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11-09-2010, 12:03 AM
Well now that VPD is going to get a new chief. Lets start throwing out some names for potential candidates. I'll toss out the 1st two.
Dan McGoogan
John Kost
Don't give any names of current VPD brass as they do not have a chance.

11-09-2010, 12:13 AM
Mickey Mouse
John Patten
Amadenijad
Jack Sparrow

11-09-2010, 12:16 AM
Alex Sink is looking for a job!!!!

Nancy Pelosi will do it if it allows her to be in charge.

11-09-2010, 12:20 AM
Ouch!!! Don't hold back tell it like you really feel.

11-09-2010, 08:01 PM
How about Radzilowski from Bradenton PD?

He is just what you guys need to turn your department around, and he lives down in south Sarasota County.

11-09-2010, 10:11 PM
Why in the world would Chief Raz leave BPD? He is building a second retirement. Why come to VPD when he probably doesn't want to work that many years anyway. You have more of a chance of getting BPD Deputy Chief Tokajer and he is a great guy.

12-08-2010, 02:07 PM
zzzzzzz

12-08-2010, 04:24 PM
The RAZ would be good for Venice. He has always put the Officers first and stands up to City Hall for them. But...

He only gets a salary from Bradenton no retirement plan or Health Insurance - he gets that from his days in DC so it's possible Venice could lure him away for the right price.

However he says after 40 years as a LEO he is done when he leaves Bradenton so I agree they should really see about DC Tokajer who I think VPD would be pleased with.

12-08-2010, 04:25 PM
Razz would be great!!

12-09-2010, 01:34 AM
Please take RAZz, PLEEEEEAAASSSEEE.............................

12-09-2010, 03:46 PM
Thanks, we should but our City Hall can't seem figure out what would be the best thing to do.

12-15-2010, 02:58 PM
Well looks like we will be working for Chief Terry Lewis very soon!!! He will be cleaning some house from I already heard!! :cop:

12-15-2010, 03:19 PM
Well looks like we will be working for Chief Terry Lewis very soon!!! He will be cleaning some house from I already heard!! :cop:

Not so fast. Dave Gustafson has also announced that he will be applying and he appears to have a better rep than Lewis. McGoogan might throw his hat in the ring as well, but I have no official confirmation. Gustafson was at yesterday's city council meeting. I voted for him for Sheriff and I think he'd make a good chief for what it's worth. McGoogan would not be a bad choice, either.

There's also a former New England police chief floating around, Randy Mineo. He currently works in the New York State insurance fraud squad something or other. I've met him several times and gotten to know both he and his wife -- good solid folks and I trust him.

Based on some other things I know, I think Gustafson has the inside track, not Lewis, despite what the H-T wrote -- they needed a pic to go with the story, so Lewis' pic was published.

12-15-2010, 07:57 PM
Gustafson has no experience to be a Chief of even a campus p.d.! The guy is a wannabe, that will never get a Chief or elected position!

12-16-2010, 01:44 PM
Well looks like we will be working for Chief Terry Lewis very soon!!! He will be cleaning some house from I already heard!! :cop:
Nice piece of grandstanding by the North Port Chief..... Glad to see nothing has changed with him....

12-17-2010, 08:42 PM
http://www.heraldtribune.com/article/20101215/ARTICLE/12151044/2055/NEWS?Title=Venice-council-to-hold-own-search-for-new-police-chief

http://www.heraldtribune.com/article/20101217/ARTICLE/12171019


Regarding TL: He's a shoo-in for VPD and his hands will be tied-up there. Would he ever want to run for sheriff of Sarasota County in the future??? Who knows!!!! But he's certainly setting himself up to have a good track record to become the next sheriff. He'll have countywide name recognition, in addition to being the chief at two of our municipal police departments. He'd be a shoo-in if he ran for sheriff. However, he he becomes our sheriff, then I'm quittin!!!! :shock:

Terry Lewis jumped the gun and incorrectly fired that NPPD 911 operator, but then NPPD had to hire her back because TL's firing was bad, so now TL has egg on his face. The NPPD 911 operator is also suing the City of North Port, so the NP commissioners are very unhappy with him and they've basically asked TL to "leave quietly."

