The Problem with any Admin at ABT

This is not a knock any one administration here at ABT.

Take a look at everyone at the top at ABT including some Captains. (except Roberts)

Now pull up the website of any major police department.

Compare the backgrounds of the two. The glaring difference is that the admin at police departments have worked their way on up from the rank and file. As chief or sherrif you may be able to bring in your number 2 but don't think you will bring in new guys off the street to fill all the top slots. That's the real problem here. We are a very specialized law enforcement agency and every two years we get new people running the ship with very little senior leadership in place.

For those of us that have worked other places can you even imagine the uproar if the chief appointed a new employee as sgt or even detective without them doing time on the road. It just doesn't happen.

That process ensures that the guys on the road may have a chance of getting off. If the specialty units were always filled by friends from other agencies a lot of the road patrol would go elsewhere and I think that is why we have a %25 yearly turnover rate.

When you look at our job, no one should be leaving. People should be staying until they retire. On the face of it this is so much better than humping calls on the road. It's the internal irritants that causes people to leave. Don't say it's the money because we all knew the pay sucked when we started. People say it's the money because they realize the meager pay is not worth the agravation.

This is not a knock any one administration here at ABT.

Take a look at everyone at the top at ABT including some Captains. (except Roberts)

Now pull up the website of any major police department.

Compare the backgrounds of the two. The glaring difference is that the admin at police departments have worked their way on up from the rank and file. As chief or sherrif you may be able to bring in your number 2 but don't think you will bring in new guys off the street to fill all the top slots. That's the real problem here. We are a very specialized law enforcement agency and every two years we get new people running the ship with very little senior leadership in place.

For those of us that have worked other places can you even imagine the uproar if the chief appointed a new employee as sgt or even detective without them doing time on the road. It just doesn't happen.

That process ensures that the guys on the road may have a chance of getting off. If the specialty units were always filled by friends from other agencies a lot of the road patrol would go elsewhere and I think that is why we have a %25 yearly turnover rate.

When you look at our job, no one should be leaving. People should be staying until they retire. On the face of it this is so much better than humping calls on the road. It's the internal irritants that causes people to leave. Don't say it's the money because we all knew the pay sucked when we started. People say it's the money because they realize the meager pay is not worth the agravation.

I differ with you...appointments does happen everywhere. The sheriff replaces people regardless of rank even if you look at them wrong, especially when they first arrive with NO EXPERIENCE and just a POPULAR vote. Been there, done that and got axed for it! So I must differ your opinion. Also what ABT does more than anything is GRIPE and the other duties we do is boderlining on and off of police work...its more or less regulation. So save us the PO PO philosophy it does not work with those of us who really know what we do and I think everyone who is employed with us deserves a faif shake and a little support! Jealously is a difficult thing to admit to!

I have to agree with the first posting, you can not keep filling all the top positions with people that have no ABT experiance. I know most the agents want to do police work except for the slug nuts that want to be inspectors. But reality is we were all excieted when the DS came to all our offices and said we are going to get back into police work, investigations, the root problem of the licensed premises. That didn't last long, because the new director, as I hear it hasn't changed from when she was an agent. She want the priorty to be minors, minors, and more minors. She is obviously not concerned with enforcing the law but only with the administrative process. It is so evident during her meeting in Gainsville when she was talking about task forces, she said and I quote, If one of our agents get shot in a grow house, what do I say to the industry." Give me a break, that just shows you the mentality. First why are we telling the industry anything involving criminal investigations, in cases someone forgot that is a misdemeanor in the state of florida. Also, what does she mean tell the industry, what about saying the cops a hero, or what do I tell his/her family. So for all you Law Enforcement enthusists get ready to work your minors, and conduct your cases as long as it doesn't inpact the industry. Now if you want to do some real Police Work, join your local PD, or Sheriffs office, make a case on a licensed premises and call ABT for assistance. Sorry I call it like I see it.

