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04-25-2007, 01:22 AM
Why isn't there an official message board for members? It could be securely managed with username/passwords given to members only and provide immediate benefit in communication. This seems like a no-brainer for such a large union spread all over the county.

As of now it looks like approximately $20.00 bucks has been spent in web development. This website (http://www.bcpba.homestead.com/) is just plain embarrassing.

04-27-2007, 01:51 AM
This would be a place for the discussion of union/agency issues between named members (anonymous posting disabled for obvious reasons - leave anonymous rhetoric to places like this).

Gauging opinions would be a few clicks away with non-official polls and a centralized communication method. What better way to discuss agency wide topics between, for example District 10 & District 8 members?

As of now we have every-now-and-then meetings that a relatively few attend.

Our union is only as strong as its members.

06-16-2007, 08:16 PM
Why isn't there an official message board for members? It could be securely managed with username/passwords given to members only and provide immediate benefit in communication. This seems like a no-brainer for such a large union spread all over the county.

As of now it looks like approximately $20.00 bucks has been spent in web development. This website (http://www.bcpba.homestead.com/) is just plain embarrassing.

It is the Broward PBA, that's why. Members are not important, unless you work for Hollywood.

06-16-2007, 10:24 PM
Why be concerned about a PBA message board? In just a few months, the PBA will not even be the union of choice at the sheriffs office. Once they fall there, it will be a domino effect. If all you want is a 3% raise then vote to keep them in. Just ask yourself this, what has the PBA done in the last 14 years? Can you name any accomplishments that the Broward PBA has?

06-16-2007, 11:07 PM
Yes, this will happen when only 7 people showed up for the IUPA meeting. Instead of trying to divide, lets get together and become a tight group with common goals. Unseating the PBA is not the answer, getting involved is the only answer.

06-17-2007, 12:25 AM
Ok, say I do get involved and become a rep in the district. I do good and become a board member. As a board member, I still do not agree how things are done and I hear a lot of my fellow union members complain that they would like to see a new president and vice president etc... Can you tell me how I would be able to change anything when the president thinks his position is equal to a supreme court justice and he has a lifetime appointment? If you were me in this position, how would you make the changes?

06-17-2007, 12:30 AM
On another note, my guess why only seven people showed up was the out of fear and retaliation from the PBA. Why else would Pat Hanrahan and Debbie Reggio be sitting in the corner of the parking lot all blacked out. Later, Pat and Debbie were seen driving up and down the aisles looking at all car numbers and tags. Could you explain why the PBA would want their Vice President to spend PBA time in a car writing down BSO tag numbers? If you don't believe this happened then call Pat himself. He got so scared when he was confronted that the only excuse he could think of before leaving was that he had to pull over and give someone directions.

06-17-2007, 12:36 AM
Yes, this will happen when only 7 people showed up for the IUPA meeting. Instead of trying to divide, lets get together and become a tight group with common goals. Unseating the PBA is not the answer, getting involved is the only answer.

I do not agree, if something is broken, it needs to be fixed. If something can not be fixed so it will ever work properly, you need to get a new one. From what I hear, IUPA has enough votes already to get an election. (hope it's true) If it is true, that means at least 150 deputies a month signed cards since the first letter came out. That sounds like a lot of people are unhappy to get that many in such a short time. I for one never even heard a rumor about a new union until I got the first letter. Blinsided and successful against the PBA. If they can muster that support this quick against a sitting union, it sounds like the PBA has a lot to worry about.

06-17-2007, 07:46 PM
I haven't checked this board in awhile and I come back to find my thread totally jacked.

Whatever our union we can benefit from a central communication area. Is there any interest out there or am I just spinning my wheels?

06-24-2007, 11:54 PM
I haven't checked this board in awhile and I come back to find my thread totally jacked.

Whatever our union we can benefit from a central communication area. Is there any interest out there or am I just spinning my wheels?

There is no point, the PBA would not read it to help us. They would read it to say ok that is what we will not give them.