Why would the Venice counsel members want to hire TL after that fiasco??? Why wouldn't TL want to stay at NPPD instead of jumping to a different city? Answer: TL is jumping the NPPD ship because the City of North Port doesn't want him there anymore!!! And neither does the City of Venice!!!

:devil:

12-18-2010, 05:36 PM
Dear Venice city council...please please please hire Mr. Gustafson... Then you can have all his croonies from the SSO both current, retired and fired apply with you. You will also receive a certain fired SSO employee turned computer web site designer as your IT guy. As an added bonus his transition team will be certain "cooks" involved with the CALTROP watch dog group. It is not that he has any "real" supervisory or police experience it is just that it will occupy his and his band of malcontent nut jobs time and which should cause the hits on the SSO part of this board to drop off dramatically.... :devil:

12-19-2010, 03:12 PM
Here's a pic of TL shaking your hand:

http://impacthiringsolutions.com/careerblog/wp-content/uploads/2009/08/businessmen-knife-in-back-hg-wht.gif

http://impacthiringsolutions.com/careerblog/wp-content/uploads/2009/08/businessmen-knife-in-back-hg-wht.gif

:devil:

12-20-2010, 01:41 PM
Dave Gustafson HAS NOT put his resume in (yet, anyway), as reported by the H-T and copied by the Gondo.

Several others, including Lewis, have, and their names can be found here: http://venfl.blogspot.com/2010/12/2010-12-20.html

12-23-2010, 12:43 AM
Chief Lewis would be the greatest thing that happens to VPD... Maybe a good house cleaning is just what the doctor ordered. He has done wonderws with Nort Port PD. Go TL you get my vote. The others caouldn't hold his jock.

12-24-2010, 01:43 AM
The problem with the TL (not that he's a bad guy) are his VPD's supporters are the PROBLEM PEOPLE. They are like rats on a sinking ship. Hang on for the ride, the circus has never left Venice!

12-31-2010, 02:41 AM
you guys can have TL and while your at it take his little yes man too before we're stuck with him till he gets fired fo incompetency

01-03-2011, 07:22 PM
We tried warning NPPD what TL was really like when he worked for us at the SO and now they found out. I hope you guys don't have to.

01-03-2011, 11:38 PM
Venice would be so much better of with TL. He's forgotten more than most of you reading this forum. Go TL go.

icehammer
01-04-2011, 03:02 PM
Why does the TL treated like that?

01-04-2011, 09:42 PM
Why does the TL treated like that?
I'm lousy at deciphering pig latin icehammer, what the hell are you saying here?

03-02-2011, 02:55 PM
POLICE CAPTAIN PUNISHEDWILLIAM TOKAJER ALSO GETS SIX MONTHS' PROBATION
FOR DERELICTION DURING APOLICE BRUTALITY INCIDENT.(LOCAL/STATE)Sarasota Herald Tribune| March 01, 1997 | Nguyen, Phuong
Byline: Phuong Nguyen STAFF WRITER

A high-ranking official with the Bradenton Police Department was placed
on two weeks' suspension and six months' probation Friday following an
internal investigation that found him derelict during a police
brutality incident.
Counseling statements will be issued to two other officers who were
present during the incident. The measure is one of the mildest forms of
discipline a Bradenton Police officer can receive.

Capt. William Tokajer - who held the rank of lieutenant on Feb. 1,
1996, when one of his shift members used unwarranted force against a
suspect - was faulted for not promptly reporting what occurred.

Tokajer was the direct supervisor of officers Kevin Carmichael, Curtis
Johnson and Rich Murray, who that day patrolled areas in the city known
for illicit narcotic violations.

Carmichael is accused of using unnecessary brutality by hitting a man
on the head with his agency-issued flashlight following a foot chase.
The man, Louis Shelley, suffered a cut to his head and a broken finger.

Shelley told another officer while being treated at the hospital that
other officers made him sign a statement saying he hit his head on a
fence or a rock.

