Happy at last

I love the PBA, see you later FOP :lol:

I am sure you will continue to influence others with your twisted ways of thinking and false sense of greatness.

It is best to move forward to improve your life instead of wasting your efforts trying to undo the past.

"Upon the conduct of each depends the fate of all"

"Upon the conduct of each depends the fate of all"

To Alexander the Great: How about this quote of Alexander's? Are you familiar with it?

I am not afraid of an army of lions led by a sheep; I am afraid of an army of sheep led by a lion.

Unfortunately, at LWPD you are the former. I would like to see what an army of lions led by a lion could accomplish in that department.

I am not afraid of an army of lions led by a sheep; I am afraid of an army of sheep led by a lion.

That quote came from Philip of Macedonia, Alexander the Great's father. In his book, "You Don't Need a TITLE to be a Leader", Mark Sanborn answers your final query -

"An army of lions led by a lion is to be feared most of all, for it is unstoppable."

Such inquisitive minds we have here on this thread. It's nice to know we still have some bright officers in there. Leadership doesn't need a title. There are a few true leaders in LWPD. I could name a few. They are uniters. You don't see them complain. They protest in silent when in disagreement which makes the others and the ranks think. They see that it is essential to work together to come towards a common solution. They inspire their co-workers and always see an achievement done as a team. Now even writing this, you'll still have a cynic critize this post. We can conclude bickering and fighting got the department nowhere. How about we try working together now? Could we at least give it a shot?

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Such inquisitive minds we have here on this thread. It's nice to know we still have some bright officers in there. Leadership doesn't need a title. There are a few true leaders in LWPD. I could name a few. They are uniters. You don't see them complain. They protest in silent when in disagreement which makes the others and the ranks think. They see that it is essential to work together to come towards a common solution. They inspire their co-workers and always see an achievement done as a team. Now even writing this, you'll still have a cynic critize this post. We can conclude bickering and fighting got the department nowhere. How about we try working together now? Could we at least give it a shot?

Well said , however some have titles and they aren't good one's . The good leader's know who they are and need no intro. They are not the one's that talk behind one's back and think that the department couldn't run without them. these are the guy's that everyone look's up to and the other's are the one's that we all laugh at.

It's funny that now the D/C is retiring one Lt is so afarid that KW is the next D/C he does nothing but talk behind his back as if that will make a difference , stop bad mouthing other's and accept that KW is the best one for the job he will move the department in the right direction without using his position to go after other's so just grow up.

Such inquisitive minds we have here on this thread. It's nice to know we still have some bright officers in there. Leadership doesn't need a title. There are a few true leaders in LWPD. I could name a few. They are uniters. You don't see them complain. They protest in silent when in disagreement which makes the others and the ranks think. They see that it is essential to work together to come towards a common solution. They inspire their co-workers and always see an achievement done as a team. Now even writing this, you'll still have a cynic critize this post. We can conclude bickering and fighting got the department nowhere. How about we try working together now? Could we at least give it a shot?

Well said , however some have titles and they aren't good one's . The good leader's know who they are and need no intro. They are not the one's that talk behind one's back and think that the department couldn't run without them. these are the guy's that everyone look's up to and the other's are the one's that we all laugh at.

It's funny that now the D/C is retiring one Lt is so afarid that KW is the next D/C he does nothing but talk behind his back as if that will make a difference , stop bad mouthing other's and accept that KW is the best one for the job he will move the department in the right direction without using his position to go after other's so just grow up.

THE THING WE NEED MOST IS FOR 100 TO START TO CARE AGAIN, LIKE HE DID A FEW YEARS AGO BEFORE HE LET THE 6 OR 7 BAD APPLES GET TO HIM. IF 100 DOES NOT CHANGE THEN NOTHING WILL CHANGE AT ALL.
100, GET WITH YOUR LT'S AND GET SOME IDEAS FROM THEM ON WHAT CAN BE DONE TO CHANGE THINGS AROUND THERE SO THE TROOPS WILL WANT TO WORK HARD FOR YOU AGAIN LIKE THEY DID IN THE PAST.

[quote=Anonymous]Such inquisitive minds we have here on this thread. It's nice to know we still have some bright officers in there. Leadership doesn't need a title. There are a few true leaders in LWPD. I could name a few. They are uniters. You don't see them complain. They protest in silent when in disagreement which makes the others and the ranks think. They see that it is essential to work together to come towards a common solution. They inspire their co-workers and always see an achievement done as a team. Now even writing this, you'll still have a cynic critize this post. We can conclude bickering and fighting got the department nowhere. How about we try working together now? Could we at least give it a shot?

Well said , however some have titles and they aren't good one's . The good leader's know who they are and need no intro. They are not the one's that talk behind one's back and think that the department couldn't run without them. these are the guy's that everyone look's up to and the other's are the one's that we all laugh at.

It's funny that now the D/C is retiring one Lt is so afarid that KW is the next D/C he does nothing but talk behind his back as if that will make a difference , stop bad mouthing other's and accept that KW is the best one for the job he will move the department in the right direction without using his position to go after other's so just grow up.

THE THING WE NEED MOST IS FOR 100 TO START TO CARE AGAIN, LIKE HE DID A FEW YEARS AGO BEFORE HE LET THE 6 OR 7 BAD APPLES GET TO HIM. IF 100 DOES NOT CHANGE THEN NOTHING WILL CHANGE AT ALL.
100, GET WITH YOUR LT'S AND GET SOME IDEAS FROM THEM ON WHAT CAN BE DONE TO CHANGE THINGS AROUND THERE SO THE TROOPS WILL WANT TO WORK HARD FOR YOU AGAIN LIKE THEY DID IN THE PAST.[/quote:1nj1sdiu]

No 100 lost all repect in the department when he allowed KP come betewnn him and his troops, he allowed her to control him and the department.