06-25-2007, 02:00 AM
There is no point, the PBA would not read it to help us. They would read it to say ok that is what we will not give them.

Right now our mass communication tool is MDC messenger and a lot of people don't even have access to it.

I don't think it would be the answer to all of our problems but it could certainly help make us more organized.

Call it the BrowardSO message board or whatever. Registration could be handled by word of mouth and email. Name and CCN gets you a username and password.

07-03-2007, 02:11 AM
I think this idea was alittle to late. I think Mr Brickman and family are dug into the Broward Sheriff's Office, and the PBA like Texas ticks. No more like a leech. I think the answer is another Union. But I would like Brickman and family removed. Wow providing intel of people and car numbers who attended the meeting how sneaky. And who in the Broward Sheriff's Office is getting a kick back from the PBA, this is the exact reason the Federal Government should intervene and review their financial records. Fourteen years, thats to long to be earning money through others labor. If the PBA stays as the official representative, we need to mandate a limitation on the term in office I say contract length or three years is a sufficient term. What do you say the hard working member?

07-03-2007, 02:03 PM
I was there when the FOP thought they could not be removed; In came the PBA.

PBA can be removed also but the answer certainly isn't the IUPA.
This isn't to slight our fellow deputies who serve as PBA Rep's, but if all you hear are complaints something's not working. Don't you have a responsibility to be accountable?
We all know the problems with running a Union and trying to please everyone is the surest road to failure. However, The members don't feel their needs are being met. You would think if the PBA truly had the BSO Deputies' concerns at heart, they would publicly be working towards meeting those goals.

Final Thought: PBA, You need to find a better way.

07-12-2007, 09:46 PM
No Executive Board Member of the PBA has a "lifetime" appointment. If you all did your homework instead of complaining all the time, you would know that. That honor belongs to Bobby Bowden. You people, and we all know who you are, need to either step up to the plate and create the change you want or just plug your pie hole.

07-12-2007, 10:22 PM
Hey Lance, nice job sending in those duplicate cards for your "new" union. I guess the PBA isn't the only one that's corrupt.

07-12-2007, 10:23 PM
Hey Lance, nice job sending in those duplicate cards for your "new" union. I guess the PBA isn't the only one that's corrupt.

07-12-2007, 10:45 PM
I was hired when Deputies had no rights, job protection, overtime, got $5 of duty witness fee for court and could be fired without cause. Now you have the PBA who is not in bed with the Sheriff but has a good relationship with the agency which is easier to negotiate. Some of you think we need a radical PBA like Fort Lauderdale Police FOP is, well they do not want to be that way. They have to be, because the City of Fort Laud has historically always tried to bone the cops and they have an adversarial relationship.

Now you have a good salary, overtime at 1 1/2, great family health insurance with affordable premiums, prescription plans, paid college tuition, dental, vision, take home car with unlimited fuel, job protection, Police Off Bill of Rights, solid pension plan with several options that you do not have to contribute to, deferred comp, DROP and much more.

If you think it is so bad here look around to other depts in the country who pay 14% of their salary into pensions, pay huge money for health plans, etc. Check out Corporate America, how would you like to be a Delta pilot and have them take away your pension after 25 years, backed up by a court. Or corporations cancelling pension plans, and telling employees to get their own health plans. The grass is always greener on the other side until you get there. I have been here 33 years and have seen many quit leave the state, go to other agencies only to return to BSO with their tail betweeen their legs begging for their job back.

The PBA and BSO is not perfect but we have darn good benefits as I outlined. And IUPA? Please they do not even have a track record and they listed that the PBA asked the Sheriff for a fair and equitable pay increase as if they were leaving it up to Jenne. NOT true. I was a negotiator and you always start that way, and let the Sheriff make the first pay offer, so you can go up from there. If you make the first pay increase offer maybe the Sheriff was going to go higher but now only has to agree to your first low bid! IUPA knows this and is only blowing smoke at you. And if they don't know that then who the heck wants them representing us, not me.