If you and the DS and others want to work as policemen there are hundreds of agencies that need you. I belive the director's message is clear, we are alcoholic beverages and tobacco and that is the only task force we need to be on! Dont get me wrong..we can assist others and do joint investigations however our primary is alcoholic beverages and tobacco. PS Alachua County and Gainesville PD are hiring!

I have to disagree with the two previous posters.

Even at the SO they may replace your assignment but I have never seen a captain or major let go when the new sheriff comes to town. They may get moved around but never fired. Also I have never heard of a sheriff apointing friends to Captain level positions.

Next, who thinks an ABT agents time is better spent arresting an underage drinker rather than being on a task force? Especially where an ABT's agent experience can be useful in tracking money from a convenience store with terrorist ties. I didn't know we were limited to two sections of the statute book.

That makes no sense. Would you dare think that way 7 years ago. How quickly we forget.

I have to disagree with the two previous posters.

Even at the SO they may replace your assignment but I have never seen a captain or major let go when the new sheriff comes to town. They may get moved around but never fired. Also I have never heard of a sheriff apointing friends to Captain level positions.

Next, who thinks an ABT agents time is better spent arresting an underage drinker rather than being on a task force? Especially where an ABT's agent experience can be useful in tracking money from a convenience store with terrorist ties. I didn't know we were limited to two sections of the statute book.

That makes no sense. Would you dare think that way 7 years ago. How quickly we forget.

You are misguided must be a new one from a sheriffs office. A small sheriffs office at that cause people at all levels are replaced by "friends" its life and does not matter as long as they meet the qualifications for the job. Read statute..read the reason this Division was created and what they should be doing..by law...which was revised in 2006...you will find the answer at last. Now. if you dont want to do the job then go to the other agencies task with the duties you are referring to!

I don't know about appt. friends and stuff but your new Director is right you are a regulatory agency with restricted law enforcement powers. Minors, you better work minors and other beverage related misds., along with admin. cases. There already is other law enforcement agency's to work all kinds of criminal work. Your's and the divisions only chance to exist as you are is to work minors and beverage laws, with assistance to other agency's as asked. You are here only because politicains and the industry want you, if you don't believe it you are very foolish. The best thing for someone to say about ABT is WHO?????? Keep them guessing for your survival.

This issue should really be discussed (at length) at every basic beverage class and every in service class. I will take a few minutes (before stopping by Lowes) to explain it to you now.

The Division of Alcoholic Beverages and Tobacco is a regulatory agency with law enforcement authority. This law enforcement authority is granted to allow employees of the Division of Alcoholic Beverages and Tobacco the means necessary to enforce the statutes know collectively as "beverage law." If you are still confused, take a look at your "beverage law" book. Gear your enforcement efforts toward the statutes enumerated within that book. If you want to do something else, please move on.

Other law enforcement to work the "fringe" ABT activity. Who are you kidding.

Most LE agencies are 911 driven. They don't care about ties to terrorism, people supplying alcohol to kids if it doesn't happen in front of them, fake id's (they don't even know it's a felony), and other assorted ABT work that you say is not part of our mission.

Guess what folks it's the 21st century and our world has changed. It's not 1950 anymore and we aren't looking for gin mills. The most important thing any LE can focuss on is domestic terrorism within their purview. There were terrorists living in Hollywood. There are currently terrorist supporters all over South Florida with ABT issued licenses. Don't you think it's a bit more important that the store clerk is sending money overseas for these purposes as opposed to him selling to an underage kid. After 9/11 (the terrorist attacks since so many of you seemed to have forgotten) changed the way we live. Every department needs to look at what they can do within their jurisdiction to fight domestic terrorists. Don't rely upon the CIA or FBI to protect your own back yard. That's our job as local/state police.

We can still do both. There are two guys in SF assigned to JTTF. I think the rest of us can handle working minors while these two fight domestic terrorists.

I guess many of you are too young or too old to remember 9/11. I'm right in the middle and I remember. You all don't know how close we have come to further attacks. Lucky for me you guys are doing minor work while they supply the funds to fight another 9/11.

