to blockade American cities, thus turning them into giant concentration camps.

We will NOT obey any orders to confiscate the property of the American people, including food and other essential supplies.

We will NOT obey any orders which infringe on the right of the people to free speech, to peaceably assemble, and to petition their government for a redress of grievances.

So with the over reach of the city government the Oath Keeper in the Ferguson PD and St. Louis County PD broke ranks and came to the aid of the protesters armed tot the teeth right? Well in actuality that would be a big fat damn NO!

The Missouri chapter of the Oath Keepers has sent a “letter of warning” to Missouri Gov. Jay Nixon in opposition to police tactics against the protesters. But the Oath Keepers’ opposition seems to be based less on principle than on strategy — in a separate blog post, the national group objects to the police failure to stop looting while it took aim at peaceful protesters. The blog post also notes that Oath Keepers on the scene in Ferguson were “talking consensus for the benefit of the police and the people equally.” This role of self-appointed mediator is in sharp contrast to the group’s show of force at the Bundy ranch. You can not spell bullshit hypocrisy any better then that.

Ferguson has exposed some common ground between the anti-government Right and mainstream civil liberties groups — for instance, both the extreme right-wing Gun Owners of America and the American Civil Liberties Union have signed on to a plan to end the program that sends discount military equipment to local police departments.

Well at least the Gun Owners of America came to the rescue of the protesters right? Weeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeelllll,
that would be another big fat ****ing no to.

Gun Owners of America’s executive director Larry Pratt, however, has been uncharacteristically quiet about Ferguson, linking on Twitter to the Missouri Oath Keepers’ letter to Nixon, but also to an article claiming that Michael Brown wasn’t unarmed because he was “young and strong.” GOA sent out an email arguing that violence in Ferguson was just another reason why people should be allowed to own AR-15s.

Well the real true patriots, the militia groups at the Bundy ranch in Nevada came to the protesters rescue with guns drawn to face down the government oppressors right?
That would be the biggest "NO" of all.

Sheriff Richard Mack, the founder of a group that believes that county sheriffs are the highest law enforcement officers in the land, has also been strangely silent on Ferguson, despite having spent time rallying against the federal government at the Bundy ranch with armed militia groups that he compared to Rosa Parks.

And then there’s Sheriff Joe Arpaio, a Bundy ally who, as the situation in Ferguson escalated, crowed about the combat supplies that he had amassed for his own department.

Yes, the relative silence of the anti-government Right on Ferguson is inconsistent, but so is their view of the Ferguson protests: In the view of many right-wing activists, the protesters in Ferguson weren’t standing up to the government, they were themselves tools of the government.

There is a school of thought among right-wing commentators that the protests in Ferguson were orchestrated or at the very least encouraged by Attorney General Eric Holder and the Obama administration in order to stir up racial resentments and increase Democratic chances in the 2014 midterm elections.

This paranoid scenario is in line with Pratt’s fear, expressed last year, that President Obama is on the verge of starting a race war against white people.

The Ferguson protests exposed a key fault line in the anti-government "Patriot" movement: they are against government overreach, but their definition of what counts as government never seems to be quite clear.

Well that should rap things up for now. Oh, I typed this letter real slow so the mental midgets here (like the ones who made the last two post) can mouth the words with more then two syllables a little easier.

So long, and thanks for all the fish.

[Unregistered]

What do either of the above letters have to do with a police officer shooting an unarmed man. How can a suspect who is running away be a threat to the life of an officer?

That is what this whole damn story is about. Not white, not black, not POTUS or anything else.
I have watched our job turn from a profession of serve and protect to nothing less the a paid uniformed lynch mob.
The officer ****ed up, and the department ****ed up trying to cover his ass.
That is it plain and simple.
The story from the chief is that Wilson is hiding and under protection because he fears for his life.
Bullshit! The department has him in hiding, coaching him to get his story straight. I have seen this shit happen over and over when one of ours royally screws up. If you think it is anything else, then you are lying to yourself.

To the last posted letter, no one put a gun to our head and marched us off to an academy and forced us to become a law enforcement officer.
We knew what the hell we were getting into when you chose the career.
So either suck it up and deal with it, our leave the god damn job.

I don't know why I even bother to reply back to someone as obviously ignorant as you, but what the heck, as maybe just a tiny bit of reality and common sense might actually seep through your thick skull, but then again I doubt it. However, I certainly hope you are not a current law enforcement officer in any capacity, as you would certainly do more harm then good with your cynical attitude towards police.

Let me just say that "No", nobody put a gun to my head or to the head of any of the hundreds of fine men & women I know who at one time or another proudly wore a law enforcement uniform. Are there some out there now or in the past that should not have been in this profession, "Yes". But having worked for decades side by side with hundreds of fellow law enforcement officers at multiple agencies, I personally know just how rare it is to have a rogue cop out in the field with todays scrutiny of police. The real problem today in this profession, is that society ONLY concentrates on and captures the moment a law enforcement officer makes a mistake or very rarely commits a crime. The unfortunate result of this constant news search to look for and then sensationalize any story of a cop doing wrong, gives society the impression that most cops are out of control and doing wrong. The facts however, neglect to show that these are very isolated incidents in comparison to the tens of thousands of law enforcement officers that do proudly and courageously "Protect & Serve" our communities, despite being horribly paid. I wish that before some of these misguided folks formed a opinion on how cops should act, they had the chance to ride along or spend even one day patrolling a urban, high populated area.

I'll close by saying that it is quite sad that society and the media seems to only concentrate and pay attention to the negatives, particularly whenever law enforcement is involved and completely overlooks and ignores the overwhelming majority of cops who are doing great things and more often then not, going above & beyond the call of duty. What seems to get lost in all of this is the fact that cops are being killed & injured at astonishing record levels right now across America, yet the media, mostly the liberal Democratic media, would rather do a big story about agencies having access to Armored Personnel Vehicles (not tanks!) which shield these officers from gunfire! Let me just add this; and that's the fact that everybody keeps yelling about how this was a unarmed encounter between Officer Wilson and Michael Brown, when in reality there was a firearm involved, the one that Officer Wilson rightfully wore on his gunbelt. Additionally, the number of law enforcement officers that end up dead after being shot with their own handgun following a scuffle is staggering. What's even more sad is the fact that IF THIS HAD HAPPENED IN THIS FERGUSON CASE, it would have been nothing more then a "blip" on the national radar screen. Now maybe some can understand the frustration, stress and sense of hopelessness that many cops feel and deal with on a daily basis as well.

