You Tube videos posted by Sgt on I-10 of people peeing @ bar

You tube link below to the now famous peeing videos.
http://www.youtube.com/user/littleInthesky1

Link to video of the cameras @ his house.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KgWYmE8zKHY

If you notice the zoom in and out and the panning of the camera to follow people, he is sitting there watching and recording to be able to do this.

He lives right next to the bar so it is him, the cameras are his.

Thats sounds like he is stalking those people to me..

Look he created his own website and added his own "fan Page"...This is not going to end well for one or the other.

http://redcowsaloon.com/cow-pokes.html

well good for him at least now the story is getting out no rumors and such

Are you crazy what do you mean get the story out. The story is that he is taking something that is happening everywhere and making it his own fight. He is mentioned on Utube even his state car is in the latest video, he is mentioned as "R", and not in the positive sense. It needs to stop The Upper management in this department need to put a stop to it. He is making us a laughing stock that so much attention is put on someone peeing. If you don't like it move.....you make enough on a Sgt. pay...or for at least dont park your car in so it appears in the video.
With boys have you ever stopped on the side of the road and let them pee on a long distance ride? And what is up with the one woman with the black smiley face on her, is that someone we know and now they are covering faces, but not arses?
Enough is enough!

Check this story out!

Over 166 comments from the community and 99% are against what the Sgt is doing!

http://madisonfloridavoice.net/?p=1245&cpage=2#comment-1577

The majority of people tend to confuse morality with consensus. Consensus does not make right. Right makes right. Contrary to popular thought, consensus does not define rightness. Right is right, and wrong is wrong, everything else is merely opinion. Consensus, no matter how strong the percentile, can never change that fact. Do not be swayed by consensus, be swayed by truth. The truth here is that these "pissers" and outside drinkers are breaking the law.

Now with that being said, this Sgt could have gone about this is a different way I guess, but the fact is that it is to late for that now. Since the Sheriff is the Chief Law Enforcement Official within his/her county according to the State law/constitution it is his/her duty to enforce the law as should be being done but is not. Is this ethical on the Sheriff's part? Nope! Is what the Sgt doing ethical? That is questionable. Is it within the Sgt's rights as a tax paying citizen of Madison County to call the Sheriff Department when he observes someone violating the law? Yes it is, as a citizen it is his duty. Picture/video are used as evidence in child porn cases so why can they not be used here? It would appear though that an obsession has developed to some degree on the Sgt's part.

If a consensus of the community feels it is OK to sell crack and meth in the streets to school children does that make it right? No it is still against the law and wrong and the dealers would be jailed for it.

If there was no bathroom in the bar, that would be one thing, there is so it should be used. Maybe the bar owner should put port-o-toilets in the parking lot? Would these folks use them? Probably not.

The majority of people tend to confuse morality with consensus. Consensus does not make right. Right makes right. Contrary to popular thought, consensus does not define rightness. Right is right, and wrong is wrong, everything else is merely opinion. Consensus, no matter how strong the percentile, can never change that fact. Do not be swayed by consensus, be swayed by truth. The truth here is that these "pissers" and outside drinkers are breaking the law.

Now with that being said, this Sgt could have gone about this is a different way I guess, but the fact is that it is to late for that now. Since the Sheriff is the Chief Law Enforcement Official within his/her county according to the State law/constitution it is his/her duty to enforce the law as should be being done but is not. Is this ethical on the Sheriff's part? Nope! Is what the Sgt doing ethical? That is questionable. Is it within the Sgt's rights as a tax paying citizen of Madison County to call the Sheriff Department when he observes someone violating the law? Yes it is, as a citizen it is his duty. Picture/video are used as evidence in child porn cases so why can they not be used here? It would appear though that an obsession has developed to some degree on the Sgt's part.

If a consensus of the community feels it is OK to sell crack and meth in the streets to school children does that make it right? No it is still against the law and wrong and the dealers would be jailed for it.

If there was no bathroom in the bar, that would be one thing, there is so it should be used. Maybe the bar owner should put port-o-toilets in the parking lot? Would these folks use them? Probably not.

By your post you seem well educated and have looked at the subject from both angles.

With that being said what your are quoting as facts are far from the truth. The FACT is that the Sheriff's Department has been able to identify some of the people in the videos and has sent in PC affidavits on the identified persons. The States Attorneys Office declined to prosecute the cases.

