Coralrose Fullwood

What in G-d's name is going on with the investigation? Has it been so screwed up that the chief thinks if he gives ZERO credence, Zero updates, Zero attention, that the public will forget about it and it will all go away?

Think what you may, but the community, the same community who pays your salaries, are fed up with the silence. Shame on the Chief for not giving Coralrose, an innocent BABY, the attention she deserves.

Mod...you have deleted all the other threads concerning Coralrose. If this one gets deleted, then that will be answer enough, that This Case is getting SWEPT UNDER THE RUG!

I've got a great idea!!!! Let's discuss active police investigations on the internet. Wow! That has to be the best idea I've ever heard. Oh and a little advice, Don't mention the salary thing right now. Probably not the best subject to bring up.

Why does there always have to be a smart @ss, ??? Why can't a very serious answer be given? What are the NPPD afraid of? If you have screwed this up so bad, why not swallow your pride and step aside and let the FDLE take over? The person or persons responsibly for killing this innocent child, taken from her room in the middle of the night, is getting away with murder. How long until it happens again?

The NPPD is charged with protecting and serving the residents of North Port. The chief going against his word therefore giving the allusion of incompetence does not serve this community well. The chief promised regular updates in the very beginning. Where is he? Vacation? an 8 month vacation? The silence is deafening.

Who raped and bludgeoned Coralrose Fullwood? Who is next?

Lilly - Do you truly believe that NPPD gave up on an investigation involving the rape and murder of a little girl? If you believe that then you are wrong. There is nothing more in this world the men and women of NPPD want then to catch that sick sadistic *******. But you must know they can not make up evidence, they can not mess this investigation up. They and FDLE are doing the absolute best possible job that can be done with what they were given. I know NPPD will update the public once they have information suitable to be released.

Don't knock the people who love investigating these things because if they stop who else would have the stomach for it? Not me. Shift your anger away from the NPPD and towards the person responsible for raping and killing a little girl.

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Search some other place for the answers that you are looking for, you will not find them here. This is not the forum to discuss ongoing investigations. The Chief will not release anything to you the public until he is ready and confident that the information is not sensitive to the investigation or prosecution of this case. This agency will release what it can when it can. If that is not good enough for you than I don't know what to tell you. You obviously want this case solved but at what expense. Do you want the case to go to court and be lost because sensitive information was released to the public and tampered the jury pool? What good would that serve? You have a responsibility to protect yourself and family at all costs. I see kids walking to school every day unsupervised, no parents around. Who do they blame when one gets hurt or lost? This is all about responsibility and it starts at HOME! Don't bash the Law Officers that are working very hard to solve this terrible act of violence. The Chief of Police is not going to release information until it is ready to be released; this case is still the top priority of the NPPD. The only thing I can tell you is be patient and let the Detectives work. Remember your bashing of this agency does not diminish the desire to catch this evil person; all it does is make you look ignorant. Oh yes, I will delete anything that may put this investigation at risk. If you do not like it, too bad, go some where else!

Well said Mod. Lilly you said that NPPD should give up on this investigation and hand it over to FDLE. Again showing ingorance. FDLE has been at NPPD everyday since this horrible crime took place. This investigation has been in both of their hands since day 1 They are working on it everyday. I assure you this has not been swept under a rug just because you have not heard any new updates. The information they are gathering right now is on a need to know basis. Your definition of need and the true definition of need differ greatly. Continue watching CSI where every murder is solved in an hour and the world is perfect. When you shut your TV off, it's time to come back to reality.

You can find some solace in the fact that LEO is now getting to the Child Porn viewing perverts at least. That will have a big impact on the safety of our children, but you have to do the research for yourself and know what you are up against.

These creeps are very deliberate in their movements toward getting into a position that will get them close to their victims. Also, realize that the offenders are often family members and friends of the family. It very well could be that one of your friends that have positioned themselves right into the heart of your family is there for one reason only...you are being groomed!

The perverts are organized and they communicate with each other. They share their sickness with each other, they plot their attacks, and they are empowered by the lack of knowledge of the innocent.

You have to teach yourself and your loved ones about how they are able to get to you and your family...your neighbors family...The pervert knows about you and he is laughing and enjoying the fact that you do not know how he and his kind works!

Do not let one of your loved ones stay in the dark about them. Teach them what is out there and even the possibility of working themselves into the position of being within your own home. They prey on the innocent, not the people that are knowledged and proactively protect their loved ones.

Sarasota and surrounding Counties have many of them on the Sex Offender Registry; we have to start fighting back. They are in our face with it now and enjoying the fact that the community is so hurt and confused by what they did to Coralrose and her family.

You can look at this as a war, they are on the attack, and your best weapon right now is knowledge of them and the ways they use to get to your children and the communities children.


They are in positions of power, they are working at the local convenience stores, they are working in places where children frequently go to, school, sports activities, swimming pools, play grounds... and they know that you the parent are going to take your eyes off the children as soon as he has your trust.

Help LEO help you instead of bashing them. They can not protect your children without the parents doing their jobs too. One thing I would like to see from local LEO is an active campaign to get the community the information they need to help themselves combat this sickness.


What in G-d's name is going on with the investigation? Has it been so screwed up that the chief thinks if he gives ZERO credence, Zero updates, Zero attention, that the public will forget about it and it will all go away?

Think what you may, but the community, the same community who pays your salaries, are fed up with the silence. Shame on the Chief for not giving Coralrose, an innocent BABY, the attention she deserves.

Mod...you have deleted all the other threads concerning Coralrose. If this one gets deleted, then that will be answer enough, that This Case is getting SWEPT UNDER THE RUG!

This is NOT about bashing the NPPD. I don't think I did, I think I was clearly writing out of frustration. I do NOT watch CSI, and am smart enough to KNOW that CSI is not how it goes in the real world.

