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12-20-2009, 02:26 AM
What's the scoop w/ the Sgt and the alleged home invasion? Hear a lot of crazy stories about a box cutter and discharging his weapon? Any word on what the status is?

12-20-2009, 02:52 AM
What's the scoop w/ the Sgt and the alleged home invasion? Hear a lot of crazy stories about a box cutter and discharging his weapon? Any word on what the status is?


IF YOU ARE TRULY A LAW ENFORCEMENT OFFICER ,,,THEN YOU SHOULDN'T WONDER OR WORRY ABOUT ANYTHING....IF YOU HAVE A QUESTION FOR THAT OFFICER ASK HIM PERSONALLY ,,NOT ON THIS MESSAGE BOARD...IF YOU ARE A PERSON WHO IS TRULY A LAW ENFORCEMENT OFFICER ...THEN YOU WOULD UNDERSTAND THAT IT ISN'T RIGHT TO BE ASKING THIS SO THAT A MILLION PEOPLE CAN PUT THEIR BULLSHIT COMMENTS AND EMBARRAS THIS PARTICULAR SGT....HE AND THE OTHER TWO HAVE BEEN PUT THROUGH HELL AND BACK AND IT'S ONLY JUST STARTED.... IF YOU ARE TRULY A LAW ENFORCEMENT OFFICER..THEN I THINK THE ONLY THING YOU NEED TO DO IS WHAT WE ARE ALL DOING AND SHOWING SUPPORT

12-21-2009, 04:12 AM
Yea if you are a cop, you should know better!

Sorry if you were looking for some dirt and for RBPD officers to talk crap about each other. Not happening brother! We are unified like we've always been, excluding a few disgruntled employees. :evil:

12-21-2009, 11:55 PM
The status is this: PBGPD dropped the ball on the intial investiagtion. Poor response, bad scene management and some detectives who could not find their own A*S with two hands, especially the overweight Sgt. RG. RBPD has done a great job of standing by their SGT. and their law enforcement brother, and arriving on scene the night of the initial incident well before those clowns from PBGPD. Instead of asking what the status is in here, call PBGPD and ask them WTF were they thinking ? I read that PC Affidavit online and I am still trying to find the PC part of it. If I were SGT RG or DET RM of PBGPD, I would be embarrassed to sign my name to that. Thats just my two cents. Keep up the great work RBPD.

12-24-2009, 09:15 AM
The status is this: PBGPD dropped the ball on the intial investiagtion. Poor response, bad scene management and some detectives who could not find their own A*S with two hands, especially the overweight Sgt. RG. RBPD has done a great job of standing by their SGT. and their law enforcement brother, and arriving on scene the night of the initial incident well before those clowns from PBGPD. Instead of asking what the status is in here, call PBGPD and ask them WTF were they thinking ? I read that PC Affidavit online and I am still trying to find the PC part of it. If I were SGT RG or DET RM of PBGPD, I would be embarrassed to sign my name to that. Thats just my two cents. Keep up the great work RBPD.

2Cover2 how do I find this PC online with out having to go the the SAO or PBG? Please post the link.

12-24-2009, 01:40 PM
http://alt.coxnewsweb.com/palmbeachpost ... on&PCs.pdf (http://alt.coxnewsweb.com/palmbeachpost/news/PublicIntegrityInvestigationInformation&PCs.pdf)

12-24-2009, 05:47 PM
The status is this: PBGPD dropped the ball on the intial investiagtion. Poor response, bad scene management and some detectives who could not find their own A*S with two hands, especially the overweight Sgt. RG. RBPD has done a great job of standing by their SGT. and their law enforcement brother, and arriving on scene the night of the initial incident well before those clowns from PBGPD. Instead of asking what the status is in here, call PBGPD and ask them WTF were they thinking ? I read that PC Affidavit online and I am still trying to find the PC part of it. If I were SGT RG or DET RM of PBGPD, I would be embarrassed to sign my name to that. Thats just my two cents. Keep up the great work RBPD.

PBGPD dropped the ball on this investigation? THAT’S PRECIOUS! It was the same outstanding, professional work we always do. That’s the reason RBPD’s Sgt. has been charged-the investigators saw right through the PATHETIC story and did what they had to do. As far as RBPD’s responding before we did, that’s because your Sgt. got on his radio and screamed like the *itch that he is and we didn’t get notified until we saw RB units running up Military Trail code three. And ask your Sgt. what kind of arrest history he has with Gardens and the incident at the Gardens Alehouse that cost him $2,000.00 out of his own pocket to fix his drunken screw-up …it isn’t just this incident. The PC was written better than ANYTHING that has ever come out of your sorry excuse for a police department (and our Detective sergeant actually was on-scene and physically signed his own name on the PC). As far as the RB detective that just went back to the road-we’ve heard him putting us down-“What does Gardens know about shooting investigations…?” We may not have as many shootings or murders as RB, but we do have our share (a lot is kept out of the news), and I would put our cops and detectives up against any in the area. I know, it takes a criminal to catch one, so in that respect, RB does have an advantage over Gardens…so many of the RB cops are criminals themselves, so they know the mindset. The fact is, you guys are jealous because an average Gardens patrolman makes double what a RB Lieutenant makes, we get the latest and best equipment (how are your laptops working out for you? And I don’t mean the one at the port with all the porn on it), we don’t work in a sewer, and our cops aren’t indicted every other week. You guys are there because no one else would hire you-just be thankful you have a job and stop blaming others for your problems. If your Sgt. was a man, he’d admit his screw-up and take his lumps. No one with half a brain believes what he says happened. Maybe he needs to stop drinking. That’d be a good start.