Polaroids were taken of Shelley's injuries during the booking process.
Yet the pictures cannot be found.

Only when another officer heard about the incident and reported the
allegations to supervisors Sept. 3, 1996, was an internal investigation
launched.

In the meantime, an independent criminal probe into the arrested man's
allegations surfaced. The internal review was suspended.

Findings on Friday state, "While a prompt and more detailed reporting
of the incident by the involved parties would certainly not have
lessened Carmichael's culpability, it would have allowed for quicker
Departmental action and may have prevented (a) later incident." Deputy
Chief Walt Watkins also wrote, "The responsibility to see that this
documentation occurred was that of Captain (then Lieutenant) Tokajer."

Tokajer knew what transpired between suspect Shelley and Carmichael,
Shelley told authorities.

Tokajer subsequently failed a polygraph test when asked about the
extent of his knowledge surrounding the events.". . . Captain Tokajer should have acted more responsibly with regard
to this situation," Maj. Anthony Meador wrote in his findings, made
public Friday. ". . . He should have written a report and detailed
memorandum outlining the entire incident involving Louis Shelley."

Tokajer's punishment is considered severe among penalties that can be
issued at the Bradenton Police Department.

Officer Carmichael on July 31 was arrested in the case, on charges of
aggravated battery and official misconduct. Carmichael's case is
pending in court. He maintains his innocence.

The internal probe of the incident was resumed after Carmichael's
arrest. Bradenton Police Detective Pat Proudler reported as part of
Carmichael's arrest that Johnson, Tokajer and Murray may have covered
up the brutality.

Two accusations of brutality have surfaced against Carmichael.

Even before his arrest and firing, Carmichael was suspended after
authorities investigated another officer's charge. This one claimed
excessive force by Carmichael on Feb. 25, 1996 - weeks after the first
incident. Carmichael was found guilty of excessive-force related
charges at the conclusion of the internal review.

In the later incident, Carmichael likewise was accused of hitting a
28-year-old man with a flashlight during an arrest. The second incident
occurred at the Blue Moon Bar.

No criminal charges were filed in that case.

In his findings Friday, Deputy Chief Watkins referred to the first
instance of abuse when he wrote, ". . . a prompt and more detailed
reporting of the incident . . . may have prevented the later incident
at the Blue Moon Bar altogether."

And Watkins wrote, "The two-week suspension of Captain Tokajer is
severe, however, considering all circumstances, and the fact that he
was both present and directly in charge of the entire incident, I
believe it to be appropriate." Tokajer issued this prepared statement
Friday afternoon:

"Early on in this investigation I asked God for forgiveness for the
errors I made. Now that the investigation is over I would like to
apologize to my family, friends, department members and community. . .
. I accept the finding of my department. In the future while following
God's plan, I will be sure to use better judgment. I am working towards
doing the best job I can for my family, my department and my
community."

As for the other officers with knowledge of the first flashlight
incident, Johnson was cleared of charges of official misconduct and
Murray was cleared of charges of police brutality and official
misconduct.

Murray and Johnson were cited for not completing any supplemental
reports or use-of-force forms.

Carmichael was found guilty of brutality and cleared of official
misconduct. Because Carmichael is no longer with the force, he does not
face disciplinary action. Had he still been employed, he would have
been fired Friday, Meador wrote.

The department declined to comment on the investigation, citing
possible civil litigation.

03-02-2011, 03:00 PM
Stay Tuned more to come. :twisted:

03-02-2011, 03:06 PM
POLICE CAPTAIN PUNISHEDWILLIAM TOKAJER ALSO GETS SIX MONTHS' PROBATION
FOR DERELICTION DURING APOLICE BRUTALITY INCIDENT.(LOCAL/STATE)Sarasota Herald Tribune| March 01, 1997 | Nguyen, Phuong
Byline: Phuong Nguyen STAFF WRITER

A high-ranking official with the Bradenton Police Department was placed
on two weeks' suspension and six months' probation Friday following an
internal investigation that found him derelict during a police
brutality incident.
Counseling statements will be issued to two other officers who were
present during the incident. The measure is one of the mildest forms of
discipline a Bradenton Police officer can receive.

