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01-24-2013, 02:38 AM
So the Capt. Told the supervisors that morale is bad and he is disappointed at them for this, especially since we have gotten so much over the last few years. Well if your confused on why morale is so bad maybe I can help. Morale is bad because of the lack of Leadership, Support, Direction, Knowledge, Energy, and Desire of most members of our command staff. Not all mind you, but most look like they would rather take a spear in the eye then to show up to work. Maybe we should look inward to see how we are lacking and make the changes to lead this department in the right direction. Let's take pride in where we work and continue to grow and prepare this agency for future endeavors.

01-24-2013, 01:09 PM
Moral

1. Reckless discipline

2. Reckless drafts

3. No agency direction

4. No Leadership

5. No brotherhood

Here is a starting point. The first 4 can be fixed by command. The last one will be fixed by all if the conditions get better.

01-24-2013, 05:30 PM
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How our morale needs to be.

01-24-2013, 05:33 PM
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01-24-2013, 05:35 PM
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01-24-2013, 05:37 PM
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01-25-2013, 11:38 PM
Moral

1. Reckless discipline

2. Reckless drafts

3. No agency direction

4. No Leadership

5. No brotherhood

Here is a starting point. The first 4 can be fixed by command. The last one will be fixed by all if the conditions get better.

I would say the first 3 can be fixed. The last two can not.

#4- Anyone that has studied Leadership/Management 101, or has taken advanced classes in supervision and dealing with people, know the #1 reason employees experience job dissatisfaction on the job, is because of poor first line supervisor and their failure to create a positive work environment that encourages their employees to be the best they can be and causes the employee to look forward to coming into work for the next shift. This is opposed to the supervisor that fosters a poor work environment that employees do not look forward to coming in to work for the day. A lot of employees here want out, because of the persons in first line supervision now, that they see will be promoted to the next Lt. spot, after some of the current Lt.'s retire.

#5- Brotherhood on the job is directly affected by #4. There will always be good and bad points of the career. A good first line supervisor will foster a good morale among their employees and encourage them, as oppossed to being a big arsehole that they do not enjoy working for. This is one of the major reasons this agency is lacking brotherhood.

01-26-2013, 12:53 AM
Well said, but its the people above making the poor decisions on who has been promoted lately. Can't you see who people are bidding for? It no longer matters days or nights its who you really dont want to work for. Who nobody wants to work for.

01-26-2013, 02:08 PM
The first line supervisors are fine. I hate the reckless drafts.

01-26-2013, 02:11 PM
Out of 26 officers, 20 stand around watching the grass grow, the paint dry, etc. etc.

01-27-2013, 06:21 PM
The first line supervisors are fine. I hate the reckless drafts.

Yes our Supervisors. If you can survive the ones with various personalities/disorders or have one of the few that actually know how to be a supervisor and not a scared company man or a promotion seeking drama queen, consider yourself lucky.

01-28-2013, 12:24 AM
#5- is a major issue here. From experience, I can tell you that there is no "brotherhood/sisterhood" here. Everyone is out for themselves at this agency, guarantee you. If you have ever worked at another agency, it won't take you long to see that. A lot of officers and supervisors here that never worked at a bigger agency and have never been socialized as police officers from the beginning of their careers and are ready to screw the co-worker over to get ahead.

01-28-2013, 02:17 PM
#5- is a major issue here. From experience, I can tell you that there is no "brotherhood/sisterhood" here. Everyone is out for themselves at this agency, guarantee you. If you have ever worked at another agency, it won't take you long to see that. A lot of officers and supervisors here that never worked at a bigger agency and have never been socialized as police officers from the beginning of their careers and are ready to screw the co-worker over to get ahead.
Just who is screwing who? If you ask me, its the officers who "work" here who only do the minimum to get by, while a very few of us do all the work. Riding around looking at coeds or parking in the back of a lot for an hour playing on your laptop might be what you consider "work" but I assure you it isnt. Pitch in and maybe the morale around here will improve. Remember "busy hands are happy hands."