12-24-2009, 11:43 PM
Hey PissedoffPBG:

Any reason you guys never went 10-97 on the intial 911 call from across the street from the neighbors who said they were "awakened by somebody repeatedly pounding on their door at 3 am in the morning". Maybe you can explain why those award winning dispatchers of yours put the callers on hold ??? Maybe you guys never went 10-97 because you were too busy playing with your latest and greatest equipment. Also, any reason why the first officers on scene had to be told by RBPD to clear the house in case any suspects were still inside. That would involve putting down your Too-Jays Smoothies. I read a copy of the intial search warrant put together by the pleasently plump RG and since when do you travel North on PGA Blvd approximately 1.53 miles to the intersection of North Military Trail and Victoria Falls Blvd. Also, after going around that roundabout to Saint Lawrence Drive, you may want to make a right hand turn not a left hand turn. Does the term SOUP SANDWICH mean anything to you. Last time I checked PGA Blvd runs East and West so travelling North is impossible. Its not about how much you make or what equipment PBG or RBPD has. Its about the fact that many a experienced law enforcement office has read that PC since it was posted online and many are still scratching their heads trying to figure out where the PC lies.

12-25-2009, 01:32 AM
[quote="2COVER2"]Hey PissedoffPBG:

Any reason you guys never went 10-97 on the intial 911 call from across the street from the neighbors who said they were "awakened by somebody repeatedly pounding on their door at 3 am in the morning". Maybe you can explain why those award winning dispatchers of yours put the callers on hold ??? Maybe you guys never went 10-97 because you were too busy playing with your latest and greatest equipment. Also, any reason why the first officers on scene had to be told by RBPD to clear the house in case any suspects were still inside. That would involve putting down your Too-Jays Smoothies. I read a copy of the intial search warrant put together by the pleasently plump RG and since when do you travel North on PGA Blvd approximately 1.53 miles to the intersection of North Military Trail and Victoria Falls Blvd. Also, after going around that roundabout to Saint Lawrence Drive, you may want to make a right hand turn not a left hand turn. Does the term SOUP SANDWICH mean anything to you. Last time I checked PGA Blvd runs East and West so travelling North is impossible. Its not about how much you make or what equipment PBG or RBPD has. Its about the fact that many a experienced law enforcement office has read that PC since it was posted online and many are still scratching their heads trying to figure out where the PC lies.I WILL DRINK TO THAT.

12-25-2009, 06:43 AM
PBGPD dropped the ball on this investigation? THAT’S PRECIOUS! It was the same outstanding, professional work we always do. That’s the reason RBPD’s Sgt. has been charged-the investigators saw right through the PATHETIC story and did what they had to do. As far as RBPD’s responding before we did, that’s because your Sgt. got on his radio and screamed like the *itch that he is and we didn’t get notified until we saw RB units running up Military Trail code three. And ask your Sgt. what kind of arrest history he has with Gardens and the incident at the Gardens Alehouse that cost him $2,000.00 out of his own pocket to fix his drunken screw-up …it isn’t just this incident. The PC was written better than ANYTHING that has ever come out of your sorry excuse for a police department (and our Detective sergeant actually was on-scene and physically signed his own name on the PC). As far as the RB detective that just went back to the road-we’ve heard him putting us down-“What does Gardens know about shooting investigations…?” We may not have as many shootings or murders as RB, but we do have our share (a lot is kept out of the news), and I would put our cops and detectives up against any in the area. I know, it takes a criminal to catch one, so in that respect, RB does have an advantage over Gardens…so many of the RB cops are criminals themselves, so they know the mindset. The fact is, you guys are jealous because an average Gardens patrolman makes double what a RB Lieutenant makes, we get the latest and best equipment (how are your laptops working out for you? And I don’t mean the one at the port with all the porn on it), we don’t work in a sewer, and our cops aren’t indicted every other week. You guys are there because no one else would hire you-just be thankful you have a job and stop blaming others for your problems. If your Sgt. was a man, he’d admit his screw-up and take his lumps. No one with half a brain believes what he says happened. Maybe he needs to stop drinking. That’d be a good start.[/quote]

First off I wanted to start by saying that we at RBPD don't condone any behavior that brings a negative light to the profession. If the sgt. did what's alledged than he'll have his day in court. Second I wanted to address the issue's that you've mentioned above. Just becouse everything that happens in RB is magnified 20x any other department doesnt mean we're all bad officers. I could mention a few things about PBGPD like an Officer busted hanging with a drug dealer along with wire taps by the DEA :shock:, or the DUI SGT :shock: that got 10-15'd by the patrol, should I go on :devil: In closing, that detective you mentioned that went back to the road; come by his house in Gardens and say it to his face!

12-25-2009, 06:45 AM
PBGPD dropped the ball on this investigation? THAT’S PRECIOUS! It was the same outstanding, professional work we always do. That’s the reason RBPD’s Sgt. has been charged-the investigators saw right through the PATHETIC story and did what they had to do. As far as RBPD’s responding before we did, that’s because your Sgt. got on his radio and screamed like the *itch that he is and we didn’t get notified until we saw RB units running up Military Trail code three. And ask your Sgt. what kind of arrest history he has with Gardens and the incident at the Gardens Alehouse that cost him $2,000.00 out of his own pocket to fix his drunken screw-up …it isn’t just this incident. The PC was written better than ANYTHING that has ever come out of your sorry excuse for a police department (and our Detective sergeant actually was on-scene and physically signed his own name on the PC). As far as the RB detective that just went back to the road-we’ve heard him putting us down-“What does Gardens know about shooting investigations…?” We may not have as many shootings or murders as RB, but we do have our share (a lot is kept out of the news), and I would put our cops and detectives up against any in the area. I know, it takes a criminal to catch one, so in that respect, RB does have an advantage over Gardens…so many of the RB cops are criminals themselves, so they know the mindset. The fact is, you guys are jealous because an average Gardens patrolman makes double what a RB Lieutenant makes, we get the latest and best equipment (how are your laptops working out for you? And I don’t mean the one at the port with all the porn on it), we don’t work in a sewer, and our cops aren’t indicted every other week. You guys are there because no one else would hire you-just be thankful you have a job and stop blaming others for your problems. If your Sgt. was a man, he’d admit his screw-up and take his lumps. No one with half a brain believes what he says happened. Maybe he needs to stop drinking. That’d be a good start.[/quote]