I am not a company man, I have had a reputation for years as being out spoken to Supervision and Administration. But I know we do not have it that bad and it could be worse. Ask yourself this. Unless you have a specialty education or talent, what would you being doing if BSO did not hire you. Driving a Bulldozer or managing a Wendy's? And if you do have a specialty education or talent and could do better why are you still here? I know some of you will write back and ubdoubtedly slam me for this as if I am an idiot. But as I stated on other comments I have made, at least I have the nerve to sign my name. How about you?

Gary ****inson, An Old Deputy

07-13-2007, 02:03 AM
Ok Gary, maybe you would have a different opinion if you were back on the road and not at the airport with a restriction of how many hours of O.T a week? If I were making 6 figures a year I would support the PBA too. And don't try and say I can come to the airport too because your Sgt's play the favorite game!!!! Enjoy your fat pension not because you earned it but you hapened to be at the right district at the rigth time.

07-13-2007, 02:11 AM
I'm not looking around the country, I'm looking around the county. I'm sick of people comparing our career to others. I don't care what Delta pays, Motorolla pays, or what Mcdonalds pays. They are different and they have their own pay scales. Just pay us what is fair for being a LEO in Broward County. I love my job, but that doesnt mean I do it for free because not everyone is qualified nor capable to do it.

07-13-2007, 11:49 AM
Ok Gary, maybe you would have a different opinion if you were back on the road and not at the airport with a restriction of how many hours of O.T a week? If I were making 6 figures a year I would support the PBA too. And don't try and say I can come to the airport too because your Sgt's play the favorite game!!!! Enjoy your fat pension not because you earned it but you hapened to be at the right district at the rigth time.

Dear Guest, Most Districts are doing mandatory overtime that you can earn. However, a lot a deputies prefer to work the airport due to the fact that the airport deputies, including ****inson, handle any and all reports and calls for service. They also stand outside in the elements 24/7 and do traffic control for thousands of travelers. It's definitely not for everyone.
If you would care to assist the District, Sgt. Wurms posts open TSA details every week on the MDT. Please feel free to contact him or myself and we will be happy to sign you up for TSA details. (954) 359-1244

07-13-2007, 01:23 PM
Gary, maybe you would have a different opinion if you were back on the road and not at the airport with a restriction of how many hours of O.T a week? If I were making 6 figures a year I would support the PBA too. And don't try and say I can come to the airport too because your Sgt's play the favorite game!!!! Enjoy your fat pension not because you earned it but you hapened to be at the right district at the rigth time.[/quote]

airport deputies, including ****inson, handle any and all reports and calls for service. They also stand outside in the elements 24/7 and do traffic control for thousands of travelers.


****inson stand on the curb and direct traffic?

****inson step up and handle paper?

What airport do you work at?

The village is calling....there missing their idiot!

Get in touch Sgt. Moron!

07-13-2007, 02:12 PM
Morell, that was an idiotic response. There are no other Districts where the top deputies are making $170,000. Granted that is a great benefit for working at the airport but don't try and convince everyone that mandatory overtime in other districts even remotely compare to what is going on in the airport. You are fortunate to have it available but give us a break about the elements. It must be real tough making overtime by sitting next to an elevator.

07-13-2007, 11:28 PM
Dear Guest, Most Districts are doing mandatory overtime that you can earn. However, a lot a deputies prefer to work the airport due to the fact that the airport deputies, including ****inson, handle any and all reports and calls for service. They also stand outside in the elements 24/7 and do traffic control for thousands of travelers. It's definitely not for everyone.If you would care to assist the District, Sgt. Wurms posts open TSA details every week on the MDT. Please feel free to contact him or myself and we will be happy to sign you up for TSA details. (954) 359-1244

I hear things have gotten so rough at the airport that many deputies are looking to swap out for Pompano Area 2 Charlie shift.

Sergeant Morell you're one funny guy. Whew!