Why can't you cops see my post for what it really is? A citizen of your community who is outraged that someone killed this little girl, raped her, and dumped her body. A citizen who is frustrated, who wants to at least be able to open my paper maybe once or twice a month and see the name Coralrose, with maybe a word from you that you are still working on it, that this hasn't gone cold. Is that too much to ask for a little piece of mind?

Instead of bashing ME.... would it have been so hard just to say "Hey, be patient, we are working on it?" Hey, we won't let coralrose be forgotten, and this hasn't gone cold"? Something? Anything? Can't I or the rest of the community be given that instead of the attacks? Throw us a bone.

What in G-d's name is going on with the investigation? Has it been so screwed up that the chief thinks if he gives ZERO credence, Zero updates, Zero attention, that the public will forget about it and it will all go away?

Think what you may, but the community, the same community who pays your salaries, are fed up with the silence. Shame on the Chief for not giving Coralrose, an innocent BABY, the attention she deserves.

Mod...you have deleted all the other threads concerning Coralrose. If this one gets deleted, then that will be answer enough, that This Case is getting SWEPT UNDER THE RUG!

I think you need to read you post lilly so here it is. I can not see how anyone would not take this as bashing. You frustration is not an excuse for your intolerance.

That is not an excuse, it's a fact jack! and thanks for proving my point.

And let me inform all of you what the complete silence is doing. When there is NO word whatsoever, it gives reason to feed the gossip meal and create speculations that spread like wildfire. I was at a function this weekend, and do you know what was being whispered around? That the NPPD are covering up as the DNA profile fits one of your own.

Now, sound minded people as myself, think that is BS but, there are people that are going to hear that and think it COULD be true. That is the kind of opinions that are being formed, due to the lack of ANYTHING. Is it right? NO it is not. Is it a reality? You bet.

I think it would be in the very best interest of every single employee of the NPPD as well as us, a community, if the chief gave a statement once every blue moon to keep rumors like that from getting started.

Come back and argue, but I really really think you all would be and should be upset knowing that with the gossip going around, one of you are now the suspect in a lot of peoples minds. Is that how you want this to go? I think not.

Like I said, I personally don't think that, so before anyone bashes me, I'm just the messenger.

IF NPPD HAS NOTHING TO HIDE AND CASE WAS ACTIVE THEN CHIEF WOULD BE TELLING NEWS. HE REFUSED TO ALLOW GROUP TO START FUNDRAISER THRU CRIMESTOPPERS LOOKING FOR LEADS. 2 WEEKS LATER HE SAYS MAYBE WILL DO REWARD. CHECK NEWS-4 YR OLD BRITISH CHILD MISSING FROM HOTEL IN LISBON, PORTUGAL 11 DAYS AGO. FINANCIAL PLEDGES ARE UP TO 5.1 MILLION FROM THE PUBLIC APPEAL. SHE IS AN AVERAGE CHILD LIKE CORALROSE. WHY CAN WE NOT DO WHAT ANOTHER COUNTRY THINKS NOTHING OF DONATING. PS SOME DONORS ARE J.K. ROWLING 9HARRY POTTER) AND IDOL JUDGE SIMON CALDWELL ALONG WITH SOCCER STAR DAVID BECKHAM MAKING PUBLIC APPEALS. WHAT ABOUT US. HOW LONG BEFORE WE KNOW WHO? HOW MUCH LONGER MUST WE LIVE IN LALA LAND. THE SIBLLINGS WANT ANSWERS.

The siblings want answers? What about the mom and dad? Why don't they want answers? Why aren't they talking and demanding answers? The only thing we see is Ellenbeth going on the news garnishing attention for herself for going to tallahassee? With barely a mention of her daughter, and not once looking into a camera and begging for someone , anyone with information to please step forward?

And from what I understand, Ellenbeth doesn't want the reward fund. It seems she doesn't want someone coming forward.

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That is not an excuse, it's a fact jack! and thanks for proving my point.

And let me inform all of you what the complete silence is doing. When there is NO word whatsoever, it gives reason to feed the gossip meal and create speculations that spread like wildfire. I was at a function this weekend, and do you know what was being whispered around? That the NPPD are covering up as the DNA profile fits one of your own.

Now, sound minded people as myself, think that is BS but, there are people that are going to hear that and think it COULD be true. That is the kind of opinions that are being formed, due to the lack of ANYTHING. Is it right? NO it is not. Is it a reality? You bet.

I think it would be in the very best interest of every single employee of the NPPD as well as us, a community, if the chief gave a statement once every blue moon to keep rumors like that from getting started.

Come back and argue, but I really really think you all would be and should be upset knowing that with the gossip going around, one of you are now the suspect in a lot of peoples minds. Is that how you want this to go? I think not.

Like I said, I personally don't think that, so before anyone bashes me, I'm just the messenger.

I understand that you are only the messenger but I have a question for you. When you heard those rumors did you tell those people that what they were saying was ignorant at best? Did you tell them that spreading rumors only creates speculation that no one can confirm? As far as the ignorant people who really believe that a NPPD Officers DNA was found in this case and nothing was done is nothing more than pot stirrer who obviously has a vendetta against Law Enforcement. To think that the FDLE and the NPPD would try to cover up anything has absolutely no sense in their entire body, in fact I would be surprised if they had a pulse. People can compare cases all they want but it means nothing. A confidential case is going to be protected until the law mandates release of information; it is not so in this case. I as a NPPD Officer have very little knowledge of this case status and progress. The CIB keeps that information very close to preserve the integrity of the case and I for one give them alot of credit for doing so. If you were to ask any road officer how the case was going you would hear "I really don't know" and that is because we really don't know. So leave all of the rumors up to the wash women of old and the investigation will roll on without a hitch from the public perception.

