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09-21-2012, 12:55 AM
Wow, just when I thought I had seen and heard it all for officers being fired from this place today is the icing on the cake. An officer was fired because she married a fellow officer and allegedly didn't tell the tribe. ARE YOU KIDDING ME! :lol: The tribe has finally sunk to an all new low. To the handful of officers left out there, leave now it's only a matter of time and they'll have your number. You all need to get together go one by one into the chairmans office and quit! Then and only then will they be forced to contact the BIA to step in and handle the law enforcement for the tribe. To the tribal members wake up you are slowly eliminating the entire police force and you will have no one to protect you! To the Chairman and Law Maker you two need to grow a pair T.W. is a nobody if you honestly believe she could have your jobs that easily then you both should resign now. If I remember correctly the general counsel needs to vote as a majority for that to happen and sorry can't see that happening. GOOD LUCK and GOD SPEED! :cop: :evil:

09-21-2012, 02:27 AM
There is no voting they just terminate us. It's out of control. The Ofc fired was and is a great Ofc. Even got Ofc of the month and year. These people don't care all that the ofcs give so much for these ******* crap eaters. There is not one single Ofc that gives a damn about these people. Look at what they did to a contractor they had remodel some rooms of the resort. They didn't pay him. Look up missocukee scam online.

09-21-2012, 07:05 AM
Wow, just when I thought I had seen and heard it all for officers being fired from this place today is the icing on the cake. An officer was fired because she married a fellow officer and allegedly didn't tell the tribe. ARE YOU KIDDING ME! :lol: The tribe has finally sunk to an all new low. To the handful of officers left out there, leave now it's only a matter of time and they'll have your number. You all need to get together go one by one into the chairmans office and quit! Then and only then will they be forced to contact the BIA to step in and handle the law enforcement for the tribe. To the tribal members wake up you are slowly eliminating the entire police force and you will have no one to protect you! To the Chairman and Law Maker you two need to grow a pair T.W. is a nobody if you honestly believe she could have your jobs that easily then you both should resign now. If I remember correctly the general counsel needs to vote as a majority for that to happen and sorry can't see that happening. GOOD LUCK and GOD SPEED! :cop: :evil:
You still work here! Y dnt u go to the tribe, u get us to do everything else. Man up show us how itz done rudazz!

09-23-2012, 03:20 AM
If you enjoy being a cop get out now before they screw you too. Look at any police application, they all ask if you have received any discipline or been terminated from a law enforcement agency. There are so many departemnts out there that won't give you the time of day if you answer yes. They don't care how rediculous the circumstances, most don't want to hear it or won't give you an opportunity to explain, they just send you a notice advising you are no longer in the process. There is such an abundance of applicants out there, they don't bother to take the time and look at what milk and cookies does to officers. The reality is it's easier for them to process candidates without baggage. I know most of you are thinking, "every department knows about miccosukee", they do, but it doesn't mean they will give you the time of day. Trust me, no matter how stupid the circumstances were, you will carry the baggage miccosukee gives to you. They have fired a lot of great cops over the years for nothing, how many are still out of law enforcement. It ought to tell you something. Get the hell out before these morons destroy your career and everything you have worked so hard to achieve.

09-29-2012, 06:53 AM
Even though I don't think she should have been fired but rather she should have been given a chance to resign. You fail to mention that she was an ofc. and he was a Sgt. on the the same shift and in the same department. Whether you realize it or not there are alot of rules against that in alot of agencies. Yes, people should and will get married but they should not be allowed to work with each other in small departments. So before you people start spouting fire maybe you should post the facts on both sides. Remember we are professionals and work with facts.

09-30-2012, 08:40 AM
There is no voting they just terminate us. It's out of control. The Ofc fired was and is a great Ofc. Even got Ofc of the month and year. These people don't care all that the ofcs give so much for these ******* crap eaters. There is not one single Ofc that gives a damn about these people. Look at what they did to a contractor they had remodel some rooms of the resort. They didn't pay him. Look up missocukee scam online.