01-29-2013, 08:34 PM
Really can not blame him. I mean it is hard to be the
Leader when you have only supervised records ladies and 1 med center office, and have zero police experience. Gotta love those prepared speeches and then try to walk out without taking questions. Those supervisors knew if they said anything they would have gotten yelled at and put on his crap list. Why is morale low?????? Here is a mirror.

01-30-2013, 03:46 PM
My morale is just fine. Get paid pretty well for what we do.

01-31-2013, 01:43 AM
I've watched these traffic hounds come and go over the years, many of them.., they never last. Most of the hotshots are young and want to be the cop they imagined they would be if they had been hired by TPD, HCSO, or the FHP. Most of the officers that stay on here, enjoy their role of being a campus cop and what the job entails and like it. The ones that like it stay, the ones that don't eventually leave and move on, especially after they realize they are spending almost everyday off in court and on top of that get drafted to work on their off time. It's a revolving cycle that will never end.

02-01-2013, 04:59 PM
I don't think that is true about the traffic hounds. I think the group that we have now will be around for a while. They are a good couple of officers. When it hits the fan, those are the guys I want at my back. They have put hands on the most people, dealt with more guns and drugs (and I don't mean the typical half gram of cannabis) than most of us ever will, and have been face to face with the stuff that goes on around the bubble on a daily basis.

Their traffic will slow down and they will level out just like every other "new" guy, but the experience that they are gaining will not diminish and will prove invaluable to our agency.

02-01-2013, 07:51 PM
I've watched these traffic hounds come and go over the years, many of them.., they never last. Most of the hotshots are young and want to be the cop they imagined they would be if they had been hired by TPD, HCSO, or the FHP. Most of the officers that stay on here, enjoy their role of being a campus cop and what the job entails and like it. The ones that like it stay, the ones that don't eventually leave and move on, especially after they realize they are spending almost everyday off in court and on top of that get drafted to work on their off time. It's a revolving cycle that will never end.
Please tell us what the difference is between a "campus cop" and a "cop." Which one is real?

02-02-2013, 07:35 PM
Almost every morale problem comes down to the fact that people are sexist and afraid of a woman with power. If you werent, you wouldnt be whining about promotions and transfers. You wouldnt spend your time flabbing at the mouth about women who make decisions or crying about emails. Scared little boys...

02-03-2013, 10:25 AM
Wow what a great Traffic Enforcement holiday party we had this year.

:cop:

02-03-2013, 10:44 AM
What was wrong with it?

02-03-2013, 11:40 AM
I think the awards party was fine. Chief set a precedent, you work hard, he will reward you for it. Most agencies do this. Hopefully it motivates people to perform. Be happy for everyone who received an award and move on.

02-04-2013, 12:34 AM
I think the awards party was fine. Chief set a precedent, you work hard, he will reward you for it. Most agencies do this. Hopefully it motivates people to perform. Be happy for everyone who received an award and move on.


It's the same thing every year. It's all about traffic, always has, always will be. Instead of handing out those nomination sheets just send out the traffic stats.

02-04-2013, 03:27 AM
So what accomplishments do you propose are award worthy? Watching the grass grow, paint peel, and parking lot lines fade don't count for anything. Oh, and by the way, the nomination forms were used to choose the recipients. The majority of people voted for the two who got the cars from what I understand. So instead of complaining about traffic, which by the way had no bearing on the three awards on the nomination form, why don't you go out and do something award worthy this year?

Job well done to the award recipients. Those cars and awards were well deserved and nothing short of earned.

02-04-2013, 10:47 PM
Almost every morale problem comes down to the fact that people are sexist and afraid of a woman with power. If you werent, you wouldnt be whining about promotions and transfers. You wouldnt spend your time flabbing at the mouth about women who make decisions or crying about emails. Scared little boys...

Almost every morale problem? That is a very false statement. As long as I have worked here, there have always been women supervisors in charge and they have done a good job and are respected. Some of the best supervisors I have seen have been female. It's not about the women in charge, it's more about the "power" as you stated. Any supervisor that try's to wield the "power" you mentioned, male or female, will never have true respect from any employee I can guarentee you, and there are a few here, male and female. The "power" and being an arsehole, is probably more of the morale problem than being a male or female in a supervisor position.

