Freedom of Speech versus Violation of Terms of Use

Well ladies and gentlemen it has finally happened. We have finally experienced the long arm of the Broward Sheriff's Office and the minions who wish to control you. Control you, that is a very difficult statement for me to choke down. It has come to my attention that a Broward Sheriff's Office employee has become the moderator for a site where freedom of speech was exercised. Now that a minion is in place, you can no longer express your displeasure with the institution. As always you are now under the strict control of the Broward Sheriff's Office and the Policy and Procedures that are implimented. How does it feel? How do you like being monitored? How do you like not being able to express your opinion, and having it suppressed as always. Due to your professionalism you must maintain a demeanor consistent with your profession. But when your not out protecting the public in this capacity you are entitled to your rights as others. Not in this case. And don't think for one second any differently.

This information is not from a reliable source, not a friend, and not someone that has an interest in this activity. This information is first hand while in the company of the newly appointed moderator who has no idea others now know what he is doing. The next question is why? Why does it bother our newly appointed moderator that others share the desire to express their opinions in a public forum. Why delete a posted thread because of the freedom of speech so many enjoy? Because the truth hurts ladies and gentlemen, the truth hurts. Someone on the deleted thread made a comment that struck a severe nerve. The deleted thread held the truth and it bothered persons so much and this site has become so very popular that the administration at the lowest supervisor level had to put a stop to things before their real secret came out. Did the thought of an internal affairs investigation threaten you. And the wrongful activity towards your subordinates strike fear into your heart. Well it should. The next thought you should have is maybe I should not moderate this forum. Maybe I should have some integrity to stand up for the rights of others and protect the constitutional rights of the people to freedom of speech. Or are we still in the mind set that the employees of the Broward Sheriff's Office incapable of thinking for themselves.

I am leaning toward you having a genuine fear that information regarding your doings will surface and an internal affairs investigation will be conducted. There was absolutely no legitimate reason to delete a thread from the forum. And the excuse you provide is there was a Violation of Terms of Use? Sounds to me like a quick fix before someone exposed you, a friend, or the Broward Sheriff's Office administration. Fear is a stinking cologne and you wear it well. I'm just curious when you traded your integrity for a promotion.

Food for thought;

For those experienced personnel who decided to make comments regarding the ccn/ zip-codes of others, having a four digit ccn is not an honor nor are you entitled to special recognition or privilege. Having a four digit ccn is not a right of passage to be rude to others. Having a four digit ccn is a clear indicator that you are not a youngster anymore. You should also be aware that a four digit ccn is a constant reminder of your mortality, and how close you are to the grave. In short, you with your impressively low ccn were in the position of newbie, rookie, new****, FNG, and overall do-boy once too. You can make a positive change to bury the derrogatory references for and on behalf of current and future employees.

Dude,
I don't think it was a BSO MOD that did that.

Not a BSO Moderator, but a Broward Sheriff's Office employee who is paranoid of the information contained in a response before the thread was deleted. I have the entire thread, all three pages. The real question here is, why have multiple other threads with derrogatory responses have not been deleted yet. The reasoning is simple this thread contained specific information regarding an incident that obvious persons do not want made public. There is no factual reason to delete the post other than the response made. Interesting is'nt it. Yes and at this moment the derrogatory posts remain. 2140/ 06-30-07. And do not discount how busy Internal Affairs is going to be come Monday morning with as many complaints made about threads on this site.

DUDE,

WHAT MAKES YOU THINK IS WASN'T A BSO MOD??? WHOLE THING SEEMS VERY FAMILAR GETTING RID OF ANYTHING THAT MAYBE A POTENTIAL RED FLAG TO A HIGHER AUTHORITY!!!!

[superlw8]

Expressing personal opinion is not a violation of Terms of Use! You cannot be libelous, however, a moderator cannot prove something is libelous without an actual investigation into the accusations made in the deleted thread.


Dude,
I don't think it was a BSO MOD that did that.

If anyone actually cares to read the Moderator Qualifications you will see it is more likely than not a BSO cronie.