[quote="good old me":31rml7zw][quote=Anonymous]Such inquisitive minds we have here on this thread. It's nice to know we still have some bright officers in there. Leadership doesn't need a title. There are a few true leaders in LWPD. I could name a few. They are uniters. You don't see them complain. They protest in silent when in disagreement which makes the others and the ranks think. They see that it is essential to work together to come towards a common solution. They inspire their co-workers and always see an achievement done as a team. Now even writing this, you'll still have a cynic critize this post. We can conclude bickering and fighting got the department nowhere. How about we try working together now? Could we at least give it a shot?

Well said , however some have titles and they aren't good one's . The good leader's know who they are and need no intro. They are not the one's that talk behind one's back and think that the department couldn't run without them. these are the guy's that everyone look's up to and the other's are the one's that we all laugh at.

It's funny that now the D/C is retiring one Lt is so afarid that KW is the next D/C he does nothing but talk behind his back as if that will make a difference , stop bad mouthing other's and accept that KW is the best one for the job he will move the department in the right direction without using his position to go after other's so just grow up.

THE THING WE NEED MOST IS FOR 100 TO START TO CARE AGAIN, LIKE HE DID A FEW YEARS AGO BEFORE HE LET THE 6 OR 7 BAD APPLES GET TO HIM. IF 100 DOES NOT CHANGE THEN NOTHING WILL CHANGE AT ALL.
100, GET WITH YOUR LT'S AND GET SOME IDEAS FROM THEM ON WHAT CAN BE DONE TO CHANGE THINGS AROUND THERE SO THE TROOPS WILL WANT TO WORK HARD FOR YOU AGAIN LIKE THEY DID IN THE PAST.[/quote:31rml7zw]

No 100 lost all repect in the department when he allowed KP come betewnn him and his troops, he allowed her to control him and the department.[/quote:31rml7zw]


SHE DIDN'T CONTROL THE COPS.

[quote="GUEST 1111":3cp8tkj7][quote="good old me":3cp8tkj7][quote=Anonymous]Such inquisitive minds we have here on this thread. It's nice to know we still have some bright officers in there. Leadership doesn't need a title. There are a few true leaders in LWPD. I could name a few. They are uniters. You don't see them complain. They protest in silent when in disagreement which makes the others and the ranks think. They see that it is essential to work together to come towards a common solution. They inspire their co-workers and always see an achievement done as a team. Now even writing this, you'll still have a cynic critize this post. We can conclude bickering and fighting got the department nowhere. How about we try working together now? Could we at least give it a shot?

Well said , however some have titles and they aren't good one's . The good leader's know who they are and need no intro. They are not the one's that talk behind one's back and think that the department couldn't run without them. these are the guy's that everyone look's up to and the other's are the one's that we all laugh at.

It's funny that now the D/C is retiring one Lt is so afarid that KW is the next D/C he does nothing but talk behind his back as if that will make a difference , stop bad mouthing other's and accept that KW is the best one for the job he will move the department in the right direction without using his position to go after other's so just grow up.

THE THING WE NEED MOST IS FOR 100 TO START TO CARE AGAIN, LIKE HE DID A FEW YEARS AGO BEFORE HE LET THE 6 OR 7 BAD APPLES GET TO HIM. IF 100 DOES NOT CHANGE THEN NOTHING WILL CHANGE AT ALL.
100, GET WITH YOUR LT'S AND GET SOME IDEAS FROM THEM ON WHAT CAN BE DONE TO CHANGE THINGS AROUND THERE SO THE TROOPS WILL WANT TO WORK HARD FOR YOU AGAIN LIKE THEY DID IN THE PAST.[/quote:3cp8tkj7]

No 100 lost all repect in the department when he allowed KP come betewnn him and his troops, he allowed her to control him and the department.[/quote:3cp8tkj7]


SHE DIDN'T CONTROL THE COPS.[/quote:3cp8tkj7]

YOUR CORRECT < BUT SHE CONTROLLED HIM AND HE MADE SOME VERY POOR JUDGEMENT"S ABOUT OTHER"S BECUASE OF IT.

What is next for the police department which has seen so much changes within the past couple of months?

Things are moving in a positive direction.

Things are moving in a positive direction.

What story book are you reading from ? The city has refused to sign over our great contract to the PBA unless we give up our right's to the back pay and drop our grevience's, we arrest person's for such a crime.
The city is forcing us to go back to the table and work out a new contract which will never be as good as the one we got now.


The only good new's we have is that the D/C is leaving, hey D/C please take the chief with you.

Things are moving in a positive direction.

What things are evidence of a positive direction?

1. The uncertainty of the PBSO merger is resolved. It's a damn shame the merger failed and we can spend the next six months blaming and whining about it, OR we can turn our attention to fixing our own dept.

2. The current D/C is retiring. We can trash his leadership, resent his retirement package, even wish him ill health as some have done on here, OR we can see this as an opportunity for real administrative leadership. and NO this is not Kenny's Mom writing! Whoever gets the job has to balance administrative priorities (cutting costs) and what we need to do the job we signed on for (getting the bad guys and getting back home at the end of the shift in one peice.)

3. We have a new union. Like it or not. We can trash the formers reps, trash the new reps, and trash the process for how it all came to be, OR we can understand that this union, or any union, is only going to be as good as our UNITY. If you don't believe aything else, believe that the administration is united and committed to cutting costs and that means reducing personnel, challenging pension and other benefits, and spending as little as possible to keep the APPEARNCE that crime is their first priority. Which brings me to last and maybe most positive indicator.

4. The public is fed up and getting vocal about their anger and fear. But few understand what it is we do and what we can't do and why. That's starting to change. Commissioners HATE phone calls from unhappy and frightened voters. Every encounter with the public is an opportunity to build public support.

Alright, the city is playing games with us by not signing off on the PBA. Yeah, they're doing their best to divide and conquer. So what? We have a contract and most of all we have a brotherhood. Pitting union against union goes absolutely nowhere if the membership is truly a united force. Let the PBA know that we will not sacrifice our grievance rights just to make a clean slate for future negotiations. Let each one be settled or not on it's own merit. And let's do a better job teaching rookies about brotherhood.

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Do you think real professions have sites like this one to complain and embarrass themselves?