02-04-2013, 11:58 PM
So what accomplishments do you propose are award worthy? Watching the grass grow, paint peel, and parking lot lines fade don't count for anything. Oh, and by the way, the nomination forms were used to choose the recipients. The majority of people voted for the two who got the cars from what I understand. So instead of complaining about traffic, which by the way had no bearing on the three awards on the nomination form, why don't you go out and do something award worthy this year?

Job well done to the award recipients. Those cars and awards were well deserved and nothing short of earned.

I agree, great job to both of those two and their awards for their traffic arrest and other arrest. They deserve the prise they got. So, how about the rest of the empolyees that make up the majority of the Dept. on patrol...are we pieces of crap compared to their activity?

Someone needs to take real command of this Dept. The boysout leader here looking for the awards he can accumulate instead of running a real Police Dept. really needs to be looked at. This Dept. is in need of major leadership overhall in many ways.

A new shotgun bought for every person in patrol...really?...That is a huge waste of money. A 10hr range day coming up, and most of it based on shotgun practice? Probably more practice than the basic academy practices...? What a waste of time and money. This is another way this Dept. waste money and time on BS.

You should, go to the range and qualify with the shotgun (which is an antiquated weapon, and has never been used or needed in the last 20yrs) and the agency issued sidearm, and you should get back to work. At USF,..... let's figure out how to spend 12hrs at the gun range and practice shotguns....,some BS stuff that the latest guy has went to school and learned. This place is need of real leadership and progression.

02-05-2013, 12:50 AM
It's all about the DT training here and what useless class class the instructor attended can teach...I am still waiting for another useless ASP class. How many times has any officer in their career, ever used an ASP baton?

02-05-2013, 12:55 AM
So what accomplishments do you propose are award worthy? Watching the grass grow, paint peel, and parking lot lines fade don't count for anything. Oh, and by the way, the nomination forms were used to choose the recipients. The majority of people voted for the two who got the cars from what I understand. So instead of complaining about traffic, which by the way had no bearing on the three awards on the nomination form, why don't you go out and do something award worthy this year?

Job well done to the award recipients. Those cars and awards were well deserved and nothing short of earned.

I agree, great job to both of those two and their awards for their traffic arrest and other arrest. They deserve the prise they got. So, how about the rest of the empolyees that make up the majority of the Dept. on patrol...are we pieces of crap compared to their activity?

Someone needs to take real command of this Dept. The boysout leader here looking for the awards he can accumulate instead of running a real Police Dept. really needs to be looked at. This Dept. is in need of major leadership overhall in many ways.

A new shotgun bought for every person in patrol...really?...That is a huge waste of money. A 10hr range day coming up, and most of it based on shotgun practice? Probably more practice than the basic academy practices...? What a waste of time and money. Rifle training needs to be done, and some rifles avaialable besides to the TRT...this is common sence. .his is another way this Dept. waste money and time on BS.

You should, go to the range and qualify with the shotgun (which is an antiquated weapon, and has never been used or needed in the last 20yrs) and the agency issued sidearm, and you should get back to work. At USF,..... let's figure out how to spend 12hrs at the gun range and practice shotguns....,some BS stuff that the latest guy has went to school and learned. This place is need of real leadership and progression.

02-05-2013, 01:37 PM
I think the residents of Temple Terrace, Tampa and Hillsborough County should be happy that the USF Police are providing them additional police resources for free.

02-05-2013, 11:00 PM
I think the residents of Temple Terrace, Tampa and Hillsborough County should be happy that the USF Police are providing them additional police resources for free.

Its our community too. Antiquated argument. It's not changing anytime soon. Get used to it or get out. Times have changed, for the better.

02-06-2013, 01:30 AM
Well stated. ?

02-06-2013, 03:27 AM
I think the residents of Temple Terrace, Tampa and Hillsborough County should be happy that the USF Police are providing them additional police resources for free.