Keep up the vital ABT job. Keep those blinders on. "Keep up your numbers" even though we are doing away with KPI's.

If anyone wants to read the real ABT Administrative Manual read "Animal Farm".

I am curious. Do you think FWC, FHP, DOT, SFM, AG LAW are concerned about assigning investigators full-time to task forces? There may be a couple, but it really isn't something that concerns them. How much money has FDLE given ABT to fund positions on the DTTF's? What federal money pours in to fund our participation in JTTF's? Best I can figure - none. People much smarter than you and I have figured that you don't need an ABT LEI II in order to investigate links to terrorism and licensees of DBPR. You don't need ABT to follow the money back to some third world crap hole.
You do need ABT to make an admin case though. Put down your copy of Terrorism Today and get to work.

KPI's aren't going away either.

?? while I do not agree with everything you wrote,I do agree with the fact that we need to be vigilant when it comes to domestic terrorism. We were told in basic beverage that 540 million dollars was sent from Florida to terrorist organizations all over the world. That the Division licensed the uncle and cousin of the leader of Hamas. The 9/11 terrorist trained in Venice Florida and flew out of the international airport in Southwest Florida to carry out the plot. Along with beverage law we need to focus on p[laces that fund and support terrorist, like the Mom and Pop stores. I for one would be glad to take up the slack of the two agents assigned to JTTF.

You know how terrorists were able to send all that money back to the sewers they crawled out of? They were free to conduct their business without ABT interference. I bet there aren't 20 agents in the whole state that can conduct a real inspection. We issue licenses without conducting any real investigation. The fact the prints come back clean isn't reason to issue a license.

Thanks for the update on KPI's not going away. I think we all figured that out after Drago spends 2 months talking about how they are going away and then Cindi moves Jerry's hand to tell everyone to work on their "numbers".

Glad to see the more things change the more they stay the same.

After the email from the chief came out I surprised all of the task force guys dont just quit. thats the new mission statement and direction, what a slap in the face, have they even looked into any of the task forces, do they have a clue what the hell is going on and who was the ending comment directed at, sounds like the chief took a shot at the only two Majors that really know what their doing. hows everybodys holiday parties going, appears more ink directed at those issues than any real concern of this dept. does the word clueless come to mind. drago, if you read this please pay more attention to the direction. we heard you are an old task force guy. the JTTF guys should just quit and go where they are more respected does the word demoralizing come to mind. I hear about the stats every month, arent we doing enough minors. i heard that majors PR and Dec. bust their asses working minors and they are always talking up the ABT every where they go. I wonder what support they are gettin. I glad i am an agent wouldnt take a promotion here for nothin what the hell is our real direction, whats that noise is it ABT going down the drain or is it the sound of a run away train going no where.

After the email from the chief came out I surprised all of the task force guys dont just quit. thats the new mission statement and direction, what a slap in the face, have they even looked into any of the task forces, do they have a clue what the hell is going on and who was the ending comment directed at, sounds like the chief took a shot at the only two Majors that really know what their doing. hows everybodys holiday parties going, appears more ink directed at those issues than any real concern of this dept. does the word clueless come to mind. drago, if you read this please pay more attention to the direction. we heard you are an old task force guy. the JTTF guys should just quit and go where they are more respected does the word demoralizing come to mind. I hear about the stats every month, arent we doing enough minors. i heard that majors PR and Dec. bust their asses working minors and they are always talking up the ABT every where they go. I wonder what support they are gettin. I glad i am an agent wouldnt take a promotion here for nothin what the hell is our real direction, whats that noise is it ABT going down the drain or is it the sound of a run away train going no where.

Weezie? You mean Sleezie...go apply if you want a different job.

Other law enforcement to work the "fringe" ABT activity. Who are you kidding.