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IF NPPD HAS NOTHING TO HIDE AND CASE WAS ACTIVE THEN CHIEF WOULD BE TELLING NEWS. HE REFUSED TO ALLOW GROUP TO START FUNDRAISER THRU CRIMESTOPPERS LOOKING FOR LEADS. 2 WEEKS LATER HE SAYS MAYBE WILL DO REWARD. CHECK NEWS-4 YR OLD BRITISH CHILD MISSING FROM HOTEL IN LISBON, PORTUGAL 11 DAYS AGO. FINANCIAL PLEDGES ARE UP TO 5.1 MILLION FROM THE PUBLIC APPEAL. SHE IS AN AVERAGE CHILD LIKE CORALROSE. WHY CAN WE NOT DO WHAT ANOTHER COUNTRY THINKS NOTHING OF DONATING. PS SOME DONORS ARE J.K. ROWLING 9HARRY POTTER) AND IDOL JUDGE SIMON CALDWELL ALONG WITH SOCCER STAR DAVID BECKHAM MAKING PUBLIC APPEALS. WHAT ABOUT US. HOW LONG BEFORE WE KNOW WHO? HOW MUCH LONGER MUST WE LIVE IN LALA LAND. THE SIBLLINGS WANT ANSWERS.


How can you compare a missing child case to a murder investigation? The missing child in Portugal is just that, missing and they will need alot of money and man power to find her. You are not going to have hundreds of people working a murder investigation and 5.1 million dollars will do little to help the investigation. I do agree that a reward should be posted regardless of the family's objections. Don't compare Portugal with North Port Fl, USA, two different worlds. We actually have due process here and it takes alot to make a case stick. The only people living in Lala land are those that make up goofy accusations about the investigation.

quote="Anonymous"]That is not an excuse, it's a fact jack! and thanks for proving my point.

And let me inform all of you what the complete silence is doing. When there is NO word whatsoever, it gives reason to feed the gossip meal and create speculations that spread like wildfire. I was at a function this weekend, and do you know what was being whispered around? That the NPPD are covering up as the DNA profile fits one of your own.

Now, sound minded people as myself, think that is BS but, there are people that are going to hear that and think it COULD be true. That is the kind of opinions that are being formed, due to the lack of ANYTHING. Is it right? NO it is not. Is it a reality? You bet.

I think it would be in the very best interest of every single employee of the NPPD as well as us, a community, if the chief gave a statement once every blue moon to keep rumors like that from getting started.

Come back and argue, but I really really think you all would be and should be upset knowing that with the gossip going around, one of you are now the suspect in a lot of peoples minds. Is that how you want this to go? I think not.

Like I said, I personally don't think that, so before anyone bashes me, I'm just the messenger.[/quote]

I understand that your are the messange but I have a question for you. When you heard those rumors did you tell those people that what they were saying was ignorant at best? Did you tell them that spreading rumors only creats speculation that no one can confirm? As far as the ignorant people who really believe that a NPPD Officers DNA was found in this case and nothing was done is nothing more than pot stirrer who obviously has a vendetta against Law Enforcement. To think that the FDLE and the NPPD would try to cover up anything has absolutly no sense in their entire body, in fact I would be surprised if they had a pulse. People can compare cases all they want but it means nothing. A confidential case is going to be protected until the law madates release of information, it is not so in this case. I as a NPPD Officer have very little knowledge of this case status and progress. The CIB keeps that information very close to preserve the integrity of the case and I for one give them alot of credit for doing so. If you were to ask any road officer how the case was going you would hear "I really don't know" and that is because we really don't know. So leave all of the rumors up to the wash women of old and the investigation will roll on without a hitch from the public perseption.[/quote]


Let me tell you how it went. It was disturbing. I was at an event. It wasn't with wash women. There were professionals there, upstanding contributing members of the community. The conversation turned to Coralrose and the investigation, and the discussion immediately turned to a cop and DNA as though they had been discussing and thinking about it before. I DID in fact say that it was "Reckless" (the word I used) to even think such a thing. Some were adamant that "anything" was possible. That history tells us that Police forces nation wide have had one kind of cover up or another through out the years.

So, my point being, with no updates, not a word one, leaves people to speculate. And that is one of the speculations that are being discussed at dinner parties. So, it may be in everyones best interest if a regular scheduled update by the chief to the public was made. Even if it is, "We are still working on leads" or "If anyone knows anything"..something. I think that it would cut down on the worries and gross speculation going on. I'm looking at the psychology of a community as a whole. The complete silence is damaging in itself. I understand about the integrity of the investigation. Can totally respect that. But, if the Chief were a smart man, which he must be, he made it to chief, then I think he can think of a way to rest the worried souls of North Port without infringing on the integrity of the investigation.

Do I make sense? And I truly do not mean to bash. Truly. I just feel enough is enough. It's been 8 months. We need to be able to take a deep breath and relax a little.

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I am somewhat disturbed if these people are professional upstanding people in the community. If they were as reckless as you say there were, and I have to go by what you say because I was not there, then they are not very upstanding to start such rumors. As I said before there is no excuse for their intolerance. To make such accusations takes any credibility away from their "professional" status, no matter what they do. It is just irresponsible. As far as Chief Lewis goes I have alot of respect for him and he has a tough job. I have worked with many Police Chief's in my tenure in Law Enforcement. Many landed the job because of who they knew due to the good ole boy system. In this case it is not so and he was chosen after a long search and many interviews, he is the right man for North Port at this time and he is a "professional". I hope you get the answers you are looking for to ease your worries but all of us at the NPPD ask for your understanding. We all would like this murder solved as well.

Well.......if anyone remembers there was a press helicopter that flew over the crime scene during the initial moments of the death/abduction press release and clearly filmed a rather rotund NPPD officer in uniform standing on the property of the construction site, very near where the victim's body lay, smoking a cigarette and discarding it, right there on the scene. I knew who the officer was it was so close up and obvious to all. Is that law enforcement protocol to do that????? I think not. Even the CSI fans know better than that. Perhaps it is possible for an officer to leave his DNA at a crime scene when you pull that maneuver...... That moment rather encapsulated my confidence in the ability to investigate the crime. Any comments?.....please....

