Certified LEO Board Poll

[MOD 1]

If there were Message Boards available for access only to Certified Law Enforcement Officers would you be interested in using them?

It would require that you be an anonymous registered user and go through a one time CONFIDENTIAL verification process.

This process would involve Private Messaging Mod 1 with contact info that Mod 1 would then discreetly and confidentially verify. This procedure would also be non-intrusive. This information would then be deleted.

This would be an area where Officers from all over would be able to post without worrying if the public or press is reading their posts.

Let us know what you think.


Okay, I set it to let All users vote, but without an upgrade, this version of the software won't allow it. Registered Users can vote in the poll, others can vote by hitting reply and typing your answer. I am sorry for the inconvenience.

Mod 1

Id vote yes, but i cant vote

yes but what would be the difference to what LEO Affairs is all about now?

[MOD 353]

I voted yes 8)

I would vote yes.

I'd vote "Yes"

yes

I would vote "yes"

I would vote Yes. :!:

[MOD 1]

yes but what would be the difference to what LEO Affairs is all about now?

There would only be Certified Law Enforcement Officers allowed access to that particular section of the board. There would probably be a little more freedom of speech, meaning less moderation. We are working it all out, but, the main thing is that it would be a private are just for cops. If it was popular enough, we would add more boards as needed, with different "themes" or "topics."

The rest of the boards would remain as they are.

[JAVI ORTIZ]

yes, great idea

[Mod 361]

Sign me up, buddy!!! 8)

C

[MOD 419]

As long as everyone is registered and has only one account.

Sounds good to me. :wink:

MOD 419

If it were still 100% anonymous Id be for it. It would keep the idiot hippy trolls off the site.

Great idea! Long overdue... I'm all for it.

This would be a good thing. It should afford another layer of protection toward free speech since the forums would be considered "private" wouldn't they?

If you don't forget the retirees !!

Sounds good!!

I would be interested to know how you would verify someone is a law enforcement officer. In my state you can have a law enforcement certificate for up to four years without being actively employed by a law enforcement agency. If the site is going to be for real cops, I'd be all for it.

i vote yes, but i am also skeptical of the verification process...

would you verify through a photocopy of my employee ID card?

didnt hillsborough county try to obtain the identities of the posters here a while back?

If it were still 100% anonymous Id be for it. It would keep the idiot hippy trolls off the site. The main website will remain the same, to include your department's website.
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The "restricted area" would be a separate room that can only be accessed by sworn officers, after their sworn (or retired) status is verified. The LEOs who are granted access inside the "restricted area" would remain anonymous, unless they choose to identify themselves openly or to each other or via PM. Only the site owners (Chip & Jim) and Mods 1 & 2 would have access to the identify of the posters, along with their IPs (just like it is right now). No other mods would have access to identities or IPs.
[/*:m:tjv5p3jw]
All the other boards at LEOAffairs.com will remain open to everyone.[/*:m:tjv5p3jw]

yes

im game.

[MOD 1]

i vote yes, but i am also skeptical of the verification process...

would you verify through a photocopy of my employee ID card?

didnt hillsborough county try to obtain the identities of the posters here a while back?

The verification is fairly simple. We wanted something that wouldn't leave a trail. Emails are out, because emails leave a trail. If I or one of my other moderators did not know that you were certified law enforcement officer then we would do the verification process.

If not a registered user, the user would register, which is anonymous. Then you would Private Message me, with your name, agency, and agency phone number. Me being the anonymous person that I am, would then < verification process edited out by Mod 2 > Once this is done, you are then upgraded to the verified status, the Private Message is deleted and their is no record of any of the information.

It's simple, discreet, non-intrusive, and there's no trail.

Yes, Sheriff Gee did try to get IP addresses, but lost in the 2nd DCA. So, we have case law in our favor. Plus, this area will be a private area, there will be no public access. There will be no Media and no public allowed. Anyone caught sharing their User ID and Passwords with others, will face being banned from the Private Area, which will be much easier than just banning the IP address.

Mod 1

SINCE JAVI SAID YES I'LL GO ALONG WITH IT!

Yes. That way at least the people who like to slam other deputies by using their name would only be able to do it in front of other deputies and not the whole world. Sounds like a fair middle ground.

Thanks Mod1.

Would retired officers be allowed to register?

[MOD 1]

Would retired officers be allowed to register?

Yes, as long as I can verify your retired status with the agency.

Mod 1

I had not read all the post before I asked the question about retirees.

In Florida, with a very liberal open records law, the retired status should be availble via the Florida Retirement System data base.

Yes, but can LEO Retirees join also?

great site! Sounds like a great Idea but, how owuld you make sure its a real LEO

[Phaedrus11]

I post on a slew of BB’s, both registered and unregistered, and I’ve found that the registered ones are far more productive. You’ll still have guys registering gimmick accounts and those screaming that the administration will be able to find out who they are but it raises the quality of the posts tenfold. I vote an emphatic “Yes”

yes

[mod 352]

Sure would help keep the disgruntled civilians out of the mix.

great site! Sounds like a great Idea but, how owuld you make sure its a real LEO
Vee hav vays! ;)


Yes, but can LEO Retirees join also?
Absolutely!