Dr.- affairs

or

Accountant - affairs

That's the shame of this type of site. Almost every negative or ridiculous post on the Lake Worth thread is coming from one guy and we all know who it is. The same guy who is constantly spreading rumors in the hall way. The same guy who caused us to have to switch unions because he turned it into a monarchy. Now he'll get on here and say I'm wrong and he'll do it several times under different screen names but his prose is always the same. It's also funny how the negative postings drop off when he is on vacation. I hope the people that read this site realize that everyone has a couple of these types and neither they nor the content on this site represent the department accurately. These "me" types don't realize the damage they do to the group when they act like children. In times where the public is complaining about funding our well deserved pensions and benefits a few idiots are on a blog acting like school kids. I guess anonymous "slams" make this person feel better about himself.

Poor Pete sounds like the same complaining you were doing to all the academy students . Lake Worth is in big trouble. Switch unions all you want the PBA has your number and the FOP will soon be rid of you in the end your just a loser.

Is the poor Pete you guy's are talking about the same Pete that teach's report writing ? my son a new LEO just took his class and what BS, he actully tell's them to lie , in his class he bragged about being the SWAT Lt but I find this hard to believe becuase I took a SWAT school with him in Hollywood many year's ago and he couldn't even make the run so he did not pass the class, he never even tried to finish the run by walking he just gave up, no heart. And the main thing in SWAT is to never give up, it's a shame if he's your SWAT Lt.

Can't wait to tell the guy's at Hollywood PD this one.

Hey what is your union giving your D/C for retirement , one of those stupid car stickers oh wait maybe a Rolex Lake Worth at least you keep us talking

Hey what is your union giving your D/C for retirement , one of those stupid car stickers oh wait maybe a Rolex Lake Worth at least you keep us talking

The union us giving him a big kick in the as-

he is anti union so he betteer not get anthing dud they buy Kane a gun???

I guess it is true. When you do wrong, it always come back to haunt you. Karma's really is a #%!&!!! It is a shame. I knew a day like this would come. You're next Pete. One by one they are falling like dominoes. To you all, you haven't seen nothing yet. Politics is a dirty business.
P.E. if you were a good man, you will finish your career at LWPD with confidence and pride with the respect of those you have led, but if you weren't. I can only feel sorry for you for the next chain of events that are about to take place in your life. Among many LEOs you're a disgrace. How does it feel now? Your wall is crumpling around you. You're vulnerable. Your wicked ways are finally catching up to you. Your title isn't going to save you. Remember your co-workers you did wrong and the unjust you committed to those you took an oath to protect and serve. Remember your hurtful comments towards others. Just remember

WOW let's talk about the PBA meeting the other night, at first the tact guy's tried to force the PBA to get rid of our grevience's for the 8 and half hour day but when they were told by the PBA that the grevience's were good one's then these same guy's wanted to try to join the grevience and they were told no.

Thank's Ernie for setting the meeting right and telling the cry babies about how the city waste's money on losing case's as you pointed out.I think this gave everone the PBA is going to stand up for it's member's when these type's of attack's come around by the city and chief.

Also you can see how the tact guy's controled by the admin come to these meeting's and attempt to control thing's and you also set them straight , good job it's nice to see that the city isn't going to control the union!
It's also funny that when we were asked who had grevience's out there for the 8 and half hour day Rich F didn't raise his hand but he is one of the 27 grevience's , and to think this is our appointed acting rep the one with no back bone I hope Ernie and Kaz see how he has no back bone , I wounder how he stand's up at all without a back bone , OH I know how he does it it's the chief's hand up his back directing on everything what a pupett.

WOW let's talk about the PBA meeting the other night, at first the tact guy's tried to force the PBA to get rid of our grevience's for the 8 and half hour day but when they were told by the PBA that the grevience's were good one's then these same guy's wanted to try to join the grevience and they were told no.

Thank's Ernie for setting the meeting right and telling the cry babies about how the city waste's money on losing case's as you pointed out.I think this gave everone the PBA is going to stand up for it's member's when these type's of attack's come around by the city and chief.

Also you can see how the tact guy's controled by the admin come to these meeting's and attempt to control thing's and you also set them straight , good job it's nice to see that the city isn't going to control the union!
It's also funny that when we were asked who had grevience's out there for the 8 and half hour day Rich F didn't raise his hand but he is one of the 27 grevience's , and to think this is our appointed acting rep the one with no back bone I hope Ernie and Kaz see how he has no back bone , I wounder how he stand's up at all without a back bone , OH I know how he does it it's the chief's hand up his back directing on everything what a pupett.

Hey bone head, Rich F dropped his "GREVIENCE", and so did another person who I can not name at this time because I forgot who it was.

[quote="PBA all the way":3w1qde35]WOW let's talk about the PBA meeting the other night, at first the tact guy's tried to force the PBA to get rid of our grevience's for the 8 and half hour day but when they were told by the PBA that the grevience's were good one's then these same guy's wanted to try to join the grevience and they were told no.

Thank's Ernie for setting the meeting right and telling the cry babies about how the city waste's money on losing case's as you pointed out.I think this gave everone the PBA is going to stand up for it's member's when these type's of attack's come around by the city and chief.

Also you can see how the tact guy's controled by the admin come to these meeting's and attempt to control thing's and you also set them straight , good job it's nice to see that the city isn't going to control the union!
It's also funny that when we were asked who had grevience's out there for the 8 and half hour day Rich F didn't raise his hand but he is one of the 27 grevience's , and to think this is our appointed acting rep the one with no back bone I hope Ernie and Kaz see how he has no back bone , I wounder how he stand's up at all without a back bone , OH I know how he does it it's the chief's hand up his back directing on everything what a pupett.

Hey bone head, Rich F dropped his "GREVIENCE", and so did another person who I can not name at this time because I forgot who it was.[/quote:3w1qde35]

Ok , I guess he asked the chief and the chief told him to drop his grevience, he still has NO BACK BONE

[quote="PBA all the way":15snqzg0]WOW let's talk about the PBA meeting the other night, at first the tact guy's tried to force the PBA to get rid of our grevience's for the 8 and half hour day but when they were told by the PBA that the grevience's were good one's then these same guy's wanted to try to join the grevience and they were told no.