Most LE agencies are 911 driven. They don't care about ties to terrorism, people supplying alcohol to kids if it doesn't happen in front of them, fake id's (they don't even know it's a felony), and other assorted ABT work that you say is not part of our mission.

Guess what folks it's the 21st century and our world has changed. It's not 1950 anymore and we aren't looking for gin mills. The most important thing any LE can focuss on is domestic terrorism within their purview. There were terrorists living in Hollywood. There are currently terrorist supporters all over South Florida with ABT issued licenses. Don't you think it's a bit more important that the store clerk is sending money overseas for these purposes as opposed to him selling to an underage kid. After 9/11 (the terrorist attacks since so many of you seemed to have forgotten) changed the way we live. Every department needs to look at what they can do within their jurisdiction to fight domestic terrorists. Don't rely upon the CIA or FBI to protect your own back yard. That's our job as local/state police.

We can still do both. There are two guys in SF assigned to JTTF. I think the rest of us can handle working minors while these two fight domestic terrorists.

I guess many of you are too young or too old to remember 9/11. I'm right in the middle and I remember. You all don't know how close we have come to further attacks. Lucky for me you guys are doing minor work while they supply the funds to fight another 9/11.

Keep up the vital ABT job. Keep those blinders on. "Keep up your numbers" even though we are doing away with KPI's.

If anyone wants to read the real ABT Administrative Manual read "Animal Farm".

It is obvious you are on the clock...so get to work!

The email from the Chief was long overdue. I think the direction we are headed is the only one that makes sense. We regulate the alcohol and tobacco industries. All you "task force" members - welcome back to ABT. To those of you that don't like the new direction - do the best surveys, inspections, training sessions and community outreach you can do. The agency deserves nothing less and maybe someone will have something good to say about you later. This will be important when you start looking for another job. I know someone with this agency that was fond of saying "Some people came to work for an hourly wage. I came to work for the Division." Feel free to use it in your next promotional interview.

The email from the Chief was long overdue. I think the direction we are headed is the only one that makes sense. We regulate the alcohol and tobacco industries. All you "task force" members - welcome back to ABT. To those of you that don't like the new direction - do the best surveys, inspections, training sessions and community outreach you can do. The agency deserves nothing less and maybe someone will have something good to say about you later. This will be important when you start looking for another job. I know someone with this agency that was fond of saying "Some people came to work for an hourly wage. I came to work for the Division." Feel free to use it in your next promotional interview.
Excellent quote !!
I bet you are ready to be promoted to a Specialist II.....
You don't need a badge or gun for what you do everyday..

That really is the beauty of this job, isn't it? I may not need a badge or gun but I have it. Think about it numbnuts. We aren't dodging cars on the interstate. We aren't humping it from call to call. We aren't fighting drunks or spending our off days sitting in court. We have it made.
Oh sure, we have to count chairs and write tickets to kids for smoking. Every now and then we even have to send a kid into a store on a survey. Think about this...right now, there is a uniformed police officer on his 27th call of the night, on his (or her) way to the jail with another 10-15. You know what he is thinking? How do I get one of those cushy positions with the State? You are right my friend. I may not need a gun or a badge, but having them gives me high hazard retirement and a nice check every other friday. It gives me weekends and holidays off. No shift work. No one giving me a dose of crap every time I turn around. This is the best job in law enforcement, that would be even better without folks like you.

I rarely say anything on this site but I have to respond to this looser. Best job in police work, obviously how would you know you have never done a day of police work in your life. All those call humping, road partol, detective bureaus of real law enforcement agencies is the backbone of police work. When I became a cop, I did it for the job, the police work, not for the cushy benefits you talk about. Your a real ass to minimize the duties of every day police work, when real cops are fighting crime and dying on the streets in Florida. Your the one that needs a new job, hopefully one where people like you are not certifed.

Guest 2 - I have forgotten more about "real" police work than you will ever know. No one is minimizing the duties of a "real" police officer. You would know and understand that if you had any ability to read and comprehend. Next time you are in Barnes & Noble, take a look at a dictionary. Look up sarcasm, then use it in a sentence. Now go get me a double french latte - punk.

