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10-05-2007, 08:41 PM
Just heard from IT that the Herald-Tribune is asking for more laptop and desk computer files from several members.

All those that jumped on Hill should be thinking now--did I ever put anything on my computer? Last week? last month? Last year? 5 years ago?

I told you this was not about Hill. Its the Herald-Tribune going after ALL law enforcement. The citizens are with us and hate this type of reporting.

Let you voice be heard about constant fishing, name assasination and LEO bashing. You are next!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

editor.letters@heraldtribune.com

10-05-2007, 09:24 PM
Why are you so paranoid. Maybe its not about the officers but about the cover ups by admin. The top admin at these departments should not be trying to cover any wrong doings. Maybe its just time that someone is finally taking a stand and expose the corruption that has been there for years. If you did something wrong, oh well. Pay the price like the public does when they do wrong. Maybe there will be a "major" change soon. It is a shame that there are many good officers and some admin that have to put up with the dirty ones.

Why would anyone cover for another officer when they are clearly wrong. I will help out any fellow officer, but when you put my career in jepardy, you just did the wrong thing!

10-05-2007, 10:26 PM
I think its not about Admin (sounds like a political post to me) or anyone who may have done wrong.

I think its how the paper listens to rumors or trys to mess with people who their sources tell them to mess with.

Hey today your computer tomorrow your personel file then maybe your bank account (I know they can't get that) but where does it stop?

I am going to start a rumor about you and then you can try to defend yourelf against them. Don't make any difference if you are innocent or not. They have no ethics and if they are going after you they will.

Look at what they did to the two who were accused of beating up that homeless guy and they were completely innocent.

So I agree 100 percent its time we did something about the HT. Call the Publisher!!!!!!!!!!!

10-05-2007, 11:10 PM
Do you not get it. You have people that are supossed to be enforcing laws and have the potential to ruin someones life by the choice they make on the street. They are not making the right choices in their own life so what gives them the right to decide someone else's fate. They are making wrong choices. These people targeted in a story are not making the right choices based on simple rules and public respect. If you cannot follow simple rules, you should not be in a police department postion. Why shouldn't the Herald Tribune report that? Your job is all public record, not your bank account. And by the way, the Lt being targeted has acessed bank records of other officers during his internals so you think your safe? Think again.

10-05-2007, 11:22 PM
MOD you should delete this thread. This sounds like the Trib is fishing again.

10-06-2007, 01:28 AM
Thats right, delete it because its not going your way. What terms have been violated besides BPD's feelings and cover up?

10-06-2007, 03:11 AM
I just read the TOS I cant seem to find ANY violations in this whole thread!!! Free speach People.....Just because we dont like the topic doesnt mean it should be banished!

10-06-2007, 07:56 AM
I just had all my emails pulled last week. Did I do any thing wrong, no but the paper is on a fishing expedition. Unfortunately any thing you do on a city computer is subject to public records laws. Also any work related stuff you do on your personal computer is subject to disclosure.

DOES ANY ONE REMEMBER READING THIS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Law Enforcement Code of Ethics

As a law enforcement officer, my fundamental duty is to serve the community; to safeguard lives and property; to protect the innocent against deception, the weak against oppression or intimidation and the peaceful against violence or disorder; and to respect the constitutional rights of all to liberty, equality and justice.
I will keep my private life unsullied as an example to all and will behave in a manner that does not bring discredit to me or to my agency. I will maintain courageous calm in the face of danger, scorn or ridicule; develop self-restraint; and be constantly mindful of the welfare of others. Honest in thought and deed both in my personal and official life, I will be exemplary in obeying the law and the regulations of my department. Whatever I see or hear of a confidential nature or that is confided to me in my official capacity will be kept ever secret unless revelation is necessary in the performance of my duty.

I will never act officiously or permit personal feelings, prejudices, political beliefs, aspirations, animosities or friendships to influence my decisions. With no compromise for crime and with relentless prosecution of criminals, I will enforce the law courteously and appropriately without fear or favor, malice or ill will, never employing unnecessary force or violence and never accepting gratuities.

I recognize the badge of my office as a symbol of public faith, and I accept it as a public trust to be held so long as I am true to the ethics of police service. I will never engage in acts of corruption or bribery, nor will I condone such acts by other police officers. I will cooperate with all legally authorized agencies and their representatives in the pursuit of justice.

I know that I alone am responsible for my own standard of professional performance and will take every reasonable opportunity to enhance and improve my level of knowledge and competence.

I will constantly strive to achieve these objectives and ideals, dedicating myself before God to my chosen profession . . . law enforcement.

10-06-2007, 11:16 AM
Two years ago uncle ned sent me an email that he should not have.

I can't remember if I erased it.

10-06-2007, 11:39 AM
your only next if you did something wrong.

my question is Who is the leak that is telling the HT about all this to make them go fishing?

