12 HR. SHIFTS

FYI FOR THOSE OF YOU WHO DO NOT KNOW 12 HRS. SHIFTS EFFECTIVE 10/10/07. ANY FEED BACK OUT THERE???? :?:

FYI FOR THOSE OF YOU WHO DO NOT KNOW 12 HRS. SHIFTS EFFECTIVE 10/10/07. ANY FEED BACK OUT THERE???? :?:

12-hour shifts are necessary when a department must mobilize to meet the urgencies posed by a natural or man made disaster. However, beyond a limited and necessary period, 12-hour shifts are mentally and physically erosive, triggering its own diminishing return cycle. With officer safety being its primary consequence. Take for instance travel to and from work and additional hours add up to the officer's wake hours. Should that officer work the afternoon or midnight shifts, and court time is involved, additional hours beyond travel accrued and rest is diminished proportionally. On paper, a 12-hour shift may sound good, however it is when it's put in effect, that its failings become evident!

[quote="SLEEPY LEO":2y1ntfel]FYI FOR THOSE OF YOU WHO DO NOT KNOW 12 HRS. SHIFTS EFFECTIVE 10/10/07. ANY FEED BACK OUT THERE???? :?:

12-hour shifts are necessary when a department must mobilize to meet the urgencies posed by a natural or man made disaster. However, beyond a limited and necessary period, 12-hour shifts are mentally and physically erosive, triggering its own diminishing return cycle. With officer safety being its primary consequence. Take for instance travel to and from work and additional hours add up to the officer's wake hours. Should that officer work the afternoon or midnight shifts, and court time is involved, additional hours beyond travel accrued and rest is diminished proportionally. On paper, a 12-hour shift may sound good, however it is when it's put in effect, that its failings become evident![/quote:2y1ntfel]

Couldnt be further from the truth, I have read so many of these damn threads since I found this site a week ago, my eyes are going buggy! I have come to the conclusion that nobody seems to like where they work and they all gripe, the grass is NOT always greener on the other side! However, after reading some of your PD post here, I must comment for the first time.
I have worked 8, 10 and 12 hr shifts... I prefer the 12hr. Fact is you generally will have every other fri/sat/sun off to spend w/ your family. Unless your humping calls (which I dont think you are), the shift shouldnt be hard to deal with.
I was trying to find the diff between your PD and that of the Seminoles, seems like you have pretty low moral there, although I dont see a thread here for them. I spoke with an ofc there and found that they work 12 hr shifts, make good start salary, have plenty of well paid detail work and an unheard of take home plan. Only downside would be the lack of Union and the lack of real retierment which is vital for the younger guys these days.
Good luck with your moral, sounds like things can only get better... grass is NOT always greener folks, work out the kinks... maybe some of you should read the nonsense on some of these other blogs through-out Fla, its sad that officers would do that to each other.... I dont ever remember it being this bad. Seems like they only band together for a fallen brother, then its back to backstabbing again. I guess I just dont see where it all went off track.

The 12 hour shift is not healthy. Your health is more important than getting off extra weekends. You may not think that way now, but later it will catch up. Not worth it. Some dept's have been sued because officers work 12 to 18 hrs. and don't sleep. Doctors have proven driving without sleep is just as bad as DUI. 12 hour shifts are a big liability to the officer and the dept. What we like is sometimes not good for us.

Thought you were a cop, back in the day that meant you were tough. Many people out there have to work 2-3 jobs, many more than 12 hrs long in order to make ends meet. You got a job that many out there wish they could have but cant.... It is just amazing to me how weak todays cop is compared to the way it used to be. Hey, if you wanted a comfortable job maybe you should have seeked a different route. Your comment makes no sense... people work 8hr shifts, then go out or do other things lasting at least 4 hrs all the time.
The average person sleeps 6-8 hrs (if lucky). That leaves 16-18 hrs of being awake... if you cant handle working 12 of them then maybe you need a new diet and workout plan to stay healthier. I worked 12 hr shifts for a couple years and I did just fine, as did those that worked with me. I will admit that the day shift is much easier than night, but thats life and thats the career I chose! By the way, when you work a 12, your only working half the month.... much better deal!

[MOD 456]

Pretty interesting comments, I have also worked 12's in the past it does take it's toll on the body after time I have to believe that this will only be temp. for us. the unfortunate part is that we are not working what you would call a "true 12 schedule" one week will be 3 12's + 1 8 next week will be 3 12's. days off wed-sat or sun-tue. not to bad. In all honesty Seminole is a bit better and benny's they have more of but other than that same B.S. I to have read many post's here bout other agencies and it's sad I would love to swap jobs so they can see how good they have it....

Why not just work a 4-10 shift?

Fact of the matter is, every agency is hurting down there. Standards are set so high that nobody seems to qualify for the job, now those standards are dropping. Anyone with a decent track record at your agency stands a good chance at moving on, its the morons that cant handle the job where they are and make foolish mistakes that cant move on. Its been said a million times, we are our own worse enemy.
Life is not easy anywhere out there, you wont find the perfect police job where everything is just peachy, how you handle yourself where you are is a good sign of your intestinal fortitude.
I personally thought that the indians were making a ton of money on the casinos down there, why is none of the money getting funneled to the pd?