How scary are words in a forum? Apparently, very. Maybe it is time to start looking for new forums who don't delete threads based upon politics and actually provide a true open forum for the free exchange of ideas.

Here is the Terms of Use description of inappropriate posts, despite the huge population of posters here, only 435 views.....

* are unlawful, threatening, obscene, vulgar, pornographic, profane, or indecent, including any communication that constitutes (or encourages conduct that would constitute) a criminal offense, gives rise to civil liability, or otherwise violates any local, state, national, or international law;
* violate the copyright, trademark, or other intellectual property rights of any other person. By submitting Messages to Forums, you represent to LEOAFFAIRS.COM, LLC that you are the rightful owner of such material or that you have first obtained permission to submit the material from the rightful owner;
* improperly assume or claim the identity, characteristics, or qualifications of another person;
* are for purposes of spamming;
* contain any virus or other harmful component;
* are libelous, or an invasion of privacy or publicity rights or any other third party rights; or
* are for commercial purposes or contain advertising or are intended to solicit a person to buy or sell services or to make donations.

[MOD 1]

When we switched over from the old message boards to the new format, your old moderator never registered and has not answered emails from me. That is why I posted asking for a new moderator.

In the mean time, I received a complaint about the thread in question. In reviewing it, I found that the thread mostly contained nothing but slams about certain named supervisors. This is not the intent of the board. This does violate the Terms of Use.


This is not a SLAM site and the Forums should be used constructively. Messages (anonymous or not) accusing anyone (including political candidates) of wrong doing (and/or criminal accusations) without substantial proof or reference are subject to deletion. Use your REAL name unless the need for an Anonymous Message is warranted. Messages not requiring Anonymous status, but being abused, are subject to deletion by System Moderators. Anonymous Messages are not granted the same right to exist that properly identified Messages are. Failure to comply can result in Message deletion and/or access blockage.

I made the decision to delete the thread. I am in no way connected with BSO nor do I even know anyone who works there.

Here is the deal. You are free to speak your minds. We want you to discuss the issues that need to be discussed. In doing so, please make sure that you follow the Terms of Use. There are many ways to say the same thing, we just need to choose the right words in doing so.

Yes their can be discussions about supervisors and staff. Their is a fine line between slamming a staff member or supervisor and bringing out things that need to be discussed. Sometimes it will be a judgment call. We will edit posts to make them conform when we can.

As far as moderators go. I prefer to have moderators that know the department. The only knowledge I have of moderators is the contact I have when they email me that they are interested and if I call them. I try to get a feel for them. I don't want someone that is going to delete every other post. On the other hand, I don't want someone that is going to leave posts on here that are clear violations of the Terms of Use.

Once I appoint a moderator, I keep an eye on what they delete. I have had moderators last less than 24 hours and some have been here since the boards started.

If anyone has any questions or concerns, please feel free to contact me. There is a link to the Terms of Use near the end of my signature.

Mod 1

Since the moderator chooses to take this position, and he is not attempting to hide his intentions or affiliations, why must he remain anonymous. Tell us who the moderator is, so we can decide if he is truly a fair and impartial moderator. You say that a comment with a name attached is taken more seriously then an anonymous post, well a moderator with a name attached is more reputable also........How about it Mr. Moderator you have nothing to hide what is you name?

[MOD 1]

Since the moderator chooses to take this position, and he is not attempting to hide his intentions or affiliations, why must he remain anonymous. Tell us who the moderator is, so we can decide if he is truly a fair and impartial moderator. You say that a comment with a name attached is taken more seriously then an anonymous post, well a moderator with a name attached is more reputable also........How about it Mr. Moderator you have nothing to hide what is you name?

The reason why the moderators of all of the boards are anonymous is simple, it is to keep them free from influence from staff and others that might seek to influence them.

Mod 1

[superlw8]

Mod-

At least you came out and responded to this thread and explained yourself.

Is the moral of the story that you can express negative opinions if you use appropriate language and your real name?