10-06-2007, 12:21 PM
We all can sit here and think we did nothing wrong.

It's that Uncle Ned's email you forgot about that is going to get you.

10-06-2007, 01:34 PM
i've read the articles in the newspapers and i still am having difficulty understanding some things. if the chief heard rumors going around about porno on hill's computer, then why wasn't the rumors looked into? if plice officers knew for a fact that porno was on hill's computer, then why wasn't that reported. they, that knew about the porno, are just as guilty for not telling about it. a man with 20 years of service just doesn't up and quit and decide to open a sign painting business. that doesn't cut it and doesn't make sense. a few classes under his belt and he paints nude pics of women..okay. but why are the pics on his department computer? because he is showing everyone. why is that being overlooked. regardless if the man is gone or not, he should not be able to collect his pension for the misdoings he has done. i think your department is missing the boat on some issues here and this should all be looked into much farther. what made him quit abruptly right after the prostitutes admission of officers having sex. something else is going on here. lets get real and look into what is realling going on in this instance.

10-06-2007, 02:25 PM
Don't we start sentences with a capital letter?

10-06-2007, 02:29 PM
I just had all my emails pulled last week. Did I do any thing wrong, no but the paper is on a fishing expedition. Unfortunately any thing you do on a city computer is subject to public records laws. Also any work related stuff you do on your personal computer is subject to disclosure.

DOES ANY ONE REMEMBER READING THIS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Law Enforcement Code of Ethics

As a law enforcement officer, my fundamental duty is to serve the community; to safeguard lives and property; to protect the innocent against deception, the weak against oppression or intimidation and the peaceful against violence or disorder; and to respect the constitutional rights of all to liberty, equality and justice.
I will keep my private life unsullied as an example to all and will behave in a manner that does not bring discredit to me or to my agency. I will maintain courageous calm in the face of danger, scorn or ridicule; develop self-restraint; and be constantly mindful of the welfare of others. Honest in thought and deed both in my personal and official life, I will be exemplary in obeying the law and the regulations of my department. Whatever I see or hear of a confidential nature or that is confided to me in my official capacity will be kept ever secret unless revelation is necessary in the performance of my duty.

I will never act officiously or permit personal feelings, prejudices, political beliefs, aspirations, animosities or friendships to influence my decisions. With no compromise for crime and with relentless prosecution of criminals, I will enforce the law courteously and appropriately without fear or favor, malice or ill will, never employing unnecessary force or violence and never accepting gratuities.

I recognize the badge of my office as a symbol of public faith, and I accept it as a public trust to be held so long as I am true to the ethics of police service. I will never engage in acts of corruption or bribery, nor will I condone such acts by other police officers. I will cooperate with all legally authorized agencies and their representatives in the pursuit of justice.

I know that I alone am responsible for my own standard of professional performance and will take every reasonable opportunity to enhance and improve my level of knowledge and competence.

I will constantly strive to achieve these objectives and ideals, dedicating myself before God to my chosen profession . . . law enforcement.
The problem is, there are very few that follow this including the chief for allowing it. Turn this department around and follow those rules. If the current officers don't want to, then get new ones that will. A lot of times the only way to change old habits is to start over. Why was the dept never like this back in the 90's. Because we had fear back then and supervisiors that did something about your actions. Now they are all pencil pushers with no on the road supervision.

10-06-2007, 02:40 PM
I remember Lt Resch would set up a thin string across business driveways and go back later to check that string and see if you close patrolled that business in yor zone. He would also have a radar unit and check your speed. If you didn't do your job or didn't follow the rules, you heard about it. That was when you had respect for your supervisiors. We may have thought he was a ****, but he did his job and kept his people in line. Maybe we need to go back to the old way as the new way isn't working. We used to have "contests" between the zone officers on who found the most doors unlocked on midnights or who put the most mileage on patroling their zone. It may sound stupid but we did our job to the best of our ability and it was recognized also by the admin. High tech is not always better but it certainly looks like the supervision has suffered due to overwhelming paperwork and "stats" for the chief. Are the stats that important that we have to have these problems because of it.

10-06-2007, 04:05 PM
guest above,

very well said. back in the good ole days, we did not have this many problems.

MOD 342
10-06-2007, 08:36 PM
As far as deleting threads, well, I have a checks and balances policy (its my policy, not LEO Affairs), so I have asked MOD 1 to look into it as well. At this point the only thing that I see are posts with opinions. Yes I am aware of what I have read, I need to be fair to all who are involved which includes the opinions/ facts of those who post. I'm gonna let it ride until I hear from MOD 1 on possible violations, if any.
This is not a closed website just for LEO's, the public (and reporters) reads them as well and since they pay our salary we do have to govern ourselves on and off duty as we live in a glass house. This is the job we wanted, so we all must govern ourselves accordingly. Be safe.