Well maybe you ofc's need to comment on things you are aware of. Yes, you don't care about the tribe and we don't care about you. If that how you people want it.

It just troubles me that you want to spout off that we don't pay out bills. Maybe you should step back and see the truth. The truth is this person was over charging tribe. They were also giving shoddy workmanship to the tribe and trying to charge double and tripple. Maybe you guys have money to burn, but we don't. The bottom line is that Billy cypress was busy recieving kick backs from this company.

09-30-2012, 09:01 PM
Sonny Billie, Billy Cypress, and now this clown......Every one of them out for what is best for their Clan and the extended family. You demand loyalty and then defecate on the people that give it to you. It is not if I get fired from the Tribe, it is when. Of course the PD will always be the whipping boy for the tribe. I know having left and stopped and few, the best part of my week was when they asked if they were going to tribal court.

10-01-2012, 01:19 PM
Even though I don't think she should have been fired but rather she should have been given a chance to resign. You fail to mention that she was an ofc. and he was a Sgt. on the the same shift and in the same department. Whether you realize it or not there are alot of rules against that in alot of agencies. Yes, people should and will get married but they should not be allowed to work with each other in small departments. So before you people start spouting fire maybe you should post the facts on both sides. Remember we are professionals and work with facts.

I understand one being a SGT. however the other to my understanding was a DET. which means there are limited interactions, So come on the penalty doesn't fit the crime. I also understand that some small agencies frown upon this but i doubt seriously they would fire one or the other.

10-03-2012, 07:21 AM
No disrespect to anyone but you would be surprise how strict a lot of places are. Yes she was a detective but still under his command and on the same shift. Maybe you should leave south florida and see how other agencies work. Then you will understand how strict law enforcement is in there SOP's about marriage between supervisors an subordinates. No matter what you claim she is still a subordinate.

10-03-2012, 05:50 PM
Yes she was a Detective and he is a Sgt, but she was not on his shift. Nor was she under his supervision. She was a Detective assigned to the General Investigations Unit under the supervision of another "senior" Detective and the Chief of Police is the supervisor of that unit. Her husband is a Sgt on the road... Therefore he does not supervise her!
She was a great Officer on the road and a good Detective, she did more in the short time she was in that unit than anyone who has been or is in that unit now. She did a lot for the department and always helped anyone who asked for help. Unfortunate when you work in a department full of envious people and you do good, people want to knock you down. That's exactly what happened to her. People talked a lot of shit about her to some ignorant tira flechas and they got her out...
This Detective recieved Officer of the month awards serveral times as well as Officer of the year! You all can try to spread rumors as much as you like about her, but if you knew her you would know the rumors are not true and that she gave that department more than what they deserved.
Jenny, if you are reading this... Keep your head up and be strong! You will go to a great department that will recognize your worth and do AMAZING! It was a pleasure working with you.
For all of you that are still at Milk and Cookies, get out before these ignorant hating ****s get you too... I am!

10-03-2012, 10:08 PM
Justanofc, my brother you hit the nail right on the head, I am a former mic pd ofc and know both the Sgt and the Det both are great officers. Hey, Guest first off I know first hand how stuff works out there, and at no time has a road SGT been over a Det in GIU, so nice try also there is nothing in the SOP's that state such unless they have changed since I worked out there which I highly doubt. If I recall the SOP basically states that one cannot supervise the other directly, which a road SGT would not over see a Det in GIU. Several years back there was a similar situation and neither one got terminated. Also I work for a much larger agency today, and even our SOP's state that when it comes to nepotism one cannot supervise the other or can they work in the same shift in the same unit, and that is how most agencies are today. To the men and women still out there working, keep out of trouble and apply out to other agencies and leave, as you will never be able to retire form there.

10-06-2012, 10:18 AM
Well maybe she came to miccoscukee because she knew that she could not go to any other agency without being questioned. Sometimes people are hired and they have some things in there backgrounds. People even she had some things in her background that restricted her from going anywhere. Yes, to answer your question the tribe has rules against couples working together. Funny how there are experts out there now about the tribe. It really is funny when these people were looking for a way out and did not care.

