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11-13-2009, 12:12 PM
I don't mean to sound disrespectful to our School crossing guards ,but to have to our Police Officers doing that is a waste of our resources. The city seems already short on Officers ,then to see them out there being guards ,when they need to do there own job , Is a shame So if you need an Officer you might have to wait till they can get off their post.

11-13-2009, 12:37 PM
So I guess you'd just rather see a group of children ran over by a semi truck and you'd rather see their blood and organs strewn all over Park Boulevard than have to wait 30 minutes for an officer to come to your house to investigate who stole your ceramic gnome out of your garden?!

Stick to gardening and ironing your husband's clothes and leave law enforcement to the professionals.

11-13-2009, 10:39 PM
OH MY God Someone stole my Gnome !!!!!!! Wheres an Officer when you need one.Oh I know, never mind.

11-15-2009, 07:47 AM
Relax.... they just interviewed a slew of them.....

It is temporary.... Of course, the sky is falling..

11-15-2009, 12:10 PM
Is it true that one of our comm center people resigned so that she could be a crossing guard? Bye-Bye poison

11-15-2009, 02:02 PM
do the officers go through a crossing guard training course? Could public works, code enforcement, or parks/rec persons be cross trained to handle these duties when the posts are short? When i see 15 sewer guys standing around a hole, while 1 guys holds a shovel, it seems they may have time on their hands. When I notice Code having 5 supervisors for 6 workers, I think they may have time on their hands. When I see the condition of of city properties, I know parks and rec got time on their hands.

11-16-2009, 03:04 AM
Is it true that one of our comm center people resigned so that she could be a crossing guard? Bye-Bye poison


Is Robin looking for a new job?????

11-16-2009, 03:13 AM
The last time I checked, they taught traffic control and direction in the academy, but maybe we should put together a special class for our officers who feel like our crossing guards are better trained than we are....

As for the rest of the statement.... I guess since crossing guards work for the PD, it kinda makes sense that we handle the responsibility.... What exactly does code enforcement, parks and rec, or any other city employee have to do with traffic safety related to children... Of course, you probably know better....

Lets face it.... it sucks.... No one likes doing it, but frankly suck it up... It's temporary....

One more thing....

The sky is falling....

11-16-2009, 11:43 AM
I am not an Officer ,just a citizen who noticed this and felt it needed to be said. I see I am not the only one who feels this way.

ItOnlySmokesALittle
11-17-2009, 09:37 AM
I see the police officer directing traffic at the first 4 way stop in my neighborhood. I dont see what the big deal is. Why is it considered a waste of time to help children navigate safely to the bus? The Police Officers who are doing this are doing a job just as important as any other job on the road. I also notice the police officer further towards the front of my neighborhood is up and walking around keeping his head on a swivel, while the old guy who is a crossing guard down the road, just sits in his chair while the children walk to him. Keep doing a good job PPPD, us "citizens" do notice you guys out there working hard.

11-18-2009, 10:00 PM
I want Park and 49 so I can sit down in the Donut Shop and have a cup of coffee with my Sgt

11-18-2009, 11:20 PM
:cry:

11-19-2009, 01:14 AM
Guess the kids will now have to carry a doughnut along with the apple for the teacher.

11-20-2009, 05:53 AM
Why is it government's job to escort children to school? Shouldn't the parents be doing that? Should the Fire Dept start up an afterschool program for working parents?

It's a retarded job that serves no purpose. There are only a few kids walking without parents and the there are crosswalks and four way stops. The use of a "guard or cop" is a redundant waste of tax money.This is just another responsiblity that police agencies agreed to take on sometime in the past.

That money should be returned to the taxpayers, parents walk your own damn children.

PS: There is a special training course and no it is not taught in the academy. The first screw up I have and I'm falling back on the "I wasn't properly trained" defense.

11-21-2009, 04:15 PM
Yes, there is a course, however, sworn officers are not required to take it, why.... because you have already had a mandatory course in the academy on traffic control and direction. It was longer and more detailed than the school crossing guard class. But you are right, they may not have told you exactly step by step what to do to avoid getting little Billy Bob smashed by the car. But if you feel you are not an intelligent enough police officer to figure it out based on the training that your already have, then my fear is that you are likely not mature or intelligent enough to work with us on the street. So, the equation here is....if you feel you need more training to safely cross Billy Bob across the road = please turn in your gun because you likely need more training with it too.

As for its not the governments job. Last time I checked, we work for a public safety agency. Someone above us has said that the PD is going to take on this public safety task. Forgive me for not taking your leap that its not our responsibility. Our responsibility is to obey lawful orders. Crossing guard duty is not against the law, therefore our requirement is to do what our Chief tells us. She has told us to go cross little Billy Bob. So we cross the little guy. We hopefully can figure out how to do it safely. I mean sure, making sure all the cars are stopped before crossing him is tough work, but I think we are up for the challenge.