Aren't we all on the same team. It's a shared jurisdiction. What's the problem with taking criminals, drunks, dangerous people, drugs etc. off the streets?? I think that's always a good thing no matter where it's done.plus, like it or not, it has reduced crime on campus. Speaking honestly, things are not like they were just a few years ago. We will obviously never eliminate crime, but we have reduced it. Lets keep it up.

02-06-2013, 11:25 PM
I agree 100%. But the other agencies have complained that we poach traffic on their jurisdiction, and on top of that call in bs S4's without handling the them. A TPD Sgt. complained that we called in a S4, and when he showed up the USF PD car, just drove off. He said it was a marked USF PD car with no light bar on top..., that is a supervisors car. You can't have your cake and eat it too. We just do not have the man power to work the S4's or the other stuff in the area that they expect us to do.

02-07-2013, 12:14 AM
We do have the manpower, but some of our supervisors won't let us. I'd be more than happy to.

02-07-2013, 12:47 AM
I agree 100%. But the other agencies have complained that we poach traffic on their jurisdiction, and on top of that call in bs S4's without handling the them. A TPD Sgt. complained that we called in a S4, and when he showed up the USF PD car, just drove off. He said it was a marked USF PD car with no light bar on top..., that is a supervisors car. You can't have your cake and eat it too. We just do not have the man power to work the S4's or the other stuff in the area that they expect us to do.

That's right, we will keep doing traffic stops & they will keep writing crash reports! If the TPD SGT doesn't like it he can wash and wax my mountain bike HE trained me on! :shock:

02-07-2013, 01:02 AM
We do have the manpower, but some of our supervisors won't let us. I'd be more than happy to.

That is not true, and that is why you are not a supervisor. We don't have the man power to work all the S4's and S3's, that happen on the borderlines of our jurisdiction. If we worked half of them, we would not be able to focus on our DUI work. We will keep things as they are and work the DUI's and call in the S4's and S3's to TPD and HCSO, that is unless they are DUI, then we will handle it.

02-07-2013, 01:31 AM
I just hate it when my concentrated efforts on off campus traffic enforcement is interrupted by these pain in the azz calls on campus.

I want to see how you could keep up the Stat record I have. Everyone here should thank me for making you all look good.

The surround agencies breath a sigh of relief knowing I'm out there.

02-07-2013, 01:43 AM
Almost every morale problem comes down to the fact that people are sexist and afraid of a woman with power. If you werent, you wouldnt be whining about promotions and transfers. You wouldnt spend your time flabbing at the mouth about women who make decisions or crying about emails. Scared little boys...

My dog is my other half ..wonder why that is?

02-07-2013, 01:56 AM
Out of 26 officers, 20 stand around watching the grass grow, the paint dry, etc. etc.

More like 2 rookie cops competing against each other for stats. According to them, the ones that signed on to be a campus cop and carry a big set of keys on the job, watch the grass grow....aren't worth a shitz. That is sad.

02-07-2013, 11:57 AM
Out of 26 officers, 20 stand around watching the grass grow, the paint dry, etc. etc.

More like 2 rookie cops competing against each other for stats. According to them, the ones that signed on to be a campus cop and carry a big set of keys on the job, watch the grass grow....aren't worth a shitz. That is sad.

Yea, real sad. They work hard, get rewarded and you sit behind a computer and anonymously bash them. Both are great officers, two of the best we have here. And as far as I know, one is not a "rookie". You are the reason there is a lack of trust among officers here....nice work. Don't trash someone for working hard, you proved their point that you aren't worth a shitz by doing that.

02-07-2013, 12:04 PM
I just hate it when my concentrated efforts on off campus traffic enforcement is interrupted by these pain in the azz calls on campus.

I want to see how you could keep up the Stat record I have. Everyone here should thank me for making you all look good.

The surround agencies breath a sigh of relief knowing I'm out there.

Off campus traffic enforcement is a reality in our job now. It's not going to stop anytime soon. Deal with it. Stop crying about it and accept the fact that we do that. If you don't like it, no one will be sad to see you leave.