Capt. William Tokajer - who held the rank of lieutenant on Feb. 1,
1996, when one of his shift members used unwarranted force against a
suspect - was faulted for not promptly reporting what occurred.

Tokajer was the direct supervisor of officers Kevin Carmichael, Curtis
Johnson and Rich Murray, who that day patrolled areas in the city known
for illicit narcotic violations.

Carmichael is accused of using unnecessary brutality by hitting a man
on the head with his agency-issued flashlight following a foot chase.
The man, Louis Shelley, suffered a cut to his head and a broken finger.

Shelley told another officer while being treated at the hospital that
other officers made him sign a statement saying he hit his head on a
fence or a rock.

Polaroids were taken of Shelley's injuries during the booking process.
Yet the pictures cannot be found.

Only when another officer heard about the incident and reported the
allegations to supervisors Sept. 3, 1996, was an internal investigation
launched.

In the meantime, an independent criminal probe into the arrested man's
allegations surfaced. The internal review was suspended.

Findings on Friday state, "While a prompt and more detailed reporting
of the incident by the involved parties would certainly not have
lessened Carmichael's culpability, it would have allowed for quicker
Departmental action and may have prevented (a) later incident." Deputy
Chief Walt Watkins also wrote, "The responsibility to see that this
documentation occurred was that of Captain (then Lieutenant) Tokajer."

Tokajer knew what transpired between suspect Shelley and Carmichael,
Shelley told authorities.

Tokajer subsequently failed a polygraph test when asked about the
extent of his knowledge surrounding the events.". . . Captain Tokajer should have acted more responsibly with regard
to this situation," Maj. Anthony Meador wrote in his findings, made
public Friday. ". . . He should have written a report and detailed
memorandum outlining the entire incident involving Louis Shelley."

Tokajer's punishment is considered severe among penalties that can be
issued at the Bradenton Police Department.

Officer Carmichael on July 31 was arrested in the case, on charges of
aggravated battery and official misconduct. Carmichael's case is
pending in court. He maintains his innocence.

The internal probe of the incident was resumed after Carmichael's
arrest. Bradenton Police Detective Pat Proudler reported as part of
Carmichael's arrest that Johnson, Tokajer and Murray may have covered
up the brutality.

Two accusations of brutality have surfaced against Carmichael.

Even before his arrest and firing, Carmichael was suspended after
authorities investigated another officer's charge. This one claimed
excessive force by Carmichael on Feb. 25, 1996 - weeks after the first
incident. Carmichael was found guilty of excessive-force related
charges at the conclusion of the internal review.

In the later incident, Carmichael likewise was accused of hitting a
28-year-old man with a flashlight during an arrest. The second incident
occurred at the Blue Moon Bar.

No criminal charges were filed in that case.

In his findings Friday, Deputy Chief Watkins referred to the first
instance of abuse when he wrote, ". . . a prompt and more detailed
reporting of the incident . . . may have prevented the later incident
at the Blue Moon Bar altogether."

And Watkins wrote, "The two-week suspension of Captain Tokajer is
severe, however, considering all circumstances, and the fact that he
was both present and directly in charge of the entire incident, I
believe it to be appropriate." Tokajer issued this prepared statement
Friday afternoon:

"Early on in this investigation I asked God for forgiveness for the
errors I made. Now that the investigation is over I would like to
apologize to my family, friends, department members and community. . .
. I accept the finding of my department. In the future while following
God's plan, I will be sure to use better judgment. I am working towards
doing the best job I can for my family, my department and my
community."

As for the other officers with knowledge of the first flashlight
incident, Johnson was cleared of charges of official misconduct and
Murray was cleared of charges of police brutality and official
misconduct.

Murray and Johnson were cited for not completing any supplemental
reports or use-of-force forms.

Carmichael was found guilty of brutality and cleared of official
misconduct. Because Carmichael is no longer with the force, he does not
face disciplinary action. Had he still been employed, he would have
been fired Friday, Meador wrote.

The department declined to comment on the investigation, citing

possible civil litigation.