10-06-2012, 10:20 AM
Maybe you people need to pick your battles and see where it take you.

10-06-2012, 10:25 AM
Yes she was a Detective and he is a Sgt, but she was not on his shift. Nor was she under his supervision. She was a Detective assigned to the General Investigations Unit under the supervision of another "senior" Detective and the Chief of Police is the supervisor of that unit. Her husband is a Sgt on the road... Therefore he does not supervise her!
She was a great Officer on the road and a good Detective, she did more in the short time she was in that unit than anyone who has been or is in that unit now. She did a lot for the department and always helped anyone who asked for help. Unfortunate when you work in a department full of envious people and you do good, people want to knock you down. That's exactly what happened to her. People talked a lot of shit about her to some ignorant tira flechas and they got her out...
This Detective recieved Officer of the month awards serveral times as well as Officer of the year! You all can try to spread rumors as much as you like about her, but if you knew her you would know the rumors are not true and that she gave that department more than what they deserved.
Jenny, if you are reading this... Keep your head up and be strong! You will go to a great department that will recognize your worth and do AMAZING! It was a pleasure working with you.
For all of you that are still at Milk and Cookies, get out before these ignorant hating ****s get you too... I am!

Funny how you people apply with us cuz you get desperate to be a cop. Once you are superstars you start bashing the dept. that took faith in you guys and offered you a job. You people are sad.

10-13-2012, 11:36 PM
Indians can, and will, terminate white people for ANYTHING THEY WANT. They are INDIANS

10-17-2012, 08:40 AM
[quote="Guest"]Indians can, and will, terminate white people for ANYTHING THEY WANT. They are INDIANS[/quote

Your point is You white people have done more damage to any native people in this country. So before you spout racism why don't you educate yourself about the former policys of your United States Government towards us. Yes, you and your ancestors have decimated native peoples numbering from a 100 million down to less than 1 million from the time you set foot on this land. So just maybe before you say its against indian and white why don't you remember your ancestors actions towards us. We didn't start the fight or invasion. It was you people. We just try to survive.

10-21-2012, 01:18 AM
I never did anything to the Indians (except work for them) The accusations that may or may not have happened before any of us were born dont matter anymore (we werent even alive, and they werent MY ascestors anyway!). Besides, the indians lost the war. The indians are very greedy and treat their white police officers like trash- that is unless you obey unlawful orders. Then they will throw you away later.

10-22-2012, 08:57 PM
That garbage about 'us' taking 'their' land is old and long worn out. No more excuses for lazy indians that tre :roll: at their white police officers like slaves.

10-23-2012, 12:48 AM
Wow, i love the same story line about how the land was taken and on and on. Last I checked that was over 100 years ago. I guess as a black male I should be entitled to my own land and my own rules and Casino Gaming along with my quarterly payout. After all my people were brought here and pressed into slavery. Your story is old and tired and you reap the benefits of the US Congress allowing Casino gaming. Imagine you actually having to show up and work, on time and be accountable for your actions as a Tribal Employee? Last I checked there was not a separate policy for members of the tribe and everyone else that works there. But, I know you are just trying to survive.

Having traveled on the Tribe dime and visited other Casinos and Reservations, they certainly do not act like entitled little kings and queens. Rules for all and equally applied.

Stop and think the department opened in 1976 and not one Officer or staff member has ever retired from there? Everyone that has ever worked there is screwed up and it must be them. Or maybe it is the work conditions, and the micro management of something you have no idea about? Like law and justice and doing the right thing because it is the right thing to do.

DUI in Tribal court? on a State Highway? You did not stop the Park Ranger from writing a ticket, you are fired? The list of wrong doings can go on and on. Still think you need that check point on the Loop Road for Terrorists? I believe that is what Billy said when he started that BS, almost a decade ago. Oops is he not the one that you and suing?

The place is never going to change and I am glad for the memories of the time there, but no fond memories of the treatment from the people that paid me.

Good Luck and God Bless the Officers that still work in the River of Grass.