Ahhh...you are so right Daisy! A police officer throws a cigarette on the ground! How will this crime ever be solved now! This whole investigation is down the tubes with all investigators assigned to the case being unable to garnish your confidence in the Police Department because of what you saw. Once more, your ignorance is apparent! Buy Tevo and watch reruns of CSI instead of wasting space here.

IF NPPD HAS NOTHING TO HIDE AND CASE WAS ACTIVE THEN CHIEF WOULD BE TELLING NEWS. HE REFUSED TO ALLOW GROUP TO START FUNDRAISER THRU CRIMESTOPPERS LOOKING FOR LEADS. 2 WEEKS LATER HE SAYS MAYBE WILL DO REWARD. CHECK NEWS-4 YR OLD BRITISH CHILD MISSING FROM HOTEL IN LISBON, PORTUGAL 11 DAYS AGO. FINANCIAL PLEDGES ARE UP TO 5.1 MILLION FROM THE PUBLIC APPEAL. SHE IS AN AVERAGE CHILD LIKE CORALROSE. WHY CAN WE NOT DO WHAT ANOTHER COUNTRY THINKS NOTHING OF DONATING. PS SOME DONORS ARE J.K. ROWLING 9HARRY POTTER) AND IDOL JUDGE SIMON CALDWELL ALONG WITH SOCCER STAR DAVID BECKHAM MAKING PUBLIC APPEALS. WHAT ABOUT US. HOW LONG BEFORE WE KNOW WHO? HOW MUCH LONGER MUST WE LIVE IN LALA LAND. THE SIBLLINGS WANT ANSWERS.Perhaps if you had done a decent job of raising your daughter this never would have happened. Perhaps if you didn't let your grandchildren live in a pigsty this wouldn't have happened. Perhaps if you didn't constantly bail your daughter out financially this wouldn't have happened. Perhaps if you would have called DCF yourself about the poor conditions your grandchildren were living in they would all still be alive. Think about that before you have the nerve to insult other people.

Ahhh...you are so right Daisy! A police officer throws a cigarette on the ground! How will this crime ever be solved now! This whole investigation is down the tubes with all investigators assigned to the case being unable to garnish your confidence in the Police Department because of what you saw. Once more, your ignorance is apparent! Buy Tevo and watch reruns of CSI instead of wasting space here.


Is it not against NPPD policy to contaminate a crime scene? Sounds like a training issue AGAIN. Typical NPPD cowboys.

I am somewhat disturbed if these people are professional upstanding people in the community. If they were as reckless as you say there were, and I have to go by what you say because I was not there, then they are not very upstanding to start such rumors. As I said before there is no excuse for their intolerance. To make such accusations takes any credibility away from their "professional" status, no matter what they do. It is just irresponsible. As far as Chief Lewis goes I have alot of respect for him and he has a tough job. I have worked with many Police Chief's in my tenure in Law Enforcement. Many landed the job because of who they knew due to the good ole boy system. In this case it is not so and he was chosen after a long search and many interviews, he is the right man for North Port at this time and he is a "professional". I hope you get the answers you are looking for to ease your worries but all of us at the NPPD ask for your understanding. We all would like this murder solved as well.

You twisted and missed the point in your need to constantly throw people down. They are professionals. They weren't starting rumors... they were having a discussion on opinions, and this was one that was thrown around. There were other opinions too, and the conversation turned to something else.

I do want to say that it is good to see how you feel about your new chief. That gives me a little rest. And you asked, and shall recieve my understanding. It just hit me that this awful incident may have affected some of you as it has the community and that you want closure as well. Please, then good luck, I pray to G-D they catch this monster.

The siblings want answers? What about the mom and dad? Why don't they want answers? Why aren't they talking and demanding answers? The only thing we see is Ellenbeth going on the news garnishing attention for herself for going to tallahassee? With barely a mention of her daughter, and not once looking into a camera and begging for someone , anyone with information to please step forward?

And from what I understand, Ellenbeth doesn't want the reward fund. It seems she doesn't want someone coming forward.

There is NO-ONE, No-One that wants answers more than I. What gets printed or shown on TV of the interviews I have done do not contain everything said. i have no control over the editing.

Again I repeat NO-ONE wants this solved more than I do. Not even you LEOs.

I wonder how many people posting on this thread are REALLY NPPD??? I have a feeling that the things being said here are all from posters from the Herald Tribune message rag. Keep the arguments over there ladies.

I stated I was a citizen of the community and never potrayed myself to be an Officer. Nor do I participate in the Hearald Tribs forum on the subject. Nor do I care to. I live in the neihborhood where they dumped this little girl and I just haven't rested easy since this happened.

I don't blame Lilly in the least for being a concerned citizen. I think most of us would be if a child was murdered and dumped in our back yard. Why does NPPD have such a problem with concerned citizens. Why does NPPD have such a problem with citizen discussion of their performance or ability as law enforcement. Why does everyone that represents themselves as NPPD on this board take such a defensive attitude towards the general population that give them an occupational purpose? Why does NPPD act so arrogant and defiant on this board? Why do they always assume your are a "wash woman", a criminal, a lunatic, a malcontent, et al if you post your anonymous opinions or comments, regardless of the content, on a public domain site?

People are watching them......that's why. :shock:

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I don't blame Lilly in the least for being a concerned citizen. I think most of us would be if a child was murdered and dumped in our back yard. Why does NPPD have such a problem with concerned citizens. Why does NPPD have such a problem with citizen discussion of their performance or ability as law enforcement. Why does everyone that represents themselves as NPPD on this board take such a defensive attitude towards the general population that give them an occupational purpose? Why does NPPD act so arrogant and defiant on this board? Why do they always assume your are a "wash woman", a criminal, a lunatic, a malcontent, et al if you post your anonymous opinions or comments, regardless of the content, on a public domain site?