It would be sad if we weren't able to openly discuss some of the dispicable acts of the higher ups. We can't do it at the job, we can rarely do it in person, and this forum was a beacon of shining hope, and I hope this freedom hasn't been taken away.

While I agree it isn't fruitful to simply bash without supporting facts, we desperately need a place where we can freely talk about the sheer insanity that goes on daily in most districts.

In my years at BSO I have seen many complaints, memos, and investigations simply disappear because a "protected" person was involved. I know I am not alone in this, so I am sure you understand how unsettling it is, when the same thing happens here, at the place where we least expect it.

When things start disapearing, it smells. It smells like the same shenanigans that have happened in this agency since long before I got here, and I am sure long after I leave.

Since the moderator chooses to take this position, and he is not attempting to hide his intentions or affiliations, why must he remain anonymous. Tell us who the moderator is, so we can decide if he is truly a fair and impartial moderator. You say that a comment with a name attached is taken more seriously then an anonymous post, well a moderator with a name attached is more reputable also........How about it Mr. Moderator you have nothing to hide what is you name?

The reason why the moderators of all of the boards are anonymous is simple, it is to keep them free from influence from staff and others that might seek to influence them.

Mod 1

Looks like we are stuck between a rock and a hard place, because you are keeping him anonymous to keep him free from influence, yet you have influenced anyone who writes here because we do not know who he is. So in essence you killed the whole value of this website, congratulations!!!!!

[MOD 1]

Since the moderator chooses to take this position, and he is not attempting to hide his intentions or affiliations, why must he remain anonymous. Tell us who the moderator is, so we can decide if he is truly a fair and impartial moderator. You say that a comment with a name attached is taken more seriously then an anonymous post, well a moderator with a name attached is more reputable also........How about it Mr. Moderator you have nothing to hide what is you name?

The reason why the moderators of all of the boards are anonymous is simple, it is to keep them free from influence from staff and others that might seek to influence them.

Mod 1

Looks like we are stuck between a rock and a hard place, because you are keeping him anonymous to keep him free from influence, yet you have influenced anyone who writes here because we do not know who he is. So in essence you killed the whole value of this website, congratulations!!!!!

Just follow the rules and you will still have the full value of the board. What makes this board lose it's value is those posts that slam or slander others, or those those post sexual or racist remarks.

In the past these boards have helped other agencies get the media public on their side to effect change.

Mod 1

[superlw8]

Mod-

I hear where you are coming from, honestly I do. I think it is an admirable to feat to keep this place clear of hateful and ugly remarks, however, if that is honestly your position, why has that thread been the only one to disapear? Look at any other thread on here and you will see the same thing and they are still standing! So why this one? Out of the masses of posts that contain profanity and bigotry, why was this the only one to be deleted?

If your goal is to keep this board clear of all of this, awesome, but you have to do it unilaterally to prevent everyone on here from thinking you just pick and choose the ones that your friends don't like. I have to wonder why a thread that asks for everyone's least liked supervisor, containing tons of information about the misdoings of our "leaders" is deleted where MY thread is still active! ("Hey SUPERLW8 read this!")

Our punishment for Freedom of Speech, is that everyone gets to use it. I personally don't think my thread should be deleted, it is just words, and anybody can say anything they like about me, but how can you leave things like that standing, while the supervisor's thread mysteriously dispears? Again, it smells.

Hey MOD1, I just reviewed the rules and I do not see anything where it says you cant talk bad about someone. If the story is correct and true, how can it be slamming someone? I feel that you are one of the supervisors in that post and this is the only way for you to protect your own ass from climbing the ranks because if they knew what you were really about, you would never have been promoted in the first place.

[MOD 1]

Mod-

I hear where you are coming from, honestly I do. I think it is an admirable to feat to keep this place clear of hateful and ugly remarks, however, if that is honestly your position, why has that thread been the only one to disapear? Look at any other thread on here and you will see the same thing and they are still standing! So why this one? Out of the masses of posts that contain profanity and bigotry, why was this the only one to be deleted?