Thank's Ernie for setting the meeting right and telling the cry babies about how the city waste's money on losing case's as you pointed out.I think this gave everone the PBA is going to stand up for it's member's when these type's of attack's come around by the city and chief.

Also you can see how the tact guy's controled by the admin come to these meeting's and attempt to control thing's and you also set them straight , good job it's nice to see that the city isn't going to control the union!
It's also funny that when we were asked who had grevience's out there for the 8 and half hour day Rich F didn't raise his hand but he is one of the 27 grevience's , and to think this is our appointed acting rep the one with no back bone I hope Ernie and Kaz see how he has no back bone , I wounder how he stand's up at all without a back bone , OH I know how he does it it's the chief's hand up his back directing on everything what a pupett.

Hey bone head, Rich F dropped his "GREVIENCE", and so did another person who I can not name at this time because I forgot who it was.

Ok , I guess he asked the chief and the chief told him to drop his grevience, he still has NO BACK BONE[/quote:15snqzg0]


10-33 lets look at the fact's Rich F called Joe at the FOP and questioned him why the FOP didn't file a class action grevience for the 8 and 1/2 hour day once the contract was signed. Joe told him that last time he acted for the group he was attacked by the cry babies so that if Rich and other's wanted to file grevience's for the 8 and 1/2 hour day's the FOP would go through with it. Rich got everyone together and they each filed thier grevience's .So thank Rich he started it all.
Now the city won't sign over the right's to the contarct to the PBA unless we drop the grevience's, Rich may have or may have not dropped his greveince but the fact of the matter he didn't have the --ll's to stand behind his grevience that he fought so hard to get in place, this show's he give's in to whatever the city want's. We DON'T need rep's acting in our behalf who are so controlled by the city. When it is time to vote remember no Sgt's as reps.it's to much of a conflict.

[quote="PBA all the way":1b1tu661]WOW let's talk about the PBA meeting the other night, at first the tact guy's tried to force the PBA to get rid of our grevience's for the 8 and half hour day but when they were told by the PBA that the grevience's were good one's then these same guy's wanted to try to join the grevience and they were told no.

Thank's Ernie for setting the meeting right and telling the cry babies about how the city waste's money on losing case's as you pointed out.I think this gave everone the PBA is going to stand up for it's member's when these type's of attack's come around by the city and chief.

Also you can see how the tact guy's controled by the admin come to these meeting's and attempt to control thing's and you also set them straight , good job it's nice to see that the city isn't going to control the union!
It's also funny that when we were asked who had grevience's out there for the 8 and half hour day Rich F didn't raise his hand but he is one of the 27 grevience's , and to think this is our appointed acting rep the one with no back bone I hope Ernie and Kaz see how he has no back bone , I wounder how he stand's up at all without a back bone , OH I know how he does it it's the chief's hand up his back directing on everything what a pupett.

Hey bone head, Rich F dropped his "GREVIENCE", and so did another person who I can not name at this time because I forgot who it was.

Ok , I guess he asked the chief and the chief told him to drop his grevience, he still has NO BACK BONE


10-33 lets look at the fact's Rich F called Joe at the FOP and questioned him why the FOP didn't file a class action grevience for the 8 and 1/2 hour day once the contract was signed. Joe told him that last time he acted for the group he was attacked by the cry babies so that if Rich and other's wanted to file grevience's for the 8 and 1/2 hour day's the FOP would go through with it. Rich got everyone together and they each filed thier grevience's .So thank Rich he started it all.
Now the city won't sign over the right's to the contarct to the PBA unless we drop the grevience's, Rich may have or may have not dropped his greveince but the fact of the matter he didn't have the --ll's to stand behind his grevience that he fought so hard to get in place, this show's he give's in to whatever the city want's. We DON'T need rep's acting in our behalf who are so controlled by the city. When it is time to vote remember no Sgt's as reps.it's to much of a conflict.[/quote:1b1tu661]

WOW: how does a guy put in a grevience then pull it back, this isn't someone I want as my rep, he can't make up his mind and he doesn't stand behind his decissions. he folded under presure like he has done in the past.

[quote="guest 1111":3dsoa82s][quote="PBA all the way":3dsoa82s]WOW let's talk about the PBA meeting the other night, at first the tact guy's tried to force the PBA to get rid of our grevience's for the 8 and half hour day but when they were told by the PBA that the grevience's were good one's then these same guy's wanted to try to join the grevience and they were told no.

Thank's Ernie for setting the meeting right and telling the cry babies about how the city waste's money on losing case's as you pointed out.I think this gave everone the PBA is going to stand up for it's member's when these type's of attack's come around by the city and chief.

Also you can see how the tact guy's controled by the admin come to these meeting's and attempt to control thing's and you also set them straight , good job it's nice to see that the city isn't going to control the union!
It's also funny that when we were asked who had grevience's out there for the 8 and half hour day Rich F didn't raise his hand but he is one of the 27 grevience's , and to think this is our appointed acting rep the one with no back bone I hope Ernie and Kaz see how he has no back bone , I wounder how he stand's up at all without a back bone , OH I know how he does it it's the chief's hand up his back directing on everything what a pupett.

Hey bone head, Rich F dropped his "GREVIENCE", and so did another person who I can not name at this time because I forgot who it was.