First off I wanted to start by saying that we at RBPD don't condone any behavior that brings a negative light to the profession. If the sgt. did what's alledged than he'll have his day in court. Second I wanted to address the issue's that you've mentioned above. Just becouse everything that happens in RB is magnified 20x any other department doesnt mean we're all bad officers. I could mention a few things about PBGPD like an Officer busted hanging with a drug dealer along with wire taps by the DEA :shock:, or the DUI SGT :shock: that got 10-15'd by the patrol, should I go on :devil: In closing, that detective you mentioned that went back to the road; come by his house in Gardens and say it to his face!

Another Gardens Ofc
12-26-2009, 02:27 AM
Hey PissedoffPBG:

Any reason you guys never went 10-97 on the intial 911 call from across the street from the neighbors who said they were "awakened by somebody repeatedly pounding on their door at 3 am in the morning". Maybe you can explain why those award winning dispatchers of yours put the callers on hold ??? Maybe you guys never went 10-97 because you were too busy playing with your latest and greatest equipment. Also, any reason why the first officers on scene had to be told by RBPD to clear the house in case any suspects were still inside. That would involve putting down your Too-Jays Smoothies. I read a copy of the intial search warrant put together by the pleasently plump RG and since when do you travel North on PGA Blvd approximately 1.53 miles to the intersection of North Military Trail and Victoria Falls Blvd. Also, after going around that roundabout to Saint Lawrence Drive, you may want to make a right hand turn not a left hand turn. Does the term SOUP SANDWICH mean anything to you. Last time I checked PGA Blvd runs East and West so travelling North is impossible. Its not about how much you make or what equipment PBG or RBPD has. Its about the fact that many a experienced law enforcement office has read that PC since it was posted online and many are still scratching their heads trying to figure out where the PC lies.

We never went 10-97 across the street because we got diverted to your Sgt's mommy's house when your dispatch FINALLY called us. Our first officers on scene never had to be told anything by RBPD officers. We had to clear RBPD from contaminating (purposely?) the scene before we could do much of anything else. The reason your "many a experienced law enforcement office (not officers?) are still scratching their heads over the PC is because the Gardens guys used big words when writing the PC...next time we'll try to use smaller words so you might be able to understand them. If you'd like, one of us can explain it to you.

Another Gardens Ofc
12-26-2009, 02:42 AM
First off I wanted to start by saying that we at RBPD don't condone any behavior that brings a negative light to the profession. If the sgt. did what's alledged than he'll have his day in court. Second I wanted to address the issue's that you've mentioned above. Just becouse everything that happens in RB is magnified 20x any other department doesnt mean we're all bad officers. I could mention a few things about PBGPD like an Officer busted hanging with a drug dealer along with wire taps by the DEA :shock:, or the DUI SGT :shock: that got 10-15'd by the patrol, should I go on :devil: In closing, that detective you mentioned that went back to the road; come by his house in Gardens and say it to his face![/quote]

You can mention as many things about Gardens as you want, but the Officer that was alleged to have hung out with a drug dealer was never CHARGED with a crime. :? He was fired (and rightly so) due to his associations, and the DUI Sgt., well that was a traffic misdemeanor...you really want to compare levels of charges (and sheer numbers)? Do you really? :o The fact is you can't "go on" because that's all you got. One charge and a traffic misdemeanor at that. This all started because you guys called us "clowns" and made us out to be the bad guys because your sgt. screwed up....AGAIN. It is nice to FINALLY hear someone from RBPD say they don't condone bad behavior by cops and that your sgt. will have his day in court. That's where it should have ended-not by you guys blaming us for being FORCED to do our jobs. Or are you pissed that we didn't sweep this under the rug? Finally, I'd be happy to come by the place you live in Gardens (you live with your mommy too?)and say it to your face-if you had simply had the courtesy to say it to our faces from the beginning.

12-26-2009, 04:51 AM
First off I wanted to start by saying that we at RBPD don't condone any behavior that brings a negative light to the profession. If the sgt. did what's alledged than he'll have his day in court. Second I wanted to address the issue's that you've mentioned above. Just becouse everything that happens in RB is magnified 20x any other department doesnt mean we're all bad officers. I could mention a few things about PBGPD like an Officer busted hanging with a drug dealer along with wire taps by the DEA :shock:, or the DUI SGT :shock: that got 10-15'd by the patrol, should I go on :devil: In closing, that detective you mentioned that went back to the road; come by his house in Gardens and say it to his face!

You can mention as many things about Gardens as you want, but the Officer that was alleged to have hung out with a drug dealer was never CHARGED with a crime. :? He was fired (and rightly so) due to his associations, and the DUI Sgt., well that was a traffic misdemeanor...you really want to compare levels of charges (and sheer numbers)? Do you really? :o The fact is you can't "go on" because that's all you got. One charge and a traffic misdemeanor at that. This all started because you guys called us "clowns" and made us out to be the bad guys because your sgt. screwed up....AGAIN. It is nice to FINALLY hear someone from RBPD say they don't condone bad behavior by cops and that your sgt. will have his day in court. That's where it should have ended-not by you guys blaming us for being FORCED to do our jobs. Or are you pissed that we didn't sweep this under the rug? Finally, I'd be happy to come by the place you live in Gardens (you live with your mommy too?)and say it to your face-if you had simply had the courtesy to say it to our faces from the beginning.[/quote]



Do me a favor...if you aren't Riviera Beach Police Go to your own site...Palm Beach Gardens if you feel the need to comment start a site of your own. Personally most of us are tired of the bullshit....enough already...WE are going to defend ours and you will yours..