[Unregistered]

A few weeks ago the Ferguson police chief held his first press conferences regarding the killing of Brown. At that conference the chief was asked how many shots were fired by the officer. The chief responded that no more then a couple of shots were fired. A couple is termed as two by most people.
Now, a better number could have been arrived at if a simple count of the spent brass from the officers weapon had been counted. For whatever the reason the chief decided to go with, just a couple of shots.

Well possible new evidence has now come to light that may just prove that the chief is either an idiot who can not count or is an outright liar.

A newly surfaced audio recording allegedly captures the exact moment that unarmed teen Michael Brown was shot and killed by Ferguson police officer Darren Wilson.

According to an attorney for an unidentified man who lives in an apartment building near the site of the shooting, the recording captures as many as 11 shots fired in the Aug. 9 incident.

The audio, which was played on CNN Monday night, could not immediately be verified by The Washington Post. But a burst of gunfire can be heard (six shots), followed by a pause, and then several more shots (at least four).

“He was in his apartment, he was talking to a friend on a video chat, he heard loud noises and at the moment — at the time he didn’t realize the import of what he was hearing until afterwards,” the man’s lawyer, Lopa Blumenthal, said in an interview with CNN’s Don Lemon. “It just happened to capture 12 seconds of what transpired outside of his building.”

According to Blumenthal, FBI agents came to her office on Monday to interview the man about the recording.

The 12 second-audio clip is the only using a cell-phone app that only records short excerpts of a video conversation. It captured nothing before the shots began and nothing after. The man, who would like to remain anonymous, has asked that the accompanying video not be shown, Blumenthal said in an interview with The Post.

She first learned of the audio clip through the man’s roommate, who is a former client, and she urged him to share it with authorities.

“He was there when the event happened,” Blumenthal said, adding that he initially assumed the noise was fireworks not gunshots. “He is a very private person and he his not seeking publicity of any kind whatsoever. He was even unaware that this tape was relevant to anyone.”

A newly surfaced audio recording allegedly captures the exact moment that unarmed teen Michael Brown was shot and killed by Ferguson police officer Darren Wilson.

According to an attorney for an unidentified man who lives in an apartment building near the site of the shooting, the recording captures as many as 11 shots fired in the Aug. 9 incident.

The audio, which was played on CNN Monday night, could not immediately be verified by The Washington Post. But a burst of gunfire can be heard (six shots), followed by a pause, and then several more shots (at least four).

“He was in his apartment, he was talking to a friend on a video chat, he heard loud noises and at the moment — at the time he didn’t realize the import of what he was hearing until afterwards,” the man’s lawyer, Lopa Blumenthal, said in an interview with CNN’s Don Lemon. “It just happened to capture 12 seconds of what transpired outside of his building.”

According to Blumenthal, FBI agents came to her office on Monday to interview the man about the recording.

The 12 second-audio clip is the only using a cell-phone app that only records short excerpts of a video conversation. It captured nothing before the shots began and nothing after. The man, who would like to remain anonymous, has asked that the accompanying video not be shown, Blumenthal said in an interview with The Post.

She first learned of the audio clip through the man’s roommate, who is a former client, and she urged him to share it with authorities.

“He was there when the event happened,” Blumenthal said, adding that he initially assumed the noise was fireworks not gunshots. “He is a very private person and he his not seeking publicity of any kind whatsoever. He was even unaware that this tape was relevant to anyone.”

Neither Ferguson nor St. Louis County police have contacted the man or Blumenthal about the video. After interviewing him on Monday, she said the FBI indicated that they planned to speak with him again on Tuesday.

Autopsy reports conducted by St. Louis County and by the Brown family found that Brown had been shot at least six times, including twice in the head.

Now here is what I find very interesting about the audio. There is an initial sound of what appears to be six shots fired. A few seconds pause and another round of what appears to be four shots heard.
Now if this audio is found to be authentic it would collaborate the eyewitness accounts of several people. They state that the officer fired numerous shots at the victim as he ran from the officer. After being hit the victim stopped and turned towards the officer who kept approaching the victim and fired his weapon several times again.

What else is very interesting is that neither the Ferguson PD nor St. Louis County Police have shown the slightest bit of interest in acquiring a copy of the audio, just the FBI.


A couple days ago, the FBI reported that it had obtained an audio recording of Michael Brown’s murder by Officer Darren Wilson. This stunning evidence was delivered into the hands of the Bureau by unnamed man living in an apartment near the shooting.

It just so happens that at the time, the man was recording a video message for a friend, and the app recorded the sounds of either 10 or 11 shots (recent analysis says 10) fired during the encounter.

The man, not recognizing the gunfire for what it was until afterward, continued in his affectionate conversation until he went out to check on the source of the noise. But you can clearly hear the shots, coming in roughly two groups:

One..Two…Three Four Five Six…(three second pause)…Seven..Eight…Nine Ten.


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Posted by: Richard Rowe in Breaking News, Crime, Videos August 28, 2014
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A couple days ago, the FBI reported that it had obtained an audio recording of Michael Brown’s murder by Officer Darren Wilson. This stunning evidence was delivered into the hands of the Bureau by unnamed man living in an apartment near the shooting.

It just so happens that at the time, the man was recording a video message for a friend, and the app recorded the sounds of either 10 or 11 shots (recent analysis says 10) fired during the encounter.

The man, not recognizing the gunfire for what it was until afterward, continued in his affectionate conversation until he went out to check on the source of the noise. But you can clearly hear the shots, coming in roughly two groups:

One..Two…Three Four Five Six…(three second pause)…Seven..Eight…Nine Ten

What’s most disturbing, and most telling about the shots isn’t just the number of shots fired, but the way they were fired. Particularly that conspicuous pause in the middle.


Home • Breaking News • Analysts Confirm Audio Tape of Darren Wilson Firing TEN Shots at Michael Brown
Analysts Confirm Audio Tape of Darren Wilson Firing TEN Shots at Michael Brown

Posted by: Richard Rowe in Breaking News, Crime, Videos August 28, 2014
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A couple days ago, the FBI reported that it had obtained an audio recording of Michael Brown’s murder by Officer Darren Wilson. This stunning evidence was delivered into the hands of the Bureau by unnamed man living in an apartment near the shooting.