Ok , I guess he asked the chief and the chief told him to drop his grevience, he still has NO BACK BONE


10-33 lets look at the fact's Rich F called Joe at the FOP and questioned him why the FOP didn't file a class action grevience for the 8 and 1/2 hour day once the contract was signed. Joe told him that last time he acted for the group he was attacked by the cry babies so that if Rich and other's wanted to file grevience's for the 8 and 1/2 hour day's the FOP would go through with it. Rich got everyone together and they each filed thier grevience's .So thank Rich he started it all.
Now the city won't sign over the right's to the contarct to the PBA unless we drop the grevience's, Rich may have or may have not dropped his greveince but the fact of the matter he didn't have the --ll's to stand behind his grevience that he fought so hard to get in place, this show's he give's in to whatever the city want's. We DON'T need rep's acting in our behalf who are so controlled by the city. When it is time to vote remember no Sgt's as reps.it's to much of a conflict.[/quote:3dsoa82s]

WOW: how does a guy put in a grevience then pull it back, this isn't someone I want as my rep, he can't make up his mind and he doesn't stand behind his decissions. he folded under presure like he has done in the past.[/quote:3dsoa82s]

I just wanted to say I worked at LW several year's ago and now I'm with PBSO , I had an experience with RF and he is really the chief's boy.EDIT MOD425, NO PERSONAL ATTACKS FROM ANONYMOUS POSTERSWhile working at LW I saw him attack officer's for no reason other than they weren't liked by the chief.

How you guy's have him as a rep is stupid, he'll sell you out when he get's the chance , I saw this happen time and time again.

I 2nd that!

[quote=PBA][quote="guest 1111":5yr3ifqi][quote="PBA all the way":5yr3ifqi]WOW let's talk about the PBA meeting the other night, at first the tact guy's tried to force the PBA to get rid of our grevience's for the 8 and half hour day but when they were told by the PBA that the grevience's were good one's then these same guy's wanted to try to join the grevience and they were told no.

Thank's Ernie for setting the meeting right and telling the cry babies about how the city waste's money on losing case's as you pointed out.I think this gave everone the PBA is going to stand up for it's member's when these type's of attack's come around by the city and chief.

Also you can see how the tact guy's controled by the admin come to these meeting's and attempt to control thing's and you also set them straight , good job it's nice to see that the city isn't going to control the union!
It's also funny that when we were asked who had grevience's out there for the 8 and half hour day Rich F didn't raise his hand but he is one of the 27 grevience's , and to think this is our appointed acting rep the one with no back bone I hope Ernie and Kaz see how he has no back bone , I wounder how he stand's up at all without a back bone , OH I know how he does it it's the chief's hand up his back directing on everything what a pupett.

Hey bone head, Rich F dropped his "GREVIENCE", and so did another person who I can not name at this time because I forgot who it was.

Ok , I guess he asked the chief and the chief told him to drop his grevience, he still has NO BACK BONE


10-33 lets look at the fact's Rich F called Joe at the FOP and questioned him why the FOP didn't file a class action grevience for the 8 and 1/2 hour day once the contract was signed. Joe told him that last time he acted for the group he was attacked by the cry babies so that if Rich and other's wanted to file grevience's for the 8 and 1/2 hour day's the FOP would go through with it. Rich got everyone together and they each filed thier grevience's .So thank Rich he started it all.
Now the city won't sign over the right's to the contarct to the PBA unless we drop the grevience's, Rich may have or may have not dropped his greveince but the fact of the matter he didn't have the --ll's to stand behind his grevience that he fought so hard to get in place, this show's he give's in to whatever the city want's. We DON'T need rep's acting in our behalf who are so controlled by the city. When it is time to vote remember no Sgt's as reps.it's to much of a conflict.[/quote:5yr3ifqi]

WOW: how does a guy put in a grevience then pull it back, this isn't someone I want as my rep, he can't make up his mind and he doesn't stand behind his decissions. he folded under presure like he has done in the past.[/quote:5yr3ifqi]

I just wanted to say I worked at LW several year's ago and now I'm with PBSO , I had an experience with RF and he is really the chief's boy. I worked for PBSO when he had his incident at home and how it got in no trouble over that is unbelievable.While working at LW I saw him attack officer's for no reason other than they weren't liked by the chief.

How you guy's have him as a rep is stupid, he'll sell you out when he get's the chance , I saw this happen time and time again.[/quote:5yr3ifqi]

Hey EX LW
Sign your name. You don't have to hide if you are no longer with LWPD.

Hey the SO is down 60 slot's and hiring come on over the water is great!

Hey the SO is down 60 slot's and hiring come on over the water is great!

NO BALLS

[quote="ex LW":14s7q5um]Hey the SO is down 60 slot's and hiring come on over the water is great!

NO BALLS[/quote:14s7q5um]

Why don't you post your name?

Hey does anyone know what is going on with our contract issue as far as the PBA?

Hey brother and sister's has anyone heard about what the city intends to do with our contract. I called the PBA and nobody up there can give me an answer.

Hey brother and sister's has anyone heard about what the city intends to do with our contract. I called the PBA and nobody up there can give me an answer.

Check the board in the lunch room.

Got a letter for the PBA to submit names for nominations for reps. Hmmm, who should I (or shouln't I) vote for???

Got a letter for the PBA to submit names for nominations for reps. Hmmm, who should I (or shouln't I) vote for???


Remember no Sgt's for reps !!!!!!!



Let's put someone in there that will be fare to all of us and not be presured by the Adm to sell out anyone.

One past rep , a Sgt in and current acting rep, sold out his soul many time's, once when he allowed part time dispatchers to get first pick on over time only to allow his wife to get first pick of OT.

He also tried to sell out officers by going to the FOP and trying not to get certin officers protection even when he admitted that the officers did nothing wrong , but the chief didn't like them.

He also is aware of recent policy changes that the chief is currently trying to change that effect our condictions of employment and he hasn't passed these items over to the PBA attorneys so they can address them as so the city would have to bargin for the changes.

He is the same person who recently went after his own traffic officer and solicted complaints from dispatchers so he could write up the officer without a proper investigation under the contract.

This is the same person who was over heard stating that the new reps needed to control on who and who doesn't get protection from the PBA .

We don't need reps like this we need reps that will stand up for our rights and not sell us out or throw us under a bus.

Got a letter for the PBA to submit names for nominations for reps. Hmmm, who should I (or shouln't I) vote for???


Remember no Sgt's for reps !!!!!!!



Let's put someone in there that will be fare to all of us and not be presured by the Adm to sell out anyone.

One past rep , a Sgt in and current acting rep, sold out his soul many time's, once when he allowed part time dispatchers to get first pick on over time only to allow his wife to get first pick of OT.