12-26-2009, 07:51 AM
I don’t fully agree with what some of my Gardens Family has stated. There are good cops in Riviera and everyone should get their fair day in court. Secondly, don’t talk bad about another agency if you don’t want repercussions. :oops: I didn’t see any initial posts on here from Gardens Officers about the caliber of people that work at Riviera or the type of work they do. Everyone (or agency) has it faults that can easily come to light. We all have a hard enough job and B.S. in-fighting does not solve anything. :idea: This is a public forum and not only can other agencies see this but members of the communities that we serve and protect. :idea:

:cop: Stay safe brothers and sisters in blue and may we all stay out of the media spotlight. :cop:

12-26-2009, 08:25 AM
Finally someone with some since (Post above).

12-26-2009, 01:50 PM
Finally someone with some since (Post above).

YES BUT SINCE YOU CAN'T SPELL "SENSE" MORON YOUR PROBABLY ONE OF THOSE RIVIERA BEACH IDIOTS LIKE GALLIGAN, HE CAN'T SPELL WORTH A SH** EITHER. IS THIS WHY THE POOR GIRL WHO GOT POPPED WAS REALLY SIGNING HIS OVERTIME, CAUSE HE CAN'T EVEN SPELL HIS NAME? WHO IN THE HELL MADE THAT GOOF A DETECTIVE ANYWAY? TOP?

AS FAR AS DODSON IS CONCERNED HE HAS BEEN GETTING DRUNK AND FIRING HIS GUN OFF FOR YEARS. FINALLY IT HAS BITTEN HIM IN THE ASS. HE WAS PROBABLY THE ONE BANGING HIS NEIGHBORS DOOR DOWN IN A DRUNKEN STUPOR BEFORE HE STARTED SHOOTIN? WHAT DOES SHE LOOK LIKE ANYWAY?

12-27-2009, 03:48 AM
[quote="TRUE BLUE, RBPD LEO":ay62bq4m]Finally someone with some since (Post above).[/quote:ay62bq4m]

YES BUT SINCE YOU CAN'T SPELL "SENSE" MORON YOUR PROBABLY ONE OF THOSE RIVIERA BEACH IDIOTS LIKE GALLIGAN, HE CAN'T SPELL WORTH A SH** EITHER. IS THIS WHY THE POOR GIRL WHO GOT POPPED WAS REALLY SIGNING HIS OVERTIME, CAUSE HE CAN'T EVEN SPELL HIS NAME? WHO IN THE HELL MADE THAT GOOF A DETECTIVE ANYWAY? TOP?

AS FAR AS DODSON IS CONCERNED HE HAS BEEN GETTING DRUNK AND FIRING HIS GUN OFF FOR YEARS. FINALLY IT HAS BITTEN HIM IN THE ASS. HE WAS PROBABLY THE ONE BANGING HIS NEIGHBORS DOOR DOWN IN A DRUNKEN STUPOR BEFORE HE STARTED SHOOTIN? WHAT DOES SHE LOOK LIKE ANYWAY? WHY DON"T YOU TELL DODSON AND GALLIGAN TO THEIR FACE, YOU DON"T HAVE THE BALLS YOU ARE ALL TALK ON THIS SITE. YOUR NOTHING BUT A *****.

12-27-2009, 03:58 AM
As a Law Enforcement Officer for another Florida Jurisdiction that is not related to either one of these departments, I have been following this case since October online and in the media because it is very intriguing. In reading these posts I find it interesting that PissedoffPBG in his initial response assumed that the poster was an officer from RBPD. The poster never states that they work for RBPD or that they are associated with RBPD. They could very well be a member of the public or media posting for answers. They do however pose some very good questions that were never answered by those claiming to be PBG Officers. From what I have read, the neighbors did call 911 at 3 am. That is factual and can be backed up by 911 tapes and dispatched calls for service. According to the PC Affidavit PBG Police Dispatchers received a call from RBPD at 3:24 am. If the officer involved called into his department first over his police radio then that most likely occurred several minutes prior to PBG receiving the call from RBPD. From a LE standpoint, PBGPD should have already been in the area or on the way from the initial 911 call an should have arrived almost immediately after receiving the call from RBPD. As a long time LE Officer, I find nothing wrong with that fact that the officer involved called out over his police radio to his department first. His police radio may have been more accessible than his telephone, and we often revert back to our training when faced with stressful situations.

As far as the comments about the search warrant. I used Mapquest to locate where this incident occurred. As one poster stated PGA BLVD does indeed run East/West an if the initial search warrant does state to travel North on PGA Blvd 1.53 miles to North Military Trail that could be an issue that is resolved through retraining or counseling that individual who completed the search warrant. There is a reason the legal description of the premises to be searched is required to be factual and exact. To prevent against 4th Ammendment Violations and to keep LE from hitting the wrong house when executing a search warrant. Also, it appears that when you go around that second roundabout to Victoria Falls Blvd, you would indeed make a right hand turn onto Saint Lawrence Drive not a left.

As or the PC Affidavit, I have to agree with some of the other posters. It is lacking in Probable Cause for some if not all of the charges. I have reviewed this with many of my fellow officers here, some with 25 and 30 years of experience and we all agree it is lacking in substance. And no, the words are not to big. On the cover page it lists information for Shooting within Building and then throughout under charge description it lists Shooting into Building. While both fall under 790.19, you need to decide which one is it and stay consistent throughout. I commend you for defending your Detective Sergeant, but he should know better. Where are the independent witnesses listed for the 856.011 charges. Case Law and Statutory Guidelines state the a LE Agency or the State of Florida cannot be the complainant on this charge. Independent witnesses are required.