If your goal is to keep this board clear of all of this, awesome, but you have to do it unilaterally to prevent everyone on here from thinking you just pick and choose the ones that your friends don't like. I have to wonder why a thread that asks for everyone's least liked supervisor, containing tons of information about the misdoings of our "leaders" is deleted where MY thread is still active! ("Hey SUPERLW8 read this!")

Our punishment for Freedom of Speech, is that everyone gets to use it. I personally don't think my thread should be deleted, it is just words, and anybody can say anything they like about me, but how can you leave things like that standing, while the supervisor's thread mysteriously dispears? Again, it smells.

Here is the deal. We want to keep the boards as close to the Terms of Use as possible. Are there going to be gray areas? Yes. Will every violation be deleted no.

There are over 300 message boards. I don't have time to check all of them. That's why I have moderators for them. The only time I start looking at a board for problems is when I get complaints. I received a complaint about the Worse Supervisors thread. I reviewed it and found that it violated the Terms of Use. I waited a few days to remove it, while I contacted the original moderator and posted for a new one. I then deleted the thread before I selected the new moderator out of the many people that were interested.

I am letting Mod 420 go through the posts and delete or edit any posts that they feel violate the Terms of Use. I have not read all of the threads on your board. Mod 420 need time to go through them.

Mod 420 did email and asked my opinion about the thread about you. What I said is this, "What I have always done, is when someone replies and defends themselves, I let the post stay."

In this case, the post doesn't make you look bad, it actually makes the poster look bad, and is evidenced by all the posts that blasted that person. If you would like the thread removed, I would be more than happy to remove it for you.

If at any time any of you think there are posts that should be deleted but aren't, or posts being deleted but shouldn't, please feel free to contact me.

Thanks,

Mod 1

[MOD 1]

Hey MOD1, I just reviewed the rules and I do not see anything where it says you cant talk bad about someone. If the story is correct and true, how can it be slamming someone? I feel that you are one of the supervisors in that post and this is the only way for you to protect your own arse from climbing the ranks because if they knew what you were really about, you would never have been promoted in the first place.

Here you go. It is there, plus I quoted it above.



This is not a SLAM site and the Forums should be used constructively. Messages (anonymous or not) accusing anyone (including political candidates) of wrong doing (and/or criminal accusations) without substantial proof or reference are subject to deletion. Use your REAL name unless the need for an Anonymous Message is warranted. Messages not requiring Anonymous status, but being abused, are subject to deletion by System Moderators. Anonymous Messages are not granted the same right to exist that properly identified Messages are. Failure to comply can result in Message deletion and/or access blockage.


Now with that said, I will allow you to post stuff that is true, but please make sure to do it in a way that it is not a slam and that you reference substantial proof.

MOD 1

Well ladies and gentlemen it has finally happened. We have finally experienced the long arm of the Broward Sheriff's Office and the minions who wish to control you. Control you, that is a very difficult statement for me to choke down. It has come to my attention that a Broward Sheriff's Office employee has become the moderator for a site where freedom of speech was exercised. Now that a minion is in place, you can no longer express your displeasure with the institution. As always you are now under the strict control of the Broward Sheriff's Office and the Policy and Procedures that are implimented. How does it feel? How do you like being monitored? How do you like not being able to express your opinion, and having it suppressed as always. Due to your professionalism you must maintain a demeanor consistent with your profession. But when your not out protecting the public in this capacity you are entitled to your rights as others. Not in this case. And don't think for one second any differently.

When it's all said and done your still a "NFG"...... :lol:

This information is not from a reliable source, not a friend, and not someone that has an interest in this activity. This information is first hand while in the company of the newly appointed moderator who has no idea others now know what he is doing. The next question is why? Why does it bother our newly appointed moderator that others share the desire to express their opinions in a public forum. Why delete a posted thread because of the freedom of speech so many enjoy? Because the truth hurts ladies and gentlemen, the truth hurts. Someone on the deleted thread made a comment that struck a severe nerve. The deleted thread held the truth and it bothered persons so much and this site has become so very popular that the administration at the lowest supervisor level had to put a stop to things before their real secret came out. Did the thought of an internal affairs investigation threaten you. And the wrongful activity towards your subordinates strike fear into your heart. Well it should. The next thought you should have is maybe I should not moderate this forum. Maybe I should have some integrity to stand up for the rights of others and protect the constitutional rights of the people to freedom of speech. Or are we still in the mind set that the employees of the Broward Sheriff's Office incapable of thinking for themselves.