People are watching them......that's why. :shock:


You obviously do not understand the issue at hand here. This has nothing to do with being critical of the NPPD. This has to do with rumors being spread by the public. It is reckless and there is no reason for this. To use the term “wash women" has been a term used to define those that have nothing better to do than start rumors and gossip. The public can watch all day long. The fact is you will find a professional department. Negative comments towards Police are generally posted by those that have grudges or generally have a real dislike for Law Enforcement. You can judge us as the public and that is fine. We will still come to your house and protect you and you will call because you do need us. Then later you can look in the mirror and realized that your opinions and general dislike for the NPPD did not stop you from calling. Remember, if you can post your comments about Officers they will post their comments about you back. If you don't don’t like it too bad. We have to deal with it and so do you. Where is it written that Police Officers are punching bags and have to take everything thrown at them? It is not that way on this forum. You try to defend yourself and we do as well. We are not going to let a few people who keep posting under different title names try and drag the reputation of this agency down. It will not work. Oh yes, thank You for letting everyone know that you are the reason we have an occupational purpose!

I just want to set the record straight mod. I only have been Lilly, except for one response where I forgot to type in my name and it came up as a guest, but I think you can tell it was from me. I tried to find a way to edit my mistake but could not figure out how.

And for the record, I do have an overall high regard for all Law Enforcement. This case was so close to home it has me on edge a little bit. I moved here from Boston a few years ago and was basking in the sheer quietness of North Port. I guess I let my guard down.

Keep up the good work. Hopefully the chief will give the public an update, or not, maybe just something to let us know this case has not yet gone cold. Thank you.

I wonder how many people posting on this thread are REALLY NPPD??? I have a feeling that the things being said here are all from posters from the Herald Tribune message rag. Keep the arguments over there ladies.

I just spent a little time looking at the Herald Tribune site. Do you know that there are over 800 pages and over 12000 posts on the subject of Coral Rose? I'm not going try to catch up on that. But that is a lot of discussion for one little girl. It looks like there must be a lot of people that are concerned, not just those of us who live in her neigborhood.

Lilly, I wouldn't bother checking those out if I were you ... There is some concern for this case on that board, however it's mostly a group of the same people, including the Fullwood family, arguing, accusing, and degrading each other. Every 30th post of so someone says something nice and hopeful about the investigation.

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Keep positive and hope for the best. Know that the NPPD and FDLE are working to solve this case. Also know that every day and night there are dedicated NPPD Officers out there working to keep this City safe. I know because I am one of them and I see dedicated Officers working hard every day. We get some crazy calls here and no one thinks twice about doing their job.

Keep positive and hope for the best. Know that the NPPD and FDLE are working to solve this case. Also know that every day and night there are dedicated NPPD Officers out there working to keep this City safe. I know because I am one of them and I see dedicated Officers working hard every day. We get some crazy calls here and no one thinks twice about doing their job.

Okay...that is all we as a community want to hear. Just something little like that means all the difference.. Now if we can get the word out to the communtiy.

What a waste...
Is that really what you wanted to hear??? You wasted these fine men and womens time to hear them say "Hey, were working on it??" Are you serious! you want to call a press conference for the community just to hear that again???!!! What a waste of taxpayer money.
DUH they are working on it, and duh they do their jobs. Let me guess... you thought they were all eating donuts until someone typed that message on this computer. Wow.. I wish I could type that I had a million dollars and it would JUST BE, and everyone would believe me.
What a sad state this world is in. You are surely a person of faith. Due to the way you typed the word God I can tell that. Why can't people like you have a little faith, instead of needing constant reassurance. Assurances cost a lot and mean nothing unless they are later proved to be true with actions.

Men and Women of NPPD, your doing a fine job, keep it up, and I hope you get some breaks to find this killer, because I know you want to as much as anyone.

Give the lady a break NP... She represents a community of people. Some of us know the silence is having a negative effect on the people. It cannot be helped at this point. It is an active investigation, and if the MOD can contribute one small thing to relax a citizen a little bit, then it is a good thing.

[quote="mod 352 I do agree that a reward should be posted regardless of the family's objections. Don't compare Portugal with North Port Fl, USA, two different worlds. We actually have due process here and it takes alot to make a case stick. The only people living in Lala land are those that make up goofy accusations about the investigation.[/quote]


If you are locked out of the information mill on the case, how can you say the family does not want a reward?????? I personally spoke with Det Carroll of Crimestoppers and the president of the Gold Star Club about a reward. But your chief would not give the ok.

Perhaps North Port is not Portugal, but it certainly acts like Boulder.

I didn't realize that the Chief of Police has to give permission before crimestoppers or victims of a murder can offer a reward....

Can anyone in LE confirm this?

Thank you NPLEO, I appreciate that.

NPCitizen. I am a woman of faith. I spell G-D as my Jewish faith dictates.

I live over in that area...I don't know about anyone else, but I see an police car driving in my neighborhood almost every single day now.

I wouldn't give a nickle to that family. All they are looking for are handouts.

I was hoping to see if someone from NPPD would know the answer about private citizens needing the chief's approval for a reward fund to be started through crime stoppers. If so, what are the guidelines that he uses to decide which case can have have a reward and which case can't.???

But, it all doesn't make sense. Why would a family of a little girl murdered sit on their haunches and not actively get a reward going on their own?

I also want to throw this out there in case coralrosemom comes back on.

What in the world are you doing posting all over the internet? Has anyone in LE heard of such a thing? A suspect in the murder of her daughter posting all over the internet? I never seen such a thing, and wonder if it is even a healthy thing to do, case wise, while still a suspect in an active murder investigation?

Well Lilly, After that I don't think we will be hearing from her anymore. Atleast I would stop posting. But then again, I'm not a suspect so I don't know how she would react.