02-07-2013, 08:38 PM
We do have the manpower, but some of our supervisors won't let us. I'd be more than happy to.

That is not true, and that is why you are not a supervisor. We don't have the man power to work all the S4's and S3's, that happen on the borderlines of our jurisdiction. If we worked half of them, we would not be able to focus on our DUI work. We will keep things as they are and work the DUI's and call in the S4's and S3's to TPD and HCSO, that is unless they are DUI, then we will handle it.

You're delusional if you think we can't handle a couple extra crashes everyday. I didn't say all of them, just the few that we find or are first on scene to. I know it might interrupt your 2 hour meal break or your 4 hours of doing nothing, but it would be okay.

02-09-2013, 12:53 AM
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It's a shared jurisdiction. [/quote]


Really???? Thats pretty funny !!!

02-09-2013, 01:04 AM
It's a shared jurisdiction. [/quote]


Really???? Thats pretty funny !!![/quote]

Why is that funny? Lots of agencies overlap in their jurisdictions. FHP, county and tpd alldo traffic on 275 and i4. Happens all the time. Just saying.

02-09-2013, 01:48 AM
We do have the manpower, but some of our supervisors won't let us. I'd be more than happy to.

That is not true, and that is why you are not a supervisor. We don't have the man power to work all the S4's and S3's, that happen on the borderlines of our jurisdiction. If we worked half of them, we would not be able to focus on our DUI work. We will keep things as they are and work the DUI's and call in the S4's and S3's to TPD and HCSO, that is unless they are DUI, then we will handle it.

You're delusional if you think we can't handle a couple extra crashes everyday. I didn't say all of them, just the few that we find or are first on scene to. I know it might interrupt your 2 hour meal break or your 4 hours of doing nothing, but it would be okay.

Thats OK with me, you will be the one calling that stuff in and working those things you come across off campus. It will cut into the time you have to make the traffic arrest off campus too and your stats.

02-09-2013, 03:41 AM
We do have the manpower, but some of our supervisors won't let us. I'd be more than happy to.

That is not true, and that is why you are not a supervisor. We don't have the man power to work all the S4's and S3's, that happen on the borderlines of our jurisdiction. If we worked half of them, we would not be able to focus on our DUI work. We will keep things as they are and work the DUI's and call in the S4's and S3's to TPD and HCSO, that is unless they are DUI, then we will handle it.

You're delusional if you think we can't handle a couple extra crashes everyday. I didn't say all of them, just the few that we find or are first on scene to. I know it might interrupt your 2 hour meal break or your 4 hours of doing nothing, but it would be okay.

And then you woke up and changed the sheets, and realized a lot of times we only have three officers working on a shift.

02-09-2013, 12:26 PM
We do have the manpower, but some of our supervisors won't let us. I'd be more than happy to.

That is not true, and that is why you are not a supervisor. We don't have the man power to work all the S4's and S3's, that happen on the borderlines of our jurisdiction. If we worked half of them, we would not be able to focus on our DUI work. We will keep things as they are and work the DUI's and call in the S4's and S3's to TPD and HCSO, that is unless they are DUI, then we will handle it.

You're delusional if you think we can't handle a couple extra crashes everyday. I didn't say all of them, just the few that we find or are first on scene to. I know it might interrupt your 2 hour meal break or your 4 hours of doing nothing, but it would be okay.

Thats OK with me, you will be the one calling that stuff in and working those things you come across off campus. It will cut into the time you have to make the traffic arrest off campus too and your stats.

Oh yes, bc a S4 takes oh so long to work. But really, why are we arguing about this. It's a non-issue. For now, whether we like it or not, we don't work them, and we can do all the traffic we want out there. So how bout we stop bickering like children and just do our jobs. Whatever that may be.

02-10-2013, 01:44 AM
*bump

02-10-2013, 10:23 PM
It's a shared jurisdiction.


Really???? Thats pretty funny !!![/quote]

Why is that funny? Lots of agencies overlap in their jurisdictions. FHP, county and tpd alldo traffic on 275 and i4. Happens all the time. Just saying.[/quote]


Thanks for letting us know about this, I'll keep this in mind when you call in a off campus request. May be a long ride home for some of you now, welcome to our world.