It just so happens that at the time, the man was recording a video message for a friend, and the app recorded the sounds of either 10 or 11 shots (recent analysis says 10) fired during the encounter.

The man, not recognizing the gunfire for what it was until afterward, continued in his affectionate conversation until he went out to check on the source of the noise. But you can clearly hear the shots, coming in roughly two groups:

One..Two…Three Four Five Six…(three second pause)…Seven..Eight…Nine Ten

What’s most disturbing, and most telling about the shots isn’t just the number of shots fired, but the way they were fired. Particularly that conspicuous pause in the middle.

It was likely during this time that Michael Brown turned around, Wilson stopped pursuing, and deliberately readjusted his aim to hit Brown square in the head as he was falling.

Those familiar with guns and pistols in particular know that firing a pistol repeatedly as Wilson does on shots three through six causes the gun’s barrel to rise; this forces the shooter to pause for a moment to lower the barrel and reacquire the target. These “tracking” pauses each indicate a target reacquisition; every time you hear one, Wilson is adjusting his aim.

The audio was confirmed to have been recorded at or near the time Brown was murdered by the video chat app’s developers, Glide. This authentication by Glide makes the audio evidence de facto admissible as evidence in court…

The audio of the gun shots dovetails right in with several eyewitness accounts of how the shooting went down.

[Unregistered]

I also have extensive training in the tactical use of firearms and the pause in the gunfire could have occurred for many different scenarios. Depending on what side of the incident so many foolish people have chosen to take without knowing ALL THE FACTS, a biased minded person will irrationally determine how the gunfire audio tape fits their belief of what happened. It's sad that after so much progress in this nation to stamp out racism, including the election of a African American President and the appointment of a African American Attorney General among many other instances of equality, it is pathetically obvious that the African American citizens of this nation will NEVER be satisfied. Honestly, if this Free Nation, where tens of thousands of brave Serviceman have died to protect is so terrible in your opinion, then PLEASE LEAVE. I promise you that you will quickly find out just how good you have it here. I also promise you that no other country will bend over backward as much as the United States has to appease the African American citizens of this country. The vast majority of ALL AMERICANS are just trying to survive and raise their families in this country and are growing sick and tired of having to listen to the "Race Card" excuse every time something happens between races or doesn't go how African Americans want it.

Please stop listening to the Al Sharpton's, Jesse Jackson's and Louis Farrakhan's, who are only out for themselves and trying to line their own pockets with blood money. Please try listening for a change to the growing number of Conservative African Americans in this country that are simply asking for TRUE EQUALITY for ALL RACES and place attention on the root causes of the perceived racial divide among us. It's NOT the color of ones skin that is keeping some from their full potential in this country, but rather the sense of hopelessness and despair that all races in this country face when the economy is struggling. More importantly, it starts at home in the African American communities, where the absence of a father figure or many times any attentive parent is the biggest contributor to young males and females finding themselves on the wrong side of the law. In turn, these frequent negative contacts with the police leads to the incorrect thought process that the police are the enemy in the minds of many African Americans. I think that is a natural response, but not a correct or fair one. On top of this, it is difficult for police agencies to find qualified African American applicants due to the totality of the above mentioned circumstances and it is again unfair to automatically criticize the police departments when they don't have a abundance of African American officers.

There have been so many mistakes made during this entire Ferguson incident, some rightfully due to the fact that Ferguson is a small agency and has never before dealt with a police involved shooting, which by itself alone shows that the department and it's officers are certainly not trigger happy and looking to gun down African American males, as some want to portray them as doing. Additionally, with all the perceived racial mistrust of the police by African Americans in this country, just imagine how difficult it is for a police officer to do their jobs in this racially charged atmosphere. The police are humans too and they grow very weary and over time get extremely frustrated with the well known lack of cooperation and assistance they get while working in these communities. Many times they are there simply trying to help a African American crime victim and can't get any community assistance, but rather nothing but hindrance and racial name calling by the community. Ultimately, I wish both sides could switch shoes for a extended period of time, so that each could better understand the barriers that have been created over a extended period of time between the police and many African Americans in this country.

[St. Paddy]

Please show in the following posts #1,3,4,6,8,9,10,13,16,18 where race was mentioned in the shooting of Michael Brown.
You will be looking for a long damn time. Do you know why? Because the race of the shooting victim and the officer involved is never mentioned once.
Try as you might, and for as long as you might, you just are not going to find it in any of them. You on the other hand, state you are tired of the "race card" being played all the time, yet you pointedly bring it up numerous times. Not just two or three times, you bring it up over a dozen times in in just three paragraphs.
In fact with the exception of your first two sentences, which is about 2% of your entire post, the other 98% is nothing but about race.

Your writings have the taint like they came straight out of Stormfront or Vanguard.

I mentioned this once before to another poster who was tired of "the race card" being played all the time. Like you though he did nothing but deal out that card game over and over.

So here goes, I am a Irish American cop. Or more to your thinking and labeling, A ****, a Paddy, a Taig or the ever popular potato eater.

Now with that, take your "I'm not a racist" racist attitude and shove it where you put your lips on your watch commander. That is if you even are an LEO.

[Unregistered]

For those of you waiting for an incident report from the shooting of Michael Brown–stop. There isn’t one. Ferguson police say that they did not file an incident report on the shooting of unarmed teenager Michael Brown because they turned the case over to the St. Louis County police almost immediately, according to the county prosecutor.

According to St. Louis County Prosecuting Attorney Robert P. McCulloch, police chose to release the incident report from a “robbery” in which Brown is a suspect, as well as security video, because that’s all they had. The St. Louis County police department may have filed one, but those documents will not be made public until a grand jury investigating the murder concludes its investigation.

Unfortunately, zoomed in footage of the video they provided seems to show Brown paying for the cigarillos. In fact, the store owner spoke out through his attorney and clarified that neither he, nor any employee called police. A customer, in fact, placed the call because he or she thought the store was robbed. Ferguson police asked for the video. “‘During the course of Ferguson’s investigation, the police department from Ferguson, came to the store and asked for to review the tape,” Ferguson Market’s attorney explained.