I am leaning toward you having a genuine fear that information regarding your doings will surface and an internal affairs investigation will be conducted. There was absolutely no legitimate reason to delete a thread from the forum. And the excuse you provide is there was a Violation of Terms of Use? Sounds to me like a quick fix before someone exposed you, a friend, or the Broward Sheriff's Office administration. Fear is a stinking cologne and you wear it well. I'm just curious when you traded your integrity for a promotion.

Food for thought;

For those experienced personnel who decided to make comments regarding the ccn/ zip-codes of others, having a four digit ccn is not an honor nor are you entitled to special recognition or privilege. Having a four digit ccn is not a right of passage to be rude to others. Having a four digit ccn is a clear indicator that you are not a youngster anymore. You should also be aware that a four digit ccn is a constant reminder of your mortality, and how close you are to the grave. In short, you with your impressively low ccn were in the position of newbie, rookie, new****, FNG, and overall do-boy once too. You can make a positive change to bury the derrogatory references for and on behalf of current and future employees.

its simple. MOD 420 works for BSO. MOD 1 runs the forums for ALL AGENCIES ON LEO AFFAIRS. It's not that hard to figure out.

Well ladies and gentlemen it has finally happened. We have finally experienced the long arm of the Broward Sheriff's Office and the minions who wish to control you. Control you, that is a very difficult statement for me to choke down. It has come to my attention that a Broward Sheriff's Office employee has become the moderator for a site where freedom of speech was exercised. Now that a minion is in place, you can no longer express your displeasure with the institution. As always you are now under the strict control of the Broward Sheriff's Office and the Policy and Procedures that are implimented. How does it feel? How do you like being monitored? How do you like not being able to express your opinion, and having it suppressed as always. Due to your professionalism you must maintain a demeanor consistent with your profession. But when your not out protecting the public in this capacity you are entitled to your rights as others. Not in this case. And don't think for one second any differently.

This information is not from a reliable source, not a friend, and not someone that has an interest in this activity. This information is first hand while in the company of the newly appointed moderator who has no idea others now know what he is doing. The next question is why? Why does it bother our newly appointed moderator that others share the desire to express their opinions in a public forum. Why delete a posted thread because of the freedom of speech so many enjoy? Because the truth hurts ladies and gentlemen, the truth hurts. Someone on the deleted thread made a comment that struck a severe nerve. The deleted thread held the truth and it bothered persons so much and this site has become so very popular that the administration at the lowest supervisor level had to put a stop to things before their real secret came out. Did the thought of an internal affairs investigation threaten you. And the wrongful activity towards your subordinates strike fear into your heart. Well it should. The next thought you should have is maybe I should not moderate this forum. Maybe I should have some integrity to stand up for the rights of others and protect the constitutional rights of the people to freedom of speech. Or are we still in the mind set that the employees of the Broward Sheriff's Office incapable of thinking for themselves.

I am leaning toward you having a genuine fear that information regarding your doings will surface and an internal affairs investigation will be conducted. There was absolutely no legitimate reason to delete a thread from the forum. And the excuse you provide is there was a Violation of Terms of Use? Sounds to me like a quick fix before someone exposed you, a friend, or the Broward Sheriff's Office administration. Fear is a stinking cologne and you wear it well. I'm just curious when you traded your integrity for a promotion.

Food for thought;

For those experienced personnel who decided to make comments regarding the ccn/ zip-codes of others, having a four digit ccn is not an honor nor are you entitled to special recognition or privilege. Having a four digit ccn is not a right of passage to be rude to others. Having a four digit ccn is a clear indicator that you are not a youngster anymore. You should also be aware that a four digit ccn is a constant reminder of your mortality, and how close you are to the grave. In short, you with your impressively low ccn were in the position of newbie, rookie, new****, FNG, and overall do-boy once too. You can make a positive change to bury the derrogatory references for and on behalf of current and future employees.