This whole situation has became a mess for everyone involved!!!

The town ordinance can be enforced with out involving the State Attorney if I am not mistaken. If I am please forgive my ignorance in this area. Since there appears to be a town ordinance in place that prohibits these actions then the Sheriff has the duty to enforce them not just the statute.

If what you say is true about the charges with the State Attorney Office then that is something that I was unaware of and the Sheriff needs to make that knowledge public as it would make him look better in the public eye. At least it would appear that he is trying to remedy the situation by doing so and that it is the State Attorney that is standing in the way of resolving this out of control problem.

I do not know if there is any kind of cess and desist order that could be issued to both parties in an attempt to bring this all to an end but that would carry penalties if further action is taken by either side.

The town ordinance can be enforced with out involving the State Attorney if I am not mistaken. If I am please forgive my ignorance in this area. Since there appears to be a town ordinance in place that prohibits these actions then the Sheriff has the duty to enforce them not just the statute.

If what you say is true about the charges with the State Attorney Office then that is something that I was unaware of and the Sheriff needs to make that knowledge public as it would make him look better in the public eye. At least it would appear that he is trying to remedy the situation by doing so and that it is the State Attorney that is standing in the way of resolving this out of control problem.

I do not know if there is any kind of cess and desist order that could be issued to both parties in an attempt to bring this all to an end but that would carry penalties if further action is taken by either side.

Violations of city ordinances are also prosecuted by the States Attorney. Without there support you can not prosecute a criminal case in the State Of Florida.

The town ordinance can be enforced with out involving the State Attorney if I am not mistaken. If I am please forgive my ignorance in this area. Since there appears to be a town ordinance in place that prohibits these actions then the Sheriff has the duty to enforce them not just the statute.

If what you say is true about the charges with the State Attorney Office then that is something that I was unaware of and the Sheriff needs to make that knowledge public as it would make him look better in the public eye. At least it would appear that he is trying to remedy the situation by doing so and that it is the State Attorney that is standing in the way of resolving this out of control problem.

I do not know if there is any kind of cess and desist order that could be issued to both parties in an attempt to bring this all to an end but that would carry penalties if further action is taken by either side.

Violations of city ordinances are also prosecuted by the States Attorney. Without there support you can not prosecute a criminal case in the State Of Florida.


Shrapnel,

Violations of city ordinances are also prosecuted by the States Attorney. Without there support you can not prosecute a criminal case in the State Of Florida.

As far as the Sheriff making the fact that the SAO declined prosecution, HE DID. In a personal interview given to the Independent Radio News by him he explained that fact very well. Maybe you haven't been following the story closely so here is the link for you to read the Sheriff's response.

http://madisonfloridavoice.net/?p=4222

As far as a cease and desist order that would required either the bar, City Of Lee, or Mr. Smith getting an attorney and pursuing that in civil court, that is not something the Sheriff's Department can get involved in.

If Big "R" as they call him has that big of a problem why did he move there? It was there before him and he has done alot worse stuff than that. If it is so bad he has a gun and badge and a take home car fix the problem big "R". More than likely he would not know how to enforce that kinda laws.

You have missed the "Big Picture". He is making us here at Ag Law look like a bunch of fools. He has basically ruined our relationship with the Madison SO and what if some of the so called pissers work at another LEO, that is screwed too. It is a big wide interstate and help for us could be a while away....He is still violating policy, violating privacy and just violating the rest of us by the shame! They post who he is and where he works specifically the Region....and has pictures of his car wait our cars on U-TUBE..les not we forget that!
Look at the Big Picture here he should of chose another venue certainly not utube for his fight and certainly not with a bar. He is all over the newspaper and on the local news. Hey....I bet if Roger was here he would be at Fanning yesterday.....getting the "Big Picture" speech. Sometimes you need to look futher than your own fight to see who you are killing in the process. Thanks Mr. R......yet again you have brought shame and disgrace to our agency.

His nickname was/is Russel the Love Muscle. I know some women that could be influenced to file sexual harassment charges.

His nickname was/is Russel the Love Muscle. I know some women that could be influenced to file sexual harassment charges.
Freak,

Your Mom promised not to tell.....

Tell? She could not quit laughing, she would say "Russel the love muscle" and then just laugh hysterically. She kept saying something about "there ain't no muscle in that love". What's up with that?