[MOD 456]

we are on 4-10's now we are losing staff to fast our only option is 12's. You are right alot of agencies are being a little less picky in there candidates but others are still as picky. Just like there is no perfect PD to work for it's the same for PO's no one is perfect 99.9% have something in there background and like most of my fellow officers I to am processing it just takes time.

we are on 4-10's now we are losing staff to fast our only option is 12's. You are right alot of agencies are being a little less picky in there candidates but others are still as picky. Just like there is no perfect PD to work for it's the same for PO's no one is perfect 99.9% have something in there background and like most of my fellow officers I to am processing it just takes time.Remember there are cops out there that have been railroaded by all these lying administrators that have the power to do so.Knowing the way your dept is if they fired someone wouldnt you tell that backround investigator from another dept that went to do his backround that he was wronged.

[MOD 456]

Of course I would, most agencies in So.Fla. know the reputation of this Dept. and most ofc. that have been fired have gone on to other agencies. granted it may take a little longer but they usually get hired.

Of course I would, most agencies in So.Fla. know the reputation of this Dept. and most ofc. that have been fired have gone on to other agencies. granted it may take a little longer but they usually get hired.MOST IF NOT ALL THE SMALL AGENCIES IN SO FLORIDA HAVE BAD REPUTATIONS THEY ALL HAVE BAGGAGE THERE POLITICIANS ARE CORRUPT AND THEY ARE ALL GUILTY OF ABUSE OF POWER NOT TO MENTION THAT THEY ALL HAVE FIRED COPS UNFAIRLY USALLY BUY LYING. BUT THE WORST THING IS THAT WHEN WE GO AND DO A BACKROUND ON AN APPLICANT WE TAKE THERE WORD AS GOSPEL....

I used to backgrounds, and I did not always believe everything was said about applicants. In most cases I found that what I was being told could not be produced with paper to back it up. Alot of good officers got hired when other agencies wouldn't even think about hiring them....

I worked for the Miccosukee PD back from 1999-2002 and we had a good group of Officers, plus a pyscho Capt. that in the end proved too be good. If he wasn't giving all his stuff to ArchenRat. The bottom line is that, the agency is not bad, the Indians have to get off the pot and raise the starting salary to $48,000 a year for the officers and give take home cars. Then you'll see the candiadtes come, furthermore, those that feel that they are not real cops becuase they work in tribal police, I can only say this. You have an active LEO cert, a badge, and a gun with the powers to make arrests. A cop is a cop no matter what, and let me tell you with the crap of City of Miami and Hialeah, Micco is way better off.

Yeah, now I can say I've done all the real shit like getting stabbed, shot at, been in several vehicle chases, numerous foot chases and many on my own, I have a blck Sgt that is a racist militant, and you know what, if I knew then what I know now. I would have stayed at Micco and made easy money and not really have to woory about shit.

By the way, hows Skull Nuts doing and Gincarlo Pelosi? Didi he ever get married?

I take my prior post back, man you guys down their have problems. Get the hell out of their. One someone talk about Wakenhut making $41,000 plus overtime and you guys can't get crap, that ain't a good sign. So who is in charge now and what's going to happen?

Hey there Green Deputy?

So how bad do miss Lowell and Archinuts? I am sure you heard that he was a 39 while working for PBSO

Yeah, the good ole Archenrat got 39'd for tampering with a witness, and a bun ch of other shit. Most of us knew the guy was dirty. The only thing about that micro-psycho manager ex Capt. Clink was that he tried to have the guys do a lot of specialized shit. In a way thats good. And no, I don't miss them at all. One thing I can say, it dosen't matter where you go, all law enforcement agencies are like this. Their full of problems, you fight for peanuts when it comes to raises, and yet this so called democracy expects you to go ahead and give your life in the line of duty. What needs to happen is a major reality check by this country. Crime and terrosim go hand in hand. Most of what the terrosits do, the criminals do. Heck they were doing shit way before Al-Qida was anything but a pimp on someone's ****. They need to stop paying all these lawyers, middle managers, administrators, secretaries, accountants all this money and they need to jack up substanially the pay of the police officer across the board. Until that happens, which ot won't, we are going to have problems. If you guys at Micco get a chance, read that book by Dennis Wise. You'll be amazed at the shit we got through from everyone just to make peanuts.

Hey, the suns coming up. I love checkpoints. Reminds me of how I wasted over 700hrs in training to become a cop. OH well at least I have a cold beer waiting for me.

to think all of this started because of Keny Cypress aka "steroid man". I thought check points was something they do in a third world country...oops that is correct I am in a third world country.

fot those of us who are on days twelve hour shofts must be the best thing but for those who are stuck on b shift i would like to speak for all when i say this sucks. cna anyone please tell me when does someone think we will be back on our regular shift because twelve hour check points suck .

[MOD 456]

I really have no idea guys keep leaving and people are not applying so who knows.

The 12 hour shift is not healthy. Your health is more important than getting off extra weekends. You may not think that way now, but later it will catch up. Not worth it. Some dept's have been sued because officers work 12 to 18 hrs. and don't sleep. Doctors have proven driving without sleep is just as bad as DUI. 12 hour shifts are a big liability to the officer and the dept. What we like is sometimes not good for us.

Wake up, prety much every law enforcement agency in the US is on 12's. You need to get out of the woods more often.