Actually, someone mention the herald tribune newspaper forums, and I got curious and went and looked. She has been posting on there forever. And so has her mother, sister, brother in law and I think some cousins. Pretty strange phenonemon if you ask me. I wonder what the detectives think about that?

One time Ellen Beth Fullwood posted on the HT forums that the police were only interested in getting pay raises and not investigating the death of her daughter. Something is not right with the woman.

uh duh.....that is the understatement of the year.....her actions speak volumes....the husband/father is far worse than her....and he was the last one to see the child alive....so what does that tell ya???????????????????

Lilli,
Think. If we started a reward fund on our own a few things would happen:
#1 people would say we are trying to steal money.
#2 the administrator of the fund would have no real way of knowing who may have earned the reward.
#3 tips called o the reward fund would have to be then called to NPPD/FDLE

Better to wait for LE's go ahead on that end.

And for everyone's info not being cleared is different than being a suspect. But those few of you who are LEOs already know that.

LEO'S????? can you confirm that statement about not being cleared is not the same as being a suspect? Common sense tells me it is one and the same.

if your not cleared after 8 months, I would have to say you at least went to a person of interest if not a suspect.

Has anyone heard when there is going to be this so called Press conference?//

Tomorrow morning at 1030 AM,

Mrs. Fullwood was given back her kids today. Pray to God above that she will get it right this time. For the sake of her suriving kids. I fear she will not be able to provide a safe and sanitary house for those kids and the suffering will continue.

Why not consider Mrs Fullwood innocent until proved otherwise?

That is the way it is supposed to be!

Why do you people have the need to continually bash her on a public forum?

I think most of you just need to "get a life"!

Very hatefull people!

Anybody reading has to see that....they just have that mob mentality and are gonna follow the worst one!
It is enough to make you sick!

Why in the world would DCF give her children back now??????????? It has been only 4 months since she plead guilty to child neglect. What has changed.. a clean house.? Oh please spare me.

Well, just maybe it was wrong to take them in the first place!

Ever think of that?

NO, everyone was getting line to "cast the first stone"

Sinners one and all!

DCF is just government sponsored child abduction!

All in the name of political correctness.....they get it wrong more often than not!

I know that, but it was not the DCF that took Coralrose and did what they did. They come in after wards. I do see your point though.


DCF is just government sponsored child abduction!

All in the name of political correctness.....they get it wrong more often than not!

Why in the world would DCF give her children back now??????????? It has been only 4 months since she plead guilty to child neglect. What has changed.. a clean house.? Oh please spare me.

I NEVER pled guilty to anything!!!!!!! I consented to a case plan. According to the plan, I get the kids back when I complete certain tasks. I completed those tasks and the judge in his wisdom gave me back my kids. You may see the actual statement that I signed (with people's signatures cut off for safety/privacy at home.comcast.net/~coralrosemom click on case plan paragraph.
Ellen

I see!

It is their responsibility to come in afterward and "see just how much misery they can cause"

How does DCF have that much power? Has anybody tracked down the money in this case yet?




I know that, but it was not the DCF that took Coralrose and did what they did. They come in after wards. I do see your point though.


DCF is just government sponsored child abduction!

All in the name of political correctness.....they get it wrong more often than not!

Ellen wrote:


I NEVER pled guilty to anything!!!!!!! I consented to a case plan. According to the plan, I get the kids back when I complete certain tasks. I completed those tasks and the judge in his wisdom gave me back my kids. You may see the actual statement that I signed (with people's signatures cut off for safety/privacy at home.comcast.net/~coralrosemom click on case plan paragraph.
Ellen

"Case plan"
sounds like ransom for her abducted children to me!

I truley do think it might have been the ****roaches that did this to this family, Just My Opionion!





I see!

It is their responsibility to come in afterward and "see just how much misery they can cause"

No matter how you look at it, you can never justify those living conditons....NEVER!!!!!!!!!

OMG.. they lock the thread on the other board and everyone comes here to argue it out...
MOD you might want to think about shutting down this thread before it turns into what it did elsewhere.

I'm glad the chief gave an update, for what it is worth. Pretty darn disheartening. I hope to G-d that this is not a sign that this case has gone cold.

Before donating to the reward fund, can anyone honestly answer the question as to where funds not given out will end up? Will the Fullwood family have access to the monies collected if this case is solved or NOT solved with the help of the reward fund?

Thank you to anyone who has the facts on the issue.

Rewards that are not collected go into a general fund. This fund is used to give rewards in other cases, however, the reward fund would remain open until the case ended up with an arrest and conviction. The parents have no access to this money at all.

Until I hear from the Chief of Police or someone else in the North Port Police Department that no one in the Fullwood family will ever see a dime of that money, arrest or not, I will not donate a penny to the reward fund.

Until I hear from the Chief of Police or someone else in the North Port Police Department that no one in the Fullwood family will ever see a dime of that money, arrest or not, I will not donate a penny to the reward fund.

Keep your money, you might want to put it toward a fund that help the perverts instead...

Your money is not needed. You are so transparent it is comical. You do not want this pervert off the streets! You are watching the news to see when he goes after his next victim. Maybe you should put an add in the paper and tell him to contact you because you will give your money straight to him and his efforts!

The reward fund is happening with or without you or your money!

Be apart of it or don't! YOUR DECISION!

Okay Diane, keep up your crazy behavior and pretty soon you will have turned the whole population of SW Fla off to helping for this fund. No one wants to give their hard earned money, even if it is a good cause, to something that has the likes of you involved in. Why don't you give Ellen Beth a break and go away?

Okay Diane, keep up your crazy behavior and pretty soon you will have turned the whole population of SW Fla off to helping for this fund. No one wants to give their hard earned money, even if it is a good cause, to something that has the likes of you involved in. Why don't you give Ellen Beth a break and go away?AMEN. She has turned so many people off that I doubt there will be much money donated strickly because of her. Between her and Ellen they have almost turned off anyone that would consider donating.