We have lots to share brother, I'll be sure to keep you guys in mind when we get busy.

02-10-2013, 10:30 PM
Crybabies, all of ya :roll:

02-11-2013, 02:41 AM
It's a shared jurisdiction.


Really???? Thats pretty funny !!!

Why is that funny? Lots of agencies overlap in their jurisdictions. FHP, county and tpd alldo traffic on 275 and i4. Happens all the time. Just saying.[/quote]


Thanks for letting us know about this, I'll keep this in mind when you call in a off campus request. May be a long ride home for some of you now, welcome to our world.

We have lots to share brother, I'll be sure to keep you guys in mind when we get busy.[/quote]

Lol. Acting like you have authority to do anything. We can always be requested to assist another agency. That's nothing new but nice trying puff your chest lke that. And we stop at stuff all the time on our drives home. Nothing new there either. But hopefully you feel better about yourself with your anonymous tough guy post. You go.

02-25-2013, 09:36 PM
I noticed we have been taking some crashes for the City and the County lately. :devil:

03-03-2013, 07:12 PM
Look at me and my monthly I think I'm important statistical email. That's one hell of a walking morale problem.

03-04-2013, 12:43 AM
Look at me and my monthly I think I'm important statistical email. That's one hell of a walking morale problem.

Haha. Gotta try to stay relevant somehow. I mean when you don't do a damn thing anymore except stir up sh*t and walk around like a big shot when you are clearly not what else is there to do. Look at me I'm important, I swear, I'm so important.

03-04-2013, 11:20 PM
I've been here long enough to realize this place is full of backstabber co workers that are out against each other and supervision that does the same thing and fosters the terrible work environment that is at this job. It's really bad and unbelievable, I am very disapointed.

03-05-2013, 01:28 AM
Perkins……..

03-05-2013, 01:56 AM
He's no different then most he worked "hard" for a bit and now tries to skate by and live off his reputation. Only problem is his reputation is crap these days from the streets straight up the ranks. And he went to a training class and expects everything to be handed to him, but he is no Sgt. Bobrowski. Not even close. But what can we do.

03-05-2013, 02:41 AM
Let me add to the morale killer about working here..., you can put 5 or 6 yrs on, and by senority be able to pick any shift you want, but you will still get stuck with the shitiest supervisor they have..that should have never been promoted... Then they will hire someone new person in, usually a retired person...they will work a rotation through FTO and then they will be promoted above you or put in a permanent day shift office job that you may lke to have it was offered. Don't apply! And don't sign the contract! You will be wasting time on your career.

03-05-2013, 03:05 AM
Yes they will hire new people in here on the job after you have been on the job for 6yrs or so, that they like more than you and put them over you with no time on the job. My advice to you is don't sign that contract unless you are ready to be FHP for what you thought you would do for your police career. Your job performace will be mainly baced on all the traffic stops you do. Don't think you are signing up to be a university police officer and interacting with the students and university employees on a police basis, your entire job will be judged upon the traffic stops you do and how you compare to the newest rookie they hire that does the most traffic stops, bs misd. arrests he can find and DUI's...., don't kid yourself and apply here. Awards are given out monthly for the most traffic stops and DUI's. It's an unethical place to work, it's all about stats. That in and of itself, causes most of the bad back stabbing that goes on here that shouldn't. Any decent organization manager/s should fix the problem, but doesnt.

03-05-2013, 01:06 PM
If you are not doing traffic then what are you doing? Those same traffic people are also making the arrests and catching the people committing crimes on campus while your sitting in dispatch or on your permanent x40. Stop being lazy!

03-05-2013, 02:15 PM
What is a "DRE" on dayshift with no experience worth? I rookie with a year on has more Drug and Alcohol experience. :cop:

03-05-2013, 09:34 PM
If you are not doing traffic then what are you doing? Those same traffic people are also making the arrests and catching the people committing crimes on campus while your sitting in dispatch or on your permanent x40. Stop being lazy!