He also tried to sell out officers by going to the FOP and trying not to get certin officers protection even when he admitted that the officers did nothing wrong , but the chief didn't like them.

He also is aware of recent policy changes that the chief is currently trying to change that effect our condictions of employment and he hasn't passed these items over to the PBA attorneys so they can address them as so the city would have to bargin for the changes.

He is the same person who recently went after his own traffic officer and solicted complaints from dispatchers so he could write up the officer without a proper investigation under the contract.

This is the same person who was over heard stating that the new reps needed to control on who and who doesn't get protection from the PBA .

We don't need reps like this we need reps that will stand up for our rights and not sell us out or throw us under a bus.

I have to agree , I have only been hear 3 year's and I seen and experienced this type of poor reps.

We need to vote for officers who will stand up for us.

Are we going to have enough officers working here to have a union in 6 months? I heard we have so many officers applying for jobs at other agencies. Does anyone know f this is true? How many are leaving? Who is running for rep?

Hey "rep" How come all the "people" who agree with you on here spell as poorly as you do? Hmmm.

For that matter all the negative posts have poor spelling and grammar. Hmmm.

Do we have that many officers in need of spelling/ grammar class or do we have a couple officers with multiple online personalities?

Brave men with anonymous keyboards. Hmmm.

It doesn't matter anymore. SO is down 60 deputies and will start hiring again at a normal pace. There is at least 8 officers with apps out including me. I've tried to be patient, but it's time to move on from this place.

What is the deal with all the un-happiness? Can someone please advise. as I am interested in applying to LWPD but after reading all of your posts, I am kind of concerned with all the issues. I would greatly appreciate if one of you guys could give me the low down on the department before I make any rash decisions. THANKS.

All this is, is spoiled kids not getting there way and thinking the grass is greener some where else. These are the same people who drag out injuries to not work and the one's who are unhappy no matter where they would be working. If you want to be a cop and not a baby then good luck to you but for those who come here and want to be a baby we got enough of those already, so go some where else. I geuss one thing is going for this department and that is people who are good cops (2) left thinking the grass was greener some where else and went and worked some where else only to come back and start back again at LWPD this week.

All this is, is spoiled kids not getting there way and thinking the grass is greener some where else. These are the same people who drag out injuries to not work and the one's who are unhappy no matter where they would be working. If you want to be a cop and not a baby then good luck to you but for those who come here and want to be a baby we got enough of those already, so go some where else. I geuss one thing is going for this department and that is people who are good cops (2) left thinking the grass was greener some where else and went and worked some where else only to come back and start back again at LWPD this week.

There's only one guy that left and came back and is still here.He is one of the biggest babies, back stabbing persons in the department. When yelled at several year's ago for poor police work he actully started crying in front of severla officer's , and now he's a LT only because he can pass a test with a high score, such a shame becacuse there are better peolple for the job.

All this is, is spoiled kids not getting there way and thinking the grass is greener some where else. These are the same people who drag out injuries to not work and the one's who are unhappy no matter where they would be working. If you want to be a cop and not a baby then good luck to you but for those who come here and want to be a baby we got enough of those already, so go some where else. I geuss one thing is going for this department and that is people who are good cops (2) left thinking the grass was greener some where else and went and worked some where else only to come back and start back again at LWPD this week.

There's only one guy that left and came back and is still here.He is one of the biggest babies, back stabbing persons in the department. When yelled at several year's ago for poor police work he actully started crying in front of severla officer's , and now he's a LT only because he can pass a test with a high score, such a shame becacuse there are better peolple for the job.


I bet he can spell better than you!!

All this is, is spoiled kids not getting there way and thinking the grass is greener some where else. These are the same people who drag out injuries to not work and the one's who are unhappy no matter where they would be working. If you want to be a cop and not a baby then good luck to you but for those who come here and want to be a baby we got enough of those already, so go some where else. I geuss one thing is going for this department and that is people who are good cops (2) left thinking the grass was greener some where else and went and worked some where else only to come back and start back again at LWPD this week.

There's only one guy that left and came back and is still here.He is one of the biggest babies, back stabbing persons in the department. When yelled at several year's ago for poor police work he actully started crying in front of severla officer's , and now he's a LT only because he can pass a test with a high score, such a shame becacuse there are better peolple for the job.


I bet he can spell better than you!!

But he is not half the cop I am .

These postings never seem to stop making me laugh. So hilarious! We should have a reality TV show at the station. I guarantee you we'd beat Reno 911 in the ratings. Sad, but true. There is so much infighting. The funny thing about it, you never know who is throwing jabs at who on these anonymous postings. It could be another Lt getting on another Lt's case or some disgruntled Sgts who probably got passed up for the Lt's positions awhile back that has an ax to grind. So ya'll don't assume it's the regualrs. It may very well be the guy who sits right next to you in your staff meetings or better yet the D/C. :D

I just can't stop laughing.

Actual we have two cops back in FTO who left here and cam back so if you are one of those idiots who left here and are still on this board b/c you have nothing else better to do then grow khonas and grow up. Sorry that you think you are better then you are but it sounds like you were one of those people who didnt get there way because they were spoiled.

Didn't get their way because they were spoiled? huh? Does that make sense? You guys have a lot of time on your hands.

Hey, Goodbye poster - the word you were looking for is cujones (look it up in the urban dictionary). Maybe you were thinking of the coffee which is spelled kona. Sounds like more than one of you needs to grow a couple!

[quote="guest 1111":2nyeg1rt][quote="PBA all the way":2nyeg1rt]WOW let's talk about the PBA meeting the other night, at first the tact guy's tried to force the PBA to get rid of our grevience's for the 8 and half hour day but when they were told by the PBA that the grevience's were good one's then these same guy's wanted to try to join the grevience and they were told no.

Thank's Ernie for setting the meeting right and telling the cry babies about how the city waste's money on losing case's as you pointed out.I think this gave everone the PBA is going to stand up for it's member's when these type's of attack's come around by the city and chief.