Interestingly, there is no dash camera footage, either. Ferguson does possess dash cameras, as well as body cameras, but is too cheap to actually install them.

Accounts of the shooting greatly differ. Ferguson police say that Brown attacked Wilson in his car and then ran away. By their own account, Officer Wilson began firing at Brown and his friend Dorian Johnson as they fled–though they say that no bullets hit Brown while his back was turned–something that is heavily disputed by the results of an independent autopsy.

Allegedly, Brown turned around and ran toward the officer who was shooting at him–though his injuries are consistent with the teenager’s arms being raised. At least one bullet entered “back-to-front.” The only wounds that were not caused by bullets were abrasions on Brown’s face from when he fell after the final shot was fired.

Many are desperate to believe the police account. On Tuesday, the Gateway Pundit “broke” a story that Darren Wilson suffered an orbital blowout fracture of his eye socket during his confrontation with Brown. The blogger presented some damning evidence: a CT scan that purportedly showed the fracture. What he didn’t mention is that the image is not of Wilson, and is from the University of Iowa (though he was careful to scrub that information from the image).

The Ku Klux Klan and other groups of white people have joined forces to support Michael Brown’s murderer. Together, they have raised more than $200,000 to reward Michael Brown’s killer for ridding the world of another “typical low-IQ Negro.”
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Report or no report.......as this is an open investigation you really have no legal right to see what may or may not be in any reports about this incident.

[Unregistered]

Report or no report.......as this is an open investigation you really have no legal right to see what may or may not be in any reports about this incident. But it was legal for the department to release the convenience store video which could be evidence right? Nice try in wanting to cover for the departments lack of openness to the public.

[Unregistered]

A Missouri police officer who was caught on video raising his weapon and telling Ferguson protesters that he would kill them has resigned from the force.

Lt. Ray Albers, 46, stepped down from the St. Ann police department on Thursday, the St. Louis Dispatch reported. The resignation comes just a little over a week after news outlets confirmed Albers' identity in footage of the officer threatening civilians protesting the death of Michael Brown.

"I will ****ing kill you!" Albers shouts on video, his weapon pointed at unarmed protesters.

When asked his name, Albers can be heard telling the protester: "Go **** yourself."

Albers, who served in the military, was a 20-year veteran of the department.

In an earlier interview, St. Ann Police Chief Aaron Jimenez said he was "highly angry and upset" at Albers' choice of words, but defended the officer's use of raising his weapon in the air.

According to The Dispatch, Jimenez said if the incident in Ferguson happened at any other time, Albers would have been suspended without pay.

"A whole bunch of what you'd call citizen journalists, who were sitting with cameras recording, waiting for something stupid to happen, which they got. They won on this one," Jimenez told the publication. With that shit attitude I bet Jimenez must have a great re-pore with the news media.

Yes by all means blame the public, not the fact that the Albers was an over reactionary asshole chief. Another famous non-apology, apology.

Here is the Lt. last public photograph.

http://i0.huffpost.com/gen/1976882/thumbs/n-ALBERS-large.jpg

[Unregistered]

Please show in the following posts #1,3,4,6,8,9,10,13,16,18 where race was mentioned in the shooting of Michael Brown.
You will be looking for a long damn time. Do you know why? Because the race of the shooting victim and the officer involved is never mentioned once.
Try as you might, and for as long as you might, you just are not going to find it in any of them. You on the other hand, state you are tired of the "race card" being played all the time, yet you pointedly bring it up numerous times. Not just two or three times, you bring it up over a dozen times in in just three paragraphs.
In fact with the exception of your first two sentences, which is about 2% of your entire post, the other 98% is nothing but about race.

Your writings have the taint like they came straight out of Stormfront or Vanguard.

I mentioned this once before to another poster who was tired of "the race card" being played all the time. Like you though he did nothing but deal out that card game over and over.

So here goes, I am a Irish American cop. Or more to your thinking and labeling, A ****, a Paddy, a Taig or the ever popular potato eater.

Now with that, take your "I'm not a racist" racist attitude and shove it where you put your lips on your watch commander. That is if you even are an LEO.

Your a darn fool, plain and simple. This entire incident has been sadly based upon race since day #1, or are you too stupid to have seen or heard any of the protests? You actually win the dumbest post of the year award and certainly are not like any of the hundreds of top notch Irish American Cops I have met and worked alongside over the years. You must actually have a potato for a brain if you think anything that you posted is true. Now go back to your mental health institution, as I'm sure they have most likely reported your psycho butt missing. Wow are you one dumb box of rocks.

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What I have always found severely lacking for law officers, is their testing for and ability to access treatment for Post Traumatic Stress Disorder (PTSD). Many U.S. military soldiers come back from serving only months under extremely stressful and potentially lethal conditions and suffer severely from PTSD. Now compare that to many law officers who often spend sometimes as much as 10 to 30 years working under very stressful and potentially lethal conditions and there is practically no emphasis or seemingly non-punitive access for PTSD treatment. Why is that? I know for a fact that one of the reasons is that cops are afraid that they will look weak or lose their job if they report symptoms of PTSD.

I think the number of officers on the street RIGHT NOW suffering from PTSD symptoms is enormously high and a factor that has been overlooked or just ignored for a very long time and probably getting worse. Gone now are the days when a cop could just come in and simply go work his "beat" (assigned area) and concentrate mainly on catching criminals. Instead, today's law officers have to "multi-task" like never before and have a list of tasks a mile long, all the while trying to drive to calls while talking to dispatch, supervisors and zone partners on their cell phones, type on their in-car laptop computers and then listen to and talk on their police radios. All that while just getting to many calls for service. Then after arriving on the calls, deal with solving peoples lifelong problems and often confronting violent offenders who don't like the idea of going to jail. The list of additional tasks that many departments now put on their officers in addition to those above is beyond belief. Now try doing this for say 15 or 20 years and think what that does to any normal human being. We have to have many people who are willing to do this critical job, so please save those who like to say, "Hey nobody forced you to do it", as we are all human beings and anyone would get stressed out over time. Add on to that the fact that most depts. force their officers to work at least 20 to 30 years before they qualify for any sort of pension.