And finally, I don't think we should chastise someone for where they work. Just because one department has more shootings or homicides than another does or does not have the ame equipment that you may have does not make them any less of a law enforcement officer or agency. We all put on the badge and out our lives on the line every day. PissesdofPBG are you going to tell a guy who woks for NYPD that you are a better cop than him because of where you work and what type of calls you respond to. Sounds like if you re keeping things out of the news that are happening in PBG then either you guys are padding the stats and not reporting everything to UCR or you guys have some serious crme problems there that you cannot admit to and don't want to scare away those visiting tourists to the golf capital of the world. Be Safe and Happy Holidays.

12-27-2009, 05:48 AM
QUESTION DID MAJOR ROBERT ARTOLA RESIGN, IS HE UNDER A CRIMINAL INVESTIGATION YES OR NO

12-27-2009, 01:38 PM
As a Law Enforcement Officer for another Florida Jurisdiction that is not related to either one of these departments, I have been following this case since October online and in the media because it is very intriguing. In reading these posts I find it interesting that PissedoffPBG in his initial response assumed that the poster was an officer from RBPD. The poster never states that they work for RBPD or that they are associated with RBPD. They could very well be a member of the public or media posting for answers. They do however pose some very good questions that were never answered by those claiming to be PBG Officers. From what I have read, the neighbors did call 911 at 3 am. That is factual and can be backed up by 911 tapes and dispatched calls for service. According to the PC Affidavit PBG Police Dispatchers received a call from RBPD at 3:24 am. If the officer involved called into his department first over his police radio then that most likely occurred several minutes prior to PBG receiving the call from RBPD. From a LE standpoint, PBGPD should have already been in the area or on the way from the initial 911 call an should have arrived almost immediately after receiving the call from RBPD. As a long time LE Officer, I find nothing wrong with that fact that the officer involved called out over his police radio to his department first. His police radio may have been more accessible than his telephone, and we often revert back to our training when faced with stressful situations.

As far as the comments about the search warrant. I used Mapquest to locate where this incident occurred. As one poster stated PGA BLVD does indeed run East/West an if the initial search warrant does state to travel North on PGA Blvd 1.53 miles to North Military Trail that could be an issue that is resolved through retraining or counseling that individual who completed the search warrant. There is a reason the legal description of the premises to be searched is required to be factual and exact. To prevent against 4th Ammendment Violations and to keep LE from hitting the wrong house when executing a search warrant. Also, it appears that when you go around that second roundabout to Victoria Falls Blvd, you would indeed make a right hand turn onto Saint Lawrence Drive not a left.

As or the PC Affidavit, I have to agree with some of the other posters. It is lacking in Probable Cause for some if not all of the charges. I have reviewed this with many of my fellow officers here, some with 25 and 30 years of experience and we all agree it is lacking in substance. And no, the words are not to big. On the cover page it lists information for Shooting within Building and then throughout under charge description it lists Shooting into Building. While both fall under 790.19, you need to decide which one is it and stay consistent throughout. I commend you for defending your Detective Sergeant, but he should know better. Where are the independent witnesses listed for the 856.011 charges. Case Law and Statutory Guidelines state the a LE Agency or the State of Florida cannot be the complainant on this charge. Independent witnesses are required.

And finally, I don't think we should chastise someone for where they work. Just because one department has more shootings or homicides than another does or does not have the ame equipment that you may have does not make them any less of a law enforcement officer or agency. We all put on the badge and out our lives on the line every day. PissesdofPBG are you going to tell a guy who woks for NYPD that you are a better cop than him because of where you work and what type of calls you respond to. Sounds like if you re keeping things out of the news that are happening in PBG then either you guys are padding the stats and not reporting everything to UCR or you guys have some serious crme problems there that you cannot admit to and don't want to scare away those visiting tourists to the golf capital of the world. Be Safe and Happy Holidays.

NICE POST DODSON!

12-27-2009, 05:23 PM
Why is everyone getting so defensive. RBPD is going to defend theirs and PBGPD is going to defend theirs. Thats the way it should be. I have yet to see anyone blaming PBGPD for doing their jobs or asking them to sweep something under the rug. All that has been asked is a few logistical questions that can or cannot be easily answered. It turned into to degrading someone because of where they work and the types of crimes they predominately deal with. I dont think anyone here would say they condone bad behavior by cops. Every department big or small has their share or problems, some minor and some are major. As for PISSEDOFFPBG, I don't work for RBPD and never have. You would actually be surprised where I work. You should look at the history of PBGPD and some of the great professional officers that have worked there. How about WT. That guy is a legend and even has a meal named after him at CR Chicks. What about the long time motor officer CS. These guys made PBGPD what it is today. As for RBPD they deal with stuff on a nightly basis that most others dont want to. They protect the streets of Riviera Beach while most of us are sleeping. Keep up the great work. The day in court will come and we will see how this all plays out. As for the last post, I seriously doubt that the RBPD SGT. posted that . I am sure he has better things to do than read about all of this on an anonymous forum.

12-28-2009, 12:35 AM
GIVE IT A BREAK GARDENS - YOUR NOTHING MORE THAN OVER PAID GLORIFIED SECURITY GUARDS - ONE STEP ABOVE THOSE AT YOUR GARDENS MALL - A BUNCH OF WUSSIES AND ALWAYS HAVE BEEN!

Another Gardens Ofc
12-29-2009, 06:47 PM
Do me a favor...if you aren't Riviera Beach Police Go to your own site...Palm Beach Gardens if you feel the need to comment start a site of your own. Personally most of us are tired of the bullshit....enough already...WE are going to defend ours and you will yours..[/quote]

Gardens doesn't need our own forum because we don't need one in which to complain about our agency. However, when we are attacked simply for being forced to do our job (which is exactly what happened), we will defend ourselves. If you don't want us on your site, then shut the hell up about us.