Also you can see how the tact guy's controled by the admin come to these meeting's and attempt to control thing's and you also set them straight , good job it's nice to see that the city isn't going to control the union!
It's also funny that when we were asked who had grevience's out there for the 8 and half hour day Rich F didn't raise his hand but he is one of the 27 grevience's , and to think this is our appointed acting rep the one with no back bone I hope Ernie and Kaz see how he has no back bone , I wounder how he stand's up at all without a back bone , OH I know how he does it it's the chief's hand up his back directing on everything what a pupett.

Hey bone head, Rich F dropped his "GREVIENCE", and so did another person who I can not name at this time because I forgot who it was.

Ok , I guess he asked the chief and the chief told him to drop his grevience, he still has NO BACK BONE


10-33 lets look at the fact's Rich F called Joe at the FOP and questioned him why the FOP didn't file a class action grevience for the 8 and 1/2 hour day once the contract was signed. Joe told him that last time he acted for the group he was attacked by the cry babies so that if Rich and other's wanted to file grevience's for the 8 and 1/2 hour day's the FOP would go through with it. Rich got everyone together and they each filed thier grevience's .So thank Rich he started it all.
Now the city won't sign over the right's to the contarct to the PBA unless we drop the grevience's, Rich may have or may have not dropped his greveince but the fact of the matter he didn't have the --ll's to stand behind his grevience that he fought so hard to get in place, this show's he give's in to whatever the city want's. We DON'T need rep's acting in our behalf who are so controlled by the city. When it is time to vote remember no Sgt's as reps.it's to much of a conflict.[/quote:2nyeg1rt]

WOW: how does a guy put in a grevience then pull it back, this isn't someone I want as my rep, he can't make up his mind and he doesn't stand behind his decissions. he folded under presure like he has done in the past.[/quote:2nyeg1rt]

REMEMBER VOTE NO FOR RF FOR REP ANY QUESTIONS CALL GARY LIPMAN AT THE PBA HE TELL HOW RF BACKS DOWN ON ISSUES AND HE WILL NOT SUUPORT YOU AS A REP LIKE HE HAS DONE IN THE PAST TO OTHERS. CHECK HIS TRACK RECORD AS A PBA AND FOP REP HE"LL SELL YOU OUT!!!!!!!

[quote=PBA][quote="guest 1111":1t2ut14j][quote="PBA all the way":1t2ut14j]WOW let's talk about the PBA meeting the other night, at first the tact guy's tried to force the PBA to get rid of our grevience's for the 8 and half hour day but when they were told by the PBA that the grevience's were good one's then these same guy's wanted to try to join the grevience and they were told no.

Thank's Ernie for setting the meeting right and telling the cry babies about how the city waste's money on losing case's as you pointed out.I think this gave everone the PBA is going to stand up for it's member's when these type's of attack's come around by the city and chief.

Also you can see how the tact guy's controled by the admin come to these meeting's and attempt to control thing's and you also set them straight , good job it's nice to see that the city isn't going to control the union!
It's also funny that when we were asked who had grevience's out there for the 8 and half hour day Rich F didn't raise his hand but he is one of the 27 grevience's , and to think this is our appointed acting rep the one with no back bone I hope Ernie and Kaz see how he has no back bone , I wounder how he stand's up at all without a back bone , OH I know how he does it it's the chief's hand up his back directing on everything what a pupett.

Hey bone head, Rich F dropped his "GREVIENCE", and so did another person who I can not name at this time because I forgot who it was.

Ok , I guess he asked the chief and the chief told him to drop his grevience, he still has NO BACK BONE


10-33 lets look at the fact's Rich F called Joe at the FOP and questioned him why the FOP didn't file a class action grevience for the 8 and 1/2 hour day once the contract was signed. Joe told him that last time he acted for the group he was attacked by the cry babies so that if Rich and other's wanted to file grevience's for the 8 and 1/2 hour day's the FOP would go through with it. Rich got everyone together and they each filed thier grevience's .So thank Rich he started it all.
Now the city won't sign over the right's to the contarct to the PBA unless we drop the grevience's, Rich may have or may have not dropped his greveince but the fact of the matter he didn't have the --ll's to stand behind his grevience that he fought so hard to get in place, this show's he give's in to whatever the city want's. We DON'T need rep's acting in our behalf who are so controlled by the city. When it is time to vote remember no Sgt's as reps.it's to much of a conflict.[/quote:1t2ut14j]

WOW: how does a guy put in a grevience then pull it back, this isn't someone I want as my rep, he can't make up his mind and he doesn't stand behind his decissions. he folded under presure like he has done in the past.[/quote:1t2ut14j]

REMEMBER VOTE NO FOR RF FOR REP ANY QUESTIONS CALL GARY LIPMAN AT THE PBA HE TELL HOW RF BACKS DOWN ON ISSUES AND HE WILL NOT SUUPORT YOU AS A REP LIKE HE HAS DONE IN THE PAST TO OTHERS. CHECK HIS TRACK RECORD AS A PBA AND FOP REP HE"LL SELL YOU OUT!!!!!!![/quote:1t2ut14j]

Let's check your record.

1. Anonymous postings=No cajones
2. Call Lipman=I won't post my name but I'll volunteer someone else
3. Vote no for RF=Listen to the man behind the curtain, he's a great and wise wizard.

I don't know if RF is the right person for PBA rep or not, but we don't need your anonymous suggestions and implications. Go back to OZ Dorthy.

[quote=PBA][quote="guest 1111":2f5pjxb9][quote="PBA all the way":2f5pjxb9]WOW let's talk about the PBA meeting the other night, at first the tact guy's tried to force the PBA to get rid of our grevience's for the 8 and half hour day but when they were told by the PBA that the grevience's were good one's then these same guy's wanted to try to join the grevience and they were told no.

Thank's Ernie for setting the meeting right and telling the cry babies about how the city waste's money on losing case's as you pointed out.I think this gave everone the PBA is going to stand up for it's member's when these type's of attack's come around by the city and chief.