Yes, I think it is a good idea. Thanks for not forgetting those of us who have retired.

[MOD 1]

great site! Sounds like a great Idea but, how owuld you make sure its a real LEO

It would be a very discreet, confidential verification which would leave no trails.

Mod 1

As many of the questions are coming from retired brothers. mabe theres a need for "Retired Law Enforcement" board. They could exchange old war stories that dont impress this new so called X genaration, exchange vacation hints, swap vacation homes, call for legislation to benift the retired- such as raising the insurane supplement, planning annual get to geathers, etc.--- the possibilities are endless.

[MOD 1]

As many of the questions are coming from retired brothers. mabe theres a need for "Retired Law Enforcement" board. They could exchange old war stories that dont impress this new so called X genaration, exchange vacation hints, swap vacation homes, call for legislation to benift the retired- such as raising the insurane supplement, planning annual get to geathers, etc.--- the possibilities are endless.

I can just add an extra board for Retirees. They can have access to both.

Mod 1

[MOD 456]

I'm all for it .....how are we going to be able to check if you are a leo?

MOD 456

[MOD 1]

I'm all for it .....how are we going to be able to check if you are a leo?

MOD 456

Actually, I am quite aware of my status. But, thank you for asking.



Actually, it will be quite simple, confidential, non-intrusive, and leave no tracks.......

YES twice yes yes, it will keep the nutbars out of the real important information

yes

What if you were not a Certified Leo but worked within the SSO. Would that exempt you? I would post under my real name if it was blocked from the general public.

I would vote for it.
You would still have the same problems that you do now, but at least you will not have disgruntled ex-employees starting crap.
No press access.

Sounds great

I would be for it

i vote yes :devil:

Amen to that. Def x4.

Yes

yes

I vote yes. :)

Count me in as a yes vote

yes

[mod 166]

Absolutely!

I am registered, and voted yes in the poll.

We need to exclude the trolls and outsiders who just try to stir things up.

Regarding this post:

Anonymous wrote:
As many of the questions are coming from retired brothers. mabe theres a need for "Retired Law Enforcement" board. They could exchange old war stories that dont impress this new so called X genaration, exchange vacation hints, swap vacation homes, call for legislation to benift the retired- such as raising the insurane supplement, planning annual get to geathers, etc.--- the possibilities are endless.

I oppose this idea if it would exclude the retirees from the active LEO board! The retirees are often the ones who have the "institutional memory" that explains how we have gotten where we are. As Santayana said, "Those who cannot remember the past are condemned to repeat it."

The reference to planning get togethers gives me an opportunity to remind all that active duty employees who are in DROP are eligible and welcome to attend the Alumni Association meetings. The meeting dates and location are posted on the HCSO website. Go to "A" in the directory and click on Alumni Association.

Just wondering how you would be able to verify the person was really a LEO and still be able to remain anonymous. I think the idea is worth exploring!!!

[MOD 1]

Just wondering how you would be able to verify the person was really a LEO and still be able to remain anonymous. I think the idea is worth exploring!!!

Actually, it is quite ridiculously simple and I look forward to you being one of the first to find out.

Mod 1

Yes....are we included

YES

yes

[RandyW1]

Sounds great to me.

[NorthFL LEO]

YES

I vote yes

I'd vote yes--i assume it would bea registered name like on Policeone website.

I vote yes.

I am for it.

I vote a big NO - from Broward Sheriff's Office where this site is totally abused.

Count Me In

I vote a big NO - from Broward Sheriff's Office where this site is totally abused.
All it would do is keep the non-sworn out. Why don't you want to do that???

If not a registered user, the user would register, which is anonymous. Then you would Private Message me, with your name, agency, and agency phone number. Me being the anonymous person that I am, would then < verification process edited out by Mod 2 > Once this is done, you are then upgraded to the verified status, the Private Message is deleted and their is no record of any of the information.
Mod 1

Anyone who doesn't perceive how the verification process would work should perhaps go into some other line of work.

There is no problem with this if you trust the owners and mods - who have already proven themselves trustworthy in the courts.

Go for it!

Yes. Should be just for cops.

[Flyguy]

Yup

Sounds good.

I'd be in with it.

Sounds like a great idea.....I'm in.

Wouldn't matter... Internal Affairs would still have access and the posts would be subject to subpeona. If you Can't say it in PUBLIC FORUMS it shouldn't be said ANYWHERE! Pluse if you conduct a directed search it would bypass the "sign in" page and go direct to the content anyways!

[MOD 1]

Wouldn't matter... Internal Affairs would still have access and the posts would be subject to subpeona.

We have yet to have to turn over any IP addresses or anything else due to a subpoena. Secondly, none of the Private Boards are going to be agency specific, unless someone states that they work for a specific agency, how would anyone know what agency they work for? Thirdly, we have yet to work out the Terms of Use for the Private Boards. You don't even know what will be allowed or what won't be allowed.



If you Can't say it in PUBLIC FORUMS it shouldn't be said ANYWHERE! You are entitled to your opinion.