LL Grunt,
I agree with everything you posted. However, this is about the fifth time that you've made your CCN / zip code speach. I think you really need to get over it. Experience matters and we all know that some zip code CCNs have almost 20 years on the job if they came from a merger. But, I think there is nothing wrong with pointing out instances where someone's experience, or lack there of, can make a difference in their decision making. I am experienced but I also know there are those with 25 years seniority and 25 weeks experience. There is a difference. You someday will much more experience than CCN 90210. Enjoy it when it happens but lighten up in the mean time.

Amen Brother.

[quote="LL Grunt":o2uu2wqb]Well ladies and gentlemen it has finally happened. We have finally experienced the long arm of the Broward Sheriff's Office and the minions who wish to control you. Control you, that is a very difficult statement for me to choke down. It has come to my attention that a Broward Sheriff's Office employee has become the moderator for a site where freedom of speech was exercised. Now that a minion is in place, you can no longer express your displeasure with the institution. As always you are now under the strict control of the Broward Sheriff's Office and the Policy and Procedures that are implimented. How does it feel? How do you like being monitored? How do you like not being able to express your opinion, and having it suppressed as always. Due to your professionalism you must maintain a demeanor consistent with your profession. But when your not out protecting the public in this capacity you are entitled to your rights as others. Not in this case. And don't think for one second any differently.

This information is not from a reliable source, not a friend, and not someone that has an interest in this activity. This information is first hand while in the company of the newly appointed moderator who has no idea others now know what he is doing. The next question is why? Why does it bother our newly appointed moderator that others share the desire to express their opinions in a public forum. Why delete a posted thread because of the freedom of speech so many enjoy? Because the truth hurts ladies and gentlemen, the truth hurts. Someone on the deleted thread made a comment that struck a severe nerve. The deleted thread held the truth and it bothered persons so much and this site has become so very popular that the administration at the lowest supervisor level had to put a stop to things before their real secret came out. Did the thought of an internal affairs investigation threaten you. And the wrongful activity towards your subordinates strike fear into your heart. Well it should. The next thought you should have is maybe I should not moderate this forum. Maybe I should have some integrity to stand up for the rights of others and protect the constitutional rights of the people to freedom of speech. Or are we still in the mind set that the employees of the Broward Sheriff's Office incapable of thinking for themselves.

I am leaning toward you having a genuine fear that information regarding your doings will surface and an internal affairs investigation will be conducted. There was absolutely no legitimate reason to delete a thread from the forum. And the excuse you provide is there was a Violation of Terms of Use? Sounds to me like a quick fix before someone exposed you, a friend, or the Broward Sheriff's Office administration. Fear is a stinking cologne and you wear it well. I'm just curious when you traded your integrity for a promotion.

Food for thought;

For those experienced personnel who decided to make comments regarding the ccn/ zip-codes of others, having a four digit ccn is not an honor nor are you entitled to special recognition or privilege. Having a four digit ccn is not a right of passage to be rude to others. Having a four digit ccn is a clear indicator that you are not a youngster anymore. You should also be aware that a four digit ccn is a constant reminder of your mortality, and how close you are to the grave. In short, you with your impressively low ccn were in the position of newbie, rookie, new****, FNG, and overall do-boy once too. You can make a positive change to bury the derrogatory references for and on behalf of current and future employees.

