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01-29-2008, 03:51 PM
Oh Heavens No, Not Waterboarding
by joellerose | January 19, 2008 at 02:28 pm | 284 views | 6 comments Upload Photos, Videos and Audio

Unilateral Disarming is still a BAD Idea
by BigT
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To those nanny-state liberals who are loudly objecting to the rare use of water-boarding terrorists in a life-or-death situation, I call attention to the fact that, in the real world, decent people sometimes have to confront an evil that most of these liberals canít conceive can exist.

I am referring to an horrendous event that is unfolding in South Florida that is described below. I would use water-boarding in an instant on this alleged monster even though I know in my heart that Denise Amber Lee is almost certainly already dead and buried somewhere nearby.

Saturday, Jan. 19, 2008 at 9:49 a.m. Herald-Tribune
Police: Kidnapping still a search-and-rescue effort
NORTH PORT -- The massive search for kidnap victim Denise Amber Lee, nabbed from her North Port home Thursday, remains a rescue effort and not a recovery mission, authorities stressed today.

Investigators said they have no reason to believe Lee, a 21-year-old mother of two, is not still alive. And, they added, search teams will continue to operate in rescue mode at least through mid-week.

The police continue to track at least 25 leads in the case, though they have ruled out a sandal found near Parrish late Friday and clothing found in North Port earlier in the day as connected to the kidnapping.

Lee has been missing since at least 3:20 p.m. Thursday, when her husband, Nathaniel, arrived at the couple's Latour Avenue home to find their 1 1/2-year old and 6-month-old sons home alone, though unharmed.

Michael Lee King did not even live here anymore. He had quit his job, moved away and was losing his house on Sardinia Avenue.

A few of his neighbors thought good riddance because they suspected he was the one who had slashed their tires and pelted their cars with eggs.

Then on Thursday afternoon his green Camaro showed up in the driveway of the Lees. Nathaniel was out working one of his three jobs. Denise, 21, was home with their two young sons -- it was nap time.

Neighbors had seen the car a few times, and immediately suspected something was amiss.

The last time Denise Lee was seen, police say she was trying to climb out of the Camaro and make a run for it, while King shoved her back into the car. She yelled, "Call the cops," to a witness.

After two days of investigating, detectives say they have still not found any connection between King and the Lees.

King, 36, was arrested Thursday night and charged with her kidnapping, but an exhaustive search has yielded few signs of Lee.

On Friday, more than 100 deputies and police scoured the woods near the place where King was pulled over and arrested Thursday. The searchers beat through brush so thick they could barely see the ground. They climbed into kayaks and johnboats to search canals and ponds. They found some clothes, but could not immediately say whether they belonged to Lee.

Deputies also accompanied King to the same area on Thursday night, but did not find her.

One of the officers aiding in the investigation was Denise Lee's father, Charlotte County sheriff's Lt. Richard Goff, former head of the narcotics bureau.

Goff was adamant that he "wants to stay involved" in the search, said Chief Deputy Bill Cameron.

Late Friday, the search commenced in northern Manatee County after investigators discovered that King's cell phone had relayed from a tower there. They found a sandal there that might, or might not, be related to the investigation.

As authorities searched in North Port, a few residents volunteered to help, perhaps reminded of the last time an abduction turned the city upside-down. It was less than a year and a half ago that 6-year-old Coralrose Fullwood was abducted from her home in the middle of the night, raped and murdered.

While police still have not charged anyone with the assault on Coralrose, a description of the green Camaro led to the arrest of King about six hours after Denise Lee disappeared.

King spent Friday in jail, charged with her abduction, trying to convince the police that he was really the victim.

His cousin, Harold Muxlow, was the witness who says he saw a young woman in King's car on Thursday and heard her cry for help.

Muxlow visited King in jail early Friday and talked to him about Lee. But Muxlow said King insisted that he was driving in North Port on Thursday and stopped to help a driver, who pulled a gun on him.

Muxlow said his cousin told him the driver abducted both him and Lee.

According to North Port police records, Lee was reported missing at 3:29 p.m. Thursday, when her husband, Nathaniel, returned to their North Port home and found their two young boys alone, though unharmed. He told officers he found Denise's purse, keys and cell phone in the house.

But the case did not immediately cause alarm at the North Port Police Department. Police agencies take dozens of missing adult reports every year, and do not begin a search unless they have reason to believe the missing person is in danger.

That came about 6:15 p.m. when Denise Lee called 911 on a cell phone, crying as she spoke to the dispatcher. The connection was lost, but Lee was on the phone long enough for officers to trace the call back to its owner -- King -- and they confirmed that he owned a green Camaro like the one seen by a neighbor earlier in the day pulling into the Lees' driveway.

Police closed off the roads in and out of North Port, and began the search that continued into Friday night.

A few minutes after Lee's 911 call, detectives got more information.

King's cousin, Muxlow, called 911 to report that King had shown up at his house and asked to borrow a shovel, a gas can and a flashlight, saying his lawn mower had gotten stuck in a ditch.

Muxlow gave King the items and as he did said he noticed a woman in the back seat of the Camaro who asked him to call for help.

But King was alone three hours later when a Florida Highway Patrol trooper pulled over his car on Toledo Blade Boulevard near Interstate 75.

He was soaking wet. They towed his car to a police garage, and found in it a long, blond hair, a woman's ring and a shovel.

King waived his first appearance in court Friday, and is being held at the Sarasota County jail without bail.

At the Tidevue Estates mobile home park in Ellenton, King's mother, Patsy, said she first heard about the abduction and the arrest while watching the news.

Police came by to speak with her, Patsy King said, but she could not offer them much information. She said the accusations are "totally out of character for Mike."

King has lived in both Michigan and Southwest Florida in recent years, and came back to North Port several months ago looking for work. He thought he had a new job lined up with a plumbing outfit, but that fell through.

Patsy King says her son was facing foreclosure on his North Port home, and had about 90 days before he had to move out. He had been debating whether or not to head back to Michigan, where King hoped to get a job and spend more time with his 12-year-old son.

His son lives with King's brother and sister-in-law in Michigan.

"I know he was thinking about going back home," Patsy King said. "He was having trouble down here, and he thought maybe the jobs would be better up in Michigan."

Authorities said they planned to resume the search for Lee at dawn today, once again breaking into several teams of 30 or so officers on the ground, aided by canines and helicopters.

Chief Deputy Cameron said that despite the circumstances surrounding Lee's disappearance and King's arrest, he and the other officers remained hopeful.

"We're still looking for a person, not a body," he said.

January 19, 2008 at 02:28 pm by joellerose, 284 views, 6 comments
in Florida, Opinions, Politics, terrorism, Water-boarding

04-13-2008, 02:41 AM
...and you think you'll get reliable and truthful information all the time?

04-14-2008, 09:28 PM
Man I have seen that crap story on the net in half a dozen different forms for over two years..
Poster you would probably want to torture someone for parking in a firelane.
You are the kind of cop that any department can do with out.