I just think that PTSD among many law officers is very much a big part of the problem and yet it has been dangerously overlooked and misdiagnosed. I wonder if most people realize that the life expectancy of a retired law officer in this country is FIVE YEARS!...many by suicide or heart attack. That's a researched fact and I believe PTSD is a big part of the problem.

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But it was legal for the department to release the convenience store video which could be evidence right? Nice try in wanting to cover for the departments lack of openness to the public.

I'm not covering anyone or any department, just stating a fact. "Openness to the public" does not trump conducting a through investigation and no department ,city, or the citizens therein should succomb to mob rule.
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Your a darn fool, plain and simple. This entire incident has been sadly based upon race since day #1, or are you too stupid to have seen or heard any of the protests? You actually win the dumbest post of the year award and certainly are not like any of the hundreds of top notch Irish American Cops I have met and worked alongside over the years. You must actually have a potato for a brain if you think anything that you posted is true. Now go back to your mental health institution, as I'm sure they have most likely reported your psycho butt missing. Wow are you one dumb box of rocks.You are the first one to state that the shooting was racially motivated.
As for me posting anything that was incorrect, what kind of factual information do you have to prove that any of my information was false or incorrect? I mean other then your self opinionated reply. As I posted several days ago before, you know what opinions are like correct? Well you are talking out of yours.

You have no real information to counter with. Do you know how I can tell? Because the only thing that you have offered up is grade school name calling ad hominem attacks and nothing more.

God, I can not wait for your next Bart Simpson intellectual style response.

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I'm not covering anyone or any department, just stating a fact. "Openness to the public" does not trump conducting a through investigation and no department ,city, or the citizens therein should succomb to mob rule.
'Could not help but notice that you did not answer my question about the release of the conveyance store video evidence by the department. I am still waiting on an answer to that one. "Just stating a fact."

If the department is doing such an in depth, and through investigation, let me ask this question.
Why in the hell has the city still not asked for a copy of the audio of the gun shots from the FBI? One would think that the department would want such a significant piece of physical evidence in conducting a fair and through investigation wouldn't you?

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Could not help but notice that you did not answer my question about the release of the conveyance store video evidence by the department. I am still waiting on an answer to that one. "Just stating a fact."

If the department is doing such an in depth, and through investigation, let me ask this question.
Why in the hell has the city still not asked for a copy of the audio of the gun shots from the FBI? One would think that the department would want such a significant piece of physical evidence in conducting a fair and through investigation wouldn't you?

and u know this how ?

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Could not help but notice that you did not answer my question about the release of the conveyance store video evidence by the department. I am still waiting on an answer to that one. "Just stating a fact."

If the department is doing such an in depth, and through investigation, let me ask this question.
Why in the hell has the city still not asked for a copy of the audio of the gun shots from the FBI? One would think that the department would want such a significant piece of physical evidence in conducting a fair and through investigation wouldn't you?

As far as you question............... they can released what they feel fit to, and I'll speculate like you are since you need an answer. Maybe they hoped by releasing some of the truth people would stop looting...

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and u know this how ? One of the advantages of being an LEO and having a LEO relative in Dixon who works for the Missouri Department of Public Safety.

Even before the shooting, every time a complaint report about the Ferguson PD came to the MDPS office everyone cringed with a "not again" look on their face.
The MDPS has been involved with the incident from the start. If you had any knowledge of the case other then the BS you hear, you would know that.

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One of the advantages of being an LEO and having a LEO relative in Dixon who works for the Missouri Department of Public Safety.

Even before the shooting, every time a complaint report about the Ferguson PD came to the MDPS office everyone cringed with a "not again" look on their face.
The MDPS has been involved with the incident from the start. If you had any knowledge of the case other then the BS you hear, you would know that.

Well there you go , that certainly proves all the facts of this case !

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Why anybody would actually want to be a law enforcement officer anymore in this country is beyond me. If I was them I would not go out of my way to do one extra thing for that community in Ferguson, or at this point anywhere in this screwed up country we now live in. The criminals have all the rights now and the cops are left being seen as nearly always guilty and must now PROVE that they are innocent. Isn't it supposed to be the other way around. Now Eric Holder has opened up a totally new investigation trying in vain to dig up any Civil Rights Violation Case he and his biased legal staff can find. It was also mentioned that the investigation is not limited to just Ferguson, but all the St Louis area police agencies. For those that recall, this same crack legal team that Holder put together, are the same ones that got caught outright lying under oath to a Federal Judge in New Orleans, after they used denied using the internet to make false posts about the investigation they were working and then denied it under oath. Somebody please tell me why these individuals with obvious biased anti-police backgrounds, who eventually admitted to lying under oath during the New Orleans case, are STILL actively employed for the DOJ?

The moment a cop gets caught lying under oath his or her career is OVER and I have no problem with that. Yet here we have multiple DOJ legal investigators still employed by the DOJ and even worse off, still assigned to investigate alleged police civil rights violations? Any decent defense attorney is going to break it off in their rearends the moment they get on any witness stand. Also, doesn't anybody find it quite troubling that the DOJ under a racially biased and outright liberal Eric Holder has not done one thing to investigate the IRS targeting American Citizens who were part of certain Republican Organizations? I guess Holder was right when he called out to a certain race of American Citizens and called them all COWARDS when it came to race! Yea, I'm sure he will be real fair and unbiased toward the white police officer.

Again, anyone that even considers thinking of becoming a police officer in this country right now is nuts. I say let the thugs have free reign and see how long it lasts before all the police haters in this country become a victim of violent crimes like, murder, massive looting, home invasions, robbery and the list goes on and on. I honestly was pro Obama and thought he might actually do some good as President, but he has been a complete disaster, both domestically and internationally. We now have wars breaking out all over the globe because the world now sees first hand just how weak of a leader he is. His appointment of Eric Holder, his buddy, has also been a complete disaster and this country will take decades to recover from all the damage these two have done in just six years. How we will survive two more years I really don't know. Obama cares about one thing, HIMSELF, along with playing golf and high fiving his buddies while terrorists are beheading our citizens and planning on God knows how many terrorists attacks inside the United States. Any rational person with a "SMIDGEN" of common sense would be sending all these DOJ agents to track down these stateside terrorists before the BIG ONE happens, and it's not "if" but just a matter of "When".