Rather than this being a lack of a training issue, it is more likely what we have here is a I don't like this aspect of my job so I am going to go onto a public forum and complain about it issue. I don't like crossing guard duty either, but as a professional, I accept the good with the bad and do it to the best of my ability. Try it sometime.

11-22-2009, 10:20 AM
Thanks, Sgt for the moral boost. Why don't the supervisors get out of the PD or group lunch and they can handle the crossing posts. Free up the officers to do what they are trained for = being cops. I can't say I ever saw a Cpl, Sgt, or Lt standing tall at one of these posts, are you guys too good for that? Seems we ofcs get assigned to these posts while our calls pile up and no supervisor is offering to take the calls for service either. Explore all the available options before you leap. I know Sgt, I suck, I need to turn my stuff in, I'm a coward, a sub-standard ofc, I'm a malcontent, blah-blah. Save it, I know if you have an opinion other than what the PD has always done, then you are a lazy, miserable, no-good officer.

11-22-2009, 02:49 PM
First off, your description of yourself were your words not mine, but I will agree with nearly everything you just said. However, I don't want you to quit your job, I simply wish you would stop complaining and just do your job.

Second, one does not have to be a supervisor to be professional in this place. If our bosses give us an order, we do it, unless its illegal. It's called "doing our job." Unfortuantely for all of us, we have to do what those above us say. For now, it includes crossing Billy Bob which sucks I know. I mean, the nerve of the Chief, asking us to protect kids crossing the street. It's as if they think we swore an oath to protect and serve or something.

As for the Cpl's, Sgt's, and Lt's... I spend about as much time worrying about what they do during the day as I worry about what you do. I simply come to work, do my job the best I can, (no matter what it is) and go home happy to have a job that I enjoy coming to everyday. Does the rank do everything I think they should during the day, nope, but they certainly don't anger me like they anger you.

I agree, there are things that can be improved here at the PD. However, expecting other non-public safety divisions of the city to handle public safety assignments is not an improvement. It is simply a way for a police officer to get out of doing a job he doesn't want to do. A professional officer just sucks it up and does the assignment with no complaints. Everyone knows a crappy assignment when it comes, only a few seriously throw temper tantrums when they get one. We all know who they are, thankfully, we can list them on one hand. Which one are you. Well, I think your last couple of posts have made it clear.

11-23-2009, 05:21 AM
This whole place has lost touch with our job. We have supervisors like TS and other ones that are mightier than thou, yet the adm condones this as C2 is just as bad. Others up there have their good days at times. Is this a police department our a power struggle?

Anyone person who comes in and does their job is not considered a good cop, if you’re a suck a** then they love you and reward you. This place needs to get a grip!

How about we all come in and do our jobs and remember were we ALL started, as officers on the road. With this thought it just might get better around here. The days of saying "Why, because I can!" need to stop.

11-23-2009, 01:30 PM
hey "little billy bob" sgt, i know you may have been a cop at one time, but remember lots of people come on here and post as "guest". that being said i think there has been several different posters who have issues with the way the crossing guard thing is going. I guess you think all the posts are from one person, which is comical and sad. everyone knows you are not an ofc, so please stop acting like one of us and try fixing the problems.

11-23-2009, 03:56 PM
I can't sometimes believe what I am reading. Who are these people that are so bitter here in the workplace? Well, it's not just here, look at the PCSO page and they are bashing fellow officers & supervisors also. I just sometimes wonder, is this just one poison apple, is it a couple of people, are the gripers on day shift as that is most of the school crossing? I just don't understand, no matter what to put someone's ID number or initials is so unfair, I just try to imagime who is typing that nonsense. It's alright to complain & vent, but why be hurtful & type a name or ID number, could this be an officer see in the hallway, that I x56 with? I'm just so curious as to why he or she would put another person's ID number or initials and not their own. There is just no honor in that type of person at all, it's just wrong.

11-24-2009, 02:11 AM
I am so sorry I even said anything reading these last postings, This has snowballed into something else that seems personal and ugly . Please stop.

11-26-2009, 05:43 PM
I am so sorry I even said anything reading these last postings, This has snowballed into something else that seems personal and ugly . Please stop.

Don’t feel bad, nothing you did started this. It seems every topic lately turns into this discussion in some form or another.

11-27-2009, 01:10 PM
All of the other LEO boards, 98% are bashing everyone, Does LEO affairs promote brotherhood or bashing?, Read the other agency posts and you will know what I mean.