07-14-2007, 12:41 AM
Ok Gary, maybe you would have a different opinion if you were back on the road and not at the airport with a restriction of how many hours of O.T a week? If I were making 6 figures a year I would support the PBA too. And don't try and say I can come to the airport too because your Sgt's play the favorite game!!!! Enjoy your fat pension not because you earned it but you hapened to be at the right district at the rigth time.

Dear Guest, Most Districts are doing mandatory overtime that you can earn. However, a lot a deputies prefer to work the airport due to the fact that the airport deputies, including ****inson, handle any and all reports and calls for service. They also stand outside in the elements 24/7 and do traffic control for thousands of travelers. It's definitely not for everyone.
If you would care to assist the District, Sgt. Wurms posts open TSA details every week on the MDT. Please feel free to contact him or myself and we will be happy to sign you up for TSA details. (954) 359-1244

You didn't really post this, did you?

07-14-2007, 03:07 AM
Most districts having mandatory Overtime? What agency do you work for. My District blew out its overtime Budget back in February. Then they spent a month begging people to work for Comp time. Now they just dont put deputies on the road. No Overtime available! Its becoming a safety issue. If they cut our budget or positions anymore my District will end up being a detail.

07-14-2007, 11:58 PM
Nice job Sgt. Murell. That's exactly what Sgt. Worms does, offers the details, at the detail rate. Because they can't get anyone to work them. Everyone on the "inside" already has the OT wrapped up. WOrms won't assign OT spots to anyone outside the aorport, unless the "voluunter" to take a detail first. Personally, I don't have 16 hours a week in my schedule. I can't do an 8 hrs detail, just to get the 8 hrs OT. I also am not about get paid the detail rate, while I stand next to some airport guy making $58.00+ dollars an hour. The OT and details should all be posted.

And don't even suggest letting the totally corrupted detail office handle the assignments.

07-15-2007, 02:46 AM
Nice job Sgt. Murell. That's exactly what Sgt. Worms does, offers the details, at the detail rate. Because they can't get anyone to work them. Everyone on the "inside" already has the OT wrapped up. WOrms won't assign OT spots to anyone outside the aorport, unless the "voluunter" to take a detail first. Personally, I don't have 16 hours a week in my schedule. I can't do an 8 hrs detail, just to get the 8 hrs OT. I also am not about get paid the detail rate, while I stand next to some airport guy making $58.00+ dollars an hour. The OT and details should all be posted.

And don't even suggest letting the totally corrupted detail office handle the assignments.

And if they followed the contract it says that O.T will be distributed fairly !!!! And why does the Sheriffs office collect gov't money for O.T and pay out details? The Gov't does not contract out details with the Sheriffs office.

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08-24-2019, 05:29 AM
Yes, this will happen when only 7 people showed up for the IUPA meeting. Instead of trying to divide, lets get together and become a tight group with common goals. Unseating the PBA is not the answer, getting involved is the only answer.

Look the answer is keeping our benefits and making more money. Why do we meaning members always suffer. We pay we should receive no matter what. Kicking back will only loose members. We been best up by abuse of funds enough. Get with the program unions get with the program. Were tired of all the dsm excuses. Dsm we should not have to say this.

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08-24-2019, 05:55 AM
Look the answer is keeping our benefits and making more money. Why do we meaning members always suffer. We pay we should receive no matter what. Kicking back will only loose members. We been best up by abuse of funds enough. Get with the program unions get with the program. Were tired of all the dsm excuses. Dsm we should not have to say this.

Get thee some education bro. Took me twice as long trying to decipher your post than it should've.

Unregistered
09-01-2019, 09:45 AM
I hear things have gotten so rough at the airport that many deputies are looking to swap out for Pompano Area 2 Charlie shift.

Sergeant Morell you're one funny guy. Whew!
Just put in for a transfer to pompano. Tired of doing all the work while everyone’s not. I might as well get out before there’s more issues. What a mess this place has become too. I should have never left my old department.