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Surprised, you did not bring in Benghazi, IRS, Kenyian, Muslim Brotherhood, or fake birth certificate. Straight our of FreedomWorks pal. Where the **** was all your anger an outcry when G.W. was screwing up this nation and throwing up the damn Patriot Act? You were cheering that piss of shit when it was rolled out.
You no more voted for Obama then the Grand Dragon of the KKK did.
Just keep ignoring blatant officer misconduct. Especially by repeat offenders.

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Surprised, you did not bring in Benghazi, IRS, Kenyian, Muslim Brotherhood, or fake birth certificate. Straight our of FreedomWorks pal. Where the **** was all your anger an outcry when G.W. was screwing up this nation and throwing up the damn Patriot Act? You were cheering that piss of shit when it was rolled out.
You no more voted for Obama then the Grand Dragon of the KKK did.
Just keep ignoring blatant officer misconduct. Especially by repeat offenders.

Just like your supposedly a white Irish American, right? It's the scum like you that has brought this nation to a Third World Country. I bet you also approve of leaving our border wide open as well. Theres no cure for the insane ignorants like you that breath the same air. You are fooling nobody with your Irish immitation act. If you ever went to Ireland and talked the "smack" that you do on here, they would stone you to death. Must suck to have a criminal record and go through life blaming the police for your owm ignorance. I'm done responding back to anyone that hides their true colors and has a zero IQ. The human brain on "Crack" & "meth" is a mirror of you. Now go pee pee like a good little boy for your Probation Officer. Now post away coward! Irish......OMG, LMAO!

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Just like your supposedly a white Irish American, right? It's the scum like you that has brought this nation to a Third World Country. I bet you also approve of leaving our border wide open as well. Theres no cure for the insane ignorants like you that breath the same air. You are fooling nobody with your Irish immitation act. If you ever went to Ireland and talked the "smack" that you do on here, they would stone you to death. Must suck to have a criminal record and go through life blaming the police for your owm ignorance. I'm done responding back to anyone that hides their true colors and has a zero IQ. The human brain on "Crack" & "meth" is a mirror of you. Now go pee pee like a good little boy for your Probation Officer. Now post away coward! Irish......OMG, LMAO! Sorry former officer Page but I'm Taig Irish not a heartless bigoted Proddy such as yourself.

I can say when I retire in less then nine months that I did not turn the profession of law enforcement into nothing more then a paid band of mindless vigilantes.
You would have fit in just fine with the 1 Para that pulled the trigger in Bogside Sunday evening. Must go now have much more actual facts to place here to inform people.

I'm counting the days when I can get my six figure DROP check and languish in relaxation knowing I was what a law enforcement officer was really supposed to be.

You on the other hand will be making the rounds at the tinfoil hat wearers meetings spouting your hate and anger that you generated over the years.

With any luck you will fall into rank of the other "I got no respect as a cop" group. With in seven years you will either have a stroke, heart attack, drink yourself to death our swallow your old off duty gun.

If you have any care left for the public you treated like crap, you would spare them and me any more of your hate filled anger and immediately apply the latter of the four above mentioned.

Have a real great day disgraced Officer Krupke (ret.)

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Sorry former officer Page but I'm Taig Irish not a heartless bigoted Proddy such as yourself.

I can say when I retire in less then nine months that I did not turn the profession of law enforcement into nothing more then a paid band of mindless vigilantes.
You would have fit in just fine with the 1 Para that pulled the trigger in Bogside Sunday evening. Must go now have much more actual facts to place here to inform people.

I'm counting the days when I can get my six figure DROP check and languish in relaxation knowing I was what a law enforcement officer was really supposed to be.

You on the other hand will be making the rounds at the tinfoil hat wearers meetings spouting your hate and anger that you generated over the years.

With any luck you will fall into rank of the other "I got no respect as a cop" group. With in seven years you will either have a stroke, heart attack, drink yourself to death our swallow your old off duty gun.

If you have any care left for the public you treated like crap, you would spare them and me any more of your hate filled anger and immediately apply the latter of the four above mentioned.

Have a real great day disgraced Officer Krupke (ret.)

Personally I have to agree with the former poster who called you out for what acting like a scumbag on here. No current police officer would wish for a fellow brother officer to die or have a stroke like you just did in your above post. You have got to be one mentally disturbed person and if indeed you still are a current police officer, you are a disgrace to all the fine men & women that wear or have worn the police uniform with pride and distinction. You need help brother, honestly you do and I pray you find it. Despite how I might feel about you right now in regards to your post, if you wear the uniform you are still family to me, so please be safe and watch your six brother.

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Did you all just see the video of the young Caucasian couple that were brutally attacked and severely beaten by a group of about 5 or 6 African American Males in Springfield, Missouri yesterday? It certainly looked like a 'Hate Crime' to me based upon what the news said about the nearby witnesses hearing the males calling the Caucasian couple all kinds of racial slurs as they were being brutally attacked. Apparently the female sustained a fractured ankle, cheekbone and possible nose and the male sustained multiple cuts & bruises. Hmm, I wonder if Eric Holder will divert some of his already nearby agents on this case, since it involves a possible aggravated hate crime and a clear video.

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Did you all just see the video of the young Caucasian couple that were brutally attacked and severely beaten by a group of about 5 or 6 African American Males in Springfield, Missouri yesterday? It certainly looked like a 'Hate Crime' to me based upon what the news said about the nearby witnesses hearing the males calling the Caucasian couple all kinds of racial slurs as they were being brutally attacked. Apparently the female sustained a fractured ankle, cheekbone and possible nose and the male sustained multiple cuts & bruises.
Hmm, I wonder if Eric Holder will divert some of his already nearby agents on this case, since it involves a possible aggravated hate crime and a clear video.


No, Eric Holder is too busy (not) investigating the 9/26/14 savage beatings (attempted murder?) of a 2 white servicemen, a U.S. Marine and Iraq War veteran and his friend, an Air Force veteran of the Afghanistan war outside of a Huddle House (Waffle House?) in West Point, Mississippi, following some sort of altercation with a group of about 20 black men who had “gotten themselves into a frenzy” over the Ferguson shooting.

http://topconservativenews.com/2014/08/media-has-been-lying-about-condition-of-west-point-victim-he-may-be-brain-dead/

Media has been lying about condition of West Point victim. He may be brain dead

We told that the black police chief insulted the victims and downplayed the crime. We told you how CBS Atlanta ran a hoax segment falsely portraying the attackers as a mixed race group. Now, the family of the victim says everyone is lying about his condition. The media has universally been lying when they claim he is in “fair condition.” Or when police chief Tim Brinkly insulting characterized his injuries as “got hurt.”