Unbelieveable, there seems to be an awful lot of energy spent on blasting one another here. Way too much infighting for me. If anyone reads this stuff and has any desdire to apply to become one of you they are really in trouble. I would only hope that all this anonymty stays here and doesn't invade the workplace.....

I rarely say anything on this site but I have to respond to this looser. Best job in police work, obviously how would you know you have never done a day of police work in your life. All those call humping, road partol, detective bureaus of real law enforcement agencies is the backbone of police work. When I became a cop, I did it for the job, the police work, not for the cushy benefits you talk about. Your a real ass to minimize the duties of every day police work, when real cops are fighting crime and dying on the streets in Florida. Your the one that needs a new job, hopefully one where people like you are not certifed.

I watched a show on Tv awhile back. I think it was called "The Profiler." I will use what I learrned from the show to complete your 'profile."
White Male, 24-32 years old, high school graduate, less than 3 years law enforcement experience, suffers from AADD, repressed sexual development, no verifiable sense of humor, has "Training Day" on CD and is does not tolerate the opinions of others. There are safe and beneficial medications for treating your problems. Here is a thought - instead of spending $25.00 on swat magazines, use that money for a doctor's visit. I think it should cover your co-pay. While you are there, se if there is something you can take to develop your sense of humor. Good Luck.

That really is the beauty of this job, isn't it? I may not need a badge or gun but I have it. Think about it numbnuts. We aren't dodging cars on the interstate. We aren't humping it from call to call. We aren't fighting drunks or spending our off days sitting in court. We have it made.
Oh sure, we have to count chairs and write tickets to kids for smoking. Every now and then we even have to send a kid into a store on a survey. Think about this...right now, there is a uniformed police officer on his 27th call of the night, on his (or her) way to the jail with another 10-15. You know what he is thinking? How do I get one of those cushy positions with the State? You are right my friend. I may not need a gun or a badge, but having them gives me high hazard retirement and a nice check every other friday. It gives me weekends and holidays off. No shift work. No one giving me a dose of crap every time I turn around. This is the best job in law enforcement, that would be even better without folks like you.

AMEN BROTHER !!!

I rarely say anything on this site but I have to respond to this looser. Best job in police work, obviously how would you know you have never done a day of police work in your life. All those call humping, road partol, detective bureaus of real law enforcement agencies is the backbone of police work. When I became a cop, I did it for the job, the police work, not for the cushy benefits you talk about. Your a real ass to minimize the duties of every day police work, when real cops are fighting crime and dying on the streets in Florida. Your the one that needs a new job, hopefully one where people like you are not certifed.

Umm..... hello.... Corky? He wasn't minimizing police work, he was simply saying how good we have it here. If you want to hump calls go do it, you want to make arrest be my guess. I like this job, it's great. So for all of you who don't... leave, pack your trash and head out the door. Don't let the door hit you where the good lord split you.

Maybe hoglund wasn't that bad after all !!!

I love this Guest guy he keeps writing and answering himself, the first sign of senility. I'am sure you are real versed in police work,probably made a misdemeanor arrest or two in your life. Sorry I made you so angry if the truth hurts oh well, because there is no way a true cop would talk the way you do. But what do I know I'm a punk, thats what the subejcts usually say to cops that work the beat. True, the best you could come back with is "find another job", thats the goal of loosers, get the real crime fighters out of here, so they don't make us loosers really look like loosers. Anyway I don't want to take up any more of your time, I'm sure you have a major Tied House Evil case waiting for you.

Hi Guest 2,
You might want to get that dictionary 10-18. The word you are thinking of is "Loser" not "Looser."
Happy Holidays

[quote="Guest 2"]I rarely say anything on this site

That is where you should have left it. It could be that the only purpose of your life is to serve as a warning to others.