I agree with that!!! The craziness Diane Morality was speaking on the closed thread, was outrageous. The HT closed it down because of her and few other crazy ones, but she was starting to freak me out. I have already donated to the fund... have been wanting to help in some way, I just hope the others on the HT and other threads will put their money where their mouth is.

Morality aka Diane...I got my IP address back for playing nice nice...Did you???

Morality aka Diane...I got my IP address back for playing nice nice...Did you???

I don't need it, you have your fun. Go play your game without me.

Bu bye!!!

What's wrong get your feelings hurt? :(

What's wrong get your feelings hurt? :(

Give me one good reason why you need me in your game still.

You have plenty of players now, why engage me over and over again?

You have every possible corner of the playing board covered. Go play your game and accept the fact that you have lost this game piece!

If this was a game you would win for making the dumbest move on the board. You truly played a part in making Ellen look as crazy as you are.

Morality aka Diane...I got my IP address back for playing nice nice...Did you???

Snackle, I'm no fan of Morality, but she may yet have the last laugh. Have you noticed that nobody wants to talk to you on the Herald forum? You post and everyone scatters. Everyone is sick of being mind **cked by you and your "manyfaces."

Hey Mod...how about ending this Herald Tribune blog do-over!

Morality aka Diane...I got my IP address back for playing nice nice...Did you???

Snackle, I'm no fan of Morality, but she may yet have the last laugh. Have you noticed that nobody wants to talk to you on the Herald forum? You post and everyone scatters. Everyone is sick of being mind **cked by you and your "manyfaces."

Who said I am snackle?

Hey Mod...how about ending this Herald Tribune blog do-over!



Must agree also....this is a waste of cyber space....

If you go back and check the dates on Snackles posts you will see that she was never banned. manyfaces must be Lori.

How many requst will it take to get this removed Mod? Come on!

I am neither Snackle aka Athehelm...Lori aka lkl... I only came here to post a comment to Diane aka Morality. HT won't let her post, I do believe the reward fund is in jeopardy if Ellen continues to associate with this crazy person. Thats all.

I met both Snackle and Atthehelm they are two different people.

Whatever Snackle

PLEASE SOMEONE STOP THE MADNESS OF THESE THREE YEAR OLDS :evil:

I have no desire to ruin this thread... I came here to post regarding the reward fund to make my opinion known. I do post on other threads on the HT, I am in fear that i can no longer make my opionions clear there. I hope you all understand that I cannot support Some that do not have credibility.. I needed to day that.

I have no desire to ruin this thread... I came here to post regarding the reward fund to make my opinion known. I do post on other threads on the HT, I am in fear that i can no longer make my opionions clear there. I hope you all understand that I cannot support Some that do not have credibility.. I needed to day that.

Does any one know what the amount of the reward fund is yet? I have not been able to get my share in yet because the last time I checked the payment method was check only and print the form out... I do not have a printer and have not used checks in years.

Do you know when or if Crimestoppers and NPPD is going to take care of that? I heard on WINK NEWS that the mother has a reward fund site up now but I did not get the site address. Do you have that Addy? I am wondering if she has a better payment method up.

I will need to be make more than a one time payment as that is the way my money comes in and will need a convenient method of payment.

Thanks in advance.

Genteel aka manyfaces

[quote="manyfaces"]I have no desire to ruin this thread... I came here to post regarding the reward fund to make my opinion known.

BUT.... This is a law enforcement site. Not a specific case site. Nor is anyone in law enforcement interested in your opinion. I do understand that you want a place to communicate, however I assure you, THIS IS NOT IT!!!! MOD..... PLEASE END THIS!!!!!

No one cares about the reward fund. No one cares about the Fullwoods. If you want to contrubute that is your choice. Ellen has disappeared online. Either Dales lawyer or DCF has told her to start paying attention to the kids and to stop showing how mentally ill she really is online. Now go away financial and manyfaces. This is a LEO board. If you got banned over on HT then maybe you shouldn't be online at all. Take a hint.

Oh my. I haven't been in here for a bit, and kind of shocked. I went to see the what was done on the herald trib site, and the mother is there right now bashing someone who gave money to a reward fund. What is wrong with that woman? LEO's .... have you looked into her real good? Something is just not right with her.

sounds like she is trying to make herself look insane in case she gets pinned with this.

I agree with the posts that Ellen is crazy. I read on the HT and she is not the only crazy one on there. That whole thread was and is out of control. I don't blame people who started posting with other names. They obviously realized that thread on HT was a joke anyway. In regards to a reward, I would give but I too want to be assured no family member will EVER get their hands on any monies donated.

I read the link on the HT forum regarding www.pervertedjustice.com (http://www.pervertedjustice.com).
http://forums.heraldtribune.com/eve/for ... 7051059136 (http://forums.heraldtribune.com/eve/forums/a/tpc/f/4161001365/m/7051059136)

Does the leo commend this type of behavior? Do you feel they interfere with your job, cause more trouble for you, or do they help you?

Apparently the idea was to pose as underage children online to catch child perverts online.

After reading quite a few articles, it looks as if it has been taken too far. That they are using their resources to attack individual people that have nothing to do with child porn and so on.

Also, after reading a few of the forums it is apparent that people from perverted justice are posting and trolling under many id\\\\\\\'s?

I did read about the www.coralrosereward.com (http://www.coralrosereward.com) site, that the owner Anne Short,/aka Snackle owns was going to publicly bash posters on the forum with personal things they found upon doing research on them. Also, this Ann Short/Snackle says they can hack into the forums, get peoples IP\\\\\\\'s and gather information on them. Is this true? Is this allowed by law?

One more, a posted named ohPLEASE started this forum http://forums.heraldtribune.com/eve/for ... 06136/p/19 (http://forums.heraldtribune.com/eve/forums/a/tpc/f/4161001365/m/3211006136/p/19)
They said they had information regarding the coralrosereward site and they sent it to a man named bob who was going to publicly disgrace many people. Which I believe the ohPLEASE person, again has something to do with perverted justice.