The US Marine that was brutally beaten solely, because of the color of his skin, may be forced to live out his days in a vegetative state. This according to his stepson Barry Reynolds.

From The Blaze…
Step-dad of Marine Brutally Beaten in Parking Lot: ‘Painful Truth’ Is Media Would Care More If Races Were Switched

http://www.theblaze.com/stories/2014/08/27/stepdad-of-marine-brutally-beaten-in-parking-lot-painful-truth-is-media-would-care-more-if-races-were-switched/#

My favorite part:


"This does not appear to be a hate crime," West Point Police Chief Tim Brinkley said in a press release, according to the Clarion-Ledger. "It's very early in this investigation but thus far the evidence and statements suggest that a verbal altercation turned physical and somebody got hurt."

http://www.clarionledger.com/story/news/2014/08/25/witness-beaten-man-told-restaurant-safe-whites/14575453/

Family members say a West Point man is in a Tupelo hospital after he and another man were attacked in a Huddle House parking lot by up to 20 people.

Ralph Weems, a 32-year-old Marine and Iraq war veteran, is in fair condition today according to officials at North Mississippi Medical Center.

Monday evening, police arrested 22-year-old Courtez McMillian of Okolona. He is being held in the Clay County Detention Center and will be charged with aggravated assault.
Related Link: Police make arrest in beating, others expected

Brinkley said other arrests are also pending, and that most, if not all of the assailants appear to come from Monroe County. Detectives are reviewing video footage of the incident.

The Associated Press reports that Weems went to a Waffle House early Saturday. His friend David Knighten, an Air Force veteran of the Afghanistan war who was with him, told reporters that a man told him politely outside the restaurant that it wasn't a safe place for whites, because people were upset by the killing of 18-year-old Michael Brown in Ferguson, Missouri.
Knighten said when he entered the restaurant, Weems was arguing with some people inside. The argument brought police, and Knighten and Weems left. On their way to Weems' house, they stopped at a Huddle House with an empty parking lot, according to the Associated Press.

The pair was followed to Huddle House by what Knighten said was around 20 people. Witnesses told police that the group was made up of black men, but couldn't identify any of them. One witness did provide a vehicle description and police said they are working on identifying the owner.

Knighten told reporters he was trying to diffuse the situation. When a security guard told everyone to leave, Knighten said he was blocked from getting to Weems, who was on the ground being kicked by a group of people. Knighten said others then attacked him.
"I do remember racial slurs being yelled from the crowd," he told the Associated Press.

Knighten couldn't be reached for comment so far on Monday, but he posted on Facebook Saturday.
"All my injuries were minor fractures and lacerations. I just wish I could have reached him sooner. Please keep your thoughts and prayers on Ralph," he wrote.
Brinkley, who could not be reached for comment Monday, said in the release that the attack right now is an aggravated assault investigation, and that the cause is not yet determined.

"This does not appear to be a hate crime," he said. "It's very early in this investigation but thus far the evidence and statements suggest that a verbal altercation turned physical and somebody got hurt."
Investigators are reviewing surveillance video and putting together a list of suspects. Brinkley encouraged those involved with come forward voluntarily before arrest warrants are issued.
Police said it is not theirs to charge a hate crime if the situation does turn out to be racially motivated, but that the District Attorney's office and the Mississippi Bureau of Investigation have been briefed.


"It's up to the Grand Jury to make this determination. All we do is process the evidence and turn the case over to the District Attorney who in turn presents it to the Grand Jury. It's within their discretion to add the hate crime enhancement," Brinkley said.

------wow, by the book. No racial bias here!
Anyone with information is asked to call Crime Stoppers at (800) 530-7151 or the West Point Police Department at (662) 494-1244.

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“Not all cops are bad.” If you’re a liberal critic of the Missouri police’s massive overreaction to the protests in Ferguson, Missouri, it’s likely you’ve heard this familiar refrain in recent weeks. The tragic shooting of Michael Brown by Ferguson police officer Darren Wilson has brought police overreach, abuse and creeping militarization to the forefront of our national political conversation. But defenders of police have also come out in support of those who form the “thin blue line” that ostensibly separates us from all the ugliness, cruelty and lawlessness in the world.


So not all cops are bad — sure. But there are a number of good reasons why we shouldn’t support their actions reflexively — or rush to their side when one of them does something truly awful.

These are not your parents’ cops

As numerous commentators have already noted, American police have undergone a massive transformation in recent decades. Militarized police departments are on the rise, with no sign of this trend slowing any time soon. It started with the war on drugs in the ’80s, followed by the now-famous “1033 Program,” a federal program that allows the military to sell discount weapons, supplies and munitions to local police departments, capped off finally by a massive infusion of new resources following the Sept. 11 attacks. (And while the 1033 program has earned the bulk of the attention, it’s important to note that it’s “only” provided local cops with $4.3 billion in new supplies, a number dwarfed by the $34 billion the Department of Homeland Security has provided since 9/11.)

There are plenty of great explainers that you can read about how all of this came to be; the Intercept’s Glenn Greenwald recently provided a useful summary, as did Amanda Taub for Vox. But even if these accounts do nothing to change your perception of the police today, one must ask: Where does it end? At what point do cops become so weaponized, so hostile to their citizenry and shielded from responsibility or blame that our suspicions of the institution gain merit? And crucially — who gets to decide?

“Not All Cops Are Bad” is a meaningless concept when taken to its logical conclusion

There are clearly limits to the formulation that “not all cops are bad,” and almost everyone would agree that individual “goodness” can become irrelevant when an individual’s actions are in service of a corrupt institution. That American police forces aren’t nearly as amoral as, say, the Gestapo (the secret police of Nazi Germany) is a question of degree, not one of kind. Once we allow that “Not all cops are bad” can’t possibly apply to the Gestapo in any meaningful way, we tacitly acknowledge that there are limits to the formulation more generally. (If comparing American cops to the Gestapo seems hyperbolic, that’s the point.) Whether or not those limits have already been reached by U.S. police departments is irrelevant here. After all, some might find the abuses highlighted by the press in recent years to be not especially extreme or unacceptable given the difficulty of the profession and the enormous challenge of making snap judgments regarding lethal force … but surely, plenty of residents of Ferguson would disagree. Saying “not all cops are bad,” then, becomes dangerously close to saying “people like me get to determine when the conduct of police officers has become bad enough to merit our attention and concern, but people like you don’t.”