LL Grunt,
I agree with everything you posted. However, this is about the fifth time that you've made your CCN / zip code speach. I think you really need to get over it. Experience matters and we all know that some zip code CCNs have almost 20 years on the job if they came from a merger. But, I think there is nothing wrong with pointing out instances where someone's experience, or lack there of, can make a difference in their decision making. I am experienced but I also know there are those with 25 years seniority and 25 weeks experience. There is a difference. You someday will much more experience than CCN 90210. Enjoy it when it happens but lighten up in the mean time.[/quote:o2uu2wqb]

The problem exists when people use their four digit CCN as a merit badge. People with time, experience, four digit ccn's need not explain to others how experienced they are or make remarks as to how they are overly qualified for every little thing. Or my exceptional favorite, 'we did'nt do that in the old days. Enough. The old days are over. If Mr. or Mrs four digit CCN wants to announce how wonderful they are, do it in the retirement home. Not in the Broward Sheriff's Office. Your experience was then. It's over it's done with, and has no merit or place in the new and definately improved world of Law Enforcement. Times have changed, people move on. And as the comment was made to me let it go. Well people should let go of the ego trip which low ccn persons have with constantly telling us about how they are not a zip code. I can count many that do not use this number as a way of defining the person they are or how they work, and for that I am in eternal appreciation. I respect those persons who work hard and not use this as an excuse to be a lazy, good for nothing ultra experienced dictator. I should mention names, but I won't. CCN's are not off limits though. I absolutely respect hardworking experienced employees who make a difference and allow that quality experience shine through. I am absolute overwhelmed when one of the lower CCN individuals step up and make intelligent conversation, like yourself, which restores my faith in that individual. But it is a verbal trigger when I over hear this alleged experienced employee make all the grand statements in the world of how it was, what they did and prove nothing more that the individual is a complete moron. Again my statement is not for all. But how you don't want to hear about my Food For Thought statement, I don't want to hear a derrogatory statement toward newer of higher ccn employees just because they can. And your right let it go. Thank you for your intelligent, thoughtful, and respectful reply. You show a great deal of professionalism and know it is appreciated.

I guess I'm an old school turd but there is no way law enforcement is "new and improved." We have less respect than we use to and the hood rats challenge us constantly. I'm sorry but I don't allow someone to suck their teethe when I walk by them in the hood. The problem is that the previous 25 deputies did and I end up getting into a fight. If we all stood our ground we would be in much better shape. You have to look at yourself when it comes to bias. You seem to have a problem with seniority. Why don't you come down hard on the new turds that you have to work with. I feel for you.

Oh, I forgot, I am a FNG who has wed and thur off, but I should be on days with weekends off because I have two years on the job. :oops:

Oh, I forgot, I am a FNG who has wed and thur off, but I should be on days with weekends off because I have two years on the job. :oops:

LL:

I have to tell you something. I was like you many years ago. After so many years of this business, it changes you in many ways. There is kind of a right of passage that you go through over these years. I used to curse the 3 digit ccn's like you do the four digit ones when I started. However, after going through the process of this adventurous career, I can see why they ended up like the guys you curse. This profession is not very nice to you in many ways. There is the occasional divorce, high blood pressure when you should not have it, "almost losing your job from a complaint/scandal", lawsuit for doing your job, getting banged up from some fight, getting stabbed in the back by somebody you broke bread with on the job, I can go on and on.

You my friend, if you last that long enough to get to the finish line will look back on these days and understand what I am telling you here. Moral of this story: "Judge ye, lest ye be judged".

[quote="4 digit CCN":3r6gwjxo][quote="LL Grunt":3r6gwjxo]Well ladies and gentlemen it has finally happened. We have finally experienced the long arm of the Broward Sheriff's Office and the minions who wish to control you. Control you, that is a very difficult statement for me to choke down. It has come to my attention that a Broward Sheriff's Office employee has become the moderator for a site where freedom of speech was exercised. Now that a minion is in place, you can no longer express your displeasure with the institution. As always you are now under the strict control of the Broward Sheriff's Office and the Policy and Procedures that are implimented. How does it feel? How do you like being monitored? How do you like not being able to express your opinion, and having it suppressed as always. Due to your professionalism you must maintain a demeanor consistent with your profession. But when your not out protecting the public in this capacity you are entitled to your rights as others. Not in this case. And don't think for one second any differently.