10-23-2012, 10:11 PM
Indians can, and will, terminate white people for ANYTHING THEY WANT. They are INDIANS[/quote

Your point is You white people have done more damage to any native people in this country. So before you spout racism why don't you educate yourself about the former policys of your United States Government towards us. Yes, you and your ancestors have decimated native peoples numbering from a 100 million down to less than 1 million from the time you set foot on this land. So just maybe before you say its against indian and white why don't you remember your ancestors actions towards us. We didn't start the fight or invasion. It was you people. We just try to survive.

policies would be the appropriate word to use.
You imply you and your ancestors. You know me? or my ancestors. Lesson learned in history. Country gets conquered and the losers are assimilated our removed. Sad, but simple. Trying to survive on that $120,000 grand a year and the free house?

10-26-2012, 02:50 AM
Yep you guys are right it was your ancestors that taught us to play by your rules and when we do you people get. To answer your comment we never lost to your government. That why we have more rights than all the other tribes. We beat your military and gorvernment. An maybe you dummies need to go get educated.

Yes, I agree that you owe Afro- americans agreat sum of reperations for your ancestors predjudice ingorant way of thinking and enslaving them for so long.

Remember as long as we are around we will never let you people forget for your forefathers actions.

Besides you guys sound more like racist then we ever did.

10-26-2012, 11:28 PM
There is no voting they just terminate us. It's out of control. The Ofc fired was and is a great Ofc. Even got Ofc of the month and year. These people don't care all that the ofcs give so much for these ******* crap eaters. There is not one single Ofc that gives a damn about these people. Look at what they did to a contractor they had remodel some rooms of the resort. They didn't pay him. Look up missocukee scam online.
They are indians- they dont have to obey our laws

10-26-2012, 11:31 PM
Yep you guys are right it was your ancestors that taught us to play by your rules and when we do you people get. To answer your comment we never lost to your government. That why we have more rights than all the other tribes. We beat your military and gorvernment. An maybe you dummies need to go get educated.

Yes, I agree that you owe Afro- americans agreat sum of reperations for your ancestors predjudice ingorant way of thinking and enslaving them for so long.

Remember as long as we are around we will never let you people forget for your forefathers actions.

Besides you guys sound more like racist then we ever did.
Go have a few gallons of booze, beat your wife, run over some children, and when you wake up like you do every morning ,you will still be a lazy drunk racist indian

10-29-2012, 04:04 PM
I still remember the time I responded to a call of a 12 year old tribal member drinking. This one had a bottle of Alize and had drank half the bottle. I confronted him and the parents and guess what...........I was told to F..k off and I would lose my job if I arrested the child or the parents. Guess who showed up 5 minutes later? The Chairman at the time Billy Cypress and I was told that this was an internal matter that they would handle.

What did the kid do right in front of me? He drank almost the rest of the bottle and told me to f..k off. Now, if anyone has drank the ornage colored Alize drink you know thats some potent stuff. I can only drink a little bit of that an I'm gone.

It was at that time plus other incidents that made me realize that it was time to move on. In the agency that I work for, we have problems, but nothing like what you go through at Micco, and to top that off 5 years at the tribe equals to almost 2 months of real police expierence on another agency. You practically an FTO rookie cause you don't do or can't do crap. Ohh and those that say, well I have a degree and have taken numerous law enforcement exclusive training classes, still does not qualify for the real expierence.

10-30-2012, 07:50 PM
Yep you guys are right it was your ancestors that taught us to play by your rules and when we do you people get. To answer your comment we never lost to your government. That why we have more rights than all the other tribes. We beat your military and gorvernment. An maybe you dummies need to go get educated.

Yes, I agree that you owe Afro- americans agreat sum of reperations for your ancestors predjudice ingorant way of thinking and enslaving them for so long.

Remember as long as we are around we will never let you people forget for your forefathers actions.

Besides you guys sound more like racist then we ever did.

More rights then all other tribes? You are a little misguided maybe in your perception of Tribal Rights. Please tell me one benefit more or one more freedom that you enjoy then all the other tribes? If you can then I will admit that I am a stupid man.