GEE................that was 13 years ago. He has come a ong way. The troops would like him, he is very smart guy and woud be a good Police Chief as he has proven that over the last 10 years.

This is all BS anyway as it's going to be Terry Lewis.

03-02-2011, 04:01 PM
Oh you poor misguided soul. Any one would be better than him. He will use you and then throw you to the wolves to save his own arse.

03-02-2011, 06:50 PM
Bradenton Herald, The (FL) - April 14, 1991

INCIDENT INVOLVING OFFICER UNREPORTED
Bradenton Police Detective Bill Tokajer did not report an incident last November involving an argument that another detective is under investigation for allegedly pointing a gun at his wife.The State Attorney's Office started a criminal investigation April 4 against acting Sgt. Curtis McFee.Tokajer, who said he was present during the argument, did not report it to police officials because neither McFee nor his wife ``wanted the incident reported, plus the argument was...


Do you see a pattern?

03-02-2011, 07:25 PM
Bradenton Herald, The (FL) - April 14, 1991

INCIDENT INVOLVING OFFICER UNREPORTED
Bradenton Police Detective Bill Tokajer did not report an incident last November involving an argument that another detective is under investigation for allegedly pointing a gun at his wife.The State Attorney's Office started a criminal investigation April 4 against acting Sgt. Curtis McFee.Tokajer, who said he was present during the argument, did not report it to police officials because neither McFee nor his wife ``wanted the incident reported, plus the argument was...

The Tampa Tribune - April 16, 1991

Cop agrees he didn't report fight
Detective Bill Tokajer acknowledges he didn't report an incident in which a fellow city police officer is suspected of pointing a gun at his wife.But Tokajer denies he saw acting Sgt. Curtis McFee, 32, point a weapon at his wife, Kathryn, 36, during an argument at the couple's home Nov. 3. Yes, I was at their house, but at no time did I see Sgt. McFee point a gun at his wife's head or anyone else...The Tampa Tribune - May 1, 1991

Officer demoted, suspended
Police Detective Bill Tokajer was suspended for two days and demoted Tuesday for failing to report a quarrel in which Tokajer's then-boss is accused of pointing a gun at his wife's head.High-ranking police officials had recommended Tokajer be suspended for five days because of the incident between former Sgt. Curtis McFee, 32, and his wife, Kathryn, 36. Police Chief Vito Badalamenti, however, imposed the shorter suspension. ""I will convey...

Bradenton Herald, The (FL) - May 1, 1991

DETECTIVE CITED IN GUN-PULLING CASE

A Bradenton Police detective who said he saw former acting Sgt. Curtis McFee pull a .45-caliber pistol on his wife was cited Tuesday for failing to report the incident when it happened. Bradenton Police Chief Vic Badalamenti suspended Det.Bill Tokajer for two days, laterally transferred him to the patrol division - bringing a $1,000 cut in pay - and put him on a three month probation period.Tokajer said he accepted the chief's action and does not plan to appeal...

Also MSO filed a Capias against him charging him as an Accessory After The Fact.

03-20-2011, 01:32 AM
Go Terry Go

03-24-2011, 12:18 AM
Go Terry Go

That's exactly what our brothers and sisters at NPPD are saying!

04-06-2011, 01:07 AM
Is TL chief yet I need to come see him for a job. GO TL

04-07-2011, 12:35 AM
Is TL chief yet I need to come see him for a job. GO TL
Very funny TL and by the way do you know what the S.O. used to say the TL stood for? :roll: I hope it's a bubble bursting trip you have to get here.

04-11-2011, 11:32 PM
When is Terry getting sworn in I need to press my suit for the celebration.

04-14-2011, 08:21 PM
When is Terry getting sworn in I need to press my suit for the celebration.
See? He doesn't need a PR man cuz he comes on here as his own PR man. You are a shallow egotist TL.

04-15-2011, 07:42 PM
Three of the most high profile murder cases in county history have a happened under his watch in numerous department.

All resulted in complaints and questions in his actions during such.

His personal appointed replacement at the NPPD is following in his same questionable type of past actions.