Pluse if you conduct a directed search it would bypass the "sign in" page and go direct to the content anyways!

Wrong. That's easy to prove wrong. Look and see how many posts I have. Now click on my profile button. Then click on to see all posts mad by me. Even though I have made posts in the LEO's Lounge, The Moderator's Forum and the Staff Forum, you cannot see these post by searching.

In order to for a directed search to show up in the Private Area's one would have to be signed in with a User Name that has been granted access to the Private Area.

Mod 1

Yes

[MOD 1]

Here is a link to how to gain access to the private boards.

Mod 1

http://forums.leoaffairs.com/viewforum.php?f=398

What about corrections, Dispatch, and anyone else working for that agency. Also I'm still skeptical of the verication process, God forbid some Brass wants information...
If anyone who worked for the LE agency was able to contribute I'd be in for it.

[MOD 1]

What about corrections, Dispatch, and anyone else working for that agency. Also I'm still skeptical of the verication process, God forbid some Brass wants information...
If anyone who worked for the LE agency was able to contribute I'd be in for it.

At this time it is for any Active or Retired Certified Officers. This includes corrections.

Mod 1

[NorthFL LEO]

I went through the verification process. I can't believe how simple it was.

If it were still 100% anonymous Id be for it. It would keep the idiot hippy trolls off the site.

tell you the truth I still do not trust HCSO moderators since we had one gathering info on HCSO posters for the Sheriff.

[MOD 1]

If it were still 100% anonymous Id be for it. It would keep the idiot hippy trolls off the site.

tell you the truth I still do not trust HCSO moderators since we had one gathering info on HCSO posters for the Sheriff.

That is the reason moderators do not have access to IP addresses anymore.

Mod 1

yep

Yes, if there are no identifiers. you would see more participation

Yes, I would register for verification, trusting that my posts would remain anonymous. I think it's okay to have a site like the present one that anyone can access, but we could use another confidential forum just for cops.

Keep inmates and lawyers off it.....I'm for it 100 percent.

yes

I'm in favor of a private board for L.E.O. However I am a retired L.E.O. will I have access as well. I hope so.

[Mod 463]

I think any and all LEOs on or off the job should be allowed on the board.

[MOD 1]

I'm in favor of a private board for L.E.O. However I am a retired L.E.O. will I have access as well. I hope so.

As long as your retired status can be verified you will be able to access it. I have even set up a second board just for Retiree Issues. Registrations are now being accepted.

Mod 1

[Mod 176]

Yes i would vote for it

As a retired St. Pete. firefighter I like to compare what's going on by watching both the firefither "Us vs Them" site and the LEOAFFAIRS.COM site. I think if you make a private site for just officers it would be nice but everyone would post there and this site would probably just go away. I understand what you're trying to do and maybe why you're doing it but I'll miss reading the posts on this site.

Good try though.... :D

YES!

[MOD 1]

Good try though.... :D

I set it up and not Chip.

I kept setting it to allow Non-Registered users to vote, but it kept switching back to Registered Users only. I didn't realize you couldn't do it, until I did some research.

There is a Add-on Module that you can install which would allow Non-Registered users to vote in Polls, but, the newest version of the software is about to come out and includes it. I didn't figure there was much sense in wasting Chip's time installing a Module which would be obsolete shortly.

Mod 1

[MOD 360]

I'm in. It sounds like a great idea.

yes i would be interested in a private site for leos

yes, yes

no

no

I vote yes. only because with the verification I would love to see if all these people with big mouths would still talk as much as they do now. SO YES bring it. :D :D :D

[MOD 1]

I vote yes. only because with the verification I would love to see if all these people with big mouths would still talk as much as they do now. SO YES bring it. :D :D :D

It's been set up and is running.

YES

Sounds good to me.

Make it accessible to civilian employees of police departments also.

By civilian I mean crime scene techs, public service aids etc... No janitors or auto mechanics....

I say no keep it private and anonymous.
If you place a verification number next to a name
people will not be as open as they are in this one.

Besides this is a fun site to ***** about others.

I say no keep it private and anonymous.
If you place a verification number next to a name
people will not be as open as they are in this one.

Besides this is a fun site to ***** about others.

I mean keep it public and anonymous

Do It.

ID VOTE YES

I think if we work within the agency and have clearance to run your 1027's 1028's 1029's, have FCIC NCIC clearance whether civilian or certified we should be able to have access to these same rooms. No some of us are not certified but we still work in Law Enforcement just the same, we still work on the same team. This is just another way to divide us even more. Just like road patrol vs detention now its certified vs civilian. No civilian positions are in no way comparable to working in the jails or on the road but we ARE on the same team. If you can verify our employment the same way you verify a certified or retired Leo, we should be granted access also. But this is reasonable so I KNOW IT WONT HAPPEN.

YES!

[Roverman]

I vote 'YES'

[FHPTROOPER]

yes

YES

[tpf-1]

I would like to see the private area and make it for active & retired certified officers.
tpf-1

[Kravatep]

Are you happy for us to comment on that case study or might that potentially bias the poll results?