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I was wondering, how is it that Capt. Cave was brought in at the rank of LT to ABT? He did not have that rank at the previous job. He came in and then made Capt. within a year-oversaw moving all training to Tallahassee, eliminated local region trainers-oversaw accreditation costs, pushed a 35-mile rule that was overruled in state court-oversaw discipline, pushed several firings that resulted in civil action-oversaw an office budget nearly 100k a year-today Capt. Cave is a District Supervisor with no previous mgmt. exper. in enforcement. Just a year or so ago a dozen supervisors were commanded to drive to Tallahassee and were ordered, one at a time, to meet with Capt. Cave and the Chief for undocumented discipline without benefit of union representation.
Hey give they guy a break , if he was bold enought to do all that and get away with it he must have some type of brain. He was at the right time, right place and had the right contacts and support from the old chief and director. He is now in the system and very hard to fire or demote since all he did was approved by the past chief and director so that leaves him off the hook. If you or anyboby else was harmed by his direct action then sue him. I by no means am a Caver but far from it, the Direct problably knows all about this gentleman from all her field visits. I know a few current and past agents that would like to meet up with him in a ring and go a few rounds with him , me included, but remember what goes around comes around. Enough said about caveman.
Is that true about the LT's being questioned in this way? They went through that?
Hey give they guy a break , if he was bold enought to do all that and get away with it he must have some type of brain. He was at the right time, right place and had the right contacts and support from the old chief and director. He is now in the system and very hard to fire or demote since all he did was approved by the past chief and director so that leaves him off the hook. If you or anyboby else was harmed by his direct action then sue him. I by no means am a Caver but far from it, the Direct problably knows all about this gentleman from all her field visits. I know a few current and past agents that would like to meet up with him in a ring and go a few rounds with him , me included, but remember what goes around comes around. Enough said about caveman.
Many were harmed.
Ronnie is a great guy and you all should stop picking at the guy. He works hard trying to make ABT a better place to work. He is an honest guy who never backstabs or speaks ill of another just to start IA's. I have know him all his life and would challenge you to find a better human being.
Sincerely,
Ronnie's mother
Is that true about the LT's being questioned in this way? They went through that?
Do you think management can't question employees? Sure they can. And?????????
I was wondering, how is it that Capt. Cave was brought in at the rank of LT to ABT? He did not have that rank at the previous job. He came in and then made Capt. within a year-oversaw moving all training to Tallahassee, eliminated local region trainers-oversaw accreditation costs, pushed a 35-mile rule that was overruled in state court-oversaw discipline, pushed several firings that resulted in civil action-oversaw an office budget nearly 100k a year-today Capt. Cave is a District Supervisor with no previous mgmt. exper. in enforcement. Just a year or so ago a dozen supervisors were commanded to drive to Tallahassee and were ordered, one at a time, to meet with Capt. Cave and the Chief for undocumented discipline without benefit of union representation.
What in the world is undocumented discipline? Just curious...just in case I have some!
I was wondering, how is it that Capt. Cave was brought in at the rank of LT to ABT? He did not have that rank at the previous job. He came in and then made Capt. within a year-oversaw moving all training to Tallahassee, eliminated local region trainers-oversaw accreditation costs, pushed a 35-mile rule that was overruled in state court-oversaw discipline, pushed several firings that resulted in civil action-oversaw an office budget nearly 100k a year-today Capt. Cave is a District Supervisor with no previous mgmt. exper. in enforcement. Just a year or so ago a dozen supervisors were commanded to drive to Tallahassee and were ordered, one at a time, to meet with Capt. Cave and the Chief for undocumented discipline without benefit of union representation.
Do that to Cindy they want be commanded to drive to Tallahassee for a second chance...I assure you! They will be commanded to drive home if you know what I mean.
I was wondering, how is it that Capt. Cave was brought in at the rank of LT to ABT? He did not have that rank at the previous job. He came in and then made Capt. within a year-oversaw moving all training to Tallahassee, eliminated local region trainers-oversaw accreditation costs, pushed a 35-mile rule that was overruled in state court-oversaw discipline, pushed several firings that resulted in civil action-oversaw an office budget nearly 100k a year-today Capt. Cave is a District Supervisor with no previous mgmt. exper. in enforcement. Just a year or so ago a dozen supervisors were commanded to drive to Tallahassee and were ordered, one at a time, to meet with Capt. Cave and the Chief for undocumented discipline without benefit of union representation.
What in the world is undocumented discipline? Just curious...just in case I have some!
You should know Ron, you arranged it. You were there. With Tolbert and Jennifer Nash. It's when supervisors and agents are ordered to meet with management, denied union representation, questioned about a topic that could result in discipline, then told their jobs will be threatened if they complain about it. It's one of the many times you violated the Police Officer's Bill of Rights.
What happened was, a long time Tampa agent sent an email from his private account to acquaintances within and outside ABT listing the string of bad managers and bad management decisions made during 2007 and 2006. The email was right. Cave ordered all the recipients of the email who were supervisors at ABT to drive to Tallahassee for a meeting. They were all ordered to not speak to each other nor were they told the purpose of the meeting. They were ordered once they all got to Tallahassee not to speak to each other or anyone else. Each person was escorted into the Chiefs office, door closed, then Cave showed them the email and threatened their job. No one was read Garrity, no tapes, no transcripts, no written records. That's what the post meant by undocumented discipline-violating free speech, officers rights, and the constitution we all swore an oath to defend.
What happened was, a long time Tampa agent sent an email from his private account to acquaintances within and outside ABT listing the string of bad managers and bad management decisions made during 2007 and 2006. The email was right. Cave ordered all the recipients of the email who were supervisors at ABT to drive to Tallahassee for a meeting. They were all ordered to not speak to each other nor were they told the purpose of the meeting. They were ordered once they all got to Tallahassee not to speak to each other or anyone else. Each person was escorted into the Chiefs office, door closed, then Cave showed them the email and threatened their job. No one was read Garrity, no tapes, no transcripts, no written records. That's what the post meant by undocumented discipline-violating free speech, officers rights, and the constitution we all swore an oath to defend.
And where was the chief and the major?? Wern't they also present??
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Somebody please get a kleenex...or a Psych. These folks are crying a river.
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Somebody please get a kleenex...or a Psych. These folks are crying a river.
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Right you asshole. the constitution is just a joke. police rights is a joke. those of us who have real police experience are just crybabies. we should go elsewhere. we keep hearing the same lines from you, retarded asshole. tell you what, maybe, just maybe, the constitution means something. maybe, just maybe, people who stand up for their rights are not crybabys. maybe, just maybe, you and your evil friends will get your asshole selves out of here and leave us to do criminal investigations, meaningful task force work, and other things that may or may not have a direct nexus to teenage smokers at the mall. punk ass *****.
Quick...someone get a kleenex. Not for the last poster but for me...I am laughing :lol: :lol: so hard causing so many tears I cannot see the keyboard to.. tpe..I mean type..see what I mean. :snicker:
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