Another Gardens Ofc
12-29-2009, 07:20 PM
As a Law Enforcement Officer for another Florida Jurisdiction that is not related to either one of these departments, I have been following this case since October online and in the media because it is very intriguing. In reading these posts I find it interesting that PissedoffPBG in his initial response assumed that the poster was an officer from RBPD. The poster never states that they work for RBPD or that they are associated with RBPD. They could very well be a member of the public or media posting for answers. They do however pose some very good questions that were never answered by those claiming to be PBG Officers. From what I have read, the neighbors did call 911 at 3 am. That is factual and can be backed up by 911 tapes and dispatched calls for service. According to the PC Affidavit PBG Police Dispatchers received a call from RBPD at 3:24 am. If the officer involved called into his department first over his police radio then that most likely occurred several minutes prior to PBG receiving the call from RBPD. From a LE standpoint, PBGPD should have already been in the area or on the way from the initial 911 call an should have arrived almost immediately after receiving the call from RBPD. As a long time LE Officer, I find nothing wrong with that fact that the officer involved called out over his police radio to his department first. His police radio may have been more accessible than his telephone, and we often revert back to our training when faced with stressful situations.

As far as the comments about the search warrant. I used Mapquest to locate where this incident occurred. As one poster stated PGA BLVD does indeed run East/West an if the initial search warrant does state to travel North on PGA Blvd 1.53 miles to North Military Trail that could be an issue that is resolved through retraining or counseling that individual who completed the search warrant. There is a reason the legal description of the premises to be searched is required to be factual and exact. To prevent against 4th Ammendment Violations and to keep LE from hitting the wrong house when executing a search warrant. Also, it appears that when you go around that second roundabout to Victoria Falls Blvd, you would indeed make a right hand turn onto Saint Lawrence Drive not a left.

As or the PC Affidavit, I have to agree with some of the other posters. It is lacking in Probable Cause for some if not all of the charges. I have reviewed this with many of my fellow officers here, some with 25 and 30 years of experience and we all agree it is lacking in substance. And no, the words are not to big. On the cover page it lists information for Shooting within Building and then throughout under charge description it lists Shooting into Building. While both fall under 790.19, you need to decide which one is it and stay consistent throughout. I commend you for defending your Detective Sergeant, but he should know better. Where are the independent witnesses listed for the 856.011 charges. Case Law and Statutory Guidelines state the a LE Agency or the State of Florida cannot be the complainant on this charge. Independent witnesses are required.

And finally, I don't think we should chastise someone for where they work. Just because one department has more shootings or homicides than another does or does not have the ame equipment that you may have does not make them any less of a law enforcement officer or agency. We all put on the badge and out our lives on the line every day. PissesdofPBG are you going to tell a guy who woks for NYPD that you are a better cop than him because of where you work and what type of calls you respond to. Sounds like if you re keeping things out of the news that are happening in PBG then either you guys are padding the stats and not reporting everything to UCR or you guys have some serious crme problems there that you cannot admit to and don't want to scare away those visiting tourists to the golf capital of the world. Be Safe and Happy Holidays.
Gardens WAS on the way after the initial 911 call and was in the area...we diverted when we finally got the call from RBPD dispatch annd saw the RBPD units going code. I don't know why that is so hard to understand. And thanks so much for stating the obvious in reference to reverting back to our training in stressful situations (and that's why he used his police radio to call for help). However, since this was an obviously STAGED incident, he had time to pick up the phone.

And again, thanks for stating the obvious when pointing out the mistakes in the search warrant. We all know why there is a description of the house and directions are required. You wasted a lot of room in stating the obvious. It was a mistake. I'm SURE there aren't any mistakes in Riviera search warrants, right? But then again, how can mistakes be made when the C.I. is standing in the detective burerau and is handed the I.F. and told to go buy from a house, and just return with the dope with no one watching the C.I. as is required by law. I know for a FACT that was standard procedure around RB for a while.

The substance of the PC will just have to be a matter of disagreement. Please don't think for one second that ANYONE believes you are not a RB officer. You can claim all you want that officers with 30, 60 even 100 years' experience looked at the PC and agree that it is lacking, but there are just as many who will say it works.

And finally, again, you completely missed the point. We never claimed that WE keep things out of the news, but of course, that would've conflicted with you wanting to throw the whole "padding statistics" thing at us. The point was that since Gardens is a nice place, when violent crime happens, it goes under reported by the media because the emphasis is on West Palm, PBSO, and RB. And where did NYPD fit into the conversation? We brought up the equipment thing as part of the larger point that the attacks on us by you guys at Riviera are because of jealousy.

Another Gardens Ofc
12-29-2009, 07:44 PM
Why is everyone getting so defensive. RBPD is going to defend theirs and PBGPD is going to defend theirs. Thats the way it should be. I have yet to see anyone blaming PBGPD for doing their jobs or asking them to sweep something under the rug. All that has been asked is a few logistical questions that can or cannot be easily answered. It turned into to degrading someone because of where they work and the types of crimes they predominately deal with. I dont think anyone here would say they condone bad behavior by cops. Every department big or small has their share or problems, some minor and some are major. As for PISSEDOFFPBG, I don't work for RBPD and never have. You would actually be surprised where I work. You should look at the history of PBGPD and some of the great professional officers that have worked there. How about WT. That guy is a legend and even has a meal named after him at CR Chicks. What about the long time motor officer CS. These guys made PBGPD what it is today. As for RBPD they deal with stuff on a nightly basis that most others dont want to. They protect the streets of Riviera Beach while most of us are sleeping. Keep up the great work. The day in court will come and we will see how this all plays out. As for the last post, I seriously doubt that the RBPD SGT. posted that . I am sure he has better things to do than read about all of this on an anonymous forum.