This information is not from a reliable source, not a friend, and not someone that has an interest in this activity. This information is first hand while in the company of the newly appointed moderator who has no idea others now know what he is doing. The next question is why? Why does it bother our newly appointed moderator that others share the desire to express their opinions in a public forum. Why delete a posted thread because of the freedom of speech so many enjoy? Because the truth hurts ladies and gentlemen, the truth hurts. Someone on the deleted thread made a comment that struck a severe nerve. The deleted thread held the truth and it bothered persons so much and this site has become so very popular that the administration at the lowest supervisor level had to put a stop to things before their real secret came out. Did the thought of an internal affairs investigation threaten you. And the wrongful activity towards your subordinates strike fear into your heart. Well it should. The next thought you should have is maybe I should not moderate this forum. Maybe I should have some integrity to stand up for the rights of others and protect the constitutional rights of the people to freedom of speech. Or are we still in the mind set that the employees of the Broward Sheriff's Office incapable of thinking for themselves.

I am leaning toward you having a genuine fear that information regarding your doings will surface and an internal affairs investigation will be conducted. There was absolutely no legitimate reason to delete a thread from the forum. And the excuse you provide is there was a Violation of Terms of Use? Sounds to me like a quick fix before someone exposed you, a friend, or the Broward Sheriff's Office administration. Fear is a stinking cologne and you wear it well. I'm just curious when you traded your integrity for a promotion.

Food for thought;

For those experienced personnel who decided to make comments regarding the ccn/ zip-codes of others, having a four digit ccn is not an honor nor are you entitled to special recognition or privilege. Having a four digit ccn is not a right of passage to be rude to others. Having a four digit ccn is a clear indicator that you are not a youngster anymore. You should also be aware that a four digit ccn is a constant reminder of your mortality, and how close you are to the grave. In short, you with your impressively low ccn were in the position of newbie, rookie, new****, FNG, and overall do-boy once too. You can make a positive change to bury the derrogatory references for and on behalf of current and future employees.

LL Grunt,
I agree with everything you posted. However, this is about the fifth time that you've made your CCN / zip code speach. I think you really need to get over it. Experience matters and we all know that some zip code CCNs have almost 20 years on the job if they came from a merger. But, I think there is nothing wrong with pointing out instances where someone's experience, or lack there of, can make a difference in their decision making. I am experienced but I also know there are those with 25 years seniority and 25 weeks experience. There is a difference. You someday will much more experience than CCN 90210. Enjoy it when it happens but lighten up in the mean time.[/quote:3r6gwjxo]

The problem exists when people use their four digit CCN as a merit badge. People with time, experience, four digit ccn's need not explain to others how experienced they are or make remarks as to how they are overly qualified for every little thing. Or my exceptional favorite, 'we did'nt do that in the old days. Enough. The old days are over. If Mr. or Mrs four digit CCN wants to announce how wonderful they are, do it in the retirement home. Not in the Broward Sheriff's Office. Your experience was then. It's over it's done with, and has no merit or place in the new and definately improved world of Law Enforcement. Times have changed, people move on. And as the comment was made to me let it go. Well people should let go of the ego trip which low ccn persons have with constantly telling us about how they are not a zip code. I can count many that do not use this number as a way of defining the person they are or how they work, and for that I am in eternal appreciation. I respect those persons who work hard and not use this as an excuse to be a lazy, good for nothing ultra experienced dictator. I should mention names, but I won't. CCN's are not off limits though. I absolutely respect hardworking experienced employees who make a difference and allow that quality experience shine through. I am absolute overwhelmed when one of the lower CCN individuals step up and make intelligent conversation, like yourself, which restores my faith in that individual. But it is a verbal trigger when I over hear this alleged experienced employee make all the grand statements in the world of how it was, what they did and prove nothing more that the individual is a complete moron. Again my statement is not for all. But how you don't want to hear about my Food For Thought statement, I don't want to hear a derrogatory statement toward newer of higher ccn employees just because they can. And your right let it go. Thank you for your intelligent, thoughtful, and respectful reply. You show a great deal of professionalism and know it is appreciated.[/quote:3r6gwjxo]

And becaause of the same three idiots, we have lost our right to post while working.

I didn't think we had a "right" to post while WORKING. jeez already.