Hey Looser or loser means the same in your case, keep posting its the only thing your good at anyway. Probably do more writing on these posts then you ever did on any police reports.

All this bickering reminds me of something an uneducated, dirty, smelly, stupid scumbag said a few years ago:

"Can't we all just get along?"


“Rascality has its limits, but stupidity
has none.”
~Napolean

I like my job, I really do... enough said

After the email from the chief came out I surprised all of the task force guys dont just quit. thats the new mission statement and direction, what a slap in the face, have they even looked into any of the task forces, do they have a clue what the hell is going on and who was the ending comment directed at, sounds like the chief took a shot at the only two Majors that really know what their doing. hows everybodys holiday parties going, appears more ink directed at those issues than any real concern of this dept. does the word clueless come to mind. drago, if you read this please pay more attention to the direction. we heard you are an old task force guy. the JTTF guys should just quit and go where they are more respected does the word demoralizing come to mind. I hear about the stats every month, arent we doing enough minors. i heard that majors PR and Dec. bust their asses working minors and they are always talking up the ABT every where they go. I wonder what support they are gettin. I glad i am an agent wouldnt take a promotion here for nothin what the hell is our real direction, whats that noise is it ABT going down the drain or is it the sound of a run away train going no where.

Which two Majors know what they are doing? Don't you guys at ABT only have two Majors? I heard the one in North Florida is a Sergeant acting as a Major. Did he get the job? And if so how did he go from a Sergeant to Major? Because he was acting in it? Confused?

He still acting in it. :shock:

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From 2007 and still true today. This is the best job in the state and I will put up with spreadsheets, inept carpetbagger supervision, thirty-something tools with useless law degrees, 12 year old laptops running Windows 7 and anything else to keep it.




That really is the beauty of this job, isn't it? I may not need a badge or gun but I have it. Think about it numb-nuts. We aren't dodging cars on the interstate. We aren't humping it from call to call. We aren't fighting drunks or spending our off days sitting in court. We have it made.
Oh sure, we have to count chairs and write tickets to kids for smoking. Every now and then we even have to send a kid into a store on a survey. Think about this...right now, there is a uniformed police officer on his 27th call of the night, on his (or her) way to the jail with another 10-15. You know what he is thinking? How do I get one of those cushy positions with the State? You are right my friend. I may not need a gun or a badge, but having them gives me high hazard retirement and a nice check every other Friday. It gives me weekends and holidays off. No shift work. No one giving me a dose of crap every time I turn around. This is the best job in law enforcement, that would be even better without folks like you.

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I agree it’s the best job ever but they over complicate things that don’t need to be. And they need to stop calling us members!

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I agree it’s the best job ever but they over complicate things that don’t need to be. And they need to stop calling us members!

Yep. Being called a member is a DBPR thing. It is a stupid as calling the people we deal with customers. That is what happens with civilian oversight. Millennial civilian oversight is the worst.

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I would just like a major that was a real cop. At the mention of anything other than possession and surveys They get scared and ask a million questions then find a million reasons why we shouldn’t do it.

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I would just like a major that was a real cop. At the mention of anything other than possession and surveys They get scared and ask a million questions then find a million reasons why we shouldn’t do it.

What would you rather do? Shake down the Greatest Generation at the VFW? By male enhancement pills from Mo at the Petro Mart? Fake Nikes? How about going deep undercover to corral those fake Beyonce cd's? now that is time worth spending! The major's are the only thing stopping the insanity of TCO from dripping down to you. Learn it. Live it. Love it. 20.165 is your friend.

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I’m pretty sure Tampa is the only one shaking down the VFW these days, and I know there also the only ones chasing penis pills

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I would just like a major that was a real cop. At the mention of anything other than possession and surveys They get scared and ask a million questions then find a million reasons why we shouldn’t do it.

Go to a real cop agency then to find what you desire. Maybe the answer is in 20.165. We are not DEA or a local street crimes unit. Figure it out or be miserable. It’s that simple

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I would just like a major that was a real cop. At the mention of anything other than possession and surveys They get scared and ask a million questions then find a million reasons why we shouldn’t do it.