You don't see anyone blaming PBG for doing their jobs????? Try one of the first few posts where we are referred to as "clowns" and the integrity and intelligence of our officers are called into question!!!!! And the Sweeping things under the rug was simply a question posed-not a quote or a accusation.

And what's wrong with an officer having a meal named after him by a local restaurant? It is not out of the ordinary-just look at the former RB Lt who has sexual favors performed by prostitutes named after him due to his "activities" with them. So, you see, just like your guy, our guy was simply a good customer of a local business! :)

And what about the longtime motor officer from PBG? That kind of dropped off...did you actually have a point? And we know that you guys in RB deal with stuff others don't want to-because you guys are not competent enough to clean the place up and because you are stuck in that sewer because no real agency in their right minds would hire you.

I do agree with your point however that the RB sgt. has better things to do instead of reading this forum ALL about him... like plan another pathetic stunt in a sad effort to win his wife's sympathy and then have you gullible RB guys defend the indefensible.

Another Gardens Ofc
12-29-2009, 07:52 PM
GIVE IT A BREAK GARDENS - YOUR NOTHING MORE THAN OVER PAID GLORIFIED SECURITY GUARDS - ONE STEP ABOVE THOSE AT YOUR GARDENS MALL - A BUNCH OF WUSSIES AND ALWAYS HAVE BEEN!

Wow...how original! Of course, nothing to back it up. And of course, it's exactly what is expected of you guys in RB....I do have to say though, the above quote is better than any of the police work you do. We don't have time to patrol PGA National because we're all too busy cleaning up the messes started by drunken RB officers. And for future reference, it should be "you're" nothing but a bunch of"....but again, we don't expect any better from the likes of you.

Another Gardens Ofc
12-29-2009, 08:01 PM
I've got to say...this is all becoming quite boring and unless you hacks in RB can come up with anything worth discussing instead of rank amateur comments, my work, (however fun) involving pointing out your idiocy is done-for now.

12-29-2009, 09:37 PM
Gardens Boy, go get a real police job some day and then you will know the difference between answering dog barking complaints and real street crime. Your even a step below the PBSO in that area. Overpaid security guards thats all you have ever been and will ever be. The Riviera guys who cant hack doing real police work at a busy pace all end up over at your PD. You know them all, I could give you a list but you and they know who they are.
Enough of this non sense now go check the Gardens Mall probably some riviera criminals getting ready to steal a car or some thing. Then go check on Ballen Isles hear thats a busy housing district LOL! Wimps!
Thank god you have Riviera cops who live in your city like dodson and galligan makes for some excitement anyway. somebody has to start some trouble. what about that A**Hole major of yours that was supposedly running criminal checks unauthorized Artola is that it. you sure kept that quiet and oh yeah you have a couple drunken sgt's too dont you that got fired this year? Whats up?
your welcome to do a ride along with us and see what a real cop feels like just let us know and also bring a diaper, i dont want any stain on my passenger seat.

12-30-2009, 02:05 AM
Gardens Officers please create your own site and get off ours. From what I hear, you guys do enough complaining without having a site. :shock:

Major Artola is under investigation , but nobody does anything wrong at PBGPD do they? :devil:

In closing we all have problems, but RBPD is the place everyone loves to hate and you guys are perfect aren't you. :roll:

RBPD Officers, don't listen to these idiots. Anyone could be posting including the media. Lets stick together and we'll get through this in time. Be safe fellow RBPD guys and girls. We only have each other!

12-30-2009, 09:30 AM
Gardens Boy, go get a real police job some day and then you will know the difference between answering dog barking complaints and real street crime. Your even a step below the PBSO in that area. Overpaid security guards thats all you have ever been and will ever be. The Riviera guys who cant hack doing real police work at a busy pace all end up over at your PD. You know them all, I could give you a list but you and they know who they are.
Enough of this non sense now go check the Gardens Mall probably some riviera criminals getting ready to steal a car or some thing. Then go check on Ballen Isles hear thats a busy housing district LOL! Wimps!
Thank god you have Riviera cops who live in your city like dodson and galligan makes for some excitement anyway. somebody has to start some trouble. what about that A**Hole major of yours that was supposedly running criminal checks unauthorized Artola is that it. you sure kept that quiet and oh yeah you have a couple drunken sgt's too dont you that got fired this year? Whats up?
your welcome to do a ride along with us and see what a real cop feels like just let us know and also bring a diaper, i dont want any stain on my passenger seat.

I guess it’s something to be proud of that your residents are victims of street crimes and that you are on top of the situation. Oh how’s 100’s wife doing? I heard she had a gun stuck in her face and her purse stolen from her in her own drive way in Riviera Beach –the best city to work, play, get robbed, shot or your car stolen. :devil: You apprehended those three subjects right? Glad you guys are on top of the street crime issue (sure she is too). And thank you for pointing out that we should thank God for having Riviera cops that live in our city. Yeah were so lucky because it allows us to waist hours on fictitious B.S. they create. This really breaks the boredom from patrolling PGA National or Ballen Isles maybe even the mall if we get a moment from all the other patrolling we do. Thanks again! :snicker: Did I fail to mention our residents actually appreciate us and that we don’t have to plead and beg to get anything we need from the City Council. Have you seen a full five finger wave recently from any of your citizens? It may shock you….

As for Major Artola, yup he resigned. No secret there. Is there some controversy over why he resigned? Yes. Was he allegedly running background checks on people? Don’t know. ID 001 has not released any information (but you’re welcome to do a public records request). There was only one Sgt. (C.S.) that was fired over a DUI issue. There was never two. First C.S. was demoted and then fired. HE ALSO PLED GUILTY - Might be a good example to follow. Oh since you’re looking for more dirt on Gardens here’s one no one else will tell you….. You ready??? There’s an old ham sandwich in the downstairs break room fridge that’s getting old and moldy. Boom! Now you know everything.