The people saying “not all cops are bad” usually aren’t the ones being victimized by “good cops”

Recently, 125 people came together in Missouri to support Darren Wilson. One hundred and twenty-four of them were white.

It’s “**** the Police,” not “**** a Police”

I would hazard to guess that many liberals who’ve written critically of police in the last few weeks have themselves enjoyed good experiences with cops in their own lives. The majority of prominent liberal writers, after all, are white men from middle-class backgrounds. These are not typically the people treated most brutally or arbitrarily. (And I am no exception: My experiences with cops have been especially positive.) Supporters of police might wish that we’d use those experiences to defend cops from critics, but it’s near impossible when those positive anecdotes are contrasted with the outright-hostile attitude that people of color regularly experience.

When liberals are being critical of cops, the criticism is largely directed at the institution itself, with its habit of overreaching its authority and protecting its own from prosecution whenever possible. It’s an institution that generally bristles at the mere suggestion that oversight is needed (rather than, say, acknowledging oversight as a crucial element of any system that bequeaths exceptional power upon individuals). The legal power to take another person’s life surely merits objective accountability, despite what our friends at the Fraternal Order might tell us. Cops are people – just as fragile and flawed as the rest of us.

When we are critical of cops, then, we’re not attempting to shit-talk your cousin, friend, sister or parent who’s worked on the force for years and represents its best characteristics. We’re criticizing a system that reflexively defends itself from any and all complaint with platitudes intended to shut down debate — such as “not all cops are bad.”

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These are not your parents’ cops

As numerous commentators have already noted, American police have undergone a massive transformation in recent decades. Militarized police departments are on the rise, with no sign of this trend slowing any time soon. It started with the war on drugs in the ’80s, followed by the now-famous “1033 Program,” a federal program that allows the military to sell discount weapons, supplies and munitions to local police departments, capped off finally by a massive infusion of new resources following the Sept. 11 attacks. (And while the 1033 program has earned the bulk of the attention, it’s important to note that it’s “only” provided local cops with $4.3 billion in new supplies, a number dwarfed by the $34 billion the Department of Homeland Security has provided since 9/11.)

There are plenty of great explainers that you can read about how all of this came to be; the Intercept’s Glenn Greenwald recently provided a useful summary, as did Amanda Taub for Vox. But even if these accounts do nothing to change your perception of the police today, one must ask: Where does it end? At what point do cops become so weaponized, so hostile to their citizenry and shielded from responsibility or blame that our suspicions of the institution gain merit? And crucially — who gets to decide?Nail on the head!!!!



When liberals are being critical of cops, the criticism is largely directed at the institution itself, with its habit of overreaching its authority and protecting its own from prosecution whenever possible. It’s an institution that generally bristles at the mere suggestion that oversight is needed (rather than, say, acknowledging oversight as a crucial element of any system that bequeaths exceptional power upon individuals). The legal power to take another person’s life surely merits objective accountability, despite what our friends at the Fraternal Order might tell us. Cops are people – just as fragile and flawed as the rest of us.

When we are critical of cops, then, we’re not attempting to shit-talk your cousin, friend, sister or parent who’s worked on the force for years and represents its best characteristics. We’re criticizing a system that reflexively defends itself from any and all complaint with platitudes intended to shut down debate — such as “not all cops are bad.”

Once again right on target!

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It's so easy for us to sit back and spout out our opinions on how a particular incident, like Ferguson, was handled when we have days and hours to do so. The real fact is that unless you were there, knew exactly what was transpiring through the officers mind during the overall incident and have personally spent a significant amount of time as a police officer in todays crazy world, I ask this question; who are we to prejudge the actions taken by this officer until after ALL THE FACTS OF THE CASE are released and thoroughly investigated. Also, even after ALL the details are released and a decision is made one way or the other, how many of us may have taken the same course of action as this officer did, if in your mind as well as his, you truly felt that your life was on the line and you had only moments to make a decision, not the days, weeks and hours that so many people have used to sadly take sides in this case.

I was a law enforcement officer for well over 20 years on a large urbanized police force and NEVER fired my weapon in the line of duty. However, I did have to draw my service weapon often due to the number of violent natured calls I responded to and on exactly three occassions, which stay with most cops forever, I found myself a fraction of a second away from pulling the trigger on my weapon. As I stated, I never did, but that was because these three incidents that had reason for me to fear for my life, de-escalated themselves at the same fraction of a second. Now every time I hear the uproar and media scrutiny over a incident like Ferguson, I think back and wonder if this would have happened to me if I had made the SPLIT SECOND decision to fire my weapon in any of those three instances. All I know for absolute sure right now, is that I'm so very glad to be done with that Thankless profession.

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Sorry former officer Page but I'm Taig Irish not a heartless bigoted Proddy such as yourself.

I can say when I retire in less then nine months that I did not turn the profession of law enforcement into nothing more then a paid band of mindless vigilantes.
You would have fit in just fine with the 1 Para that pulled the trigger in Bogside Sunday evening.

Must go now have much more actual facts to place here to inform people.

I'm counting the days when I can get my six figure DROP check and languish in relaxation knowing I was what a law enforcement officer was really supposed to be.

You on the other hand will be making the rounds at the tinfoil hat wearers meetings spouting your hate and anger that you generated over the years.

With any luck you will fall into rank of the other "I got no respect as a cop" group. With in seven years you will either have a stroke, heart attack, drink yourself to death our swallow your old off duty gun.

If you have any care left for the public you treated like crap, you would spare them and me any more of your hate filled anger and immediately apply the latter of the four above mentioned.

Have a real great day disgraced Officer Krupke (ret.)

Hey Deputy Paddy-Taig, we're waiting on those facts...
Or can we read them in your dissertation @ FSU? When (if) you graduate, will you be teaching white-guilt?
As you once so eloquently stated, "Th-th-th-th-th-th-that's all folks!"