Never lost to the U.S. Government? Lost what, you live on land dredged up of coral rock in the middle of a swamp. Please don't me about how you unconquered, wrong tribe. I am sure you have heard of the Seminole Tribe from Oklahoma. They are feeling pretty good about that relocation. History is history is just that. I cannot change it and you cannot fabricate it to move you up the food chain. Please tell me when the Miccosukee Tribe beat the US Government in any battle. Correct me if I am wrong on that note. If you need help please read up on the Seminole Tribal History. Either way I am sure that your ancestors have claim to history, you reap what ever benefit that they won. I don't think Tribal Gaming was one of the freedoms they fought for. Just Saying

As far a reparations for me as a black male, I think all those white soldiers that died for my freedom in that little thing called the civil war settled that score. That is just my opinion.

Please enjoy cruising the old trail to the wee hours of the morning.

10-30-2012, 08:14 PM
Indians are hate, greed, bigots, and drunk liars.

11-04-2012, 09:26 AM
Indians are hate, greed, bigots, and drunk liars.
You sound like a white person. Thats funny for you to accuse indians of that. You people are amusing. Go ahead and make fure your accusations and lets have history decide the truth about people.

11-06-2012, 09:12 PM
WOW, that was a great response. Racist, Miccosukee??? Never, they fire everyone equally. Well, except themselves for the rules apply to everyone else but the tribal members. :cry:

11-08-2012, 05:01 AM
Yep, there have been members that have been fired obviously. Yoyu will never understand. So I hope you enjoy and take care.

11-09-2012, 09:14 PM
Indians are hate, greed, bigots, and drunk liars.
Those words are the nicest things I could think of :evil: about the indians........ now let me tell you their bad ......................@#$%^&*()_!@#$%^&*()@#$%^&*()@#$%^&*()

11-12-2012, 11:31 PM
Yep, there have been members that have been fired obviously. Yoyu will never understand. So I hope you enjoy and take care.
like never coming to work? or showing up impaired? or not working period? NEVER UNDERSTAND WHAT?

11-14-2012, 06:45 AM
Actually we get bored and like to mess with you guys on the internet just to get a reaction out of you guys. Half the time your responses are sad and predictable.

11-14-2012, 07:32 PM
Actually we get bored and like to mess with you guys on the internet just to get a reaction out of you guys. Half the time your responses are sad and predictable.
I guess you are correct lord knows I keep forgetting that you the chosen ones. MY bad

11-23-2012, 06:19 PM
Enough of this indian non-sense. Maybe someday when we learn...AMERICAN Nation will return, will return, WILL RETURN! :wink:

12-08-2012, 01:39 AM
How can they really trust its officers if this is how they speak of them? How do you expect them to even provide raises or better equipment( radios that work anywhere) and benefits if officers don't really care about them. Like any small department, especially when the community pays a large amount taxes for the police the community members call the shots. It is true that the department and the council terminate its officers unfairly but reality is that they pay for their officers. and the purpose of the officers are to protect them. yes I have heard stories and what they do to their officers is very wrong but they where the first to give me chance in the field. they provide us with really good equipment and training that might not be available in other departments. the miccosukee tribe employs hundreds of people especially in the casino. i am greatful for the job because it provides for my family. this is a place to vent true, we are professionals. role models for the communitywe should express our thoughts in that manner. there are proper ways to disagree. many departments are political and corrupted as well. many different cultures excessively drink and do drugs. and not all the tribal members are the same. truth is money is made easy. things arent going to change and coming in everyone knows how it is so why complain. some of the tribal members are really nice people. we shouldnt sterotype... we do why because they have money? well they do alot of charity too fairs and festivals for kids. no job is perfect and no matter the department there will always be issues. do what are expected to do easy as that and you will last as long as 5 years as the current ones, or 12 and 15 as previous. jenny was a good officer and person and i had the pleasure of meeting her. she will do just fine in any other department because she is ambitious smart and outgoing. good luck jenny

01-15-2013, 02:08 AM
All non indian employees of the tribe need to find another employer, anyone can be fired for no good reason whenever they please.