A poster snanatx10 confirmed they(perverted justice) are posting, she claims two of them have e-mailed her.

As to officers doing their job in a murder investigation, does this type of behavior make your job harder, or does it help your investigation?

After reading everything, I was just curious as to how the NPPD feels about the vigilante group perverted justice and all it\\\\\\\'s members.

How does the NPPD feel about the reward site for a six year old child that was murdered?

This Ann Short/snackle/bob/aka\\\\\\\'s believe that people should not donate?

Is this a waste of our money to donate, or do you feel it really could bring the killer out?

Thank you, for your time.

I also wanted to say thank you to NPPD for all your hard work and time you put into our community to help make it a better and safe place to live.

Morality aka Diane...I got my IP address back for playing nice nice...Did you???

Snackle, I'm no fan of Morality, but she may yet have the last laugh. Have you noticed that nobody wants to talk to you on the Herald forum? You post and everyone scatters. Everyone is sick of being mind **cked by you and your "manyfaces."

Boy did I call that right. You got yourself slammed more times than once and nobody will play with you and your many faces now! Ha, ha!

Get yourself a new hobby and leave the HT alone! You are just too transparent since she outed you and all of your bull crap! :lol:

:arrow: This a-way to the nearest exit... :arrow: :arrow: :arrow: :arrow: :arrow: :arrow: :arrow: :arrow: :arrow: :arrow: :arrow: :arrow: :arrow:

Morality aka Diane...I got my IP address back for playing nice nice...Did you???

Snackle, I'm no fan of Morality, but she may yet have the last laugh. Have you noticed that nobody wants to talk to you on the Herald forum? You post and everyone scatters. Everyone is sick of being mind **cked by you and your "manyfaces."

Boy did I call that right. You got yourself slammed more times than once and nobody will play with you and your many faces now! Ha, ha!

Get yourself a new hobby and leave the HT alone! You are just too transparent since she outed you and all of your bull crap! :lol:

:arrow: This a-way to the nearest exit... :arrow: :arrow: :arrow: :arrow: :arrow: :arrow: :arrow: :arrow: :arrow: :arrow: :arrow: :arrow: :arrow:

You better take another look at the CoralRose thread, she offered to point her site to somethi they want it to and shes getin back in the mix.Do thay realy trust her now??????? Wow. She has them going again.???

I wouldn't say that. She had a one sentence exchange with DODO and that is it. No one jumped in and said anything or responded. The only real thing happening when it comes to any of the CR sites, is the family bumping it up. It is almost sad how DODO comes on, seeming a bit on the desparate side, wanting everyone to keep the talk going.

From the looks of it no one is much interested anymore. I guess she can thank her crazy as a loon daughter for that. Between her and her nutty friend she chased away everyone that cared enough to dedicate so much time and emotion. What a terrible shame.

If you or any of the others really cared, you would be donating in order to flush these people out. What does it matter how crazy, loony or nutty any one else is?

The Crazy, Loony, Nutty people you want to be discussing and concerned about is the ones that killed her, no one else. No one else matters at all!

The family are probably so discouraged that the community is not doing any real hands on efforts to help. The gossip on a forum is not really doing a bit of good at all is it?

Have you considered a fund raising effort to get more money into the reward fund yet? That would be hands on help. Forget the gossip, raise some real awareness and interest in the money amount of the reward fund. The bigger the better.

If you or any of the others really cared, you would be donating in order to flush these people out. What does it matter how crazy, loony or nutty any one else is?

The Crazy, Loony, Nutty people you want to be discussing and concerned about is the ones that killed her, no one else. No one else matters at all!

The family are probably so discouraged that the community is not doing any real hands on efforts to help. The gossip on a forum is not really doing a bit of good at all is it?

Have you considered a fund raising effort to get more money into the reward fund yet? That would be hands on help. Forget the gossip, raise some real awareness and interest in the money amount of the reward fund. The bigger the better. Why should we the community be responsible for raising awareness of this? Where is the family? Why aren't they out there? Sorry, but there are better causes out there that would be more fruitful without the baggage that this family brings to the table. Even their temple is not holding fund raisers. That should tell you something. That family is bad news all around and Coralrose is probably in a better place than she was when alive.

That was a little harsh, I don't wish a dead child on anyone. But everything else I agree with you. What are the family doing? NADA/Zip/Nothing. And you are right, if their own temple is not doing anything, and they know the family better than all the strangers that seem to care about Coral Rose, then why should the public? The saddest thing about it is that the family just doesn't have a clue as to how their scumbag in the gutter lifestyle hurts them. They think they are normal. They have an excuse for everything. I won't donate a dollar. Sorry. Not until the family is off the suspect list. And if I see Doreen come on and say one more time how the 4 year old is still a suspect, I just may scream. Like that has anything to do with the fact that her slob of a neglectful daughter is still a suspect. I checked the HT last night, no one is talking anymore, no posts at all since 5 days ago. Good bye Coral Rose, your mom has alienated the public, and no one will be left to keep your name alive.

Well said Pink and TellingItlikeItis. They just don't have a clue what trash they really are and why no one wants to help.

Maybe they keep quiet because you and others would accuse them of trying to profit by what has happened? Maybe what has been written in the news is not exactly the truth? Maybe the Temple does much for them, but does so quietly the way charity should be done? Better to change names one hundred times and talk to yourself. You can't be totally crazy, at least you agree with yourself.

Thank you for answering about our temple. no one knows how much support they have given our family, I only wish that if anyone else's family finds themselves in the same situation their church or temple will provide the same. We ae blessed to be members of Temple Beh El of FT. Myers

Wow.... this case really has died huh? NO one is talking about it anywhere anymore. So, think we can officially call this a cold case?

How long until this case is put on the playing cards inmates will use in the county jail?????