Venice will have the samething to look forward to is he made our chief.

04-16-2011, 03:25 AM
But wait.... I think they all were solved with a very successful conclusion. Try again loser

04-16-2011, 04:47 PM
Not because of HIM! He's only there to accept the kudos. He is about as much of a cop as Hilary Clinton is a presidential candidate. DO NOT BE FOOLED!

04-22-2011, 01:20 AM
Then he can put the people in place to do the job

04-22-2011, 09:15 AM
Then he can put the people in place to do the job

Wrong on that one to.
TL: Hey, I am off to another city paid seminar our of town peopl.
Flip a coin guys to see who wil be incharge while I am off on a paid vacation.

04-23-2011, 06:16 AM
But wait.... I think they all were solved with a very successful conclusion. Try again loser

Not by his headline grabbing *ss that is for sure!!!!

The Sarasota murder was solved after he was no longer in charge.
The NPPD murder was solved by the FDLE, after he had his departemnt doggedly pursue the father of the murder victim.
It turned out to be an area burglar.

Now you were saying something "LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOSER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

04-25-2011, 06:49 PM
But wait.... I think they all were solved with a very successful conclusion. Try again loser

Not by his headline grabbing *ss that is for sure!!!!

The Sarasota murder was solved after he was no longer in charge.
The NPPD murder was solved by the FDLE, after he had his departemnt doggedly pursue the father of the murder victim.
It turned out to be an area burglar.

Now you were saying something "LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOSER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Heeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeey!!!!!!!!!!!!

That kind of shut TL down real fast.

The truth sure hurts don't it?????????

04-27-2011, 01:23 AM
Congrats to Tom! Y'all would have really regreted getting the ex North Port blowhard!

grouper
04-29-2011, 03:02 PM
Let the lying, and hiding continue or actually increase now in Venice. There will be 3-6 months of newlywed syndrome, and then the Cowardly Lion will go back to his usual. Sorry Venice, I keep getting my hopes up for a real change, just to face reality. Life Sucks!!

04-30-2011, 06:42 PM
Life Sucks!!

Yeah, and so would Lewis as your chief.
Captain Bligh would have been a better chief over him.

08-16-2011, 03:19 PM
Check out Fort Myers PD forum, don't consider Rich Carr for chief he will ruin your agency!!!

02-20-2012, 02:08 AM
Wow, all that about nothing. Tok has ridden off into the Long Boat Sunset, TL is an acting County Commissioner, and silence rues the day.

Have to hand it to "The Leak." Pity you didn't have him/her help select the Chief.

And who ever suggested that Tokajer (a.k.a. Teflon Bill, as nothing ever sticks) was a good choice, needs a career change, perhaps Public Relations.

Be Safe VPD, and be glad you didn't get V.D. with W.T.

Unregistered
02-08-2018, 03:43 PM
http://www.heraldtribune.com/article/20101215/ARTICLE/12151044/2055/NEWS?Title=Venice-council-to-hold-own-search-for-new-police-chief

http://www.heraldtribune.com/article/20101217/ARTICLE/12171019



Terry Lewis jumped the gun and incorrectly fired that NPPD 911 operator, but then NPPD had to hire her back because TL's firing was bad, so now TL has egg on his face. The NPPD 911 operator is also suing the City of North Port, so the NP commissioners are very unhappy with him and they've basically asked TL to "leave quietly."

Why would the Venice counsel members want to hire TL after that fiasco??? Why wouldn't TL want to stay at NPPD instead of jumping to a different city? Answer: TL is jumping the NPPD ship because the City of North Port doesn't want him there anymore!!! And neither does the City of Venice!!!

:devil:

Well wouldn't that just figure, what a great fit since VPD will be getting Vespia. TL took Vespia under his wing and "trained" him for the Chief's position. What a fine mess created there. I hope for the sake of VPD that you get a Chief worth his salt. Take it from someone that was at NPPD for 28 years and recently was forced out with BS charges. I don't want to see VPD become NPPD north.

PS - I missed what happened to Mattmuller

Pam Schmidt
Former CSI NPPD