Also you can see how the tact guy's controled by the admin come to these meeting's and attempt to control thing's and you also set them straight , good job it's nice to see that the city isn't going to control the union!
It's also funny that when we were asked who had grevience's out there for the 8 and half hour day Rich F didn't raise his hand but he is one of the 27 grevience's , and to think this is our appointed acting rep the one with no back bone I hope Ernie and Kaz see how he has no back bone , I wounder how he stand's up at all without a back bone , OH I know how he does it it's the chief's hand up his back directing on everything what a pupett.

Hey bone head, Rich F dropped his "GREVIENCE", and so did another person who I can not name at this time because I forgot who it was.

Ok , I guess he asked the chief and the chief told him to drop his grevience, he still has NO BACK BONE


10-33 lets look at the fact's Rich F called Joe at the FOP and questioned him why the FOP didn't file a class action grevience for the 8 and 1/2 hour day once the contract was signed. Joe told him that last time he acted for the group he was attacked by the cry babies so that if Rich and other's wanted to file grevience's for the 8 and 1/2 hour day's the FOP would go through with it. Rich got everyone together and they each filed thier grevience's .So thank Rich he started it all.
Now the city won't sign over the right's to the contarct to the PBA unless we drop the grevience's, Rich may have or may have not dropped his greveince but the fact of the matter he didn't have the --ll's to stand behind his grevience that he fought so hard to get in place, this show's he give's in to whatever the city want's. We DON'T need rep's acting in our behalf who are so controlled by the city. When it is time to vote remember no Sgt's as reps.it's to much of a conflict.[/quote:2f5pjxb9]

WOW: how does a guy put in a grevience then pull it back, this isn't someone I want as my rep, he can't make up his mind and he doesn't stand behind his decissions. he folded under presure like he has done in the past.[/quote:2f5pjxb9]

REMEMBER VOTE NO FOR RF FOR REP ANY QUESTIONS CALL GARY LIPMAN AT THE PBA HE TELL HOW RF BACKS DOWN ON ISSUES AND HE WILL NOT SUUPORT YOU AS A REP LIKE HE HAS DONE IN THE PAST TO OTHERS. CHECK HIS TRACK RECORD AS A PBA AND FOP REP HE"LL SELL YOU OUT!!!!!!![/quote:2f5pjxb9]

Let's check your record.

1. Anonymous postings=No cajones
2. Call Lipman=I won't post my name but I'll volunteer someone else
3. Vote no for RF=Listen to the man behind the curtain, he's a great and wise wizard.

I don't know if RF is the right person for PBA rep or not, but we don't need your anonymous suggestions and implications. Go back to OZ Dorthy.

[quote=PBA][quote="guest 1111":2rx5tpod][quote="PBA all the way":2rx5tpod]WOW let's talk about the PBA meeting the other night, at first the tact guy's tried to force the PBA to get rid of our grevience's for the 8 and half hour day but when they were told by the PBA that the grevience's were good one's then these same guy's wanted to try to join the grevience and they were told no.

Thank's Ernie for setting the meeting right and telling the cry babies about how the city waste's money on losing case's as you pointed out.I think this gave everone the PBA is going to stand up for it's member's when these type's of attack's come around by the city and chief.

Also you can see how the tact guy's controled by the admin come to these meeting's and attempt to control thing's and you also set them straight , good job it's nice to see that the city isn't going to control the union!
It's also funny that when we were asked who had grevience's out there for the 8 and half hour day Rich F didn't raise his hand but he is one of the 27 grevience's , and to think this is our appointed acting rep the one with no back bone I hope Ernie and Kaz see how he has no back bone , I wounder how he stand's up at all without a back bone , OH I know how he does it it's the chief's hand up his back directing on everything what a pupett.

Hey bone head, Rich F dropped his "GREVIENCE", and so did another person who I can not name at this time because I forgot who it was.

Ok , I guess he asked the chief and the chief told him to drop his grevience, he still has NO BACK BONE


10-33 lets look at the fact's Rich F called Joe at the FOP and questioned him why the FOP didn't file a class action grevience for the 8 and 1/2 hour day once the contract was signed. Joe told him that last time he acted for the group he was attacked by the cry babies so that if Rich and other's wanted to file grevience's for the 8 and 1/2 hour day's the FOP would go through with it. Rich got everyone together and they each filed thier grevience's .So thank Rich he started it all.
Now the city won't sign over the right's to the contarct to the PBA unless we drop the grevience's, Rich may have or may have not dropped his greveince but the fact of the matter he didn't have the --ll's to stand behind his grevience that he fought so hard to get in place, this show's he give's in to whatever the city want's. We DON'T need rep's acting in our behalf who are so controlled by the city. When it is time to vote remember no Sgt's as reps.it's to much of a conflict.[/quote:2rx5tpod]

WOW: how does a guy put in a grevience then pull it back, this isn't someone I want as my rep, he can't make up his mind and he doesn't stand behind his decissions. he folded under presure like he has done in the past.[/quote:2rx5tpod]

REMEMBER VOTE NO FOR RF FOR REP ANY QUESTIONS CALL GARY LIPMAN AT THE PBA HE TELL HOW RF BACKS DOWN ON ISSUES AND HE WILL NOT SUUPORT YOU AS A REP LIKE HE HAS DONE IN THE PAST TO OTHERS. CHECK HIS TRACK RECORD AS A PBA AND FOP REP HE"LL SELL YOU OUT!!!!!!![/quote:2rx5tpod]

Let's check your record.

1. Anonymous postings=No cajones
2. Call Lipman=I won't post my name but I'll volunteer someone else
3. Vote no for RF=Listen to the man behind the curtain, he's a great and wise wizard.

I don't know if RF is the right person for PBA rep or not, but we don't need your anonymous suggestions and implications. Go back to OZ Dorthy.

Do monkeys really fly? :roll:

Finally someone has seen the light or exposed a little of it. A lot of double crossing. People that only think for themselves. And it should not surprise anyone that most of this is coming from Sergeants and above. It isn't the regular people like you think. This department has so much potentials. It is sad just a few are ruining it. The foot soldiers can't do much if all the mess is happening above them.

I can not believe who is running for union reps:
B.E.
M.M.
R.B.

The other two do not surprise me.

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