Oh stop being a damn drama queen. Our highway patrol wanna he's get pizzed when they have to lower themselfes to take a campus call. Waiting for some driver to make a turn out of Coppertops (in Temple Terrace) and following them west until a wheel touches a line is really not great police work.

03-05-2013, 10:56 PM
If you are not doing traffic then what are you doing? Those same traffic people are also making the arrests and catching the people committing crimes on campus while your sitting in dispatch or on your permanent x40. Stop being lazy!


Oh stop being a damn drama queen. Our highway patrol wanna he's get pizzed when they have to lower themselfes to take a campus call. Waiting for some driver to make a turn out of Coppertops (in Temple Terrace) and following them west until a wheel touches a line is really not great police work.


Yeah, all those calls that come in.

03-06-2013, 01:53 AM
If you are not doing traffic then what are you doing? Those same traffic people are also making the arrests and catching the people committing crimes on campus while your sitting in dispatch or on your permanent x40. Stop being lazy!


Oh stop being a damn drama queen. Our highway patrol wanna he's get pizzed when they have to lower themselfes to take a campus call. Waiting for some driver to make a turn out of Coppertops (in Temple Terrace) and following them west until a wheel touches a line is really not great police work.

You are a sad, sad individual. I'm sorry you are so offended by how other officers work. Is it jealousy? Is it anger at yourself and your lack of drive and/or ability? These officers NEVER complain about taking their calls or reports. They do their calls, do good solid police work ON campus and solid enforcement off campus as well. That's called doing it all, something I know you don't know a lot about. It says a lot about your character and self worth that you would come here and Bash officers in your department for no reason, outside of jealousy or anger at their reward or praise. They do great police work that is encouraged by the admin. And you just can't be supportive. Why? Take a look in the mirror and ask yourself why you are so jealous. Last I checked, these officers you are anonymously bashing never once talked bad about anyone and did not ask for any of the awards or honors they received. They are great officers and can back me up anytime.

03-06-2013, 01:57 AM
If you are not doing traffic then what are you doing? Those same traffic people are also making the arrests and catching the people committing crimes on campus while your sitting in dispatch or on your permanent x40. Stop being lazy!


Oh stop being a damn drama queen. Our highway patrol wanna he's get pizzed when they have to lower themselfes to take a campus call. Waiting for some driver to make a turn out of Coppertops (in Temple Terrace) and following them west until a wheel touches a line is really not great police work.

That's actually solid police work. That's what X-ray units and proactive night shift officers do all over the country. It's called being proactive. Sharking the bars is a common practice by almost all agencies. As long as they handle their calls, which I believe they do and without complaining I might add, it's solid work. Let them do it, takes the heat off me!

03-06-2013, 02:08 PM
If you are not doing traffic then what are you doing? Those same traffic people are also making the arrests and catching the people committing crimes on campus while your sitting in dispatch or on your permanent x40. Stop being lazy!


Oh stop being a damn drama queen. Our highway patrol wanna he's get pizzed when they have to lower themselfes to take a campus call. Waiting for some driver to make a turn out of Coppertops (in Temple Terrace) and following them west until a wheel touches a line is really not great police work.

That's actually solid police work. That's what X-ray units and proactive night shift officers do all over the country. It's called being proactive. Sharking the bars is a common practice by almost all agencies. As long as they handle their calls, which I believe they do and without complaining I might add, it's solid work. Let them do it, takes the heat off me!

Your preaching to the choir, there are some extremely lazy cops here that want to get paid to do nothing. Now that people are working hard the spotlight is on them to step it up. In this economy you don't just sit on your a$$ and get paid anymore, there are 50 people applying to take your job. Be a productive worker, holding down parking lots, dispatch and the surrounding restaurants isn't what we get paid to do. It isn't that hard to stop a few cars in a 12 hour shift, you can still eat all your precious meals and watch your favorite movies or "flirt" with your favorite waitress.

Step it up and quit complaining about others working hard. You sound dumb! Its because of the hard working cops that we have the nice things we do. Remember, we are watching you in more ways than you know!