Oh, I won’t be doing a ride along with you because that stain on your seat is not from a Gardens officer.. It’s probably from one of those “Special C.I.’s” you had “riding” in your front seat. I think her name was Maggy or Skaggy? Keep doing a bang up job there. We’ll keep holding the line on Northlake so the criminals stay in your crime controlled area.

12-30-2009, 09:43 AM
Gardens Officers please create your own site and get off ours. From what I hear, you guys do enough complaining without having a site. :shock:

Major Artola is under investigation , but nobody does anything wrong at PBGPD do they? :devil:

In closing we all have problems, but RBPD is the place everyone loves to hate and you guys are perfect aren't you. :roll:

RBPD Officers, don't listen to these idiots. Anyone could be posting including the media. Lets stick together and we'll get through this in time. Be safe fellow RBPD guys and girls. We only have each other!

We have reached a new level. Just stop posting and it will be done. We didn’t start this sh*t. Keeping bashing us and what do you expect us to do? You claim everyone loves to hate you ever wonder why? Look at the postings on this website by your own people for once. You bring it on yourself. Gardens has issues but we don’t air it out for the entire world to see on a web page.

Sherlock
12-31-2009, 02:32 AM
Firstly, let me admit that it was myself, Det. B.B. (name omitted to prevent being search engine indexed on this), that made the errors in typing the directions on the affidavit for the Search Warrant, and not Det. Sgt. R.G. I don’t think that anyone has the right to be on here judging anyone else or pointing out others’ faults; but, it was my mistake, and unlike others that are involved in these posts, I am willing to own up to my mistakes.

I inadvertently, after being awakened shortly after 3 a.m. and on limited sleep, typed “Travel north ON P.G.A. Boulevard…” rather than “Travel north FROM P.G.A. Boulevard…” Any reasonable person reading those directions, as you easily detected, could ascertain that it was an error and make the determination that the actual course of travel would have been northbound on Military Trail. As far as the description of the turn from the roundabout…it’s not every day that you describe directions around a roundabout. So, when trying to determine the correct direction to describe, I evaluated that, absent the roundabout’s presence, from that ‘intersection’ it would normally be a left hand turn to travel from Victoria Falls Boulevard onto St. Lawrence Drive. I suppose a more accurate description would have been simply to have stated to take the second exit from the roundabout onto St. Lawrence Drive, which would have become readily apparent to anyone attempting to drive to the location via using my directions, since the first (right hand) turn/exit, is again onto a continuation of Victoria Falls Boulevard.

In any case, neither of those unintentional misstatements alters the factual description of the premises to be searched and therefore do not render the affidavit and warrant fatally defective. The address listed in the affidavit and on the warrant was correct. Furthermore, I, as the affiant for the warrant, personally knew where the residence was since I had responded there just prior to writing the affidavit. In that respect, the description of the place contained in the warrant would, by its terms, lead me, as a searching officer, to the correct location. So, since the warrant was facially accurate about the description and location of the residence to be searched, any ambiguity is negated by considering that I, as one of the present and executing officers, was the affiant and personally knew where the place to be searched was located.

Secondly, and more importantly, this back and forth negative attack on each of our respective agencies is proving nothing and only serves to deteriorate ALL of our reputations to any of the general public who might come across this. We may wear different patches on our sleeves, but we all still wear blue (or green). Each of our agencies has their individual merits, and all of us should be respected for the service we provide and the personal sacrifices we make to work in our chosen profession. We need to stand by one another, set aside our petty differences, and support each other in facing the odds against us daily in the streets, in the courtrooms, in the press, and, often, the general public.

There are issues here that need to be resolved; however, they are not going to be resolved on this forum, and the repeated slandering of brother and sister officers is not going further that cause. I can assure you that this case, as it is being presented, is in no way an attempt by PBG to intentionally denigrate those involved, nor anyone at the RBPD. It is unfortunate that we have been put in this position of having to pursue this matter at all. The truth will prevail, and the system will be responsible for deciding what that truth is or is not. Let’s leave it to that.

Stay Safe!

12-31-2009, 03:28 AM
WE ARE ALL A BIG FAMILY. WE ALL SEEM TO LOSE SIGHT OF THAT. EGOS AND PERSONAL PROBLEMS NEED TO BE SET IN THE PAST. LET'S DO OUR JOBS AND KEEP PUSHING AGAINST THE CRIMINALS IN WHATEVER CITY WE ARE IN. WE HAVE TO WORRY ABOUT THEM, LETS NOT GIVE OUR BROTHERS AND SISTERS A REASON TO WORRY ABOUT WHOS 10-94ING THEM,

EVERYONE MAKES MISTAKES, LETS JUST HOPE THAT THEY LEARN FROM THEM OR GET HELP FOR THEM.

STAY SAFE EVERYONE, PLEASE

03-23-2010, 08:41 PM
i used to work for riviera beach, well used to work is an understatement, i was fired. lets face it though palm beach gardens is a 10-8 agency, they're accredited for one. i dont think riviera beach would ever be accredited they're too corrupt and do shady stuff. i saw first hand how corrupt that department is so people from riviera beach come on here and bad mouth palm beach gardens, please you guys wish you could work for that department.

palm beach gardens department = 10-8
riviera beach police department = 10-30, always against the rules.

well i spoke my peace so peace!!!

05-15-2010, 02:13 AM
Yall stop this madness!!! Right now

10-23-2010, 02:23 AM
Hey Fields, did someone run over your toe for you to make that statement. Quit bragging about Gardens, because they sure as hell won't hire your dumb ass!

02-06-2011, 08:15 PM
http://alt.coxnewsweb.com/palmbeachpost/news/PublicIntegrityInvestigationInformation&PCs.pdf