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MOD 486
08-25-2008, 09:39 PM
Ok lets see how long before this topic goes south.

If you could change one thing to make our agency a better place to work what would it be?

Please stay focused and professional. You all complain about what is happening well tell us how to fix it.

MOD 486

08-26-2008, 12:47 AM
Accountability for the rank of Sgt and up! Change this one thing and it changes most all major working conditions, at least for uniformed. Too many decisions are made which negatively affect uniformed. Of course more problems which need change are present but I feel this is a major issue. How to fix it, a new chain of command. This is the only way to professionally state it.

08-26-2008, 02:12 AM
A new chain of command, can you say how?.

08-26-2008, 02:30 AM
The only way I see it begin changed is with new leader ship in the commisioners office. We all know the current regime all stem from that office. I beleive a new commisioner would foucus on the decisions begin made now. Playing games with funds meant for the working class and promoting outside buddies must end. Demolishing officer positions to enable a promotion is just wrong. We continue to work short handed daily for that reason. Our numbers continue to dwindle. Boost moral with more hires to enable a better work product which would also keep some of the trash down to a minimum.

08-26-2008, 05:09 PM
1. There needs to be some sort of leadership/supervision development class when a person is promoted to each rank. They have these in the military and it teaches a person to supervise and look out for those that they are in charge of. This tends to give a supervisor a sense of responsibility for those they supervise, which in turn causes them to look out for them.

2. Some sort of a promotion system all the way to the top, not just Sgt. This way "they" cannot put in whom "they" want. Also no hiring from outside to fill positions of supervision. There is no reason to have to hire from outside, whatever that outside person was hired to do they learned how to do it, just as someone already in the department can learn to do it and better adapt it to our department because they know what we do, how we do it, and why.

3. Beter use of the chain of command by those at the top to pass down information that may help those at the bottom to better understand what is going on and why. There is nothing that goes on in this department that is top secret so quit treating us like it is.

4.Quit cutting officer positions to create new positions for brass. If those in Tally had ever done this job they would never cut officer positions to create brass positions, they would know how hard this job can be at times and would want us to do it correctly and safely with the proper man power needed. We literally cannot do our job properly do to not having enough man power. Traffic on I-75 has tripled or more since I started yet the number of officers to do the job has been cut more than in half.

5. No cross promotion between uniform and investigations. If you leave uniform to become part of investigations and decide you want to come back to uniform you should have to come back as an officer and climb again, and vice-versa.

6. If there are things going on that hurt morale then officers need to start speaking up instead of allowing it to go on, turning a blind eye solves nothing it's still going on. Officers need to ask questions of those in charge of them. Like why, who said, is there a memo on that, where is that in policy.

08-27-2008, 02:54 AM
Hows about we have the brass spend a day with us. They say they do not know what we do and this would be a good chance for them to experience it firsthand. And then what about the helpers? If they were here then they might understand it a little bit better and stop throwing us under the bus when they realize the limits we have here on the ramps.

Stop kicking the lts and sgt in the teeth with deadlines set in the vacum of tallahasee. Stop the micromanegement of field people by thouse who have never done the job. Wonder why no one stays ask the troops why they do.

08-27-2008, 07:55 PM
Good idea, our chief leaves all of the management to Fanning because he dont know anything and now hes gone. We never see the lT.colonel and he just rubber stamps what the tally chief wants. The lady in Fanning got screwed by the chief and the brass above him didnt do anything to him.

08-27-2008, 10:57 PM
why are you clowns so worried about the lady in fanning??? who cares??? worry about yourselves and how you can make your agency a better place to work.

08-28-2008, 12:57 AM
Hey we know how the major up there treated Avie, so imagine how he feels about the troops, better not get on his bad side he is mean. If you dont kiss his butt and tell him that he is great you are out. Somebody needs to tell the brass how he really is are you listening Colonel

08-28-2008, 11:54 AM
Major J.B. is the reason we have to deal with some of the stupid decisions made out here. He believes anything anybody tells him and doesnt care what you say if you try to disagree with him. The Captain is scared of him and so is the other supervisors. he changes his mind if somebody tells him something bad or good about people. The captain is trying to do his job but has no support from Bryan or Tally.

08-28-2008, 02:23 PM
Theres a few sayings>>>>>>>

Every dog has his day.... And it ain't always a good one>>>>>>

WHAT GOES AROUND... COMES AROUND......

JB and the rest of the players will have thier days (they may be having them already - but they just don't realize it)!!!!!

It will catch up to them
Look what happened to the Colonel
It may not even be work related
but you can rest assure that they will pay for any wrong doings they have done one way or another.

I'm just going to sit back and watch!!!!!

08-29-2008, 10:27 PM
You cannot believe anything out of major JBs mouth, he lies and then tries to make jokes about it. I hope TR is listening, he will BS his way through everything and blame everybody else. Watch out Tim, you are a better man than him but you better watch your back with your chief.

08-30-2008, 03:22 AM
Accountability for the rank of Sgt and up! Change this one thing and it changes most all major working conditions, at least for uniformed. Too many decisions are made which negatively affect uniformed. Of course more problems which need change are present but I feel this is a major issue. How to fix it, a new chain of command. This is the only way to professionally state it.

and it all falls back to the above. Accounability!!!!!!!!!

08-31-2008, 05:47 PM
It is ALWAYS about accountability, and you must start with yourself. Some of our brass could take heed, but so do our officers on up. We are all responsible for our own behavior.

09-04-2008, 02:08 AM
If I could improve things...
1. Feedback from the field would be heard and reviewed. Instead of decisions coming down from Tally, input should be coming from the field. How can we make things better? What are our priorities? What equipment is needed to do the jobs. How are supervisors doing and how do their people feel about them?
2. Occasional job swap. Send Tally folk out to the ramp to see what life is like. Send ramp folks to Tally for a day to shadow command staff to see what they really do all day.
3. Teach people the meaning of constructive criticism. Its fine to say what is wrong with an agency but rather than *****ing, come up with solutions!
4. Promote based on ability rather than seniority or the buddy system. Lets promote the people who have the skills and ability to lead us into the future rather than the ones who have been here for all of history.

09-05-2008, 03:31 AM
It is ALWAYS about accountability, and you must start with yourself. Some of our brass could take heed, but so do our officers on up. We are all responsible for our own behavior.

And sgts on up really need to look up accountability, responsibility and behavior!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

09-05-2008, 10:56 PM
If the Sgt's looked up all they would see would be the top of the desk (from the underside)

09-07-2008, 03:49 AM
If the Sgt's looked up all they would see would be the top of the desk (from the underside)

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09-08-2008, 09:21 AM
Hey Mike you liked that one ????

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