I wish the Majors (both) had been real cops as well but not for the same reasons as you. By the way, get ready because more surveys are in your future.

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I wish the Majors (both) had been real cops as well but not for the same reasons as you. By the way, get ready because more surveys are in your future.

I think it is great that we finally have a director that not only can read, but actually understands what he is reading. 20.165 is real clear. Maybe by doing more surveys we wont have time to harass war heroes at the Am Vets. Maybe by doing more surveys we can spend less time keeping male enhancement pills out of the hands of seniors. Maybe and this is a big one - maybe we can focus on the BEVERAGE LAW!! Don't attempt to school me on the fact that violations in a premises are actually violations of Beverage Law. Those of us that can read and comprehend know that is a stretch on the best of days. Maybe this will help - this is not a police agency with broad enforcement authority and responsibility. This is a regulatory agency charged with the enforcement of the BEVERAGE LAW. There is a reason your badge reads ALCOHOLIC BEVERAGES and TOBACCO not STATE POLICE. The truth shouldn't hurt. It should be a catharsis for your soul.

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I think it is great that we finally have a director that not only can read, but actually understands what he is reading. 20.165 is real clear. Maybe by doing more surveys we wont have time to harass war heroes at the Am Vets. Maybe by doing more surveys we can spend less time keeping male enhancement pills out of the hands of seniors. Maybe and this is a big one - maybe we can focus on the BEVERAGE LAW!! Don't attempt to school me on the fact that violations in a premises are actually violations of Beverage Law. Those of us that can read and comprehend know that is a stretch on the best of days. Maybe this will help - this is not a police agency with broad enforcement authority and responsibility. This is a regulatory agency charged with the enforcement of the BEVERAGE LAW. There is a reason your badge reads ALCOHOLIC BEVERAGES and TOBACCO not STATE POLICE. The truth shouldn't hurt. It should be a catharsis for your soul.

Keeping licensed premesis in compliance is what we do. We should never pass a felony. PERIOD. If you have ever worked as a LEO outside of ABT you would know the locals don't give two dingle berry's about misdemeanors in a WaWa.

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Keeping licensed premesis in compliance is what we do. We should never pass a felony. PERIOD. If you have ever worked as a LEO outside of ABT you would know the locals don't give two dingle berry's about misdemeanors in a WaWa.

Locals don't care about activity at WaWa because we do. They can pass on beverage law stuff because we will handle it. I think there are several statutes, felonies included, that require a law enforcement officer to act. In progress felonies would be at the top of that list. Spending hundreds of dollars and hundreds of hours to get a gambling search warrant? Not a good use of anyone's time especially when we are the complainant. General vice crimes are best handled by the locals.

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This is not a knock any one administration here at ABT.

Take a look at everyone at the top at ABT including some Captains. (except Roberts)

Now pull up the website of any major police department.

Compare the backgrounds of the two. The glaring difference is that the admin at police departments have worked their way on up from the rank and file. As chief or sherrif you may be able to bring in your number 2 but don't think you will bring in new guys off the street to fill all the top slots. That's the real problem here. We are a very specialized law enforcement agency and every two years we get new people running the ship with very little senior leadership in place.

For those of us that have worked other places can you even imagine the uproar if the chief appointed a new employee as sgt or even detective without them doing time on the road. It just doesn't happen.

That process ensures that the guys on the road may have a chance of getting off. If the specialty units were always filled by friends from other agencies a lot of the road patrol would go elsewhere and I think that is why we have a %25 yearly turnover rate.

When you look at our job, no one should be leaving. People should be staying until they retire. On the face of it this is so much better than humping calls on the road. It's the internal irritants that causes people to leave. Don't say it's the money because we all knew the pay sucked when we started. People say it's the money because they realize the meager pay is not worth the agravation.
Now look what we got years later This place can't get any worse. I hope.