03-06-2013, 04:51 PM
Call me crazy but it seems the morale problems are caused by the people who would rather say "I'm a campus cop and traffic is not what I signed up to do". Last time I checked, we work in a department, a paramilitary agency, where we should be following the direction set forth by our commander. Whether you signed up for it or not, our chief has made it very clear that he expects our officers to be proactive, productive, and wants his traffic. Now whether you agree with that or not, it's not yor choice. You signed on to join a department, not be a rogue officer who does whatever they choose. You are part of an agency where our director has determined the course he wants our department to follow. You may disagree, but you should still follow his command. As stated, it's not hard to do three or four stops in12 hours. And I can guarantee that if the chief changes his mission and says to stop traffic and only do S15s and S17s, the same officers who do all the traffic will lead the agency in those categories. It's just their nature. I believe the morale of this department would be much better if people just accepted their role as a subordinate officer, listened to their command staff and chief, and did the job that is expected of you. There would be no issues if everyone got on board and said, this is our department, this is direction we are going, jump on board or put in your two weeks.

03-06-2013, 05:50 PM
Call me crazy but it seems the morale problems are caused by the people who would rather say "I'm a campus cop and traffic is not what I signed up to do". Last time I checked, we work in a department, a paramilitary agency, where we should be following the direction set forth by our commander. Whether you signed up for it or not, our chief has made it very clear that he expects our officers to be proactive, productive, and wants his traffic. Now whether you agree with that or not, it's not yor choice. You signed on to join a department, not be a rogue officer who does whatever they choose. You are part of an agency where our director has determined the course he wants our department to follow. You may disagree, but you should still follow his command. As stated, it's not hard to do three or four stops in12 hours. And I can guarantee that if the chief changes his mission and says to stop traffic and only do S15s and S17s, the same officers who do all the traffic will lead the agency in those categories. It's just their nature. I believe the morale of this department would be much better if people just accepted their role as a subordinate officer, listened to their command staff and chief, and did the job that is expected of you. There would be no issues if everyone got on board and said, this is our department, this is direction we are going, jump on board or put in your two weeks.


Well said. Stop bashing each other and work as a team, everyone would be happier. Remember that it isn't the responsibility of command to make morale better, they have the job of making sure that the Chief gets the results he is looking for. Morale is your own responsibility, how you respond to circumstances dictates your morale. Sorry to bust your bubble out there, but you don't work for yourself and no matter where you go you are going to have to follow someone elses direction. If you have difficulty following direction you will always have morale problems.

03-06-2013, 08:59 PM
Call me crazy but it seems the morale problems are caused by the people who would rather say "I'm a campus cop and traffic is not what I signed up to do". Last time I checked, we work in a department, a paramilitary agency, where we should be following the direction set forth by our commander. Whether you signed up for it or not, our chief has made it very clear that he expects our officers to be proactive, productive, and wants his traffic. Now whether you agree with that or not, it's not yor choice. You signed on to join a department, not be a rogue officer who does whatever they choose. You are part of an agency where our director has determined the course he wants our department to follow. You may disagree, but you should still follow his command. As stated, it's not hard to do three or four stops in12 hours. And I can guarantee that if the chief changes his mission and says to stop traffic and only do S15s and S17s, the same officers who do all the traffic will lead the agency in those categories. It's just their nature. I believe the morale of this department would be much better if people just accepted their role as a subordinate officer, listened to their command staff and chief, and did the job that is expected of you. There would be no issues if everyone got on board and said, this is our department, this is direction we are going, jump on board or put in your two weeks.
THANK YOU! So well said! To those few malcontent "campus cops" who whine about their work, I say go someplace else. St. Leo might need a night security guard. St. Pete campus might need an LEO if you just have to have that badge and gun (for what...I don't know since you dont want to DO police work). But since you dont have the courage to leave, then buck up and shut up. You are not hard to figure out, our sgts know who you are and you might need to be dealt with. I'm sick and tired of hearing this crap and hope they do "deal" with you.